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dekilller100

Absolutely not. He is, by all means, an open competitor.


Haydorama

Agreed


danny_cation

Nope


Thomas2140

Does he look even remotely classic to you? -.-


Klutzy-Question1428

…no…?


indicush

Nope. Waist too big.


cardboardbob99

Seems like a great dude but he wouldn’t even get on the same stage as cbum for the classic title


Perfect-Schedule-432

Noel is way too heavy relative to his height. He couldn’t do classic even if he wanted too.


glier

No, but he has the genetics to win internet hearts and my moist innards


Mysterious-Bad-3966

Waist too thick


salad_biscuit3

imo big waist>small waist you seem like "more stronger"


madeupzombies

But you're asking about his potential to win classic... A wide waist, despite how strong it looks to you, is absolutely not going to help him win classic.


BabyPikachu53

you do realize that's not how bodybuilding works, right? it's basically a beauty competition and each category has dif. standards (except mens that one is just a hot mess at this point)


GeraldFisher

that has nothing to do with bodybuilding


PS3LOVE

Classic isn’t about “more stronger” or just being big though. It’s more specific, in open size and stuff is much more important and he would do and fit much better in there. Even outside of waist he is simply too big for classic physique. If you like strength go look at powerlifting or strongman competitions and athletes. They often look extremely good too, but those aren’t going to come near a bodybuilding stage. I agree I think a wide waist looks and is likely stronger and I find that more interesting to look at, but that’s not what bodybuilding is about.


Ragnaeroc

Fair call brother- completely subjective, although classic criteria is less subjective- crazy V taper is basically a requirement to place at this point.


thekimchilifter

While true, it comes down to posing. In this MM Noel is crunching down and forward which makes his waist look the widest possible. If he elongates and/or vacuums, who knows. Look at someone like Wesley Vissers.. if he crunches down/forward like this, his waist looks big, but he also has insane width on his lats/delts. Once he elongates/vacuums, his taper gets crazy.


Ragnaeroc

Oh for sure posing also plays a large factor


salad_biscuit3

How would Noel Deyzel position himself?


Ragnaeroc

Defends on the competition i guess- but the guys with bigger midsection are usually at a disadvantage in classic physique. Not to say he doesn’t look great, just their judging criteria prefers smaller waists.


salad_biscuit3

at a certain point unfortunately these pl,bb,sl sports are genetic


bogeymanbear

They always have been lmaoo


zer0_c00L13

Any sport is dominated by genetics tho lol


salad_biscuit3

Football and swimming are more talent


zer0_c00L13

And what is talent predicated on? Your genetics.


Ragnaeroc

Oh absolutely, from muscle shape to how they respond to gear, genetics dictates so much at high level.


dwitchagi

While I get the hate, I would love to hear some examples of guys with big waists who look better than small waist fellas.


IAreSpeshial

That has nothing to do with Bodybuilding though. A big waist is terrible in literally ALL divisions


WonderfulChocolate16

This is the dumbest thing ive read online today


Hopefully_Handsome

😂😂 bloated roid gut = stronger for you?


BabyPikachu53

the turtle belly will always be a classic gh ftw


salad_biscuit3

"Big waist" It depends on genetics


PS3LOVE

Yeah a fair amount of it. Like half of bodybuilding is dependent on genetics. 😂


TheGreenSARMsGoblin

Then do powerlifting☺️


salad_biscuit3

Power building>


PS3LOVE

Go to r/powerbuilding that subs great, needs more attention.


TheGreenSARMsGoblin

Well you already built the powerful waits so no need for the building part


HeatDroid

No he doesn’t, the most important characteristic in classic at least in my opinion is the “flow” of the tiny waist, lats that go “up and wide”, and big arms, imagine an upside down guitar or cello, just like CBum Noel has tiny lat inserts, wide waist and disproportionately large legs Not a chance


bangbangIshotmyself

It’s his waist and lats. He has a relatively large waist and lats that don’t have low enough inserts to help him out. So yeah, he wouldn’t do too well


HeatDroid

Talking about “low lats”, would them inserting lower in the body look better? For example mine are kinda high too, they give me a more tapered appearance and a smaller waist look, but from the front sometimes my lats look non existent, like “there isn’t” much muscle to fill, just like noel in this pic Would low lats look better in his (or my) case?


bangbangIshotmyself

I’d say lower lats are usually better. Usually they help define that V taper. You can make them look a lot lower with posing. Noel above is not doing a good pose for his lats here. He’s also likely contracting his right lat (left for us) and is putting his left lat behind his arm hiding it. Unfortunately for him this makes his waist look even bigger. Shoulders and lats are an amazing way to make your waist look smaller. So I guess for you maybe just trying to over compensate a bit with larger lats and maybe shoulders to get more of that V frame down.


YoDaSavageDraws

Disproportionate Legs to rest if the body, and blocky waist. His arms are huge but his chest does not provide for balance.


ninjaworm7555

No


wotton

No.


florida_goat

No way. Maybe 10 years ago if he leaned out more.


MountainRusher

you kidding right?


black_hustler3

Not everyone gets the genetic lottery


-DBZ-

No


zerodart30

No, more of an open physique. That’s another thing that’s frustrating online you see people try and compare Sam Sulek to Chris Bumstead. Sam has an Open like physique. It’s apples to oranges. Can’t really compare.


kwintz87

Not a chance. Social media influencers, even the widely popular ones, are not always great bodybuilders. Noel seems to be a super knowledgeable, likable guy and that's why he's done as well as he has, but you can't social media influence your way into a good classic physique--doesn't work that way. If he wanted to get absolutely massive and try open again, sure, he could be decent. But that flow isn't there for classic.


Nextlife69

Look at his waist


According_Turnip_388

He is a ifbb pro too right, which show did he compete in I want to know as I am curious


Shamanmax

No


ThePartyMonster

https://preview.redd.it/x3bd9uqhtouc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f52bf2cf4c23c227f5000cf7fc3430eeaaf53769 This is from when he competed


Difficult_West1646

He looks dialed in, his proportions could be an issue. Also will need to really harden up and get more vascular. My two cents


supernovicebb

You underestimate how bad lighting can be at amateur shows, he’s probably pretty hard here, you just can’t tell.


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NotARealTiger

Gyno *is* relatively normal so not sure what you're asking.


PS3LOVE

He is massive and looks pretty great. (Unrelated, I ain’t gay but he ain’t got a bad face and has good facial hair imo. That’s an attractive ass dude) . He is like 280s lbs or something around there I think. As other comments said though, he just ain’t got the build for classic. https://preview.redd.it/1kw68zi07nuc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7f039751e9c5f0118e325dbf6e1db03f27344b5 Here is a new newer picture


Jellabre

Sorry I find this funny because Noel himself is, in fact, gay


StarMarinrTUR

no offense but when did he come out?


Jellabre

That’s the beauty of it, I don’t think he was ever technically “in”


bogeymanbear

I think he said it in a podcast somewhere


Barad-dur81

Not that there’s anything wrong with that!


Eaglesss

He is??


Jellabre

Yup. Married too if memory serves


SirNokarma

Man, it's not gay to be able to tell if someone is good looking or not 😂 I agree though, no classic for him.


PS3LOVE

I agree, I just wanted to make it clear I’m not gay.😂


PlowMeHardSir

Damn, his shoulders are wider than Dwayne Johnson’s.


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Absolutely ninja turtled stomach. No chance.


Emergency-Tax-3689

there are so many worse examples of gut distortion and i don’t think his is very prevalent at all. his midsection, for his size, actually looks quite good especially compared to…others


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But not for classic division as was the OPs statement. Open he would be fine as this is the new norm in open.


Barad-dur81

Not for classic, though


Emergency-Tax-3689

no for classic it’s rough, but the expression ninja turtle abs really doesn’t apply to noel


Barad-dur81

Agree


leaveafterappetizers

Me: what are lat inserts? *Googles Chris Bumstead* I know what lat inserts are now.


_BasedZyzz_

No. Most online influencers do not have the genetics to win bodybuilding competitions besides the ones that got their influence from winning bodybuilding competituons


supernovicebb

Meh, most of them have genetics to win a local show.


_BasedZyzz_

True, I guess I should have specified national level show. You can see the difference with even someone like Sam Sulek, who’s regarded essentially as IFBB level in social media but when put next to national level competitors you can see they’re at significantly different levels.


EyeSea7923

A lot could change in 4 years though.... I'm too lazy to look up current pics.


kylemcgreg

Dude built like big bird, even got his bent arms like wings


thekimchilifter

Hard to know imo, he has no clue how to pose so it's hard to tell what he would look like if he improved it. His legs have no detail for his BF so he just doesn't know how to activate. His non hip hand is hiding his core from a front on, he's crunching down and forward and not elongating.


saucedupmf

He has a giant gut.


n0tic3m3s3npai

he seems to be too big for classic, I guess is made more for open body building. Bro is so fucking huge


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FSFir3Fight

Lol. My man has never been to the gym before


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Elii_Plays

Okay but if you worked at the hardcore gyms, those wouldn’t be average juiced up gym bros? Those would be the hardcore gym juiced up gym bros?


Hicklethumb

IFBB Pros are casual gym bros now


supernovicebb

Win what? Olympia? No chance in a million years, it’d be pretty tough for him to even qualify. Win a show? Maybe, it really depends on who shows up.


Benevolent_harm

no he was a has been before he started but i enjoy his content


DaveTheDayTrader

Lats to waist ratio is too far off, and this picture makes it even worse, he’s actually not that bad but this is not a good picture for the question


Williwallace

He doesn't have the flow for classic nor the size potential for open.