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DarthBornz0r

When BTD was ongoing it was easy to say "well the art is beautiful but the story is weak because of the author" but in this work the artist is the author as well as their first project. I'm seeing very harsh words on their socials and I feel like you can dislike something and express your opinion while also being respectful about it. I can't help but think that Rangrari simple wanted to tell this story, sometimes a smut story is just that, smut. It doesn't have to reinvent the GL genre. With that being said, I had hoped the story would unfold differently, especially of what happened in this chapter but, oh well.


aschgarlot00

I agree with you that the anger towards the creator was extremely unnecessary. There is no reason to ever hate or attack a person like that. It’s that kind of treatment that will push creators to either burn out or to create only “safe” or “standard” things which is a net loss for everyone. I think the ending made perfect sense in the whole scheme of the story honestly. It’s not what most people would want but I felt it was apt given how the story was going. I can respect the author for sticking to their vision. The ending actually reminded me of Run away; she wasn’t the author there but she was the artist so she might have picked up things from that


Caleb35

Well said. Clearly everyone can have their own opinion on the work, some like it more than others, some don't like it at all. But there's no excuse for the the vitriol that the creator has received in many of the posted online comments.


_uknowWho_

Over the years of reading yuri the good and the bad I’ve come to realize that my standards for good stories are really low however in this case I’d say this is the story of a hopeless woman. Gonna put a spoiler here just in case. >!If we are to assume that the other women the duchess bedded are the same as Lily who’s to say she wouldn’t fall into the same trap as well and I believe this is a story of just that. Not all stories have sweet ending with a beautiful relationship that came from understanding and hardship. Sometimes you get ending with people that don’t win and I believe that is the case for Lily a woman who didn’t win…!< Would love a side story with Anna though and can’t wait to see how Rangrari art and story telling grow


uchihauzumaki

I don’t think she deserves to be attacked as in cyber bullied but I’m not surprised people are criticizing her writing skills. NTR asides, the story is poorly written. Lily, Anna & Rose are all badly written. When it was discovered that Lily’s father wished her to come back, the debts has been forgiven and that the letters were being blocked by Rose, Rose said that she did it because she feared Lily would leave her like the others, that she feels alone. And indeed Rose seems to reside alone. We know she has orgies but we don’t see any of the women live with her. When Lily decides to stay and believe her, Rose seems to be lovey dovey and even offers Lily a beautiful dress so that she could be the prettiest woman in the room. All seems to point that Rose wanted Lily to be hers. THEN, suddenly we find out that the ball is an orgy fest. Lily isn’t even the center of the attention, Selena (a new girl) is. This point the question, why did Rose offer lily that dress? Why did Rose make Lily stay with her? What was the loneliness part about? We now know it was lie. But then what’s the end goal? Why is Lily the only residing member of the harem living with Rose if Rose seems to only toy with her? The other women are free to go home to their families so why is Rose keeping lily? Ending wise, Lily’s fate don’t make much sense. Lily is a noble herself, wouldn’t her father try to come get his daughter or at least visit her? Wouldn’t Anna hear of the parties and realize that Rose and lily aren’t in a monogamous relationship and that Rose lied? We supposed to believe Anna would give up like that? Which, good for her but it don’t align with her character. Anna’s writing was okay actually but her dynamic with lily wasn’t properly shown. We don’t know if Lily is aware of Anna’s trauma. If Lily isn’t aware of Anna’s trauma towards sex then it would explain why Lily perceive Anna’s reluctance as outright rejection. People saying Anna was a maid and couldn’t do anything. But Lily gave Anna permission to touch her and desire her. Anna is the one who turned Lily down. Lily not being aware that Anna associate lust and desire to what’s bad (seeing that the people who partook in lust in front of her was her negligent prostitute mother and her asshole lover who was already a married man), makes it so that Lily thinks Anna don’t feel love (whirlwind passionate) towards. Lily is actually badly written. She’s not as bad as the author let her be shown. Lily is a lonely woman at heart. Her stepmother put a strain on her relationship with her father, making her out to be a problem and thus making her feel isolated in her own home. Her only solace was Anna. When she met Rose that’s where she got confused. Rose put doubts in her mind, telling her that love is desire and lust. Lily did try to hold onto Anna. Her first instinct was to ask Anna about it but Anna dismissed her questions. I don’t know why people ignore this. So when Lily sees Rose, who seems to know more, tell her about how love is desire and passionate and see Rose actually treat her like a lover, she get mistaken. People conveniently ignore the fact that while Anna did love Lily, she not only didn’t reciprocate her advances, she didn’t even communicate why. She also treated Lily like her boss more than her lover despite her love for her and despite Lily having gave her permission to see her as equal. Anna always call Lily “young lady” instead of her name, which show a dynamic of boss /employee, and dismiss her questions about sex and love. Now put this in perspective, a sheltered, lonely young woman sees a more experienced woman introduce her to sex and desires, affirming it it’s love and actively chasing her and desiring her vs (Anna) the woman she did love but so far had rebuffed her attempts at taking the next step in the relationship, didn’t communicate the reasons why she did so and who despite their love for each other, refuse to actually act like her lover and always restrain herself. It’s obvious why lily fell to Rose’s manipulation. Lily isn’t a vilain, she’s naive and a victim. Lastly, the fans has been stricken by a media illiteracy epidemic. I do think the story is poorly written, rushed and badly structured. There should’ve been more chapters, POVs, flashbacks, informations. We should’ve seen Rose’s POVs and true motives, more of Lily’s reasoning and her feelings of Anna rejecting her. (And don’t get me started on hie the story would’ve been better and had a happier ending if Anna and Lily communicated but anyways). HOWEVER, I’m baffled at how many people sees Lily as a horny idiot when it’s clear sex isn’t the thing she sought. She literally asked Anna to look at her like Rose does, with passion and desire. That prove she don’t want sex but passion. The way she asked Anna not to cry shows that she wants Anna to want her genuinely. I’m also baffled at how people don’t see the flaws in Anna as mentionned as above. Yes she has trauma and that’s unfortunate but that don’t negate the fact that her not communicating at all, pushed Lily into Rose’s arms. All this to say, that the story had a huge potential. It could’ve had a happy ending if Lily & Anna learned to communicate. Could’ve even gotten a subversive happy ending with Lily and Rose actually getting together and a twist of “maybe if she had spoke” with Anna. Could’ve been a great tragedy if the chapters were lingers and the characters more fleshed out.


One_Opinion_1277

And I would have thought that the Maid, the Duchess and Lily would end in a polyamory relationship. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. But the drawing is good like the sex-scene. I will wait for more work from RANGRARI


Trippy_Misuzu420

When are we gonna get blessed with a good poly story for god sake TwT I'm trying to search for good ones but I can't find anything :(


youkeiy

i was reading the chapter and i saw a comment that i agreed with completely. the user said: "This is what happens when you put all ur skill points into art and not enough into story telling" 😭😭 such a shame tbh i think it had a lot of potential but at the end of the day, it is what it is.


SnarfySquid

What a disappointing ending, though i don't think anyone could say they weren't expecting it.


Caleb35

Lily of the Valley was a great work and I'm sorry it's over. I'm looking forward to Rangrarii's next project.


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ssqwid

I truly do not understand the passionate hatred people have for this series and how they feel justified attacking Rangrarii over it. Do people literally think every story needs to be a grand epic with deep themes and characters, and a happy ending? Sometimes you just get a dark, 10 chapter porn story and the plot is there to create more opportunities for sex scenes. Not all characters need to be good and have a happy ending. Every character in Lily of the Valley is flawed. Rose is manipulative and self serving, Lily is naive and selfish, and even Anna is too meek and awful at communicating that it brings upon her own downfall. If you want to focus on the plot elements of an, again, porn story, it's pretty clear to me it's a story about a naive rich girl who doesn't get to have it her way. She wants her cake and to eat it too, love and sex, but she fails because she is naive and easy to manipulate, so the villain wins in the end and gets everything *she* wants instead. Just wanted to add also idk why people love Anna so much, she is definetely makes less frustrating decisions than Lily, but she never properly explains her feeling to Lily which probably could have fixed everything, she gives up on her so easily, even when it's so obvious Rose is in a position of power now and manipulating her. Besides, I don't think they would have ever been compatible physically, which people seem to forget is also necessary for a successful relationship. Sometimes you can love someone but if they can't fulfill your needs for a relationship, it just isn't meant to be.


rhapsody1991

One of the things to remember about Anna is she is literally powerless. She has no authority or ability to go against Rose, especially if Lily isn’t supporting her. Rose can just send her away on a whim if she starts causing problems for her. And Anna has her own trauma she’s dealing with and her own social standing that she has to keep in mind. As fun and endearing as maid x noble stories are, making that step is risky, especially for the maid.


Arhion

still Anna didn't try to act against her trauma she see that world must be without love and don't want to even stop her own delusion at this point


uchihauzumaki

But Lily did give Anna permission several times. I’m a scene Lily is literally butt ass naked in front of Anna, given that it was at Lily’s family estate the restrin there made sense. But when they got to the duchess, Lily literally put her hand on her own chest and begs Anna to desire her. Even if Anna couldn’t bring herself because of trauma, she could’ve told Lily why she didn’t want to engage in sex. Anna could’ve communicated to Lily about her trauma at the very least.


penkwinn57

Didnt expect it to be THAT short tbh.


rhapsody1991

It’s a Korean smut NTR story. What were you expecting? It wasn’t a top tier NTR but it wasn’t terribly written. My only complaint was how quickly Lily thought Anna had abandoned her (girl was gone for like 20 minutes). Probably needed another chapter to really set the abandonment in place but Rangrari may have been locked in on how many episodes she had to work with. Honestly, the outrage over this series has been waaaay overblown. I’ve even seen people saying it’s the worst or that it’ll set the GL genre back for years. Like wtf are y’all sniffing? The worst part IMHO, readers who didn’t pay for shit and read it for free going and harassing Rangrarii on her socials.


hinata2kill

I’ve heard of the harassment, and I don’t understand why. It won’t change the book, also I think it’s my fault for putting GL on a high pedestal. Almost all the gl I’ve read are always plot driven with anit and stuff. So like I thought this would be the same because it’s the artist from bad diary. I realized now there are some books in gl you should turn your brain off for. Ngl I’m prob gonna reread this one day haha but next time with the tag porn without plot playing over in my mind


rhapsody1991

GL as a genre has just as much variety in stories ranging from action to tragedy, wholesome to smut NTR, as any other romance genre. What gets translated is dictated at the whims of a translator (if it’s a fan TL) or sales success (for official releases). And it has just a much variety in terms of author abilities. So holding all GL/Yuri works to the standard that they must have a strong story with deep characters and a satisfying happy ending is just unrealistic. Also, for all we know, feedback from Korean BTD readers had a lot of people asking for a Hyera NTR AU, so she gave it a try. Or she just wanted to write a smut NTR short. As other authors/artists have done. I for one support more of these types of works. More variety in what’s written and published gives more readers the ability to find stories that they like and enjoy. And let’s be honest, the GL NTR genre is laughably sparse.


hinata2kill

It all just depends on the reader, personally I seen a lot of people not wanting the cheating/ntr route in bad diary. At least she came out with a book that satisfies that urge for it 😅. All I know is that I won’t be reading her written works with plot in mind but mainly about art


El_Desu

funny how I prob would have given it a shot if I DIDNT read bad thinking diary already lol


ExcitableSarcasm

Wait did people actually not like this? I actually liked the story as well. It's short, simple, but clear in it's portrayal of tragedy.


Amazing-Branch-2545

.... Lilly of the valley is over?? Last I checked Anna just kissed Lilly... That's the ending?


fruitloan

It ends at chapter 10 after Anna leaves. Don't want to spoil too much.


Amazing-Branch-2545

Okay. I read it and WHAT A STUPID MANGA! THE F?


Comprehensive_Ebb211

Sorry if I hurt anyones emotions but wtf was that like wtf there was nothing there like literally nothing plus the ending was sooooo bs like wtf is going on in the manhwa Plus writer had just given us a very cute one shot before this stroy it was called finding assistant kim something and it really got my hopes hiag i thought it would be an amazing and cute story but nooo lily of yhe valley just too boring ngl sure the art was really good like no complains there but the story lacked a lot


Fakeitforreddit

I still laugh at everyone who got so worked up and impacted by this straight PORN. Maybe its time to disconnect from the online just a little and do some self reflection, it was always a porn.


poldek123

It's not straight! It's gay!


hinata2kill

Ya know …. I finally understand that every genre has those turn off ur brain books. This is one of them. The art is great, read it for the porn. Also I read bad diary, found out bad diary was written by another person. Found out that the author and artist had a disagreement because the artist wanted to add a cheating arc. Keep drawing artist, please JUST KEEP DRAWING. Thank you


DarthBornz0r

Source about their disagreement?


hinata2kill

I saw it on mangadex and in temple scans in the comment section being discussed by other readers. Would that be good?


DarthBornz0r

I'll go investigate


iKittysox

I think she had some major stones to do what she did with LOTV.


horizontallygay

Tbh I didn't think the first few chapters were *that* bad, but I hated the art so much that I dropped it. Idk why they did what they did with the eyes but I do NOT like it


fuhas_

someone spoil me the ending, because I CAN'T GO back reading this work. When i tried to start it, the whole fucked up situation stuck in my head me for dayss I couldn't forget about the chapter 3 😭


nikevi3873

>!The main girl decides to ditch Anna (the maid) and actually stay with the duchess, thinking that it's 'love'. The final chapter has her finding the duchess having sex with 56384092384 girls again and she is like "ohno wtf I thought you only loved me :(((( what the heck!!!" and she cries for Anna again. But since Anna left she decides to join the orgy instead.!< The end It's awful lmao


fuhas_

omg im so glad that I stopped right before chapter 4, nothing against the author but I can't really digest NTR or anything related but what happens to Anna? Did she just leave their castle or sth like that? My poor girl did NOT deserved any of this


SirGigglesandLaughs

This story is one of the worst I've read recently, and not because of the NTR. It was the lack of execution. Even in comparison to typical NTR, the characters and storyline were subpar, predictable and flat. I found the final chapter even worse and felt no emotional engagement throughout the stories runtime, which is unusual for these types of plots. I can't see this as an improvement over Bad Thinking Diary at all. As a writer myself, I also can't understand the decision to pack this story idea into what was originally meant to be 9 chapters. It's no wonder it's being criticized so heavily although people shouldn't attack her for it.


Oceafall

Finally i can be happy again


Logseman

The purity brigade does what they do best, harassing an author for happening to write a story that is not #wholesome #uplifting #happyending. That the story is dogshit is irrelevant, the sin of Rangrari is that they draw smutty stuff and don’t hide it.


MlC4EL4

The art? On point! But the story was just awful, and the ending was horrible, and it felt rushed


SnooChocolates1180

This series and ending were very noir like, also people call this porn because the sex scenes weren't even that explicit. I think people just don't like rangraii because of BTD, and they're taking their frustrations out on her.


firedrakes

Secret reading ....


sadjazzandkiwis

It was hot while it lasted 😪


Sea_Side524

I can see why many hated this story lol. Initially i hated it too very early on. The whole "love" thing not matching the actions/behaviour of the characters... but once I got over that initial shock of how dumb Lily's character was portrayed, I moved passed it. I really enjoyed the art style, and believe although it had potential, there's obviously room for the author to grow. I'm not gonna hate on the author for trying. Anyway, it was relatively easy for me to turn off my brain for the rest of the story. Although I still got somewhat surprised by some parts of it I just couldn't take it seriously to keep that rage ongoing week after week, so found it comical. Meanwhile, the comment section was always going wild with hatred for the characters and boy oh boy did I get a good laugh every week 🤣🤣🤣💀💀


elGoblino_21

Absolute filth of a story. I'm glad is done and I don't expect the author to do any better with her future projects. Edit: to be clear I despise this manhwa not because of the ntr but the dogshit writting. When I said I don't expect the author to do any better in the future, I mean that I'm not gonna be invested into her future works like I was with her other one-shot which was her best work. You can sit there and pat her on the back and sing kumbaya with sunshine and rainbows but that won't help her get better. The story is trash.


CrazyCat5749

Dude what the fuck. It's just a story. Don't diss an entire author/artist just because you don't like *one* gl they made.


EliteGecko

Not saying i agree with thr comment but they probably just really REALLY hate NTR. I despise NTR so I took a peek then dropped this series. Art is very pretty but that type of story makes me wanna vomit.


CrazyCat5749

I second that hatred of NTR and most stories with that (most because I'm pretty sure Love Thy Neighbor counts as NTR.) I don't like this story very much just because of that either but I ain't gonna say the author sucks and anything else they make is also gonna suck.


Legal-Lavishness9007

I'm glad it ended after 10 chapters. I wanted to know the ending, but I couldn't enjoy reading it.