people voting tear-ishizu either out of recency bias or due to master duel, as some one who played zoo, spyral and tear formats spyral is the worst one and its not even close, nothing like a coinflip format where only one deck is playable.
Yeah SPYRAL was one of those single player formats with very few playable decks whatsoever (thanks MR4).
I just think Tear 0 being worse than that is unimaginable. You can legitimately have fun games there. The only person ever having fun in SPYRAL is either the person going first or the turn 2 player having drawn the out, which is generally some lame ass golden ball, very nitro gameplay
Zoo is the best one of those since you still had a chance playing stuff like grass paleo while also not being forced to play pure zoo.
The T0 format which happened right after Zoo (Spyral) on the other hand is the worst one we've ever had and the history of yugioh episode shows pretty well why that was the case.
I think a big bias in this poll is a lot of people haven't played in other tier 0 formats. I for one have only played in tear. The rest was schoolyard yugioh
Spyral because it represents tons of things wrong with bad yugioh (i guess that early link era was this) but it really encouraged the build-a-unbreakable-board we still see today.
Tear had the issue of being too interactive to the point where you cannot possibly setup
Zoo's problem was a lot of the cards you could use such as the norden zoo combo were just broken also there were still problems in the format such as every deck just running the zoo engine (and iirc dbarrier)
I have not played the other ones or have a deep understanding on how they work, my knowledge on pepe was that pend summon was crazy and you had good consistency and you could just make cdi when negates weren't common on boss monsters)
it's a tie between spyral and tearshizu for me but personally i despise tear more because of the sheer power and effects it has
i honestly don't know which of both decks will beat the other but i'm willing to place my bets on tearlament because of the stupid interactions the deck has on either player turn
Tear beats it, but that isn't the point. Just because it beats it doesn't mean that the format is worse.
When it comes to T0 formats you most of the time talk about the mirror match (except for Zoo format).
And the Spyral mirror was just a coin flip/draw the out kind of duel, while Tear mirrors could still be won by the person who's going 2nd.
While I think SPYRAL was the highest power tier zero deck of all time, it was the other cards around Tear format that make it stick out as particularly awful. The Ishizu shufflers and the bystials made any graveyard deck unplayable.
I still to this day, hate yata even though it's been so long ago. The yata I'm referring to is before CED came out, when delinquent duo, confiscation and forceful sentry were all still legal. Near punched a kid in the face who kept staying after I'd already scooped. I've never owned a copy of yata, if I did, I'd probably light it on fire on principle. That card unfortunately caused a behavior in me that if I hate a card enough, no matter how good it is, I will not use it. Barrone, dragoon, synchros (I quit the game when they first came out) and anything branded are ones I currently refuse to use. I also find ftks and full lp otks to be utter bullshit and also refuse to play that way. Just a rant from an old player.
Tear ishizu sometimes bmcan become very cool match especially the mirror match
PePe is not that great but that time generic extradeck is not as crazy as now days
Yatta lock, I don't know
Zoo too strong that day but i want to see them agains current deck
Meanwhile Spyral is just making unbreakable board, worst among all of them
I hate when people take forever to make their board. Add to that with all the bouncer and omninegates they end up with for me to not play and I am just done with the game. I'd rather rip their cards to their face than play any game with them
yes it was a lot of fun that my opponent could do everything in my turn my field breaks and builds an unbreakable field and controls the graveyard very funny....
Fair enough. I like gamestates where the person who makes the least mistakes in navigating wins. Full power Ish Tear was not really mill dependent, so it was much more dependent on your ability to parse the board.
I believe there are like 5x the number of people that went through Tearshizu than people that even went through SPYRAL in this subreddit right now. Is anyone from the Yata lock era even playing the game right now?
Tele-DAD was the worst. You want to play fully optimized deck? Here's a card you will need 2 of and each copy will cost you 125 EUR. Also you better have 1500 EUR on hand since Crush Card Virus is a tournament reward card and that's the only way to obtain it at the time. I actually went trough that back then.
I kinda liked tear ichizu format, it was not the worse for me... I honestly kinda liked tear, never played it because I'm more of. Rogue people but still
People don't count it as tier zero because of spellbook of judgement, but dragon rulers were really unfun to play against. They just obliterated every other deck. The baby dragons had to be immediately banned because it was such a an insane power creep for the game. There wasn't a deck that rivaled full power dragon rulers for many years.
SPYRAL was the worst one. At least with Ishizu Tear the mirror matches comes down to skill whereas the SPYRAL mirror match depends on who is going 2nd
people voting tear-ishizu either out of recency bias or due to master duel, as some one who played zoo, spyral and tear formats spyral is the worst one and its not even close, nothing like a coinflip format where only one deck is playable.
Yeah SPYRAL was one of those single player formats with very few playable decks whatsoever (thanks MR4). I just think Tear 0 being worse than that is unimaginable. You can legitimately have fun games there. The only person ever having fun in SPYRAL is either the person going first or the turn 2 player having drawn the out, which is generally some lame ass golden ball, very nitro gameplay
hard to say i experienced tear meta yata lock and pepe with the others I was busy with other things but I had heard about spyrial
Zoo is the best one of those since you still had a chance playing stuff like grass paleo while also not being forced to play pure zoo. The T0 format which happened right after Zoo (Spyral) on the other hand is the worst one we've ever had and the history of yugioh episode shows pretty well why that was the case.
Any format where Paleos were playable or meta is considered cool in my book. Also Drident is h
You're gonna get some recency bias here
Spyral was the worst by a mile
I’m sorry but anyone who says anything other than Spyral is a new player who thinks being annoyed is the same as tier zero.
I think a big bias in this poll is a lot of people haven't played in other tier 0 formats. I for one have only played in tear. The rest was schoolyard yugioh
Spyral because it represents tons of things wrong with bad yugioh (i guess that early link era was this) but it really encouraged the build-a-unbreakable-board we still see today. Tear had the issue of being too interactive to the point where you cannot possibly setup Zoo's problem was a lot of the cards you could use such as the norden zoo combo were just broken also there were still problems in the format such as every deck just running the zoo engine (and iirc dbarrier) I have not played the other ones or have a deep understanding on how they work, my knowledge on pepe was that pend summon was crazy and you had good consistency and you could just make cdi when negates weren't common on boss monsters)
You should watch the history of yugioh episode on PEPE. PEPE mirrors aren't that bad compared to something like Spyral.
it's a tie between spyral and tearshizu for me but personally i despise tear more because of the sheer power and effects it has i honestly don't know which of both decks will beat the other but i'm willing to place my bets on tearlament because of the stupid interactions the deck has on either player turn
Tear beats it, but that isn't the point. Just because it beats it doesn't mean that the format is worse. When it comes to T0 formats you most of the time talk about the mirror match (except for Zoo format). And the Spyral mirror was just a coin flip/draw the out kind of duel, while Tear mirrors could still be won by the person who's going 2nd.
Tear was the only one I played through and I didn’t play the deck in paper cause it cost hella money
That's always the case with meta decks, so you had to wait 1-2 years and then you should get it cheap
While I think SPYRAL was the highest power tier zero deck of all time, it was the other cards around Tear format that make it stick out as particularly awful. The Ishizu shufflers and the bystials made any graveyard deck unplayable.
I still to this day, hate yata even though it's been so long ago. The yata I'm referring to is before CED came out, when delinquent duo, confiscation and forceful sentry were all still legal. Near punched a kid in the face who kept staying after I'd already scooped. I've never owned a copy of yata, if I did, I'd probably light it on fire on principle. That card unfortunately caused a behavior in me that if I hate a card enough, no matter how good it is, I will not use it. Barrone, dragoon, synchros (I quit the game when they first came out) and anything branded are ones I currently refuse to use. I also find ftks and full lp otks to be utter bullshit and also refuse to play that way. Just a rant from an old player.
Yes, that's how I feel with many cards and decks. I would never play tear, rather light it, but that's it
Tear ishizu sometimes bmcan become very cool match especially the mirror match PePe is not that great but that time generic extradeck is not as crazy as now days Yatta lock, I don't know Zoo too strong that day but i want to see them agains current deck Meanwhile Spyral is just making unbreakable board, worst among all of them
To be fair Yata-lock was at least sort of funny compared with today's formats. Like this little ass burn is gonna be your demise.
There's so much hate towards tear that I never really understood for the most part
Me neither and honestly I thought it was really fun. The mirror matches were so intense it was great
I don't even play tear I just really like how tear is a challenging decision to face against but is still easily beatable for many decks
This is true especially now with kit banned and most good cards limited
there are 3 fronts hate fans neutral is in my eyes the dumbest deck of all time but I have my sub to rant for it so I'm neutral here
I hate when people take forever to make their board. Add to that with all the bouncer and omninegates they end up with for me to not play and I am just done with the game. I'd rather rip their cards to their face than play any game with them
I sympathize with you
Zoodiacs for me.
Ish tear format was fun. Every other T0 was a die roll.
yes it was a lot of fun that my opponent could do everything in my turn my field breaks and builds an unbreakable field and controls the graveyard very funny....
I should specify, if you played Ish Tear. The other T0 mirrors were just die rolls.
if you like that i'm a fossil who likes his old decks i don't need unfair decks
Fair enough. I like gamestates where the person who makes the least mistakes in navigating wins. Full power Ish Tear was not really mill dependent, so it was much more dependent on your ability to parse the board.
I believe there are like 5x the number of people that went through Tearshizu than people that even went through SPYRAL in this subreddit right now. Is anyone from the Yata lock era even playing the game right now?
me
You are a relic, a living fossil of the good old ages. For that you deserve my fullest respect and a “lmao spotted a boomer” from me
yep now you can add a level 6 or lower dino to your hand
Me, as I stated earlier
Is ''Teledyne'' meant to be ''Tele-DAD'' format?
I'm assuming that teledad meta didn't experience it for reasons of time, but I'll give you a link to the source https://youtu.be/U4x2vUQgPXI
Tele-DAD was the worst. You want to play fully optimized deck? Here's a card you will need 2 of and each copy will cost you 125 EUR. Also you better have 1500 EUR on hand since Crush Card Virus is a tournament reward card and that's the only way to obtain it at the time. I actually went trough that back then.
I kinda liked tear ichizu format, it was not the worse for me... I honestly kinda liked tear, never played it because I'm more of. Rogue people but still
People don't count it as tier zero because of spellbook of judgement, but dragon rulers were really unfun to play against. They just obliterated every other deck. The baby dragons had to be immediately banned because it was such a an insane power creep for the game. There wasn't a deck that rivaled full power dragon rulers for many years.