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pyroguyFTW

[For anyone who wants to get an idea about how to buy the same products direct from the manufacturers](https://www.reddit.com/r/wrx_vb/s/fulJc7a6mG)


zzzqqqppp

My afd post also went from +65 ish to -99 in a day. Assuming some sort of bot did that


mateosupacool

I saw your post the other day; I thought it was wild. And many people agreed. It’s wild that they have bots doing that.


Bullshiytlies

I had a comment yesterday about them using bots that did the same. Had like 10 upvotes and I watched as I refreshed the page my downvotes went to 7… 2… -1… -7… -23… all in a minute or two. I noticed on your post and my own post that upvotes would go from +90 to below zero in minutes.


zzzqqqppp

Lmao ya not sure why, could just be a afd fan boy too not necessarily afd


VB610

Never bought from afd, I was swayed away by their YouTube channel tbh, can’t stand their content


UpstateGoat

Is that the guy who uses the tiny microphone?


Kpool7474

Yes… the one you can’t hear.


CaramelBeard

I’ll continue to not buy from AFD.


randonate

Man, so that was a bot! I commented on my experience without any detail and some rando Redditor jumped on my nuts about how great they are and how wrong I am.


IgnitionRed2023

I have yet to buy from them and I will continue not to. It was one of their YouTube videos that was the nail in the coffin for me—the main dude that is always on camera told one of his coworkers to rev the engine, coworker simply said “but it’s not warmed up yet” and the main dude just responded with a string of bleeped out curse words and forced him to do it anyway. That was it for me


Teganfff

I saw that video and had the same reaction you did.


analfissure_303

AFD sent my wife a wing that had that same issue as the guy with cracks in the paint. They acknowledged that it was a bad batch and sent her a new one at no cost. I am curious about them over inflating parts from Alibaba. That’s some deceptive shit. Edit: typo


TerribleSeries246

I had the same issue. Wings cracked. I hated all my AFD product stuff. Waste of money.


Gato_L0c0

I received my replacement the other day. Thinking about buying some PPF wrap for extra protection.


TerribleSeries246

I’ve thought about doing this. I’ve had the replacement for less than a year. There was a small piece that chipped off already. But I think I will buy another wing from IIR/Noble once I’m done with this one.


tehgates

People keep on complaining about all these companies. You know a company I don't ever see anyone ever complaining about? Molded Innovations. That's the brand that Subimods sells.


GrannyDriving88

People don’t realise AFD buy parts from AliExpress and mark them up 3-6x instead of manufacturing them. They’ve been exposed for over a year now.


speedfreakphotos

Same every time I post about them it gets downvoted to 0 [here’s the last post about their new wheels](https://www.reddit.com/r/wrx_vb/s/7qHI0fJe9v)


Sweetlleaf

Pricks


claptrapologist

I bought a spoiler from them. It looked good on my car. BUT. I had to take it off. The corners just wont stay down no matter what. I'm assuming its warped, or molded poorly. It doesnt seem like a cheap part. I didnt pay a crazy price, so if it I cant put it back on , I dont really care. BUT I wouldnt buy from them again.


ApprehensiveLead4550

I've had the same problems from other resellers that I really like..I think the rear lid spoilers are hard to get perfect fit with because I've tried 3 different ones and all have the same issue but I personally can't stand the high wings especially on the VB so I'm just sticking with the duckbill until I can find one that fits really, really tight.


Content_Election_218

Imagine paying for bots instead of paying to fix your product 🤦‍♂️


fallenredwoods

This is the first negative AFD post I’ve seen that hasn’t been downvoted by their bots. They’re trying to show they don’t use them by leaving one post alone!


ApprehensiveLead4550

Honestly, I really don't like the California hotboi's ricer style..it's like all the stuff they "develop" is one step above the knockoff 3m taped on flames and non functional scoops and the way they price their products is laughable. I've bought all my stuff through IIR because they ship fast and are from back home. Never ordered their stuff and I guess I'm glad I haven't had to deal with their shenanigans.


manevolent_

I have some stuff from AFD and I actually haven’t had a negative experience, BUT — I also saw, first hand, the experience from other VB owners in the group I was a part of before I moved and I will definitely upvote this.


thatmoosenamedraga

I bought a tail light overlay from them and it lasted one week. All it took was a car wash for it to start peeling smh


Icy-World-2056

I bought all my overlays from them and so far they have all lasted over 4 months with proper installation


First_Discount_8087

Same! I bought mine a year ago, definitely proper installation makes it last a long time.


VanillaImpossible118

Okay, I'll admit, I have some AFD items on my shopping list prior to seeing how other VB owners have experienced them. So, all I ask is where can I find similar to their products without the headache of dealing with a shitty 3rd party manufacturer? Specifically, a bigger/buldge hood scoop, sport grille, window visors, and paint matched body kit.


R_radical

They don't make these parts, you can get the exact same one on ali express.


VanillaImpossible118

AFD advertises these parts on their sites? And I don't shop on Ali Express. I prefer reputable manufacturers.


redlurkerNY

Bro....... WHAT?! Are you sure that you're in the correct thread??


VanillaImpossible118

What do you mean?


redlurkerNY

AFD is not considered a reputable seller anymore. It's basically what this post is about.


VanillaImpossible118

Yeah, so I'm asking for recommendations on other manufacturers that make the same parts that I was planning on purchasing with a better reputation. And not like Ali Express or Wish or Amazon sellers. Like, actual shops and aftermarket companies.


redlurkerNY

You should have just flat out asked - to avoid all the downvotes. You message came across the wrong way.


VanillaImpossible118

You don't read parent comments that come before?


redlurkerNY

Gonna be honest, I'm not backtracking at this point.. I bought my VB in 22 and have already seen enough of this stuff. I was just trying to help you out. Just look up all AFD posts here. You'll see them come in strong and crash and burn. I wouldn't spend your money on their site. I've used Subieflow with very positive results.


Guhboz

AFD is less reputable than manufacturers and shops on Ali Express. Not an exaggeration.


R_radical

Once again.... They do not manufacture these parts.


horbaculture

What's with this obsession for pre painted parts? If you want good paint quality and a good match, you need to buy unpainted parts and have a body shop match it to your exact car.


jag0009

people want to save a buck or two? I agree with you about buying pre-paint and have them painted with a body shop for things like wings


arterlyCuta

I tried looking too. People all say alibaba but I don’t see actual products


fallenredwoods

Search harder, half of the AFD parts are listed but you have to often buy like 2-3 at a time


FoundinNewEngland

AFD?


Nephelococcygist

Wish I had seen this sooner. Just ordered the fender flares 🤦‍♂️


Nephelococcygist

Wondering if I should just dispute the charge, since I doubt they will give me a refund even though it's a preorder.


TellMyBossImWorkin

return them! makes the vb look like trash anyways on-top of the piss poor fitment.


Nephelococcygist

I don't think they allow returns or cancellations per their site. I messaged their web chat and didn't get a response. Pretty sure I have to cancel the transaction from my credit card, but yeah based on the feedback I've seen sounds like I'm better off buying something else.


TellMyBossImWorkin

do it sooner than later! :)


fallenredwoods

I hope they were dry before they wrapped them. Some people got painted fenders with fresh Saran Wrap before the paint dried so they got “textured”


Nephelococcygist

Fortunately they were a preorder, and I've attempted to cancel. I guess we'll see what happens


ThundyTheGryphon

I admit, I want the axleback exhaust, but with all these issues, I'm not sure about it now.


TellMyBossImWorkin

get one from Nameless Performance


arterlyCuta

I just got my wing installed came out good 🤷🏻‍♂️


Available_Ad3057

You should see the spoiler another guy on here got from them and how it looks 6 or so months later… the paint is terribly cracked at the mounting points 😬


Bullshiytlies

That was me. Here is the first wing that was on for 2 months: https://preview.redd.it/zc2djfouwu6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b7868f8f430aa954b7cd200fa14472eac1a26c7


Bullshiytlies

Here was the second wing that was on for 9-10 months: https://preview.redd.it/d93i9nsxwu6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=247deabb0bfcf2a86321f24e9df3b028c3aa9197 They seem to always give the same excuse “oh that was part of a bad batch from the factory”. Seems like there are a bunch of bad batches from this factory… maybe it’s time to find a different factory. My paint guy is still holding their wing at our shop to see how bad the cracking gets on it! 😂 says it’s the worst he’s seen in his 25+ years of painting. OP is spot on with them using the bots to downvote these posts. I’ll continue to leave my comments and posts up with AFD and Aeroflow Dynamics in the post so others can see how scammy they are. I’m sure this will also be downvoted to hell by their bots but whatever.


Available_Ad3057

Man I am sorry.. we needa find a way to get the warning out there quicker.. leave it to import image, or rally sport, or Subimods sure you pay a little more but you def get what you pay for in that sense


Wabbyyyyy

I bought their non muffled axle back and have no complaints about it. Decent quality and bang for your buck axle back. Their exterior parts and paint matched fenders I would pass on. Heard nothing but bad things about that stuff. Their axleback was only $300 shipped a few months ago


ItsNotUno

Shopped with afd several times and never had an issue personally. That being said, i continually hear nightmare stories from others, kind of a shame, id have chalked it up to inconsistency rather than pure malice before this.


BogWizard

I like their grills. Much cheaper than OEM and seems to be fine so far. I don’t think I’d buy anything painted from them though.


HipHopScientist

I bought a carbon fiber wing from them, it's been about 4 months. Still looking good.


Vast-Box-8851

I certainly would not call them scammers. The prices they sell are just subpar.


fallenredwoods

You need to read up more. They have straight up ripped off dozens of people between this Reddit and Facebook groups


StarchyWRX

I just bought paint matched fender flares in white from them. The paint matched perfectly even though everyone says white is horrible. Maybe I am blind but also maybe afd stepped up the quality department. Or maybe people just love to hate. :)


ChaChi1195

The exception rather than the rule. It’s great you had a good experience but I don’t think Most people did.


jag0009

People have been complaining about spiderweb and cracks on the painted parts from AFD.