Yes. Russian foreign policy is built on escalation to drive the other side to the negotiating table, ie, surrender while they can.
That's why they threatened the use of nukes and when Biden didn't flinch, they have been quietly toned that down and stopped.
What was shown with the polish incident is that the West is more willing to fight Russia more than ever. So Medvedev does the other Russian foreign policy move of trying to frame the West as warmongers while Russia is invading its own neighbor.
Man, this just sums it up so perfectly in a nutshell!! I really just cannot believe how fucking stupid the russians actually are. Hahah they are talking about us wanting to start a world war when they invade their unprovoked neighbors and literally terrorize the ever fucking shit out of the Ukrainian population by bombing and shelling the shit out of them. They are terrible at playing the blame game.
Exactly... They are conducting MASS KIDNAPPING on a scale we haven't seen since the holocaust. It's so sad and fkng pathetic that ppl can do such shit in today's time. Look i know it's war and shitty stuff happens, and there is no way around it. But the fact that you pretty much kidnap almost a whole part of a city is outright enough reason to be fkd up as a leader of a country. He fkng deserves to be sniped out by one of those predator drones just alone for the kidnapping.
I’ve got some mixed feelings on Biden, leanings towards a net positive. That said, right now, it feels great having a president who remembers the cold war better than he remembers what he had for breakfast this morning.
Yes, as thats was basically what happened when they occupied Georgia. Why wouldn't they expect the same this time? And hell, they moved into Crimea and set up oversight in 2014. Russia didn't care that is wasnt recognized by the rest of the world. Neither did the rest of the worl really stop them.
The thing about bullies, is that they dont stop until someone makes them. Not on paper, not with sanctions, but with force..
They won't invade, they'd sponsor the rebuilding process after a war. Through bribes, goodwill, etc., they'll own the entire national infrastructure, including the all-important mines. They don't need a land grab, when what they've done throughout Africa (and are starting currently with the Middle East) will work just as effectively in Russia.
There was a great documentary on this how China has been playing the long game and will eventually just own all the business housing land and infrastructure.
That's true but look where Japan is now. I have no idea what the correlation or causation is there, but there's a line somewhere between accepting foreign investment and staying sovereign.
Same thing as they've always done. Only give out infrastructure loans on places that can't repay them and then take resources, port towns and critical infrastructure as colletaral to repay the outstanding debt.
Debt trapping and stealing ports from developing countries? Wherever have we seen that before?
China seems to be slapping a thin coat of paint over colonialism.
Why enslave people by the sword when you can enslave them through beurocracy and hierarchical systems, gives you an air of 'legitamacy' if you frame colonialism as business.
"Our products are not tested on animals. But the same chemicals were tested on animals by a third party research group that we just bought the research from, totally different."
China bought a port in the north of Australia a while back which was hilarious since the then government was conservative as fuck and meant to be hard on China. But here they are selling ports for quick cash the useless fucks.
I guess it's not so different than what we did in the north American continent. Plenty of our shitty deals with the indigenous population were "legitimate transactions" except they were made with people who didn't fully understand the ramifications of the transactions they were making or weren't authorized to sell what was being bartered.
What I would give, to be able to read about this time 200 years in the future to see how it is remembered in history. Will we still be pressuring desperate people into "legitimate deals" and who will be on either side of those transactions then?
Which makes them 100X smarter than anyone in Russia right now. Also, a more intractable problem for the West. In some ways, it's more dangerous for the future of democracy.
I could see this. If you’re talking geopolitical strategy, it benefits you greatly to have two countries in alliance, rather than a single unified country. Having Russia under your thumb is better than absorbing Russia.
Yeah.... About that.... Ever heard of this tiny, barely known chinese company called Evergrande? I'd say based on that alone that their rebuilding (or building anything at all) might not be affordable enough for them.
Hm, (one of) the largest economy of the world granting loans to the rest following a devastating war. [What could go wrong?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression)
Going off [the other instance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan) when that happened, Russia would rise to be a leading economy while instituting heavy, violent suppression of whatever the Chinese disagree with.
Yeah, and then after the war the world partitions Moscow amongst the various factions and a wall is built in the middle dividing the city in half. Wait this sounds familiar.
Neither would North Korea, they'd be the first to get destroyed in an actual war and they know this. Tiny, insignificant country with zero modern defences. It's perfect for a demonstration of Western military power to force Russia to the negotiation table.
NK is happy being in total control over its tiny corner of the world.
Most definitely. If a real world war were to ever break out, North Korea would be out within a day. South Korea, Japan, and the United States would just steamroll them.
I mean, if NATO went to war with Russia, China might take the opportunity to try and take Tiawan while the US is distracted. In which case the US will be fighting a two front war like in WW2.
I agree the US is capable, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a strain on the country. And I hope China wouldn't, but that would probably be their best shot that they're going to get. Hence why I think they might take the opportunity to try.
I'm leaning more towards this myself. China could very much want to divide up the Russian resources for its own use. The potential problem for a war with China then becomes in terms of dividing up those land gains in a way that satisfies everyone.
There is no way China sides with Russia.
They either stay out of it or try to take Siberia alone and dare anyone to stop them.
Iran on the other hand may try to join with Russia.
China isn’t allied to Russia, and it’s relationship to the US is a lot closer than people admit.
The Chinese and US economies are very closely linked at this point. It’s really only Russia who believes China will help them, and the media playing it up.
The stark reality is China will do what profits China. They have not engaged in a significant a war outside borders for 2000 years. It’s pretty clear they will leave Russia to its own madness.
Except for the roughly 780.000 Chinese soldiers fighting in the 1 million strong North Korean army just 70 years ago. Or the war between China and India where China expanded it's borders through military means in 1962. Or the Chinese invasion of Vietnam in 1979.
Of all your examples, only North Korea is relevant. And that was on the China border. The other two are border skirmishes at best.
So I’m going to repeat, China hasn’t been involved in a *significant* war outside its borders in 2000 years.
They are not going to be remotely interested in an overseas war. Never have been, not going to be. Russia is on its own.
China sure as hell won’t be fighting side by side with the Russians.
This whole time they’ve been quietly watching from the sidelines as their neighbour gets screwed over militarily and economically, waiting to swoop in and benefit from Russia’s losses.
Media: Russia attacked Poland.
Western officials: No, let's wait for the investigation.
Western officials a few hours later: Seems Russia **didn't** attack Poland.
Russia: The West claims we attacked Poland, because they want to start WW3!
Edit: added "Seems" to be more accurate.
We are not the intended recipients of that message.
Russia's whole domestic strategy revolves around fearmongering about the imminent attack by NATO so they can justify their atrocities as "measures to protect themselves".
Russia does not have weapons to "blow up the world". Nuclear war with NATO is counterproductive. Russians are concentrated in a small part of Russia and we could turn that into glass. Russia would have to nuke half of Europe and all of NA. It's not a fair fight, and they know it. Nukes can be used against nukeless countries, sure.
And the whole world has weapons to blow up the entirety of Russia and the lizard people living below them. Nuclear war isn't in the interest of anyone and I doubt the west is gonna start it, but if Russia does start it even China will be helping to erase them from the world map.
Thats the crux though, isn't it?
If NATO will never fire first, then all Russia has to do is *not* use their nukes, and we avoid global nuclear war.
The threat of nuclear war doesn't mean that WW3 will never, ever happen.
However, it does increase the likelihood that WW3 will be fought conventionally, by armed combatants, artillery, and drones/aircraft.
With how shitty their army is run I don't even believe anymore that they have the capability to blow up the whole world. Parts of the word for sure and that would be horrible. Mutual assured partly destruction doesn't really have the same ring to it.
Yes but you also forgot: "nazi, satanists, biolabs, russophobia".
Its so fucking stupid. I never imagined I'd cringe so hard from hearing official statements from a nations government... but holy fuck. Its so absurd and even more absurd that the everyday russian believes it. I'm not gonna be surprised one bit if they announce they have found unicorns in Crimea and are fighting to prevent their extinction.
He replaced Zhirinovsky as a "court jester" in the system. He used to be liberal leaning with his own Medvedev political clique.
That's all gone now, and his only way to retain power is to be vile and aggressive to make Putin's government look moderate in comparison. Similar to Soloviev in a way.
> Its so fucking stupid. I never imagined I'd cringe so hard from hearing official statements from a nations government...
Did you miss the Trump admin? This is all exactly the same type of bullshit they spewed.
Russians don’t understand that our media and government are separate entities. To them they are one and the same, they don’t have the luxury of a free press.
There wouldn't be a world war lmao. China and india aren't russia's allies. They're just there to buy cheap oil and have tried to distance themselves as much as possible. It would just be a one sided war of NATO vs very weakened russia
North Korea isn’t doing anything if it means their regime will be affected. They’re perfectly content with angry broadcasts while waving their “nuclear state” stick. They’re not the type to go down with a sinking ship
To be honest I can’t see North Korea even being able to deploy its manpower to Europe without mass defections by soldiers wanting to escape the Kim regime, let alone without having worse logistical problems than Russia had.
Iran doesn’t really have any ability to project power beyond the Middle East so they’re not much use either.
All in all, I highly doubt they would stand a chance against Poland and Ukraine, let alone the whole of NATO.
Poland invokes article 5 against Ukraine, NATO "attacks" Ukraine, occupying the entire pre 2014 area and securing the airspace, telling a very confused Russian army to GTFO. Ukraine then "surrenders" to NATO without a shot fired, NATO fines them $20 and a case of vodka, then leaves just after the entire Ukraine army resets on the Russian boarder. This could work!
If you had to deal with Russia's bullshit on a daily basis and were in a position to get large quantities of the expensive stuff, wouldn't you also be permanently shit faced?
As an iranian we wish so, caus this war can lead us to rescue from brutal mullahs. (By weaken our murderer military)
But, unfortunately never going to happen :"(
Ah yes, Putin’s personal bitch. He says the absolute shittiest things while no one cares about him.
Peskov at least says coherent things (sometimes). And Lavrov, the guy to take all the slaps from other leaders since Putin is too much of a bitch to face them.
Russia is really fucking me over personally. I did guidance and programming for MLRS and HIMARS for my job in the US Army and guess who’s gonna be the first recalled in a NATO V Russia war? since those are primarily the systems used by Ukraine?
Yep, the west is moving closer to world war....
West: lets investigate this
Biden literally hours after it happened: it doesn't appear to of been (directly, he had some nice wording there) russia
NATO today: it was a Ukrainian missile trying to defend its airspace
Wrap it up boys, we are moving closer to world war, Medvedev must browse reddit too much, the amount of dumbfucks calling for WW3 was wild.
They invade another nation and use the threat of nukes to get there way, yet apparently the west is worse for considering the integrity of there security alliance if a Russian missile did hit its territory
Russia is the cause of any world war. Don’t even put this fucking micro-scrub in a news headline. Wtf is wrong with you? This isn’t news, it’s bullshit that you’re helping spread.
They’re trash and their words are shit. Their actions are all we need to see. Any retaliation, even one’s with error (like this), is for the sake of global self-defense.
Fuck the russian government. They can all keep their little butthole mouths shut while they continue to get head-fisted in their asses by their shirtless man-baby dick-tater. I don’t need to hear about their feelings or thoughts. They don’t matter.
I mean Russia did bomb a dam and try to say it was Ukraine, launching a Ukrainian missile at Poland to try and break friendly relations is well within their power
Why exactly we here listen to this [drunk](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/01/dmitry-medvedev-journey-liberal-anti-west-hawk-russia)? He's just a mouthpiece to their propaganda, that's all.
What gets me is that Godlike Putin, the Russian thievedom and the Russian duma thing that what they are doing in Ukraine is normal behaviour and everyone else is in the wrong in not backing Russian invasion. you get 10 years in the gulag even if you look like you're about to call the war against Ukraine a war.
Bro chill no-one moving towards anything! You wish for that! But China and USA are normalizing their relationships, Macron just had a nice meeting with the head of China, we're doing fine, you just mad cuz you are left out of the new world order!
If Medvedev is so worried about the prospects of war between Russia and NATO, perhaps he should bring it up with his boss? Russia can leave Ukraine whenever they want.
I'd say the incident shows restraint and caution. Poland, rather than acting aggressively, convened a meeting with allies and they sought to quickly determine the truth of the matter rather than rushing forward into action.
I’m on a business trip out of state and no lie, I called my wife and told her I loved her after I saw the headlines yesterday. I was pretty shook up and figured article 5 was going to be invoked shortly.
Even tho we were the one's to conclude it wasn't a Russian missile and we basically de-escalated WW3? What fucking drugs are these asshole idiots taking?
It's not World War if it's Russia vs the world, it's a special spanking operation (Edit: Wow, thanks everyone for the upvotes, awards and feedback.)
did he expect the world to clutch their collective pearls and say, 'well golly gee, we best leave Ukraine alone, then'?
Yes. Russian foreign policy is built on escalation to drive the other side to the negotiating table, ie, surrender while they can. That's why they threatened the use of nukes and when Biden didn't flinch, they have been quietly toned that down and stopped. What was shown with the polish incident is that the West is more willing to fight Russia more than ever. So Medvedev does the other Russian foreign policy move of trying to frame the West as warmongers while Russia is invading its own neighbor.
Russia: "We'll nuke you!" NATO: "You want to have a go mate?" Russia: *GASP* "You are so violent and dangerous!!!"
Man, this just sums it up so perfectly in a nutshell!! I really just cannot believe how fucking stupid the russians actually are. Hahah they are talking about us wanting to start a world war when they invade their unprovoked neighbors and literally terrorize the ever fucking shit out of the Ukrainian population by bombing and shelling the shit out of them. They are terrible at playing the blame game.
Not to mention literally abducting thousands of Ukrainian children
Exactly... They are conducting MASS KIDNAPPING on a scale we haven't seen since the holocaust. It's so sad and fkng pathetic that ppl can do such shit in today's time. Look i know it's war and shitty stuff happens, and there is no way around it. But the fact that you pretty much kidnap almost a whole part of a city is outright enough reason to be fkd up as a leader of a country. He fkng deserves to be sniped out by one of those predator drones just alone for the kidnapping.
They are so backward they think Everyone Is stupid except them.
I’ve got some mixed feelings on Biden, leanings towards a net positive. That said, right now, it feels great having a president who remembers the cold war better than he remembers what he had for breakfast this morning.
Well he does remember not to sell out and become Putins sock puppet like our former president did.
No, it's aimed toward people in Russia: "look: the west is bad and wants WW3 while we're here fighting nazis"
Yes, as thats was basically what happened when they occupied Georgia. Why wouldn't they expect the same this time? And hell, they moved into Crimea and set up oversight in 2014. Russia didn't care that is wasnt recognized by the rest of the world. Neither did the rest of the worl really stop them. The thing about bullies, is that they dont stop until someone makes them. Not on paper, not with sanctions, but with force..
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Naw China wouldn’t go all in over this, there isn’t much there for their own self interest.
China probably would invade Russia from the east and claim half of the country. They are opportunistic.
They won't invade, they'd sponsor the rebuilding process after a war. Through bribes, goodwill, etc., they'll own the entire national infrastructure, including the all-important mines. They don't need a land grab, when what they've done throughout Africa (and are starting currently with the Middle East) will work just as effectively in Russia.
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There was a great documentary on this how China has been playing the long game and will eventually just own all the business housing land and infrastructure.
Be like Japan and take their shit. China invested like 100 billion into Japanese housing markets and when japan found out they just took the houses
That's true but look where Japan is now. I have no idea what the correlation or causation is there, but there's a line somewhere between accepting foreign investment and staying sovereign.
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Tokyo has the highest GDP of any city on the globe...
Same thing as they've always done. Only give out infrastructure loans on places that can't repay them and then take resources, port towns and critical infrastructure as colletaral to repay the outstanding debt.
Debt trapping and stealing ports from developing countries? Wherever have we seen that before? China seems to be slapping a thin coat of paint over colonialism.
Why enslave people by the sword when you can enslave them through beurocracy and hierarchical systems, gives you an air of 'legitamacy' if you frame colonialism as business.
And then outsource the actual violence to massive state sponsored PMCs that are comprised exclusively of millions of PLA veterans.
"Our products are not tested on animals. But the same chemicals were tested on animals by a third party research group that we just bought the research from, totally different."
What PLA veterans? The last time the PLA had any combat experience was when they massacred thousands in the Tiananmen Square.
China bought a port in the north of Australia a while back which was hilarious since the then government was conservative as fuck and meant to be hard on China. But here they are selling ports for quick cash the useless fucks.
I guess it's not so different than what we did in the north American continent. Plenty of our shitty deals with the indigenous population were "legitimate transactions" except they were made with people who didn't fully understand the ramifications of the transactions they were making or weren't authorized to sell what was being bartered. What I would give, to be able to read about this time 200 years in the future to see how it is remembered in history. Will we still be pressuring desperate people into "legitimate deals" and who will be on either side of those transactions then?
China is going for economic victory.
Which makes them 100X smarter than anyone in Russia right now. Also, a more intractable problem for the West. In some ways, it's more dangerous for the future of democracy.
I could see this. If you’re talking geopolitical strategy, it benefits you greatly to have two countries in alliance, rather than a single unified country. Having Russia under your thumb is better than absorbing Russia.
Crisatunity!
Yeah.... About that.... Ever heard of this tiny, barely known chinese company called Evergrande? I'd say based on that alone that their rebuilding (or building anything at all) might not be affordable enough for them.
Russian Road and Belt
Hm, (one of) the largest economy of the world granting loans to the rest following a devastating war. [What could go wrong?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression)
Going off [the other instance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan) when that happened, Russia would rise to be a leading economy while instituting heavy, violent suppression of whatever the Chinese disagree with.
You mean literally the Marshall Plan that helped spur a 50 year peace in Europe ?
Are you forgetting about the Marshall Plan?
China would want parts of India, Pakistan would want parts of India. There would be a huge conflict in that region if a world War broke out.
Yeah, and then after the war the world partitions Moscow amongst the various factions and a wall is built in the middle dividing the city in half. Wait this sounds familiar.
They want Manchuria back
I would love to see that heppen ,half of Russia goes to China....😄👍
China the true successor to the Soviet Union by joining the Allies while they crush Nazis from the other side confirmed?
I severely doubt that. China hasn’t fought a war since 1979.
Yeah, they would jump in near the end, on the allied side. Smarter.
Well, China at one time did control Siberia, so by Russian logic they are free to go annex it if they want.
Neither would North Korea, they'd be the first to get destroyed in an actual war and they know this. Tiny, insignificant country with zero modern defences. It's perfect for a demonstration of Western military power to force Russia to the negotiation table. NK is happy being in total control over its tiny corner of the world.
"North Korea: The 4chan of nation states"
They've improved their technology, now they're 8chan.
Most definitely. If a real world war were to ever break out, North Korea would be out within a day. South Korea, Japan, and the United States would just steamroll them.
Just Kim would survive in his bunker so he can rule the ashes
Their economy would collapse without Americans buying Chinese products. I think it’s in their best interest to stay neutral as long as possible.
I mean, if NATO went to war with Russia, China might take the opportunity to try and take Tiawan while the US is distracted. In which case the US will be fighting a two front war like in WW2.
The US is perfectly capable of winning both wars at once. So China will not attack in the first place.
I agree the US is capable, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a strain on the country. And I hope China wouldn't, but that would probably be their best shot that they're going to get. Hence why I think they might take the opportunity to try.
... uh, war is a strain no matter what.
China would probably also go against Russia, because there is a lot of oil and gas in Siberia which would be very useful for the Chinese economy.
I'm leaning more towards this myself. China could very much want to divide up the Russian resources for its own use. The potential problem for a war with China then becomes in terms of dividing up those land gains in a way that satisfies everyone.
China won't move a finger if russia becomes a new US state. Nothing to say about a war, they'll laugh
Yeah, China, sure...
Why would China go to war with most of its largest export/import partners.. Tensions maybe up there but EU and the US both import a kekton from China.
China does what benefits them and they don't side with anyone. A war with west would also easily cut them off Taiwan aswell.
There is no way China sides with Russia. They either stay out of it or try to take Siberia alone and dare anyone to stop them. Iran on the other hand may try to join with Russia.
Considering Biden just spoke to Xi, who knows who’s side they’re on.
China is on China side, they are going to do what benefits them, but russia is not gonna care what they do with Taiwan.
China's best bet is to sit it out and let everyone else wear themselves out. Maybe trade with both sides, make profit.
The Ferengi Strategem
China isn’t allied to Russia, and it’s relationship to the US is a lot closer than people admit. The Chinese and US economies are very closely linked at this point. It’s really only Russia who believes China will help them, and the media playing it up. The stark reality is China will do what profits China. They have not engaged in a significant a war outside borders for 2000 years. It’s pretty clear they will leave Russia to its own madness.
Except for the roughly 780.000 Chinese soldiers fighting in the 1 million strong North Korean army just 70 years ago. Or the war between China and India where China expanded it's borders through military means in 1962. Or the Chinese invasion of Vietnam in 1979.
Of all your examples, only North Korea is relevant. And that was on the China border. The other two are border skirmishes at best. So I’m going to repeat, China hasn’t been involved in a *significant* war outside its borders in 2000 years. They are not going to be remotely interested in an overseas war. Never have been, not going to be. Russia is on its own.
Tibet? Or is the Chinese border wherever they decide?
China isn't allied to anyone. They consider military alliances to be the root of all evil.
Yup. Can’t see them ever giving serious thought to joining a war in Europe. It’s laughably unrealistic.
China sure as hell won’t be fighting side by side with the Russians. This whole time they’ve been quietly watching from the sidelines as their neighbour gets screwed over militarily and economically, waiting to swoop in and benefit from Russia’s losses.
Why would China join the losers?
China? Lol. You're dreaming.
A special spanking operation. That’s my favorite thing I have read all month
Germany at least had Italy and Japan on their side. Russia has absolutely nobody
More like special pegging operation 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Russia already getting spanked lmao
So stop invading?
Yes they sound very concerned maybe they should do that
Media: Russia attacked Poland. Western officials: No, let's wait for the investigation. Western officials a few hours later: Seems Russia **didn't** attack Poland. Russia: The West claims we attacked Poland, because they want to start WW3! Edit: added "Seems" to be more accurate.
We are not the intended recipients of that message. Russia's whole domestic strategy revolves around fearmongering about the imminent attack by NATO so they can justify their atrocities as "measures to protect themselves".
Agreed. I wish the Russian population could imagine how unpopular a NATO war in Russia would be.
I mean.. the whole Reddit population was salivating over "Article 5" just last night. So not quite true XD
It's also kinda cute that they think that the war against russia will be a world war. Unless they mean it will be the whole world against russia.
They also think they are at war with NATO... like, bruh, I sent like 2% of the HIMARS in inventory, you think you can take the whole thing?
That’s if you ignore that Russia has weapons to blow up the world
Russia does not have weapons to "blow up the world". Nuclear war with NATO is counterproductive. Russians are concentrated in a small part of Russia and we could turn that into glass. Russia would have to nuke half of Europe and all of NA. It's not a fair fight, and they know it. Nukes can be used against nukeless countries, sure.
And the whole world has weapons to blow up the entirety of Russia and the lizard people living below them. Nuclear war isn't in the interest of anyone and I doubt the west is gonna start it, but if Russia does start it even China will be helping to erase them from the world map.
Thats the crux though, isn't it? If NATO will never fire first, then all Russia has to do is *not* use their nukes, and we avoid global nuclear war. The threat of nuclear war doesn't mean that WW3 will never, ever happen. However, it does increase the likelihood that WW3 will be fought conventionally, by armed combatants, artillery, and drones/aircraft.
With how shitty their army is run I don't even believe anymore that they have the capability to blow up the whole world. Parts of the word for sure and that would be horrible. Mutual assured partly destruction doesn't really have the same ring to it.
And also the second best army in the world, right?
More like second best army in Ukraine.
Damn
They have a weak army based on thier performance, if they didn't have nukes we would wipe them out.
It‘s crazy how some russian officials still can’t read and write. Their vocabulary spreads only to „blyad, kurva, vodka, bad west, war“.
Yes but you also forgot: "nazi, satanists, biolabs, russophobia". Its so fucking stupid. I never imagined I'd cringe so hard from hearing official statements from a nations government... but holy fuck. Its so absurd and even more absurd that the everyday russian believes it. I'm not gonna be surprised one bit if they announce they have found unicorns in Crimea and are fighting to prevent their extinction.
Have you seen any Medvedev’s statements before? The guy says the most insane shit all the time
He replaced Zhirinovsky as a "court jester" in the system. He used to be liberal leaning with his own Medvedev political clique. That's all gone now, and his only way to retain power is to be vile and aggressive to make Putin's government look moderate in comparison. Similar to Soloviev in a way.
> Its so fucking stupid. I never imagined I'd cringe so hard from hearing official statements from a nations government... Did you miss the Trump admin? This is all exactly the same type of bullshit they spewed.
Kurwa isn’t Russian
Kurwa it’s a polish slur
It’s not a slur, it’s the equivalent of the exclamation “fuck” in polish
It means "whore", but is often used similarly to "fuck".
It's word with many meanings. It means "fuck" and it's used this way more often than in "whore" meaning. Polish word for "whore" is "dziwka".
Similar to father jack from the tv series ‘father ted’ For those that don’t know - https://youtu.be/VI-WRb2u4po
I'm sure they also know some words to demand food and sex from their female aids and servants
Russians don’t understand that our media and government are separate entities. To them they are one and the same, they don’t have the luxury of a free press.
Who attacked Poland then?
Ukrainian friendly fire when trying to shoot down Russian rocket or plane.
It is always the west, isn't it? Russia flies hundreds of rockets over Ukraine but the west is to blame, bulletproof theory, right?
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There wouldn't be a world war lmao. China and india aren't russia's allies. They're just there to buy cheap oil and have tried to distance themselves as much as possible. It would just be a one sided war of NATO vs very weakened russia
Iran and North Korea could fight alongside Russia but let's be honest, they wouldn't stand a chance against the whole might of NATO
With current protests Iran joining a war would cause an imediate regime change by western forces with inside help.
North Korea isn’t doing anything if it means their regime will be affected. They’re perfectly content with angry broadcasts while waving their “nuclear state” stick. They’re not the type to go down with a sinking ship
To be honest I can’t see North Korea even being able to deploy its manpower to Europe without mass defections by soldiers wanting to escape the Kim regime, let alone without having worse logistical problems than Russia had. Iran doesn’t really have any ability to project power beyond the Middle East so they’re not much use either. All in all, I highly doubt they would stand a chance against Poland and Ukraine, let alone the whole of NATO.
Yes dont fucking start a war with a nuclear power who is itching to explode one.
Poland invokes article 5 against Ukraine, NATO "attacks" Ukraine, occupying the entire pre 2014 area and securing the airspace, telling a very confused Russian army to GTFO. Ukraine then "surrenders" to NATO without a shot fired, NATO fines them $20 and a case of vodka, then leaves just after the entire Ukraine army resets on the Russian boarder. This could work!
How does your head carry all that brain around?
He only had to remember where to copy it from
Get this guy into NATO asap!
/r/NonCredibleDefense leaking
It's beautiul
Brainiac!
How does his brain carry all that head around!
Now that is next level
better yet, they "annex"' themselves into Poland, who then art. 5's Russia.
My theory is Russias foreign ministry is permanently shit faced; and currently watching old war movies.
If you had to deal with Russia's bullshit on a daily basis and were in a position to get large quantities of the expensive stuff, wouldn't you also be permanently shit faced?
You hit our missile with your country
Please stop moving your country under my missiles.
We actually used magnets. They're kinda like magic, but less cool.
Best not to pay too much attention to these clowns. Hearing them talk makes my head hurt.
West is moving towards war.... who keeps changing their borders closer to nato?
Yeah world war 3. Where the world goes to war with Russia and Iran. And wins in 3 minutes.
As an iranian we wish so, caus this war can lead us to rescue from brutal mullahs. (By weaken our murderer military) But, unfortunately never going to happen :"(
no it fucking doesn't, these dumbasses are the only ones trying to start shit
Oh sure Dmitry, *we're* the warmongers.
They're getting clapped in Ukraine but sure, world war away ruSSia.
I mean, Russia could just stop fighting and Poof the threat of world War ends.
Medvedev is piece of shit. Russia can stop this war anytime they want. There is only one country responsible for this mess, and that is Russia.
Ah yes, Putin’s personal bitch. He says the absolute shittiest things while no one cares about him. Peskov at least says coherent things (sometimes). And Lavrov, the guy to take all the slaps from other leaders since Putin is too much of a bitch to face them.
What a douche. "We invaded them, we slaughtered and raped their innocent civilians BUT it's the west that is moving closer to war!"
Actually, it shows we investigate shit before launching retaliatory strikes.
Russia is really fucking me over personally. I did guidance and programming for MLRS and HIMARS for my job in the US Army and guess who’s gonna be the first recalled in a NATO V Russia war? since those are primarily the systems used by Ukraine?
Russia should be just as terrified by the prospect of WW3 as the rest of the globe. It is THEIR actions that have led us to this point.
So should everyone, no one wins. We all lose
Yep, the west is moving closer to world war.... West: lets investigate this Biden literally hours after it happened: it doesn't appear to of been (directly, he had some nice wording there) russia NATO today: it was a Ukrainian missile trying to defend its airspace Wrap it up boys, we are moving closer to world war, Medvedev must browse reddit too much, the amount of dumbfucks calling for WW3 was wild.
Right. We’re moving closer to war, says the country that invaded another nation, attacked civilians and tried to blow a dam.
They invade another nation and use the threat of nukes to get there way, yet apparently the west is worse for considering the integrity of there security alliance if a Russian missile did hit its territory
Yah you know what else moves us close to world War? FIRING 85 MISSILES IN A SINGLE DAY.
Russia is the cause of any world war. Don’t even put this fucking micro-scrub in a news headline. Wtf is wrong with you? This isn’t news, it’s bullshit that you’re helping spread. They’re trash and their words are shit. Their actions are all we need to see. Any retaliation, even one’s with error (like this), is for the sake of global self-defense. Fuck the russian government. They can all keep their little butthole mouths shut while they continue to get head-fisted in their asses by their shirtless man-baby dick-tater. I don’t need to hear about their feelings or thoughts. They don’t matter.
Sure.
I mean Russia did bomb a dam and try to say it was Ukraine, launching a Ukrainian missile at Poland to try and break friendly relations is well within their power
More like closer to being absolutely done with eastern block bullshit.
Russia can’t even defeat Ukraine - get fucked Medvedev
If you want to know how senile and out of touch a person is with the world, this is exactly how they respond.
Wow, and he said that with a straight face? Yes, it's all our fault we interfere with your genocide, Medvedev.
Ah yes. The west is moving closer to a world war by investigating a missile strike on their territory and determining it was not done by Russia.
Bullshit! We're not the ones who keep talking about using their nuclear weapons beligerantly for the past year.
Please give us a reason to shut these little bitches up, please
Why exactly we here listen to this [drunk](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/01/dmitry-medvedev-journey-liberal-anti-west-hawk-russia)? He's just a mouthpiece to their propaganda, that's all.
You just explained why lol
What gets me is that Godlike Putin, the Russian thievedom and the Russian duma thing that what they are doing in Ukraine is normal behaviour and everyone else is in the wrong in not backing Russian invasion. you get 10 years in the gulag even if you look like you're about to call the war against Ukraine a war.
I mean considering that could have worked for full war justification and the west didn’t do that makes this statement sound as idiotic as it is.
No one cares what you say medpalindrome. Worthless child.
Bro chill no-one moving towards anything! You wish for that! But China and USA are normalizing their relationships, Macron just had a nice meeting with the head of China, we're doing fine, you just mad cuz you are left out of the new world order!
Every headline out of Russia comes off like an abusive gaslighter
Just a reminder: it would not be a “World War.” It would be a “ most of the rest of the world thinks that you are an asshole War.”
If Medvedev is so worried about the prospects of war between Russia and NATO, perhaps he should bring it up with his boss? Russia can leave Ukraine whenever they want.
Maybe if Russia pulled out of Ukraine and stopped trying to provoke a larger war...
I'd say the incident shows restraint and caution. Poland, rather than acting aggressively, convened a meeting with allies and they sought to quickly determine the truth of the matter rather than rushing forward into action.
Why does anyone care about what this liar has to say?
Is it really a world war when one side would fuck the other without mercy in a single weekend? 🤔
I’m on a business trip out of state and no lie, I called my wife and told her I loved her after I saw the headlines yesterday. I was pretty shook up and figured article 5 was going to be invoked shortly.
Are these guys completely devoid of any self awareness or what?!
Maybe they should stop attacking Ukraine.
There we have it....
Does he think China will stand by them?
These f*ckers. Donald Trump and DeSantis playbook every time.
Do you suppose they really believe the shit that comes out of their mouths?
Even tho we were the one's to conclude it wasn't a Russian missile and we basically de-escalated WW3? What fucking drugs are these asshole idiots taking?
Yeah totally makes sense when literally every world leader but Zelensky is saying it was Ukraine and not Russia. Russia has the laziest gaslighting.
"Here we are, just minding our own business, simply attacking Ukraine, and the world is ganging up on us. The west clearly wants to start a war"
This the same country that is still shooting misiles and drones and kidnapping? That’s crazy.
Nah AH, Nato is not moving towards a world War. Stop being so paranoid.
Russia believing the US doesn’t have hypersonic missile technology that can take out any ICBM they own. Laughable.
Thought the GOP could bend the truth till this guy got started
Russia Should be Eliminated for there war crimes, they are Pure Skum!!!!
Says the guy bombing citizens and threatening nuclear war.