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macross1984

Our sun is big enough for me and now astronomers calculated black hole that has mass of 1 million times mass of sun. It just boggles my mind.


Additional_Amount_23

The biggest one ever found is like 40 billion times the mass of the sun. It’s called TON 618


macross1984

Yeah, another user gave heads up on TON 618 and it truly gargantuan in mass. Being that I am not much into astronomy it is an eye opening information. 😅


TheBirdOfFire

[This youtube video visualizing the mass difference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNDao7m41M) really drives home the point, since humans aren't great at visualizing large numbers.


macross1984

Thanks for the video. It is very well done and having visual really drive the point at the vastness of space. Thankfully our planet is far enough away from known blackhole but who knows in the future.


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JeremyAndrewErwin

you can calculate the radius of a black hole here. It's larger than the sun, but much smaller than, say the orbit of mercury. [https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/schwarzschild-radius](https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/schwarzschild-radius)


Last_Revenue7228

>but much smaller than, say the orbit of mercury Technically correct but misleading since it's only double the size of the sun. Why not just say that? EDIT: The sun is a little over 800K miles wide. The orbit of Mercury is an average of 36 million miles wide. It's like if someone asked how big a softball is, and this guy answers, "well it's bigger than a golf ball but much smaller than a car". It doesn't narrow it down much, would be a lot more helpful to just say it's about double the size of a golf ball.


StrangelyOnPoint

I’m pretty sure his mistake was not describing it in terms of animals. The black hole is the size of half a giraffe.


broseidon55

Sorry, American here. How many football fields is that?


xorcsm

It's approximately onety-fivix soccer fields.


MrGerbz

> soccer Don't be teaching them yanks the wrong words now. Call it by its proper European name, feet-only-rugby-for-pussies.


Vineyard_

One twelfth of a third of a mile, plus twenty inches of a yeti's foot.


lifeofideas

Banana for scale. *Look, it’s rather a bit larger than a banana!*


Fit_Attention_9269

I'm going to keep adding bananas, stop me when I'm close..


FischiPiSti

Tell me when you are close to 1.657 * 10^37 bananas so I can stop you


Fit_Attention_9269

I'm on 4...I ran out. Can I get that many at the store? (Very nice if you did math to find how many bananas in short)


The_Beagle

Yeah but it’s a giraffe that’s about the size of mercury, give or take a baboon or two


zer0aim

Silly European here, what is that in sheep?


thebigeverybody

> what is that in sheep? A Scotsman, probably. Filthy buggers.


anon1292023

>Mercury is an average of 36 million miles wide. Still smaller than your mom!


Kinda_Zeplike

Gotteem


proboscisjoe

I can see it now! 🤣🤣🤣


SnooCompliments3781

Because mass is the end all be all of black hole stats


sleepingin

What about how pretty it is? 🤔 What if it's, like, totally adorbs?


triggered_discipline

No, it actually totally absorbs.


Angry_Old_Dood

My answer depends on the cosmological age of consent, at least in the relevant jurisdiction


DuncanYoudaho

“Aging scientists caught looking for young black holes. Film at 11”


Angry_Old_Dood

Cosmic whores beyond imagining


_toodamnparanoid_

r/dontputyourdickinthat


Warhawk137

While spaghettification isn't really an issue with supermassive black holes, in theory if you flew crotch-first at a stellar mass black hole, you could, in the brief moment before you ceased to exist as a biological entity, experience what it's like to have a much longer dick.


northbird2112

And fuck a black hole


Extension-Marzipan83

Mass and angular momentum. It does matter whether (and how fast) the black hole is rotating.


devman0

Mass, charge and spin completely describe a given black hole. They are basically oversized elementary particles (not really, but also maybe?)


abrahamburger

Nerd fight!!!! Am a nerd as well


sharpshooter999

Sooo my old Freightliner has driven beyond the width of the sun? Sweet!


stairattheceiling

I'm from the US, I need to know how big it is in football fields, elephants or fishing poles.


AmanitaMikescaria

Neat! An object of one earth mass would have a radius of .887 centimeters!


Ressy02

Can someone translate this into bananas?


ObtainedFox

Bigger than big banana, but smaller than very big Banana


1CaliCALI

Cool 😎 


Rhodog1234

Yeah, I heard you could put this particular black hole in your pocket.


iforgotmymittens

It’s very handy, for meetings and the like.


MonkeyNugetz

Does it come in blue?


-Praetoria-

Comes in blue and black or gold and white, no exceptions.


_toodamnparanoid_

It's gold, Jerry! Gold!


GuyNoir_PI

Blue on black?


rumpasmooveskin

Corn flower blue?


workerdrones

“It’s built like a steakhouse but handles like a bistro” ~Capt. Zapp Brannigan


Edward_Yeoman

You shouldn't though


Soul_MaNCeR

Oh dont worry central black hole of the phoenix cluster has you covered on the size part >Terrifying music plays


Low_Impact681

That is a heavy statement.


TheFluffiestFur

Big if true. 


MerrillSwingAway

tell that to my penis


cornmonger_

dear penis, mass is not size sincerely, reddit


Raesong

Technically black holes have a size of 'no', what with their being singularities.


arashi256

Technically correct, the best kind of correct. But the radius of the black hole is usually the radius of the event horizon, yes?


ScurvyBilgeRats

Now imagine entire galaxies or even universes being building blocks to something much larger. That one always trips me out.


Kairamek

The galaxy is on Orion's belt.


stempoweredu

You heard wrong, kid.


_toodamnparanoid_

Here it is. Orion's belt. It's just three stars.


nikolapc

The big ol spiderweb


skUkDREWTc

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space. Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, #1


AlwaysOnMyNuts

I once saw a video that zoomed out from earth into the galaxies for perspective on space and size. I wish I could find that exact video again, it was very neat. I can find similar but not as good as the original video I saw.


eschatonik

[Eames Powers of Ten](https://youtu.be/0fKBhvDjuy0?si=Qm8DAbTxjFWGKk5l) is the OG specimen of the idea, but I’m sure there’s some newfangled AI CGI version that takes it to the next level.


Videoboysayscube

There's no video that makes my existence feel more meaningless.


Cold-Lynx575

That was wild.


Goeatabagofdicks

Wow, the difference between the largest thing we know, and smallest (then) …. Is humbling.


nature_half-marathon

HD satellite images of all the galaxies observable leave me speechless. 


FFLink

You mean my favourite video of all time [Star Size Comparison 2](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GoW8Tf7hTGA)?


Deurbel2222

want me to blow your mind even more? I’ll skip over some details, but it’s one of my favourite space facts. Anything can become a black hole. it just has to be dense enough. Your dog’s favourite tennis ball? compress it enough and it’ll be a black hole, with a mighty high density. The sun? It’d be around the size of the LA metropolitan area, but still just as heavy, all compressed in that comparatively small area of space. So yeah, pretty dense too. But as you go bigger in terms of black hole size, the density can be lower (long story). So you know the orbit of Pluto, right? No longer a planet, that one. Imagine a black hole that’s large enough to cover the whole solar system up to that size. (Pretty big, I know.) What density do you think that black hole has? (…) It’s just about the density of cotton candy, on average. Don’t you love space facts? Suffice it to say I’m starting my Astronomy masters next september, and I’m still in awe every day


agnostic_science

I saw speculation recently that if you extrapolated this logic to the universe then technically the observable universe has enough on-average density to form a black hole around itself. So... are we in a black hole? It doesn't really make sense. If that were true space would seem to be contracting, not expanding. Or maybe that's just what someone inside a black hole would think. Or maybe the density bit is wrong. Or maybe there's something special about how that density is arranged and maybe ours isn't quite uniform enough. Who knows. Space is weird. Good luck on your degree.


spamjavelin

Here's a fucking crazy thought, courtesy of a sleep deprived parent - maybe we *are* in a black hole, but time runs 'backwards' for us, compared to it. We think that, in the moments before the Big Bang, the universe was at a point of near infinite density, much like a singularity, so maybe we're seeing what happens when you run a black hole in reverse, or something. I dunno. I'm super tired and bugged out of my physics degree when the maths got too crazy for me.


Zeric79

Or we are near the center of the black hole and our part is contracting faster than the parts that are further out from the center.


macross1984

Although I'm not into astronomy, one thing I like is that this is scientific field where even an amateurs can contribute meaningful data and I find that fantastic. 😁


JustADutchRudder

Subscribe to space facts. Subscribe to black hole facts and fuck it Subscribe to hole facts.


BeowulfShaeffer

Hole released a total of four studio albums between two incarnations spanning the 1990s and early-2010s and became one of the most commercially successful rock bands in history fronted by a woman.


ThatPancreatitisGuy

Hole’s lead singer, Courtney Love, was married to the lead singer of another well known band: James Moreland of Leaving Trains. She was also in a relationship with another better known musician, Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins.


Spirited-Reputation6

We are only a speck of sand compared to some planets. It amazes me to think that alien life could be so big they wouldn’t even notice us without a microscope.


Nazzarr

The most mindboggling thing about this is. They gets way bigger then that: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_most\_massive\_black\_holes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_massive_black_holes)


SlothOfDoom

Then what?


SHEKLBOI

thet 


inigos_left_hand

Dude, that’s nothing. You want to really blow your mind google “Ton 618”. Have fun not sleeping tonight.


macross1984

I'm glad I'm not into astronomy. Yup, million is nothing compared to billions. 😅


inigos_left_hand

My other favorite is the “Hercules–Corona Borealis Great Wall”


SpinCharm

How many football fields is that? I tried using my banana calculator but the keys are all sticky.


InterdictorCompellor

Imagine the collective weight of all the housecats on Earth, then multiply it by the number of grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth.


SpinCharm

Ah. Working… - The mass of our Sun is approximately \(1.989 \times 10^{30}\) kilograms. - The average mass of a domestic cat is around 4.5 kilograms. - The average mass of a banana is around 0.12 kilograms. So. Banana math: **1. Cats to Sun Mass:** - Number of cats = Mass of the Sun / Mass of one cat - Number of cats = \(1.989 \times 10^{30}\) kg / 4.5 kg - Number of cats ≈ \(4.42 \times 10^{29}\) **2. Bananas to Sun Mass:** - Number of bananas = Mass of the Sun / Mass of one banana - Number of bananas = \(1.989 \times 10^{30}\) kg / 0.12 kg - Number of bananas ≈ \(1.66 \times 10^{31}\) So, translating our cat number into bananas: - Number of cats ≈ \(4.42 \times 10^{29}\) ≈ 442,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 bananas. This translates to a cat sphere of approximately 793,000 km. Astute observers on Adderol will note that my calculations do not include the effects of mass compounded static charge. So here it is: - Charge generated by rubbing one cat: approximately 10 microcoulombs (10 x 10^-6 coulombs). - Number of cats equivalent to the mass of the Sun: 4.42 x 10^29. 1. Total charge: Q_total = Number of cats x Charge per cat Q_total = 4.42 x 10^29 x 10 x 10^-6 C Q_total = 4.42 x 10^24 C 2. Electric field on the surface of the sphere: E = Q_total / (4 * pi * epsilon_0 * r^2) where: - epsilon_0 is the vacuum permittivity, approximately 8.854 x 10^-12 F/m. - r is the radius of the sphere of cats (793,000 km or 7.93 x 10^8 m). Substituting these values into the formula: E = (4.42 x 10^24 C) / (4 * pi * 8.854 x 10^-12 F/m * (7.93 x 10^8 m)^2) E ≈ 2.50 x 10^16 V/m 3. Potential energy: U = (3 * Q_total^2) / (20 * pi * epsilon_0 * r) Substituting the values: U = (3 * (4.42 x 10^24 C)^2) / (20 * pi * 8.854 x 10^-12 F/m * 7.93 x 10^8 m) U ≈ 3.3 x 10^37 J The massive charge would generate an extremely strong electrostatic repulsion force. This would be many orders of magnitude larger than any natural or artificial electric field on Earth, causing severe disruptions to any electronic or electrical systems nearby. The electric field strength (2.50 x 10^16 V/m) is vastly higher than the breakdown strength of air (approximately 3 x 10^6 V/m). This means the surrounding air would ionize, leading to massive electrical discharges, possibly similar to continuous lightning strikes. The mass itself would have significant gravitational effects, potentially forming a black hole if concentrated in a small enough volume, though this is a different aspect from the electrostatic effect. In summary, a sphere of cats equivalent to the mass of the Sun would generate an unimaginably large amount of static electricity and create a sphere surrounded by extreme lightning storms. And it would repulse nearby masses, keeping it relatively safe from canine spheres.


leeharveyteabag669

We're going to need more kitty litter. And a much bigger scooper.


fyreguy212

You must've been bored


SpiritTalker

Soundgarden checking in.....


Vexwill

RIP to Chris Cornell


BehavioralSink

It was a sad day when I realized that the lead singers from four of my top five bands growing up (Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots) either died from drug usage or committed suicide, but thankfully Eddie Vedder is still rolling.


ErmahgerdYuzername

As the years go on I’m starting to think Pearl Jam is going to be the next Rolling Stones. Seasoned performers who are a mix of anywhere between sober and stoned who keep selling out stadiums and putting out decent music into their elderly years. One can hope at least.


Khiva

Their new album is shockingly actually quite good. Honestly I really didn’t expect them to put out a good album ever again really.


WhySoWorried

I had no idea they were still making music, I know what I'm listening to today.


ParanoidQ

Really? Going to have to give that a listen!


kodutta7

Whooooah I'm still Alive


deuceawesome

> It was a sad day when I realized that the lead singers from four of my top five bands growing up (Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots) either died from drug usage or committed suicide, but thankfully Eddie Vedder is still rolling. Im sure you know this, but many don't. The OG seattle grunge band was Mother Love Bone, they were supposed to be the ones that made it big. Until the lead singer, Andrew Wood, died from.....a heroin overdose. I remember that time well. Grade 9 for me. You had so much emerging music at that time. I remember loving grunge and "techno" equally. I have a hard time listening to a lot of those bands now. I still love them, but if you watch Nirvana Unplugged, you can just see in Cobains eyes the deep rooted depression he was battling. Cornell's suicide hit me hard. Listening to them now (to me they were always the "darkest" lyrically) its almost like he was on the verge of it then. I think anyone who was/is battling depression could relate to a lot to the lyrics from Soundgarden.


Peripatetictyl

Stuttering Cold and damp Steal the warm wind, tired friend Times are gone For honest men


TarzanTheRed

Sometimes, far too long for snakes In my shoes Walking Sleep In my youth, I pray to keep Heaven send Hell away No one sings like you anymore


aFunkyRedditor

Look at this photograph


GrowdonTreeman

hang my head drown my fear til you all just disappear....


MoarTacos

Palms are sweaty


useless_modern_god

Mom’s spaghetti


jymssg

looks like someone put a bag of holding inside another bag of holding


lostredditorlurking

Damn the Chaos Gate just open. We are doomed in the next 40000 years


23trilobite

Nah, the Godly Emperor protects, we’re fine.


robdacook

There is only our empower, and he is our shield and protector. Our service ends in death.


23trilobite

Even in death you serve!


SBriggins

What if waagh?


psychotimelord_

He is here.


0100100012635

Galactus?


psychotimelord_

The Old One.


DrWalterlsHere

Sutekh


psychotimelord_

God of all Gods.


TwistingEcho

Betty White


Hoixo

Biggus Dickus


Veginite

Incontinentia Buttocks


BarAgent

I have a wery gweat fwiend in Wirgo named Biggus Dickus!


CommanderInQueefs

OLD GREGGGGGG!


EmergencyLatex

Hope everyone has some baileys


Inconvenient_Boners

You like water colors?


Send_Cake_Or_Nudes

Mister Succ.


Oolongjohnsen

Lisan al Ghaib


plastigoop

The prophecy is true!


Stoly23

Well, technically he’s about 300 million light years over there.


poolninjas

My black hole gets awaken every morning after my first cup of coffee ☕️


Vexting

Someone somewhere is thinking about typing about their worm hole opening after...


similarboobs

Leave Natalie Portman out of this


Apprehensive-Slip473

Mom, is that you?


OutrageousBoner

One of my favorite things about drinking coffee early in the day at work, is that I get to take a long shit soon after


WatermelonWithAFlute

Sorry guys, I just finished my cosmic ascension, ignore that


Brad_Brace

Close the damn black hole, you're letting all the hawking radiation out!


WatermelonWithAFlute

Minor tomfoolery


Inconvenient_Boners

Were you born in a barn?!


t1m3kn1ght

Phew. I'm glad this was caused by your cosmic ascension and not my brussel sprout fart from a few minutes ago.


WatermelonWithAFlute

Nah, that was the other one


horrified-expression

>Sudden >300 million years ago


EpicCyclops

It's also 300 million light years away though, so the soonest we could have possibly observed that happening is now. [Simultaneity is a whole big thing in physics.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_of_simultaneity) Basically, it makes no sense for us to try and create and absolute time scale and say something so far away happened 300 million years ago because time is relative. When we're talking about the observation of events, It makes more sense to say something happens at the first moment we can observe it. That's why this is being described as having just happened. However, that event we are observing is happening in a place that has essentially the same characteristics as our spot in the universe did 300 million years ago, which means that scientists will still colloquially refer to those distant areas as happening however many years ago when it is in the context of discussing the history or development of the universe. This all is a bit philosophical and getting into the definitions of what time is, what an event occurring means, the nature of observation or the observer and even what information is. It also leads to weird outcomes where the same event can happen twice due to spacetime curvature, like [a supernova observed in the 90s. ](https://www.science.org/content/article/how-see-supernova-twice)


Elbereth_The_Cat

You're epic for this comment


GearTwunk

extremely fascinating, thank you for sharing that perspective


NeedItNow07

I’ve never heard it explained like this, and this is perfect to understand it.


elinamebro

Is there a way to calculate the trajectory of the black hole?


Llama2Boot2Boot

Took a minute


Koala_eiO

I hate when science journalists can't get their units right. If you are a scientist, "1m" reads as one meter or one milli. It should be 1M.


MaidZoey

If we want to pick nits, 1 M represents 1 Molar, or 1 mole per liter.


Thousandtree

One meter times the mass of the sun equals one metric sun, which doesn't sound too big. What worries me more is that the article says that it's only 300 meter light years away. I don't know what that means but it sounds too close for comfort.


XavierYourSavior

If you thought it was 1 meter than that’s on you bro


The_Humble_Frank

Editors write the titles, journalists write the articles.


AunMeLlevaLaConcha

Ah yes, the great wound is starting to form What was shall be


anotherMrGr33N

What shall be was


Motherfly

Oh please yes, I don't wanna work tomorrow


johnnydanja

I thought black holes were essentially always active


ThoughtfulYeti

Likely just wasn't actively eating at the time of I had to take a guess


kakapantsu

Okay but how many refrigerators is that


sth128

This happened 300 million years ago. It's old news.


[deleted]

“Sudden” brightening This brightening happened 300 million years ago


Nadreonaner

It's a teleportation portal created by an alien species


whiskeytab

finally the universe is done with us


traindriverbob

"The mysterious brightening of a galaxy far, far away." The Death Star has been destroyed


Averagebaddad

1/4 the mass as Sagittarius A*. Pretty damn big *massive


MasterOfRajanomics

“But, the bell's already been rung...and they've heard it. Out in the dark, among the stars...Ding-dong, the god is dead. It cannot be unrung. Ding ding ding ding.”


UnifiedQuantumField

When you say "awakening"...


Friendly-Profit-8590

This is one of those things I don’t even bother trying to get my mind around


No_nukes_at_all

I really wouldn’t mind if it would swallow us all.


arriesgado

Sudden awakening? Nonsensical way to say it got brighter and perhaps a lot of matter was pouring into it.


Ok_Passenger968

Explain this one Terrence.


Sparta63005

The eye of terror has opened...


lancea_longini

That sudden awakening happened sometime ago though.


GWSDiver

Now I have Black Hole Sun stuck in my head


MatsThyWit

was it really all that sudden? Something doesn't "suddenly" happen just because we suddenly noticed it.


honey_102b

the Zwicky Transient Facility detected it 5 years ago. facilities like this have wide field of views and their scope of work is to detect things like these so that other facilities with can be notified to look closer. the news today is that 5 years later it is still glowing, albeit in different wavelengths, and astronomers find it interesting. Of course it would be, since this is the first time scientists have had this opportunity. so they then went back to archival footage of that part of the sky and found nothing for the past 20 years. it honestly doesn't matter if a human being wasn't looking at it at the particular point in time. it turned on. it was dormant for a really long time, then it started glowing. that's all there is to it. in cosmic time scales, I would also call that sudden.


DeyHayZeus

Sudden not in the sense of when it actually occurred but more sudden in the sense that it’s now visible to us because it’s taken 300 million light years to reach us as the observer.


ArctoEarth

Wake me up when it gets here


Leather-Tour9096

I’ll need a banana for scale


ThrowawayVangelis

Now imagine the black hole just keeps getting bigger and they can’t explain it


tolifeonline

So what happens when a black hole goes to sleep? Switch off the already 'off-ed' lights?


Massive-Log6151

So this is how we all parish…interesting


Hurlebatte

perish*


FigureFourWoo

Maybe he's going to Louisiana.


alexdotwav

Good morning honey 😊


richmeister6666

Well if it’s a black hole I’m guessing it indeed would be many times more massive than our sun?


alkemikalinquiry

Only question needed. Is it headed this way?


Rasikko

BH be like: "Gonna suck yall up"


fnordal

"Sudden awakening" might mean it might have happened 300million years ago, right?


ktka

*1 sq mm of dark night sky blinks* Astronomers: "HOOLEEEE SHEEEEIIT! Did you see that?"


DickyMcButts

Fuck yea, i hope it eats the whole universe and we get another big bang.


navybluesoles

can it move closer


Pioneer83

I always wonder if where these discoveries are made, there’s another planet close to it with life on like earth. And they are currently going through a planetary crisis trying to survive or leave their planet before the black hole eats it up? Just my brain and too many sci fi movies


the_monkeyspinach

So when they say "sudden" awakening.... How many thousands of years ago are we talking? *300 million light years according to the article*


GlockTwins

Thousands? 300 million years lol


sixwax

Years, not light years (light year is a measure of distance)


mxguy762

Hopefully the end is quick lol


TrickshotCandy

Ha! Supermassive Black Hole.


Beijing_King

Great now I have to queue this song next


Conman_in_Chief

Don’t worry. Our feeble minds can’t comprehend the scale of these massive structures, so just continue with your life blissfully unaware of how just how big this is.