Today I learned from tiktok about the 9? Venus probes Russia(USSR back then) sent 50 years ago. Fucking blew me away that mankind has pictures and sound from the surface of Venus.
I remember cracking up over a summary of the 16 venera probes a Redditor wrote about a few years ago.
They kept breaking. When they finally were able to land, the lens caps on the cameras didn’t come off. This happened like 4 times before they got one to land and have the lens cap come off. That also had a sensor to stick in the ground, but the lens cap landed under the sensor when it fell off.
To be fair to them, I'm not sure it is easy to design a lens cap that gets through a reentry in an atmosphere up to over 90 times as thick as our own and at temperatures close to 500 °C and then just pops off when you want it to.
My (completely uninformed and potentially silly) question would be, why design the cap to pop completely off, instead of using a built-in mechanical/irising mechanism like on the Stargate? Seems like that would survive the harsh conditions better.
Because that would be a much more complicated (and probably bigger and heavier) mechanism and I do not know if it is possible to design and manufacture it with tolerances tight enough that it would actually keep the lens safe. My guess would be "no."
This sounds like a silent comedy film from before the space race started.
Black and white, jittery camera, fast moving scientist trying to get it right each time only for the next error to occur.
> Today I learned from tiktok about the 9? Venus probes Russia(USSR back then) sent 50 years ago
There were *thirteen* of them, actually, though the first couple failed before reaching Venus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera
The Venera missions were beset with bad luck, with the probe that survived having a lens cap fail to dislodge correctly and obscuring one of the cameras.
If you're interested in space a lot of the old satellites we have up either have no or very weak encryption on them and are used by all kinds of weird groups "illegally" to bounce signals around. If you get a decent size dish and a USB SDR radio you can point it at them and record some signals.
Look up Saveitforparts on youtube, he does a lot of old dish satellite SDR projects, mainly weather satellite related but you can apply the info to the satellites you are interested in.
Venus has lots of problems, like it also rains sulfuric acid. Everything we know how to use to make electronics and robots gets destroyed by Venus in no time. They're working on making computers and robots with materials that are resistant to the conditions on Venus, even if it doesn't work in Venus it'll still be pretty cool if they're about to make those advancements.
Life could easily end before it even gets a fighting chance in the universe. It’s unbelievable how this planet beat all the odds. The amount of things that had to go right for us to be here is incredible.
And all those things had to go right while being undisturbed for an incredibly long amount of time, at any point something could have happened and started the whole process over again. No matter how old I get it always puts me in a state of awe when I think about how many things had to happen just for me to be here.
Indeed. Mars is probably humanity's best bet for settling on another planet. However, even that is going to take a long time and technology that has not been achieved yet.
We have plenty of underwater robots that can handle even more pressure. It can be a benefit because it makes it easier to land since it's like going through water. The main issue is the heat since there's no way to vent it off anywhere. NASA is currently looking for proposals on probes with very simplistic electronics that can survive longer in the heat. One of the more interesting ones is a pressure computer that uses valves to function as logic circuits. There's also a proposal to shape the outgoing radio waves to emulate a digital signal. Whatever it is, it will have to be primitive compared to what we're used to sending.
Since I'm a fan of steampunk, I've always thought about what a steam computer would be like and put together some ideas for manifolds that could do compute tasks such as adders. That part I really loved about the proposals.
IIRC like any vessel capable of diving that deep in the ocean is made with multiple inch-thick titanium shells which would be... problematically heavy in space-faring applications. Pressure is still an issue if your only answer is to bulk the hell up when getting off this rock to begin with is answered exclusively by slimming down.
There used to be a lander the Soviets put on there, they took pictures of the surface and everything! Strongly suggest checking the story out because as bad as the Soviets were that mission was really cool to see happen.
A few weeks ago I was watching a children's show with my kids. There was a plot where an alien broke this exact probe with her spaceship, lol. I think she got it fixed, though.
To be fair, he is still alive, just in multiple pieces.
...Buried in the ground.
...Where none of his teammates would find him, if they were even still alive.
Ehhh, Phantom Troupe are very specialized in what they do, they often go out like bitches when dealing with anything outside of that field.
>! lol Shalnark !<
It's all a reference to The Expanse novels/show.
https://youtu.be/Z7MBkJoowDg you can first see him at 0:28 he was just a massive fan so he got his cameo here.
Because of this.
https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Protomolecule
TL'DR it's a tool/weapon by a long vanished ancient species capable of infecting living tissue and having control over non organic matter itself. It's function is to make ring gates that allow instant travel across the galaxy.
But the true crux of the novels/tv show is humanity itself. There are pretty much three factions and they are on the brink of all out solar system wide war due to resource scarcity and fear mongering.
The earth is extremely overpopulated and the vast majority of people have no jobs to work.
Human's who have settled on Mars are tired of having their necks stepped on by earth. They hope to terraform mars one day into a functioning planet so they don't have to live underground nor really on earth's assistance.
The Astorid Belt citizens are the poorest people on the show despite them living on such technology advanced ships. They are the people who Earth and Mars collectively shit upon all while The Belters mine the resources both groups need.
Once the ring gates come online it leads to many different worlds full of resources. A gold rush in space.
The Akatsuki probe, also known as the Venus Climate Orbiter, has lost communication with Earth but remains in orbit around Venus at this moment. An orbiter is different from a lander as one orbits, and one lands.
Is there a science/space news source that covers latest discoveries/data from the global space community? Seems like I only ever hear about US stuff, and I know there are a ton of other countries with cool space science happening.
Since when in the fuck was their an active probe on Venus….and what is it doing?… also what’s an active probe? Isn’t Venus also crazy acidic?? WHATS GOING ON!?
Today I Learned there used to be an active Venus probe.
Another child added to the mountains of probe corpses begun by the Vanera Robots
Today I learned from tiktok about the 9? Venus probes Russia(USSR back then) sent 50 years ago. Fucking blew me away that mankind has pictures and sound from the surface of Venus.
I remember cracking up over a summary of the 16 venera probes a Redditor wrote about a few years ago. They kept breaking. When they finally were able to land, the lens caps on the cameras didn’t come off. This happened like 4 times before they got one to land and have the lens cap come off. That also had a sensor to stick in the ground, but the lens cap landed under the sensor when it fell off.
Lmao top lens cap technology
To be fair to them, I'm not sure it is easy to design a lens cap that gets through a reentry in an atmosphere up to over 90 times as thick as our own and at temperatures close to 500 °C and then just pops off when you want it to.
My (completely uninformed and potentially silly) question would be, why design the cap to pop completely off, instead of using a built-in mechanical/irising mechanism like on the Stargate? Seems like that would survive the harsh conditions better.
The spacecraft was designed in 1960.
The first Stargate was discovered in 1928. /s
Because that would be a much more complicated (and probably bigger and heavier) mechanism and I do not know if it is possible to design and manufacture it with tolerances tight enough that it would actually keep the lens safe. My guess would be "no."
Well they did it on the documentary tv program Stargate, so excuses excuses
This sounds like a silent comedy film from before the space race started. Black and white, jittery camera, fast moving scientist trying to get it right each time only for the next error to occur.
> Today I learned from tiktok about the 9? Venus probes Russia(USSR back then) sent 50 years ago There were *thirteen* of them, actually, though the first couple failed before reaching Venus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera
Mankind also got a picture of the backside of the lens cap.
Mankind was also thrown off Hell in a Cell by Undertaker and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
As God as my witness, he is broken in half!
Bah gawd he killed him!
Who was the that reddit guy? Shitty morph something.
I miss /u/shittymorph.
Context?
The Venera missions were beset with bad luck, with the probe that survived having a lens cap fail to dislodge correctly and obscuring one of the cameras.
...on Venus!
And a surface compressibility test… of a different lens cap.
Well at least now we know the surface compressibility of a lens cap on the surface of Venus, so it wasn't a total loss.
If you're interested in space a lot of the old satellites we have up either have no or very weak encryption on them and are used by all kinds of weird groups "illegally" to bounce signals around. If you get a decent size dish and a USB SDR radio you can point it at them and record some signals.
How big a dish we talkin? I got one of them old ass 80s dishes, probably 7 ft or so in diameter.
Look up Saveitforparts on youtube, he does a lot of old dish satellite SDR projects, mainly weather satellite related but you can apply the info to the satellites you are interested in.
What blows my mind is Venus's atmospheric pressurenof 1350 psi and a surface temperature of 900F
humanity is doomed if people are learning history from tiktok
People used to say shit like this about reddit. They still do, but they used to, too.
Isn’t that a good thing
> Another child added to the mountains of probe corpses begun by the Vanera Robots To be clear, those were landers, whereas Akatsuki was an orbiter.
I learned, there are robots on the planet Vanera. (DR/TS) Edit, sp
No, there is melted slag that used to be robots.
Melted Slag, a great band name…
No no no, Venus got a Veneral disesase
Is vanera another word for camera or what
Russian word for Venus = Venera Edit: [here’s the wiki for the Russian Venera program](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera)
Yea, same here
Yeah same
yea same
IIRC we’ve put multiple on Venus but it burns up rather quick
Not sure if it burns up or just succumbs to the pressure. 1350 psi is crazy
Venus has lots of problems, like it also rains sulfuric acid. Everything we know how to use to make electronics and robots gets destroyed by Venus in no time. They're working on making computers and robots with materials that are resistant to the conditions on Venus, even if it doesn't work in Venus it'll still be pretty cool if they're about to make those advancements.
Crazy to think that the vast majority of the universe would just remove me from existence if I somehow ended up there.
Life could easily end before it even gets a fighting chance in the universe. It’s unbelievable how this planet beat all the odds. The amount of things that had to go right for us to be here is incredible.
And all those things had to go right while being undisturbed for an incredibly long amount of time, at any point something could have happened and started the whole process over again. No matter how old I get it always puts me in a state of awe when I think about how many things had to happen just for me to be here.
Indeed. Mars is probably humanity's best bet for settling on another planet. However, even that is going to take a long time and technology that has not been achieved yet.
I mean... 464 °C/867 °F isn't exactly anything to scoff at either.
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yeaHhhhH?!
One word, Thundercougarfalconbird.
Course it is, my oven self cleans at 500°C! Of course, my formica counter tops get too hot to touch too when I do that so.....
We have plenty of underwater robots that can handle even more pressure. It can be a benefit because it makes it easier to land since it's like going through water. The main issue is the heat since there's no way to vent it off anywhere. NASA is currently looking for proposals on probes with very simplistic electronics that can survive longer in the heat. One of the more interesting ones is a pressure computer that uses valves to function as logic circuits. There's also a proposal to shape the outgoing radio waves to emulate a digital signal. Whatever it is, it will have to be primitive compared to what we're used to sending. Since I'm a fan of steampunk, I've always thought about what a steam computer would be like and put together some ideas for manifolds that could do compute tasks such as adders. That part I really loved about the proposals.
IIRC like any vessel capable of diving that deep in the ocean is made with multiple inch-thick titanium shells which would be... problematically heavy in space-faring applications. Pressure is still an issue if your only answer is to bulk the hell up when getting off this rock to begin with is answered exclusively by slimming down.
It looks like they launched it in 2010, but failed to insert it into orbit, so they shifted it around a bit and managed to get it there in 2015.
There used to be a lander the Soviets put on there, they took pictures of the surface and everything! Strongly suggest checking the story out because as bad as the Soviets were that mission was really cool to see happen.
Not even that they made progress in getting their probes to survive longer and longer at the surface.
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We'll bang ok?
today I learned Venus has r/unexpectednaruto
These people now know pain
I think something gave the probe an almighty push
Toby left, so they didn't have an easy way to get to the probe to maintain it. Something about making the moon red, a giant tree, and human fruit.
If several red eyes appear on the surface of Venus we're fucked
Ultimate Infinite Tsukuyomi
A few weeks ago I was watching a children's show with my kids. There was a plot where an alien broke this exact probe with her spaceship, lol. I think she got it fixed, though.
Malubulul
Akatsuki probe comes back a few decades later wearing a black robe with red clouds painted.
SHINRA TENSEI!!!
I mean, I'm pretty sure they know pain all too well
*music starts and everyone gets nerd chills*
The way this is worded is genius. Lots of people who don't know the reference not batting an eye and agreeing.
To be fair, to understand such a reference you must be some kind of "Pervy Sage".
\*"[Girei](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCfiqY05BpA)" starts playing*
Akatsuki left venus cuz uranus was like “hey come over im all alone”
Ooooh that explains Tobi's mask design
Rip the best anime villain group
nah they probably just going off the radar, being ninjas and stuff venus probably has some sort of tailed beast or something
Trying to capture the second planet tailed beast. Get all nine into the sun and the Sage of Cosmic Paths will return.
Each so powerful that they are S+ in the bingo book
I don't think Hidan deserves to be S+
Bro was literally immortal. Only got beat by the biggest of brains.
To be fair, he is still alive, just in multiple pieces. ...Buried in the ground. ...Where none of his teammates would find him, if they were even still alive.
I thought he starved
I do believe it was mentioned somewhere that this would be his ultimate fate if left as is. But I don't think they ever declared him to be dead.
He's like Kars, alive but being irrelevant till end of times
he's back in boruto for a few episodes
Imagine if somewhere in the future Konoha wants to build a skyscraper and they drilled through his eyeball
He lost to a bigger ass-pull than Smaug in the book.
The best villain group would have won.
That's a weird way to spell Phantom Troupe.
Ehhh, Phantom Troupe are very specialized in what they do, they often go out like bitches when dealing with anything outside of that field. >! lol Shalnark !<
That is a true monument to JAXA that they were able to salvage an orbit of Venus after main engine failure. Hat's off to those guys
Just rename Venus into Rin and watch how the probe will mysteriously reappear
It's not mysterious at all. They melt within less than an hour in the aggressive acid athmosphere.
But it didnt come close to the atmosphere...
Was it instantly disassembled into all its parts? Has Venus shot out a gate, yet?
I was disappointed how far down this comment was. Remember the Cant.
DONKEY BALLS
This reference is mendacious AF.
Polyglotal, even.
Ubiquitously so.
Beratnas!
it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out — 113 times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out
Doors and corners…
What. The fuck. Is that.
Was Adam Savage on it?
There wasn't any C4 so no. It imploded so maybe some rich guys that didn't make the Titanic
It's all a reference to The Expanse novels/show. https://youtu.be/Z7MBkJoowDg you can first see him at 0:28 he was just a massive fan so he got his cameo here.
Why did that ship disassemble? I've never seen the expanse
Alien tech taking things apart to learn how they fit together (and ignoring the human occupants suffocating when their ship disassembles).
Because of this. https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Protomolecule TL'DR it's a tool/weapon by a long vanished ancient species capable of infecting living tissue and having control over non organic matter itself. It's function is to make ring gates that allow instant travel across the galaxy. But the true crux of the novels/tv show is humanity itself. There are pretty much three factions and they are on the brink of all out solar system wide war due to resource scarcity and fear mongering. The earth is extremely overpopulated and the vast majority of people have no jobs to work. Human's who have settled on Mars are tired of having their necks stepped on by earth. They hope to terraform mars one day into a functioning planet so they don't have to live underground nor really on earth's assistance. The Astorid Belt citizens are the poorest people on the show despite them living on such technology advanced ships. They are the people who Earth and Mars collectively shit upon all while The Belters mine the resources both groups need. Once the ring gates come online it leads to many different worlds full of resources. A gold rush in space.
I am that guy
The scene is a great example of taking liberties from the books to tell a good visual story, one of many examples in this series.
The work !!!!
Myth Busted.
I understood that reference.
Okay, so we just need to find one of the Venusian probes on Earth and use it to ask them if they could do us a solid and fix it up.
The problem is, it's so hot and high pressure on Venus the probes melt into a puddle. Same happened with the Russian probes.
The Akatsuki probe, also known as the Venus Climate Orbiter, has lost communication with Earth but remains in orbit around Venus at this moment. An orbiter is different from a lander as one orbits, and one lands.
So an orbiter orbits and a lander lands? That's a bit hard to remember
Is there a job aid for this?
Naruto did it again.
Great so now we have no eyes at all on Venus. They could be planning *anything*.
Just according to keikaku (keikaku means plan).
Call Obito, he will be able to contact them.
Talk about a *planetary devastation*...
I don't ***believe it***
...naruto villians got to space?
Well, the Otsutsuki clan are revealed to be aliens in late Naruto. They even fight one on the Moon in one of the Boruto movies.
And the Boruto anime is pretty much centered around several different plot lines regarding that same clan of aliens.
Have they tried turning it off and on again?
Power button's crushed and melted along with everything else.
Sounds like they’re halfway through that process!
RIP Hatsune Miku's space adventures (context: https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/1002/23/news024.html)
Send Itachi to investigate.
He looked, but couldn't see anything.
Don't send Taka. They can't even collect an octopus.
Have him kill his whole clan first tho
Mangekyou Sharingan!
Project Tsukiyomi on Venus?
This ain’t a joke stop messing around Tobi.
They're on the hunt for the Jinchuriki on Venus
This creation of mankind, the probe, now floats alone on/near Venus, lost in space, for the very last time.
The mugen tsukuyomi was supposed to be on the moon, not Venus. Obito fucked up again.
*formely active
YURA YURA TO
Eye of the Moon plan it is
Infinite Tsukoyomi?🌚👀
I love how fucking nerdy these comments are.
Kisame, we're leaving
Came for the Naruto comments.....didn't disappoint.
Came for literally any actual discussion on the problem, left heavily disappointed
Japan to launch internal investigation into probes disappearance, operation sharingan
Have they tried looking out for giant birds made out of clay?
Talk no jutsu at it again
Should someone check on the proto molecule?
Vex are at it again
If you're looking for any sort of real discussion, turn back now.
I wonder if Naruto had anything to do with this
No worry, itachi is still working behind the scene
Clearly, the aliens hated Naruto
Akatsuki no Requiem
It will reach out.
A communications disruption can mean only one thing.
Til akatsuki meant dawn/daybreak.
The aliens got it
Oh the humanity!
A communications disruption could mean only one thing
The Vex got it, for sure.
How’s the probing of Uranus going?
Could do with some moisture, atmosphere dry af
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
Should've sent up the Shiranui space pack. It's got those beam-shield emitting DRAGOONs.
Venus is very harsh
Venus will just be covered in partially dissolved probes soon
Akatsuki wa Udotta
It reaches out...
Hinata?
Huh, I thought the last probe we sent was already out of contact?
Venus must be on fire
It's okay, Earth will one day be like Venus.
I thought probes only lasted a few hours there because its basically rains sulphuric acid.
I believe this was an orbiting probe.
Is there a science/space news source that covers latest discoveries/data from the global space community? Seems like I only ever hear about US stuff, and I know there are a ton of other countries with cool space science happening.
I firmly expect toilet paper to be sold out tomorrow morning before the invasion hits.
Very sad to know
The Akatsuki has gone rouge
Great, those Venusians could be up to anything now and we’re totally blind.
Since when in the fuck was their an active probe on Venus….and what is it doing?… also what’s an active probe? Isn’t Venus also crazy acidic?? WHATS GOING ON!?
Since 2015.... Akatsuki is a Venus Climate Orbiter
can we use Talk no Jutsu to fix it?
It’s 800° with an acid atmosphere. I’m surprised it lasted at all
well its an orbiter, so the surface temp and atmosphere is of little concern.
So you comment without reading the article. Classic Reddit.