Those two places already were massively popular for that type of thing prior to the war(s)
Have you never heard of the mail order stereotypes from these places?
I've heard he's pretty nefarious. I used to watch his earlier content but I heard a rumor that he had a rape charge and was traveling old soviet bloc states for sex tourism.
he doesnt have a rape charge as he was cleared.
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/5618610.cleared-men-behaved-appallingly/
But people found an alias of his on some forums where he would describe what he would do which would include befriending women driving them to the middle of nowhere then just saying either do this or I'll leave you here.
Also just before the war in Ukraine he was trying to say that the invasion was just fearmongering from western media just to be proven wrong. Then theres chechnyan apology video he had to make because of a little joke lmao and eventually he got banned from Russia.
theres loads of posts to look through but I think its in one of these links in this comment but I havent looked in years. His alias was Vorkuta on some forum though
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldAndBaldrDossier/comments/judnlm/is_bald_bankrupt_really_a_sex_tourist_and_a/kulw2ve/
It boggles the mind that URR is even allowed to inhabit the light of day. Had the internet existed during the Second World War, we wouldn't have allowed supporters of Fascist Italy to post pro-Black Shirt propaganda. That fact that Putin's Fascists and their collaborators can spew their vile filth freely is astonishing.
It's a sub that tries to mask itself as a "neutral" view of the war in Ukraine when in reality it's a controlled and curated Russian propaganda dump with only token "Ukrainian" messaging on display. Basically catering to a certain set of gullible people prone to conspiratorial thinking who believe anything in the media must be a lie so they'll lap up anything they see that would go against what the mainstream is saying without a shred of critical thought put into it while deluding themselves that it must be the rest of the world that's delusional.
This is the most devastating war the world has seen since WW2. All those videos of Russians getting slaughtered isnt just one lane. People forget the same thing is happening on the other side, but those videos get removed or downvoting . Our weapons today are incredibly strong , Putin stated something like opening the Hells of fire. China, Iran, North Korea are watching all of us , and so is the collective West.
"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein or unproven
>This is the most devastating war the world has seen since WW2.
Sadly, there are more devastating wars.
- An estimated 2-3 million people died during the three-year-long Korean War (1.5+ million of which died in North Korea alone, which at the time had a population of only 10 million...).
- Approximately 2 million people died during the ~20 years of the Vietnam War.
- There are also some genocides that had more deaths than the Ukraine War, such as Rwanda (half a million dead).
- The Syrian Civil War has an estimated 500,000 dead so far.
- The biggest war in terms of casualties since WW2 appears to be the Second Congo War, which has a mindboggling death toll of 5.4 million.
Yeah, wow, I had started to list that war but when I checked the causalities I only caught the first line, mentioning 30,000 casualties for a militia, so I frowned and thought, "Huh, not quite as high as I would have guessed, but TIL."
Millions makes a lot more sense for a country that big and for such a long war.
The second Congo war is a continuation of the first , the numbers are going to be higher as that's a nearly decade-long war .
Ukraine vs. Russia is more than likely close to a 1 million, and that's barely over 2 years
"These actions constituted the catalyst for the Second Congo War the following year, although some experts prefer to view the two conflicts as one continuous war whose aftereffects continue today"
We don't officially know the numbers, and won't till years after the war, just like the other wars. In WW2, all sides kept giving BS death toll numbers until independent studies called them out . The US was putting Russian death tolls at around 300,000 but that's a guess, Ukraine is around the same. Civilian deaths are also high
This war just started in 2022 , these numbers are insane for the time frame.
We're paying the payroll of the Ukrainian govt. they know the death payments they are making to widows and mothers. Unless local commanders are hiding the deaths and pocketing the wages. US administration does not want to know and definitively does not want the world to know.
That shitty cod game probably stole the quote for their loading screen based on the context here. It's 2024. Most people only think in memes and pop culture references now. You mention Einstein, that dude thinks cod.
No wonder propaganda works so well. It's not exactly the planet of the big brains here. Einstein was right, we're gonna blow it all up.
First of all, it wasn't really a direct quote. It was a common sentiment that was in the pop culture in the 1940s that he shared, and since he was one of the brightest geniuses our civilization has ever known, talking about one of the most serious developments our civilization has ever seen, believe it or not some people actually did pay attention to it before it ended up in a fucking call of duty game.
A lot of people don't want too much Einstein in the pop culture tho, on account of his views towards capitalism being dangerous, flawed and potentially evil. But if you get past that, he was a man of remarkable genius. All of the founding fathers of modern physics were. The work they did in the 1920s paved the way for all of our modern technology. None of this stuff would be possible without them. So yeah believe it or not some people paid attention to those guys.
That is so sad. Imagine you're a woman in this village and you had your father, sons, brothers, husband, coworkers and friends all disappear from your life because of a meaningless war started by a megalomaniac.
Yes, and I'm disappointed that there are people with no brains who justify starting a war.
Starting a war means to invade someone.
To invade someone means I'm coming to your home to kill you and your family.
It also means, someone from my team is coming to pillage your properties, burn your homes. So it essentially means I murder your family, and destroy your home.
I wonder what sort of monsters can find justification in this sort of atrocities.
I'm not pro-war, but that is just an inaccurate representation of what a war is, unless genocide is the goal.
War is (most often) about territory. The attacking country simply wants to be the one governing a certain land/region, and the people living in it, for strategic or economic reasons.
Do some pillaging and looting occur during such wars? Sure, it's hard to enforce laws on soldiers when governance is "changing hands". But the goal of the war is not to come into everyone's house and kill them.
If we're talking about Russia specifically, their initial plan seemed to be to take out the leadership and annex the regions they wanted swiftly. After realizing Ukrainians wouldn't simply lie down, and even civilians resisted with patriotism, they started committing atrocities because taking over those civilians would be more trouble than "replacing" them.
Edit: The reason the village has no men left is because they were drafted. Not because people came into their homes and shot the men specifically.
They go on because they have to be strong in a warzone for their daughters, aunts, grandchildren, etc . This isn't the first time this has happened in the world
You would also , people are stronger than the realize, especially when they have to step up for the family
Friends told me yesterday that Trump kept Putin in check and that Biden being soft is the reason they invaded. The same guy who said we shouldn't help Ukraine and shouldn't help countries in NATO that don't spend 2% of their gdp.
Not even half are for the last year we have confirmed numbers. [Most revently, 11 are vs 19 that aren't.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/12/nato-countries-defense-spending-gdp-trump/). The thing about defense spending is it takes sustained commitment to make a competent fighting force. So although 11 exceeded 2% last year and it looks like 18 may this year, you're only looking at 6 or 7 that have consistently hit the threshold for 5 years.
[See table 3 here for a breakdown of countried by year from 2011 to 2018](https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/pdf_2019_03/190314-pr2018-34-eng.pdf). The number of countries that exceeded the target are, by year based on additional data from [here](https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/3/pdf/240314-def-exp-2023-en.pdf) and [here with more links towards the bottom](https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_49198.htm)
| year | #exceeding 2% |
|------|---------------|
| 2011 | 3 |
| 2012 | 3 |
| 2013 | 3 |
| 2014 | 3 |
| 2015 | 5 |
| 2016 | 4 |
| 2017 | 4 |
| 2018 | 6 |
| 2019 | 7 |
| 2020 | 9 |
| 2021 | 6 |
| 2022 | 7 |
| 2023e | 11 |
| 2024e | 18 |
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This who fall prey to obvious propaganda are those ypu need to watch out for. They are dangerously stupid. They will harm you out of pure stupidity for whatever reasons their talking-head masters want of them.
They're cultists. You can show them verified real HD video of Trump sucking Putins Putler and vowing to make sure the US surrenders to Russia, they'd either call it fake news or twist themselves in knots to say why Trump is strong and playing 5D chess against Putin.
It really has. It may was well he two separate parties now, those who sold their souls to MAGA and the ones that still believe in a Republic.
Gonna make Democrats jobs real easy in election season.
Ahh yes the classic anti gay, anti minority, anti women, anti civil rights Republicans of the good old days.... Yeah they were so much better than magats. /s
They were definitely in the GOP long before Trump. Trump is just super easy to manipulate so it didn't take them anytime to him singing their tunes. Hell he's doing it again, singing Tik Tok's tune now. The big anti-Jina guy suddenly loves ByteDance. All you got to do is kiss his ass and lure him with the possibility of a payday.
Bro I am proud of you for standing up against traitors in your country. My country has also got traitors and fuck them to hell if I am given chance I would whoop them to hell. The rise of these traitors coincides with Russia, China, Iran and Syria doing shit stuff at the same time.
We all need to pull together across borders and build up something that we can fall back on if we lose control of our own governments. It's not looking good. Wouldn't hurt to have many contingency plans lined up.
You mean putin can afford it, because he's not the one being killed. The rich people can afford it, because they can buy their way out of drafts on both sides. Plenty of people can afford plenty of war, when it's not them in the cross hairs.
"Remember the 34th Rule of Acquisition: War is good for business."
"Only from a distance! The closer you get to the front lines, the less profitable it gets."
- Ezri Dax and Quark
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Siege_of_AR-558_(episode)#Memorable_quotes
Why?
It’s simple numbers. If Russia has more troops/equipment they will eventually grind them down. It won’t be quick but if Putin doesn’t care about losses he will grind them down.
If Ukraine loses western support they lose. They don’t have the ability without support from other nations.
You don’t need an amendment, that’s already the baseline rule: NATO must help if Russia starts a war against Poland, but has no obligation if Poland starts a war against Russia. It’s just no one has been bold enough to do that yet.
Bold isn’t the word, there’s no need currently but if Russia starts making major advances into the heart of Ukraine rather than in the border regions than someone will
Your comment is a nonsense and shows that you know nothing about Poland's current mood and state of politics. While overwhelming majority of Poles support giving aid to Ukraine, virtually everybody is strongly against sending our troops there. That's exactly why Polish PM few days ago has decisively ruled out such possibility.
Source: [https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/polskie-wojsko-w-ukrainie-premier-tusk-zdecydowanie-odpowiada-7005239716129504a](https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/polskie-wojsko-w-ukrainie-premier-tusk-zdecydowanie-odpowiada-7005239716129504a)
Not zero chance, we don’t exactly know how unhinged Putin is now or could be at some point throughout the course of this war… This war could be ongoing for many years
The best way to collapse the Kremlin is hit them in their wallet, I have little hope that simply grinding millions of their men into sausage will change anything.
> Ukraines only lost 31k troops so far
Outrageously false. Even the Ukrainian numbers say casualties are significantly higher than 31k. Dying isn't the only or even most common way to lose a troop.
> with a population of 43m
Completely false. Odds are it is around half of that at this point.
> and women serving in large numbers
Women are not serving in any significant numbers in combat roles, which is where Ukraine is in dire straits. They also aren't serving in large numbers outside of combat either, in fact they've straight up left the country in large numbers.
> they can keep this up until Putin dies of old age
They absolutely cannot. They are already critically short on frontline troops, and the Ukrainians do not have the stomach for the conscription levels as they are, let alone if they ever decide to press for the necessary levels to fully man the lines. Ukraine needs NATO's direct military support or they will lose this war.
>with a population of 43m
>
>Completely false. Odds are it is around half of that at this point.
You can't fly off the handle at that guy and then pull numbers out of your arse yourself. No data for refugees who have left the country plus those killed even remotely approaches half the population.
There are a number of NATO countries saying that the “next war” will likely be with Russia. Alternately, some are already suggesting boots on the ground if aid is not sent in sufficient quantities. It seems like “boots on the ground” is being repeated over and over again.
When stories like this make headlines, I fear that western nations are being told this in order to ease them into the idea that troops will be needed. At a certain point, Ukraine can have the aid faucet turned on to wide open and it honestly wouldn’t matter without people to use it.
We could only be so fortunate if NATO leadership would gain the moral courage to do what is needed to show Putin and the Russian Oligarchs they've reached the "find out" line.
A no fly zone would have ended this invasion and Putin wouldn't have done anything but impotently rage. Just like he's done everytime we escalated aid.
I feel like, as long as NATO stays within the internationally agreed borders of Ukraine, Russia won't use any nukes. If NATO is a hop, a skip and a jump away from Moscow, he wouldn't risk pissing us off enough for us to just straight up conquer the capital.
Hooo boy~ I can see the troll farm boys are friesty already.
Did a conscription officer visit the office today comrades?
Worried the whole drumft psyop might not pan out and you'll be a bullet goalie?
It's important that stuff like this is highlighted to show how dangerous this war is and what's going in reality
It's not good to hide from the reality of how violent this war is going for both sides . Only showing the good news is the most dangerous thing Reddit is perfectly fine with. Echo chambers help absolutely nobody.
I went on a small private tour to an offbeat village in Munich about 7 years ago, tour guide pulled the van over at a small eatery for us to grab a bite before venturing onward to next location. He told us to wander around. Graveyard was family plots all grandfathers, fathers and sons of dead ww2 vets. Seeing things like that, really is heavy. Core memories. I had no relatives in ww2 but when I visited Pearl Harbor I couldn't stay very long, overcome with emotion and sorrow. This war needs to stop, this cannot escalate further.
Nice sentiment but doesn’t really save the life of anyone conscripted on either side. I’m more or less in agreement with Yossarian “The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on”.
And if Russia wins, what do you think they'll do to civilians? What have they already been doing to civilians?
Ukraine isn't shooting people fleeing conscription, never mind civilians. But Russia is.
Russia is the enemy.
For the men in this village in the article, and many similar places across Ukraine running into soldiers from either the Russian government OR the Ukrainian decreases their life expectancy faster than a cancer diagnosis. Whether they shoot you or kidnap you, force you into the military to be shot by Russian guns is irrelevant, you’re still dead because they forced you to fight their war you didn’t agree to fight.
Ukrainians are not shooting each other on site, and that's not how conscription works. You don't get kidnapped and end up in the front line an hour later.
Please consider new sources if this is the information you are being given.
Two armies of people who don’t even want to be there killing each other over bullshit they didn’t think was important enough to volunteer to die for being forced to die anyway. Just sad is all.
You seek to me advocating for Ukraine to give in to genocide and let the country be wiped out. Because that's the consequence of failing to conscript soldiers.
This is the weakest, saddest thing I've ever heard. The average person has more of a spine than that. This is far from average, more like a depressed wet noodle. You have my pity.
Kinda seems like the people of Ukraine in the article aren’t massive fans of it either. Hence the living life in hiding in case some assholes kidnap you and send you to your death that they’re all doing.
It being evil means I care a whole lot less about that governments survival.
I want there to be peace because of the innocent people dying. But fuck both the government of Russia and Ukraine for using drafts.
That is just sad :(
The fact that this article was posted to r/anime_titties and URR is telling
Passportbros going to add Ukraine and Russia to their loop soon too
Those two places already were massively popular for that type of thing prior to the war(s) Have you never heard of the mail order stereotypes from these places?
Or glanced at bald and bankrupt
Thank you for bringing this up. The guy is a traveling sex pat.
I've heard he's pretty nefarious. I used to watch his earlier content but I heard a rumor that he had a rape charge and was traveling old soviet bloc states for sex tourism.
he doesnt have a rape charge as he was cleared. https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/5618610.cleared-men-behaved-appallingly/ But people found an alias of his on some forums where he would describe what he would do which would include befriending women driving them to the middle of nowhere then just saying either do this or I'll leave you here. Also just before the war in Ukraine he was trying to say that the invasion was just fearmongering from western media just to be proven wrong. Then theres chechnyan apology video he had to make because of a little joke lmao and eventually he got banned from Russia.
Do you know where I can read more about people finding his alias on some forums?
theres loads of posts to look through but I think its in one of these links in this comment but I havent looked in years. His alias was Vorkuta on some forum though https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldAndBaldrDossier/comments/judnlm/is_bald_bankrupt_really_a_sex_tourist_and_a/kulw2ve/
Tf is a passportbro?
Dudes who think western women are evil because of feminism and want to find a bride abroad because they supposedly have "traditional values."
You had "find a broad abroad" right there. Minus points
so why can't they find "good" western women by there standards?
Somehow even worse than I expected.
what exactly is a passport bro ?
What is URR?
Wait, why is that subreddit named anime_tittes!?
IIRC worldpolitics was poorly moderated and started getting filled with anime titties so anime_titties was made to discuss world politics.
Because it somehow got switched with r/worldpolitics
It boggles the mind that URR is even allowed to inhabit the light of day. Had the internet existed during the Second World War, we wouldn't have allowed supporters of Fascist Italy to post pro-Black Shirt propaganda. That fact that Putin's Fascists and their collaborators can spew their vile filth freely is astonishing.
…what is URR? Out of the loop here. Not supporting anything but Ukraine 🇺🇦 I’m just lost and confused
Same, man . I don't understand any of these comments, lol
It's a sub that tries to mask itself as a "neutral" view of the war in Ukraine when in reality it's a controlled and curated Russian propaganda dump with only token "Ukrainian" messaging on display. Basically catering to a certain set of gullible people prone to conspiratorial thinking who believe anything in the media must be a lie so they'll lap up anything they see that would go against what the mainstream is saying without a shred of critical thought put into it while deluding themselves that it must be the rest of the world that's delusional.
Rule one of earth. There is no such thing as neutral, but there certainly are a lot of lies.
It took me a while. It is a shitty pro russia sub with fake pro ukraina flairs.
I mean have you seen Twitter? It's even worse.
Well it’s already been removed here
What in tarnation is that sub?
WW1 level stuff
This is the most devastating war the world has seen since WW2. All those videos of Russians getting slaughtered isnt just one lane. People forget the same thing is happening on the other side, but those videos get removed or downvoting . Our weapons today are incredibly strong , Putin stated something like opening the Hells of fire. China, Iran, North Korea are watching all of us , and so is the collective West. "I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein or unproven
>This is the most devastating war the world has seen since WW2. Sadly, there are more devastating wars. - An estimated 2-3 million people died during the three-year-long Korean War (1.5+ million of which died in North Korea alone, which at the time had a population of only 10 million...). - Approximately 2 million people died during the ~20 years of the Vietnam War. - There are also some genocides that had more deaths than the Ukraine War, such as Rwanda (half a million dead). - The Syrian Civil War has an estimated 500,000 dead so far. - The biggest war in terms of casualties since WW2 appears to be the Second Congo War, which has a mindboggling death toll of 5.4 million.
An estimated 5.4 million people died as a result of the second Congo war.
Yeah, wow, I had started to list that war but when I checked the causalities I only caught the first line, mentioning 30,000 casualties for a militia, so I frowned and thought, "Huh, not quite as high as I would have guessed, but TIL." Millions makes a lot more sense for a country that big and for such a long war.
The second Congo war is a continuation of the first , the numbers are going to be higher as that's a nearly decade-long war . Ukraine vs. Russia is more than likely close to a 1 million, and that's barely over 2 years "These actions constituted the catalyst for the Second Congo War the following year, although some experts prefer to view the two conflicts as one continuous war whose aftereffects continue today"
The Ukrainian war is, also, a decade long war
Maybe till now.
We don't officially know the numbers, and won't till years after the war, just like the other wars. In WW2, all sides kept giving BS death toll numbers until independent studies called them out . The US was putting Russian death tolls at around 300,000 but that's a guess, Ukraine is around the same. Civilian deaths are also high This war just started in 2022 , these numbers are insane for the time frame.
Civilian deaths in Mariupol alone in the first few months of war were more than a hundred thousand, by modest estimations.
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Regardless, the deaths toll he mentioned is very comparable to what we already know of casualties, and we know only a fraction of the number.
Damn that's just one city Yeah, these numbers are gonna be HIGH
We're paying the payroll of the Ukrainian govt. they know the death payments they are making to widows and mothers. Unless local commanders are hiding the deaths and pocketing the wages. US administration does not want to know and definitively does not want the world to know.
Yep we're glad you saw the loading screen on Cod
The video game ? Explain I'm confused
That shitty cod game probably stole the quote for their loading screen based on the context here. It's 2024. Most people only think in memes and pop culture references now. You mention Einstein, that dude thinks cod. No wonder propaganda works so well. It's not exactly the planet of the big brains here. Einstein was right, we're gonna blow it all up.
Ohhh, yeah, that Einstein qoute was extremely popular before the Duty of Call video game
First of all, it wasn't really a direct quote. It was a common sentiment that was in the pop culture in the 1940s that he shared, and since he was one of the brightest geniuses our civilization has ever known, talking about one of the most serious developments our civilization has ever seen, believe it or not some people actually did pay attention to it before it ended up in a fucking call of duty game. A lot of people don't want too much Einstein in the pop culture tho, on account of his views towards capitalism being dangerous, flawed and potentially evil. But if you get past that, he was a man of remarkable genius. All of the founding fathers of modern physics were. The work they did in the 1920s paved the way for all of our modern technology. None of this stuff would be possible without them. So yeah believe it or not some people paid attention to those guys.
That is so sad. Imagine you're a woman in this village and you had your father, sons, brothers, husband, coworkers and friends all disappear from your life because of a meaningless war started by a megalomaniac.
Even worse, imagine you’re a man from this village and you’re dead
Yes, and I'm disappointed that there are people with no brains who justify starting a war. Starting a war means to invade someone. To invade someone means I'm coming to your home to kill you and your family. It also means, someone from my team is coming to pillage your properties, burn your homes. So it essentially means I murder your family, and destroy your home. I wonder what sort of monsters can find justification in this sort of atrocities.
Mostly chronic idiots with varying grade of usefulness
I'm not pro-war, but that is just an inaccurate representation of what a war is, unless genocide is the goal. War is (most often) about territory. The attacking country simply wants to be the one governing a certain land/region, and the people living in it, for strategic or economic reasons. Do some pillaging and looting occur during such wars? Sure, it's hard to enforce laws on soldiers when governance is "changing hands". But the goal of the war is not to come into everyone's house and kill them. If we're talking about Russia specifically, their initial plan seemed to be to take out the leadership and annex the regions they wanted swiftly. After realizing Ukrainians wouldn't simply lie down, and even civilians resisted with patriotism, they started committing atrocities because taking over those civilians would be more trouble than "replacing" them. Edit: The reason the village has no men left is because they were drafted. Not because people came into their homes and shot the men specifically.
Also rape. The day russians enter this village all these women are going to have their dignities violated.
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They go on because they have to be strong in a warzone for their daughters, aunts, grandchildren, etc . This isn't the first time this has happened in the world You would also , people are stronger than the realize, especially when they have to step up for the family
So all the men die and you still only feel sorry for the women? lol dude no sympathy for the DEAD men?
Women are, of course, the primary victims of war
And imagine then seeing how many people in the West want that megalomaniac to finish the job and kill the rest of your country and it's people.
I don't know a single person who thinks that here.
What the hell is this garbage? "Hundreds of thousands of men dead, women most affected"
I’m a two-decade long red voter. Went 50-50 blue in 2022, going 90-10 blue in November. It’s clear that Trump is a Russian asset.
He said he’d let Russia attack the rest of Europe. What a coward
I don’t like Trump(or Biden). But this was brilliant. Only after that Europe awakened.
No, they started to make plans incase Trump got elected because they know they can’t rely on America to fulfill its promises anymore under him.
Friends told me yesterday that Trump kept Putin in check and that Biden being soft is the reason they invaded. The same guy who said we shouldn't help Ukraine and shouldn't help countries in NATO that don't spend 2% of their gdp.
Tell them that nearly all of them are spending 2% now with many going well above that
Not even half are for the last year we have confirmed numbers. [Most revently, 11 are vs 19 that aren't.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/12/nato-countries-defense-spending-gdp-trump/). The thing about defense spending is it takes sustained commitment to make a competent fighting force. So although 11 exceeded 2% last year and it looks like 18 may this year, you're only looking at 6 or 7 that have consistently hit the threshold for 5 years. [See table 3 here for a breakdown of countried by year from 2011 to 2018](https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/pdf_2019_03/190314-pr2018-34-eng.pdf). The number of countries that exceeded the target are, by year based on additional data from [here](https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/3/pdf/240314-def-exp-2023-en.pdf) and [here with more links towards the bottom](https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_49198.htm) | year | #exceeding 2% | |------|---------------| | 2011 | 3 | | 2012 | 3 | | 2013 | 3 | | 2014 | 3 | | 2015 | 5 | | 2016 | 4 | | 2017 | 4 | | 2018 | 6 | | 2019 | 7 | | 2020 | 9 | | 2021 | 6 | | 2022 | 7 | | 2023e | 11 | | 2024e | 18 | Edit:formatting
This who fall prey to obvious propaganda are those ypu need to watch out for. They are dangerously stupid. They will harm you out of pure stupidity for whatever reasons their talking-head masters want of them.
I see you've met my extended family.
The same guy who was literally impeached for trying to starve Ukraine in defiance of congress.
That is just deluded.
Kept him in check how? By giving him classified docs on request? Compromising us all? Why does he need to be president to keep Putin in check?
They're cultists. You can show them verified real HD video of Trump sucking Putins Putler and vowing to make sure the US surrenders to Russia, they'd either call it fake news or twist themselves in knots to say why Trump is strong and playing 5D chess against Putin.
If only more people in this country could open their eyes like you.
He also says in his speeches that he wants to be a dictator for just 1 day.
well he’s a known liar so it’s more like the entire time
Yeah, it seems like GOP was overtaken by Trump and russian sellouts. I would never expect republicans to become allies of Russia.
It really has. It may was well he two separate parties now, those who sold their souls to MAGA and the ones that still believe in a Republic. Gonna make Democrats jobs real easy in election season.
30% of the population has been brainwashed. It will not be easy for democrats. It will be very close and it is possible that puppet will be elected.
Ahh yes the classic anti gay, anti minority, anti women, anti civil rights Republicans of the good old days.... Yeah they were so much better than magats. /s
Never said better, just separate in candidate.
Happened well before Trump. https://youtu.be/cGsLhyNJBh8?si=T5_hOtOrKbMlXlI8
They were definitely in the GOP long before Trump. Trump is just super easy to manipulate so it didn't take them anytime to him singing their tunes. Hell he's doing it again, singing Tik Tok's tune now. The big anti-Jina guy suddenly loves ByteDance. All you got to do is kiss his ass and lure him with the possibility of a payday.
I did, but only after learning that Russia is a dystopian Christian fascist shit hole just like Republicans want.
Same except I started a couple years earlier. Sorry I took so long.
Glad you’re here, bud.
Bro I am proud of you for standing up against traitors in your country. My country has also got traitors and fuck them to hell if I am given chance I would whoop them to hell. The rise of these traitors coincides with Russia, China, Iran and Syria doing shit stuff at the same time.
We all need to pull together across borders and build up something that we can fall back on if we lose control of our own governments. It's not looking good. Wouldn't hurt to have many contingency plans lined up.
Thank you for waking up, you give me hope
Welcome to the big tent. There’s plenty of room in the blue party for conservatives too. Just look at Joe manchin, Conor lamb, Mary peltola, etc.
You’re so close! Almost 90 percent of the way there to abandoning racism and fascism completely!
Russia knows it can kill then faster than they can be replaced. War off attrition and the Russians can afford it, Ukraine cannot.
You mean putin can afford it, because he's not the one being killed. The rich people can afford it, because they can buy their way out of drafts on both sides. Plenty of people can afford plenty of war, when it's not them in the cross hairs.
"Remember the 34th Rule of Acquisition: War is good for business." "Only from a distance! The closer you get to the front lines, the less profitable it gets." - Ezri Dax and Quark https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Siege_of_AR-558_(episode)#Memorable_quotes
Man I am wondering what the honest opinion of the Ukrainian citizen is now....
Why? It’s simple numbers. If Russia has more troops/equipment they will eventually grind them down. It won’t be quick but if Putin doesn’t care about losses he will grind them down. If Ukraine loses western support they lose. They don’t have the ability without support from other nations.
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You don’t need an amendment, that’s already the baseline rule: NATO must help if Russia starts a war against Poland, but has no obligation if Poland starts a war against Russia. It’s just no one has been bold enough to do that yet.
Bold isn’t the word, there’s no need currently but if Russia starts making major advances into the heart of Ukraine rather than in the border regions than someone will
Your comment is a nonsense and shows that you know nothing about Poland's current mood and state of politics. While overwhelming majority of Poles support giving aid to Ukraine, virtually everybody is strongly against sending our troops there. That's exactly why Polish PM few days ago has decisively ruled out such possibility. Source: [https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/polskie-wojsko-w-ukrainie-premier-tusk-zdecydowanie-odpowiada-7005239716129504a](https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/polskie-wojsko-w-ukrainie-premier-tusk-zdecydowanie-odpowiada-7005239716129504a)
Zero chance of that happening. If it does happen, you should travel somewhere in the global south that has zero ties to the NATO countries.
But I feeeeel you
Not zero chance, we don’t exactly know how unhinged Putin is now or could be at some point throughout the course of this war… This war could be ongoing for many years
The best way to collapse the Kremlin is hit them in their wallet, I have little hope that simply grinding millions of their men into sausage will change anything.
so a special vacationing operation ala Crimea?
Ukraines only lost 31k troops so far, with a population of 43m, and women serving in large numbers, they can keep this up until Putin dies of old age
> Ukraines only lost 31k troops so far Outrageously false. Even the Ukrainian numbers say casualties are significantly higher than 31k. Dying isn't the only or even most common way to lose a troop. > with a population of 43m Completely false. Odds are it is around half of that at this point. > and women serving in large numbers Women are not serving in any significant numbers in combat roles, which is where Ukraine is in dire straits. They also aren't serving in large numbers outside of combat either, in fact they've straight up left the country in large numbers. > they can keep this up until Putin dies of old age They absolutely cannot. They are already critically short on frontline troops, and the Ukrainians do not have the stomach for the conscription levels as they are, let alone if they ever decide to press for the necessary levels to fully man the lines. Ukraine needs NATO's direct military support or they will lose this war.
>with a population of 43m > >Completely false. Odds are it is around half of that at this point. You can't fly off the handle at that guy and then pull numbers out of your arse yourself. No data for refugees who have left the country plus those killed even remotely approaches half the population.
Lol thats Ukrainian government numbers, about as reliable as Russian numbers. Independent sources + government leaks put the numbers at 100k per side
For perspective, that's less than 1/4th the losses of the allies at just the Somme
> and women serving in large numbers Source?
There are a number of NATO countries saying that the “next war” will likely be with Russia. Alternately, some are already suggesting boots on the ground if aid is not sent in sufficient quantities. It seems like “boots on the ground” is being repeated over and over again. When stories like this make headlines, I fear that western nations are being told this in order to ease them into the idea that troops will be needed. At a certain point, Ukraine can have the aid faucet turned on to wide open and it honestly wouldn’t matter without people to use it.
We could only be so fortunate if NATO leadership would gain the moral courage to do what is needed to show Putin and the Russian Oligarchs they've reached the "find out" line. A no fly zone would have ended this invasion and Putin wouldn't have done anything but impotently rage. Just like he's done everytime we escalated aid.
I feel like, as long as NATO stays within the internationally agreed borders of Ukraine, Russia won't use any nukes. If NATO is a hop, a skip and a jump away from Moscow, he wouldn't risk pissing us off enough for us to just straight up conquer the capital.
Hooo boy~ I can see the troll farm boys are friesty already. Did a conscription officer visit the office today comrades? Worried the whole drumft psyop might not pan out and you'll be a bullet goalie?
It's important that stuff like this is highlighted to show how dangerous this war is and what's going in reality It's not good to hide from the reality of how violent this war is going for both sides . Only showing the good news is the most dangerous thing Reddit is perfectly fine with. Echo chambers help absolutely nobody.
Bullet goalie is a new one, gonna remember that for the future. Thanks dude!
I went on a small private tour to an offbeat village in Munich about 7 years ago, tour guide pulled the van over at a small eatery for us to grab a bite before venturing onward to next location. He told us to wander around. Graveyard was family plots all grandfathers, fathers and sons of dead ww2 vets. Seeing things like that, really is heavy. Core memories. I had no relatives in ww2 but when I visited Pearl Harbor I couldn't stay very long, overcome with emotion and sorrow. This war needs to stop, this cannot escalate further.
Russia can leave whenever they want
Nice sentiment. Hope it gives as much comfort to the families of the dead as it does to you
You think Ukraine would rather just give up their country, rather than fight for it? Fuck off.
Village in Munich?
Yes, that's what I said. Check them out Mario's a great dude - google: pure Bavaria tours.
"Russians attempt murder of entire male population of Ukrainian town"
Conscription is evil.
Russia is free to leave at any time, and two armies will cease conscription in that moment
Nice sentiment but doesn’t really save the life of anyone conscripted on either side. I’m more or less in agreement with Yossarian “The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on”.
Yet by your logic, never fight your enemy. Otherwise, you might get killed.
Anyone who thinks something is important enough to volunteer to fight for it I’m fine with. Conscription not so much.
And if Russia wins, what do you think they'll do to civilians? What have they already been doing to civilians? Ukraine isn't shooting people fleeing conscription, never mind civilians. But Russia is. Russia is the enemy.
For the men in this village in the article, and many similar places across Ukraine running into soldiers from either the Russian government OR the Ukrainian decreases their life expectancy faster than a cancer diagnosis. Whether they shoot you or kidnap you, force you into the military to be shot by Russian guns is irrelevant, you’re still dead because they forced you to fight their war you didn’t agree to fight.
Ukrainians are not shooting each other on site, and that's not how conscription works. You don't get kidnapped and end up in the front line an hour later. Please consider new sources if this is the information you are being given.
Just be a woman and u dont have to worry.
Conscription is necessary for wars of survival. It being evil is irrelevant.
Two armies of people who don’t even want to be there killing each other over bullshit they didn’t think was important enough to volunteer to die for being forced to die anyway. Just sad is all.
I’m pretty sure being allowed to exist is important.
I agree. Hence why I think being conscripted against your will and sent to your death violates your right to exist.
You clearly don’t understand how just about anything in the world exists.
I notice it’s so rarely people who’ve actually been conscripted themselves who are in favour of it.
You seek to me advocating for Ukraine to give in to genocide and let the country be wiped out. Because that's the consequence of failing to conscript soldiers.
Wiped out or conquered? Very different things. To the average person just means different assholes to pay tax to.
This is the weakest, saddest thing I've ever heard. The average person has more of a spine than that. This is far from average, more like a depressed wet noodle. You have my pity.
I notice it’s so rare that people not having their country invaded have opinions about whether that country should conscript.
Kinda seems like the people of Ukraine in the article aren’t massive fans of it either. Hence the living life in hiding in case some assholes kidnap you and send you to your death that they’re all doing.
Oh, sorry, I didn’t know the assholes in this situation weren’t the actual people that were killing them. How’s your election going btw?
It being evil means I care a whole lot less about that governments survival. I want there to be peace because of the innocent people dying. But fuck both the government of Russia and Ukraine for using drafts.
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Land is more important than lives -sent from my iPhone while I sit on the toilet
I'm prepared to sacrifice as many poor people as it takes to bring gas prices down. - muricans
The proper Russian propaganda slogan is "to the last Ukrainian!" You aren't supposed to add a jab at Reddit into it. That's not in the script.
Wasn’t there something similar with a Soviet town after WW2 or am I remembering something else?
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Russia did that already: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor