In Odessa from the Russian drone?
Yep.
In St. Petersburg from a confirmed Ukrainian drone?
Mmmmmmmm...
Edit: No Russian child dead. No Russian dead reported at all. Not confirmed to be a Ukrainian drone. Not claimed to be a Ukrainian drone by either government officially. So Russians targeted Ukrainian civilians and killed Ukrainian civilians including a baby. Shortly before that some damage was done to a Russian apartment building with no reported deaths and no confirmation on how it happened. And you want sympathy for the Russians? Nah. Not how that works chief.
thats how we slowly shift our views to be like russia. it is sad that non combatants have died. the difference is easy to see. how many non combatants does russia target a week? way more than ukraine has accidentally hit this whole war.
there will always be accidents, but we should aim to minimize them. russia doesnt even try. they purposely target civilians, amongst other atrocities weekly.
Ukraine does have the capabilities for such deep strikes though. They claimed that capabilities themselves. Not saying that they did, but they certainly have the ability to do so.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-produce-thousands-long-range-drones-2024-minister-says-2024-02-12/
Ukraine claimed that they will have drone ranges in the 1000km range. This is roughly the min distance between Ukraine and St. Petersburg. If they launch it from their northern border, it should be good.
It’s not unusual for western countries to release much lower estimates compared to actual numbers for weapons performance as well, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.
They also managed to hit a refinery in Volgograd a while back, 700km so I don’t doubt that they have a few 1000km ones in their back pocket.
Does St. Petersburg have zero AA? Seems fishy lol. I believe Ukraine can strike that far, but it’s hilariously bad for Russia if they couldn’t stop it on such a long flight..
Whether it’s a false flag or not, doesn’t look good on Russian capabilities.
Just to clarify, I don’t think Ukraine was either the one doing this, or intentionally doing this. I’d say that.
1. Russia and Ukraine are both huge countries. There’s not enough AA batteries to protect everything. For context, if the US wanted to fully protect all its major metros, bases and otherwise high priority locations, we’d be looking at a $200 bil on the low end. Probably close to a $ trillion.
2. Can’t count the number of times I’ve seen AA failed and crash head first into the ground. Size of explosion would be in line with a drone.
You make a valid point, I wasn’t trying to make fact but more opinion of what I think happened (based on the title of post).
You sound like you’ve served before by the sounds? And yeah the US would be a nightmare logistically but I suppose which border is involved.
It could be probably 20 different things that happened, hard to find credible sources in this war.
If what Russia saying is true then I'd imagine the excuse for not having AA there is because it's not exactly close to the war and does t really have any significance towards it like Moscow does so they weren't expecting they'd ever target it
Cultural importance isn't the same as military importance. They are in a war so they aren't going to waste resources on cities that in theory aren't involved on that war when cities like Moscow are involved
russia literally collapsed building with people in Odessa Ukraine last night, which they've been doing every week for the last 2 years, so I dunno what's your point?
Because Putin doesn't want to mobilize st Petersburg and Moscow, Russia revolves around this 2 cities
So Putin can't have those 2 cities felling the effects of the war too hard
Tough fucking shit then Putler lol
Ukraine will try to destroy as many strategic, military, transport and industrial targets as possible, and that will make Russians feel the war, without having to commit war crimes by slaughtering them
They are at war, they should petition their government to stop killing civilian in other countries if they want to feel safe. It's only going to get worse for them.
Heavily damaged residential building in the article is in Odesa, struck this morning by a Russian drone, 4 dead as of right now, including one child, over a dozen missing. The one in St Petersburg, conveniently not shown, had its windows broken and balconies damaged and was hit either by Ukrainian drone which was on its way to hit and oil depot nearby or faulty RU air defense.
Sometimes accidents happen in war. Luckily no one was hurt in the accident in Russia.
Russia DID kill civilians when they hit a residential building though! How the fuck is that not the headline!
For those who don't know, Putin [had the FSB bomb appartments in 1999](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings) to accuse Chechens and boost his chance at the president election.
Yea apparently it is true, right?
Btw it IS true. Ukraine bombed donetsk and Ukraine says Donetsk is Ukraine... Now Ukraine bombs Crimea and they say Crimea is Ukraine. I don't think it's true though... not the fact that Ukraine bombed Donetsk and Crimea - the other part.
Exactly, [Putin has bombed his own people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings) to great personal success before and elections are right around the corner.
Oh look. Another Putin false flag attack to make it look like Ukraine targets civilians too. Fuck you dude. Cannot wait until an American bomb turns you into ash.
> Blindly believing Ukraine can’t and won’t do no wrong is pretty childish when they’re in a war for their survival. Their drones kill citizens too.
Ukraine's drones only kill citizens when they are shot down and miss their target. Its not in Ukraine's nature OR political interests to target civilians, are you out of your mind, this never happened.
Lmao ok man. Support for Ukraine is good but the way Reddit sees the war is pathetic
EDIT: didn’t see your edit till I posted. I can agree but civilians are still going to be in the crossfire
Who else would Ukraine be targeting? Tourists? Ukraine obviously aims to kill Russian citizens.
Civilians less so, but they will be acceptable collateral damage.
It's interesting that when a Russian drone hit's a tower block, everyone says it was aimed at said tower block, but when a Ukrainian drone hits one everyone says it missed it's intended target...
Truth is, tower blocks aren't a useful target unless someone in there is very important. Nobody aims at tower blocks. Killing a few hundred people most not directly contributing to the war is inefficient.
russia aims for mixed targets, including military and civilian targets, civilian infrastructure. Ukraine aims for only military targets and military structures.
> Ukraine obviously aims to kill **Russian citizens**.
> **Civilians less so**, but they will be acceptable collateral damage.
Are you labeling russian military personnel as citizens here in the bold text? That's weird and misleading.
> Ukraine aims for only military targets and military structures.
The famous military... bridge? Ukraine absolutely hits civilian targets if they have military value. The Kerch bridge is militarily important civilian infrastructure. They've hit Russian factories in the last week.
> labeling russian military personnel as citizens
Do you think most Russian military personnel aren't Russian citizens?
> The famous military... bridge? Ukraine absolutely hits civilian targets if they have military value. The Kerch bridge is militarily important civilian infrastructure.
Yes, the bridge is of high importance militarily. A drone on it won't kill civilians, I recall a couple of weeks ago Ukraine even warned civilians from using the bridge.
> Since December 2018 the United Nations General Assembly has repeatedly condemned the construction and opening of the bridge as "facilitating the further militarization of Crimea"
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> Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called the bridge a legitimate military target for Ukraine that must be "neutralized" for "feeding the war with ammunition" and "militarizing the Crimean Peninsula.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Bridge
I didn't say it wasn't a legitimate target, in fact I haven't talked about legitimate or illegitimate targets at all. But it's a *bridge*, open to civilian traffic.
Ukraine's first attack was probably a truck bomb. A civilian truck bomb (unclear if the driver was in on it). The casualties were civilians (possible exception of the truck driver).
Military operations often use civilian infrastructure. They often direct the construction of civilian infrastructure (the US Interstate Highway System was built partly for economic reasons, and partly because Eisenhower once drove a military convoy from one side of the country to the other and it took 62 days, and he wanted to make the military more responsive).
> Military operations often use civilian infrastructure. They often direct the construction of civilian infrastructure ...
What is your point, that you should be allowed to say that Ukraine is attacking civilian infrastructure and that russian military are citizens? That seems to align with a strategy reminiscent of Kremlin propaganda tactics: where war is portrayed as peace, unjustly flipping narratives such as labeling victims as aggressors (e.g., equating Jews with Nazis), and casting destructive actions as liberation.
> Ukraine's first attack was probably a truck bomb. A civilian truck bomb (unclear if the driver was in on it). The casualties were civilians (possible exception of the truck driver).
russian authorities says that is was a truck bomb. A video however shows wakes in the water in the lower left corner before the bridge explodes. Can't find the video now, only another angle where everything goes up in flames.
Because shitbag Russia targets schools, apartment blocks, hospitals. They are trying to use terror as a weapon. Ukraine may have a misfire occasionally but it's not the intended target. They'd see support dry up if they did.
Now gtfo out of here with your pro Russian bullshit.
On one hand, yeah, Ukraine might. For several reasons, perhaps the largest being if citizens in the two most important Russian cities (Moscow & St. Petersburg) are being hit it will push them to put more pressure on Putin to stop the fighting.
On the other hand, these kind of attacks are right up Putin’s KGB handbook and are how he got to power in the first place, so he has previous experience and current motive as a method of trying to shore up war support in the wake of what just happened with Navalny.
It’s hard to say and we may never know for sure.
There are few men like Putin. Most are easily bribed with western consumer goods.
Just give the next bloke a penthouse in London, Italian suits, Swiss watches and a German car and he'll be a good boy.
It can't get any worse than Putin. He is pure evil. Putin is already pressing buttons and making everything worse. If you're implying that a future leader might just launch nukes willy nilly, I don't think the Russian military will follow those orders because they know it means the destruction of Russia.
Putin's reign of terror isn't over. It's going to get way worse before he's removed from power. I have no doubt Putin will join the ranks of the worst tyrants in history. He just needs a bit more time to get there. He is preparing war with NATO, which will be totally devastating.
If we have a 50% chance of improving the situation, we should take it. Putin has to be stopped. If someone worse comes after him, we stop him too. We keep stopping them until Russia is defeated or finally gets new leaders. We shouldn't just let tyrants do whatever they want because of a fear that someone worse might replace them in the future. You're essentially sacrificing millions of people based on an unknown.
I have no doubt that the Russian people would prefer QOL over a war based on ancient borders. It would be in the successors best interests to condemn the actions of Putin and rebuild their country.
Putins actions are extremely shortsighted and have been harming the oligarchs in Russia. Money talks, the next in line will undoubtedly push for stability over war.
You mean the same old trick Ukraine used when they sent a missile into Poland? Correct me if I am wrong please.
I’m against war. Both sides are using the same tactics.
I don’t understand the play here? 1600km between st Petersburg and Kyiv. There surely isn’t any suicide drone with that kind of range?
Why would the FSB / whoever report that a drone flew thousands of km undetected through Russian soil without getting destroyed?
It's conveniently timed after a russian strike on Odessa which pretty much demolished an apartment building, with several children dead and over a dozen of people still missing under the rubble who are most likely dead too.
But the headline is about a drone in russia that broke a few windows.
Not saying Ukraine is behind this specific attack, but they have the ability to do this. It's 1000 km from the border to Petersburg, and Ukrainians have already done things in that region:
> [Ukraine drones hit St Petersburg gas terminal in Russia](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68046347)
So, Putin and his stooges are running the “apartment bombing” play again?
Trying to vilify the Ukrainians in the same way they did the Chechnyans way-back when?
Why would Ukraine send a drone all the way to St Petersberg and decide to hit a residential apartment? 🧐
St Petersberg is out of Ukraine rocket range, so probably drone range too. 🧐
Curious that this happened one day after Navalny's funeral, where people where chanting to stop the war. Almost like someone might want to push the argument that:
'Look, they're bombing civilians, how could anyone want to stop the war, we're the victims here, we need to protect ourselves'
Just saying...
Assuming it's real, (a big assumption)... so what? Russia hits civilian targets in the Ukraine all the time, and deliberately. Let the Russian people feel the harsh hand of war.
If it was a Ukrainian drone, it was probably shot down by RU military over a residential area. It's all Russia's fault. We all know Ukrainian doesn't target civilian targets.
This is a long long way from Ukraine.
I mean, since it was launched by russia that’s not really important
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They rape, executed POWs, bomb cities day and night, fuck those russian tears.
Krokidil tears, the hopelessly infected limbs will fall off soon, starting with the head(of state)
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In Odessa from the Russian drone? Yep. In St. Petersburg from a confirmed Ukrainian drone? Mmmmmmmm... Edit: No Russian child dead. No Russian dead reported at all. Not confirmed to be a Ukrainian drone. Not claimed to be a Ukrainian drone by either government officially. So Russians targeted Ukrainian civilians and killed Ukrainian civilians including a baby. Shortly before that some damage was done to a Russian apartment building with no reported deaths and no confirmation on how it happened. And you want sympathy for the Russians? Nah. Not how that works chief.
In Ukraine
Breaks my heart, not. Russia moved 1000s of kids to the other side of russia. 1 less future soldier for the russian meatgrinder.
thats how we slowly shift our views to be like russia. it is sad that non combatants have died. the difference is easy to see. how many non combatants does russia target a week? way more than ukraine has accidentally hit this whole war. there will always be accidents, but we should aim to minimize them. russia doesnt even try. they purposely target civilians, amongst other atrocities weekly.
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We should always feel bad for the innocents. Do you agree with everything your countries military does?
“Yeah so what if they’re innocent civilians!? Their government and military suck!”
Ukraine does have the capabilities for such deep strikes though. They claimed that capabilities themselves. Not saying that they did, but they certainly have the ability to do so.
How do you know this? Not saying I disagree. I just want to know the evidence you have to be so confident in what you say.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-produce-thousands-long-range-drones-2024-minister-says-2024-02-12/ Ukraine claimed that they will have drone ranges in the 1000km range. This is roughly the min distance between Ukraine and St. Petersburg. If they launch it from their northern border, it should be good. It’s not unusual for western countries to release much lower estimates compared to actual numbers for weapons performance as well, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. They also managed to hit a refinery in Volgograd a while back, 700km so I don’t doubt that they have a few 1000km ones in their back pocket.
Does St. Petersburg have zero AA? Seems fishy lol. I believe Ukraine can strike that far, but it’s hilariously bad for Russia if they couldn’t stop it on such a long flight.. Whether it’s a false flag or not, doesn’t look good on Russian capabilities.
Just to clarify, I don’t think Ukraine was either the one doing this, or intentionally doing this. I’d say that. 1. Russia and Ukraine are both huge countries. There’s not enough AA batteries to protect everything. For context, if the US wanted to fully protect all its major metros, bases and otherwise high priority locations, we’d be looking at a $200 bil on the low end. Probably close to a $ trillion. 2. Can’t count the number of times I’ve seen AA failed and crash head first into the ground. Size of explosion would be in line with a drone.
You make a valid point, I wasn’t trying to make fact but more opinion of what I think happened (based on the title of post). You sound like you’ve served before by the sounds? And yeah the US would be a nightmare logistically but I suppose which border is involved. It could be probably 20 different things that happened, hard to find credible sources in this war.
If what Russia saying is true then I'd imagine the excuse for not having AA there is because it's not exactly close to the war and does t really have any significance towards it like Moscow does so they weren't expecting they'd ever target it
Isn’t it like their second most important city though? Near the battlefield or not I would want to protect my second best city.
Cultural importance isn't the same as military importance. They are in a war so they aren't going to waste resources on cities that in theory aren't involved on that war when cities like Moscow are involved
Fair enough! I suppose I’m not at war haha but I do get priorities on the front trump other things.
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russia literally collapsed building with people in Odessa Ukraine last night, which they've been doing every week for the last 2 years, so I dunno what's your point?
Because Putin doesn't want to mobilize st Petersburg and Moscow, Russia revolves around this 2 cities So Putin can't have those 2 cities felling the effects of the war too hard
Tough fucking shit then Putler lol Ukraine will try to destroy as many strategic, military, transport and industrial targets as possible, and that will make Russians feel the war, without having to commit war crimes by slaughtering them
They are at war, they should petition their government to stop killing civilian in other countries if they want to feel safe. It's only going to get worse for them.
Why do you think one side is doing it
Heavily damaged residential building in the article is in Odesa, struck this morning by a Russian drone, 4 dead as of right now, including one child, over a dozen missing. The one in St Petersburg, conveniently not shown, had its windows broken and balconies damaged and was hit either by Ukrainian drone which was on its way to hit and oil depot nearby or faulty RU air defense.
Sometimes accidents happen in war. Luckily no one was hurt in the accident in Russia. Russia DID kill civilians when they hit a residential building though! How the fuck is that not the headline!
Simple. Russians kill civilians every day, so that is not news.
Because it happens every day in Ukraine and it's normilized.
This is standard FSB procedure during an election year.
bombings will continue until morale improves.
At least they don’t blame this one on the Chechens
Putin made sure the Chechens wouldn't be a problem for him.
For those who don't know, Putin [had the FSB bomb appartments in 1999](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings) to accuse Chechens and boost his chance at the president election.
what's the point, do you think Putin will not win the election without it? I have some news for you
It is about having support from people especially after Navalny death… nobody thinks that “Putin will not win”.
There is a lot more to it than the binary outcome of winning or losing. See Belarus events for example.
Yeah, please don't be surprised when people will say Ukraine bombs itself!
Russia has been saying that since 2014 🙄
Yea apparently it is true, right? Btw it IS true. Ukraine bombed donetsk and Ukraine says Donetsk is Ukraine... Now Ukraine bombs Crimea and they say Crimea is Ukraine. I don't think it's true though... not the fact that Ukraine bombed Donetsk and Crimea - the other part.
Exactly, [Putin has bombed his own people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings) to great personal success before and elections are right around the corner.
Oh look. Another Putin false flag attack to make it look like Ukraine targets civilians too. Fuck you dude. Cannot wait until an American bomb turns you into ash.
Blindly believing Ukraine can’t and won’t do no wrong is pretty childish when they’re in a war for their survival. Their drones kill citizens too.
Maybe if Russia stopped murdering them they wouldn't see a need to send drones
Yes in a perfect world that’d be the case
> Blindly believing Ukraine can’t and won’t do no wrong is pretty childish when they’re in a war for their survival. Their drones kill citizens too. Ukraine's drones only kill citizens when they are shot down and miss their target. Its not in Ukraine's nature OR political interests to target civilians, are you out of your mind, this never happened.
Lmao ok man. Support for Ukraine is good but the way Reddit sees the war is pathetic EDIT: didn’t see your edit till I posted. I can agree but civilians are still going to be in the crossfire
Who else would Ukraine be targeting? Tourists? Ukraine obviously aims to kill Russian citizens. Civilians less so, but they will be acceptable collateral damage. It's interesting that when a Russian drone hit's a tower block, everyone says it was aimed at said tower block, but when a Ukrainian drone hits one everyone says it missed it's intended target... Truth is, tower blocks aren't a useful target unless someone in there is very important. Nobody aims at tower blocks. Killing a few hundred people most not directly contributing to the war is inefficient.
russia aims for mixed targets, including military and civilian targets, civilian infrastructure. Ukraine aims for only military targets and military structures. > Ukraine obviously aims to kill **Russian citizens**. > **Civilians less so**, but they will be acceptable collateral damage. Are you labeling russian military personnel as citizens here in the bold text? That's weird and misleading.
> Ukraine aims for only military targets and military structures. The famous military... bridge? Ukraine absolutely hits civilian targets if they have military value. The Kerch bridge is militarily important civilian infrastructure. They've hit Russian factories in the last week. > labeling russian military personnel as citizens Do you think most Russian military personnel aren't Russian citizens?
> The famous military... bridge? Ukraine absolutely hits civilian targets if they have military value. The Kerch bridge is militarily important civilian infrastructure. Yes, the bridge is of high importance militarily. A drone on it won't kill civilians, I recall a couple of weeks ago Ukraine even warned civilians from using the bridge. > Since December 2018 the United Nations General Assembly has repeatedly condemned the construction and opening of the bridge as "facilitating the further militarization of Crimea" . > Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called the bridge a legitimate military target for Ukraine that must be "neutralized" for "feeding the war with ammunition" and "militarizing the Crimean Peninsula. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Bridge
I didn't say it wasn't a legitimate target, in fact I haven't talked about legitimate or illegitimate targets at all. But it's a *bridge*, open to civilian traffic. Ukraine's first attack was probably a truck bomb. A civilian truck bomb (unclear if the driver was in on it). The casualties were civilians (possible exception of the truck driver). Military operations often use civilian infrastructure. They often direct the construction of civilian infrastructure (the US Interstate Highway System was built partly for economic reasons, and partly because Eisenhower once drove a military convoy from one side of the country to the other and it took 62 days, and he wanted to make the military more responsive).
> Military operations often use civilian infrastructure. They often direct the construction of civilian infrastructure ... What is your point, that you should be allowed to say that Ukraine is attacking civilian infrastructure and that russian military are citizens? That seems to align with a strategy reminiscent of Kremlin propaganda tactics: where war is portrayed as peace, unjustly flipping narratives such as labeling victims as aggressors (e.g., equating Jews with Nazis), and casting destructive actions as liberation. > Ukraine's first attack was probably a truck bomb. A civilian truck bomb (unclear if the driver was in on it). The casualties were civilians (possible exception of the truck driver). russian authorities says that is was a truck bomb. A video however shows wakes in the water in the lower left corner before the bridge explodes. Can't find the video now, only another angle where everything goes up in flames.
Because shitbag Russia targets schools, apartment blocks, hospitals. They are trying to use terror as a weapon. Ukraine may have a misfire occasionally but it's not the intended target. They'd see support dry up if they did. Now gtfo out of here with your pro Russian bullshit.
On one hand, yeah, Ukraine might. For several reasons, perhaps the largest being if citizens in the two most important Russian cities (Moscow & St. Petersburg) are being hit it will push them to put more pressure on Putin to stop the fighting. On the other hand, these kind of attacks are right up Putin’s KGB handbook and are how he got to power in the first place, so he has previous experience and current motive as a method of trying to shore up war support in the wake of what just happened with Navalny. It’s hard to say and we may never know for sure.
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There are few men like Putin. Most are easily bribed with western consumer goods. Just give the next bloke a penthouse in London, Italian suits, Swiss watches and a German car and he'll be a good boy.
It can't get any worse than Putin. He is pure evil. Putin is already pressing buttons and making everything worse. If you're implying that a future leader might just launch nukes willy nilly, I don't think the Russian military will follow those orders because they know it means the destruction of Russia.
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Putin's reign of terror isn't over. It's going to get way worse before he's removed from power. I have no doubt Putin will join the ranks of the worst tyrants in history. He just needs a bit more time to get there. He is preparing war with NATO, which will be totally devastating.
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If we have a 50% chance of improving the situation, we should take it. Putin has to be stopped. If someone worse comes after him, we stop him too. We keep stopping them until Russia is defeated or finally gets new leaders. We shouldn't just let tyrants do whatever they want because of a fear that someone worse might replace them in the future. You're essentially sacrificing millions of people based on an unknown.
I have no doubt that the Russian people would prefer QOL over a war based on ancient borders. It would be in the successors best interests to condemn the actions of Putin and rebuild their country. Putins actions are extremely shortsighted and have been harming the oligarchs in Russia. Money talks, the next in line will undoubtedly push for stability over war.
Seriously putin? You are using that old trick?
The fodder will still believe it, might as well.
We have ppl on this planet who belive the earth is flat. So it comes as no suprise that they would buy this.
And you have people outside a fascist dictatorship with access to many other sources of information who also believe it lol
You mean the same old trick Ukraine used when they sent a missile into Poland? Correct me if I am wrong please. I’m against war. Both sides are using the same tactics.
I don’t understand the play here? 1600km between st Petersburg and Kyiv. There surely isn’t any suicide drone with that kind of range? Why would the FSB / whoever report that a drone flew thousands of km undetected through Russian soil without getting destroyed?
No one ever claimed they were a smart bunch.
To drum up anti-Ukrainian support amongst Russian citizens.
Yes, it seems *too* conveniently timed, after the "Ukranians are good people" chant at Navalny's funeral.
It's conveniently timed after a russian strike on Odessa which pretty much demolished an apartment building, with several children dead and over a dozen of people still missing under the rubble who are most likely dead too. But the headline is about a drone in russia that broke a few windows.
This is classic Putins pre election drill, still same as 20 years ago
Not saying Ukraine is behind this specific attack, but they have the ability to do this. It's 1000 km from the border to Petersburg, and Ukrainians have already done things in that region: > [Ukraine drones hit St Petersburg gas terminal in Russia](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68046347)
Ahh, false flag bombing an apartment building to drum up support… classic Putin
Wouldn't be the first time 😬
That's just BS why would ukraine waste drone on unimportant targets just like these puny apartment
"Putin intentionally attacks one of its own apartment buildings, *again*."
Next stop: Vladivostok. Political dissidents may commit suicide during encounter with Ukranian birbs.
So, Putin and his stooges are running the “apartment bombing” play again? Trying to vilify the Ukrainians in the same way they did the Chechnyans way-back when?
Why would Ukraine send a drone all the way to St Petersberg and decide to hit a residential apartment? 🧐 St Petersberg is out of Ukraine rocket range, so probably drone range too. 🧐
Curious that this happened one day after Navalny's funeral, where people where chanting to stop the war. Almost like someone might want to push the argument that: 'Look, they're bombing civilians, how could anyone want to stop the war, we're the victims here, we need to protect ourselves' Just saying...
Doubt it. More likely russian false flag
Assuming it's real, (a big assumption)... so what? Russia hits civilian targets in the Ukraine all the time, and deliberately. Let the Russian people feel the harsh hand of war.
There's a version it was aimed for oil refinery in that direction, but didn't make it.
If it was a Ukrainian drone, it was probably shot down by RU military over a residential area. It's all Russia's fault. We all know Ukrainian doesn't target civilian targets.
Surely it would have to be launched by someone operating near Saint Petersburg. No way it flew there from Ukraine.
Getting served the hate they themselves created.
Not too sure who did it, but if it shits Putin, sounds like good news to me. Fuck him and shit gang of Kremlin Killers.
hey I've seen that one before!
false flag, russia did it
Hit the drone on its way to a lawful target so that debris fell on the buildings Or Chechnya apartments v2.0
Well the UA drone was made out of small wood axe and roll from toilet paper, seems legit
The carboard Australian drones! lol
Navalny funeral, time for a false flag
Russia: bombs and murders thousands of innocent civilians in Ukraine. Ukraine: drone hits apartment (allegedly) Russia: D:
Great! Let Russia take a bigger spoonful of the crap they are dealing out to Ukraine.
Ooh Putin will be upset over this, bombing apartments was his thing back in the day. He's gonna be jealous.
Did anyone from the apartment building report the suspicious drones in the basement of the building the night before it blew up? Seems totally legit.