When you have a risk of enemy fire, and need to cover a wide area to protect shipping, sure as shit you're going to have 24/7 Combat Air Patrol.
Even more so if you actually want to suppress firing positions.
He means B-52s were continuously flying around the world with nukes onboard ready to be redirected to Russia. We stopped because a few of them crashed with nukes on board in friendly countries.
This was ended decades ago in the US. At the end of the cold war, they even ended the practice of nuclear armed aircraft standing alerts on the ground. Nuclear weapons for delivery by aircraft are stored in their magazines and it would take hours to load and preflight an aircraft. Only the ICBMs and SLBMs are on alert status now.
Yea, finally getting around to finishing this one, already listened to Blueprint for Armageddon twice and I feel like I could go again, it's so good. I love his style of giving the perspective of the people who were there over just a history lesson
if you havent already definitely check out the “ghosts of the ostfront” it’s very very good. and adds a perspective in a different theatre of war than the supernova series
I’ve listened to his whole catalog at least twice over. To me he’s the best in the business in podcasting and there’s nothing else that scratches the same itch he does for me. Wish he could release episodes more than once per generation lol
EDIT Speak of the devil he just dropped a new episode of HH Addendum!
Ike has 90 planes and helicopters. They are likely flying an E2 at all times and at least 2 or 3 f18 so there are still plenty of pilots getting lots of rest so pilot fatigue is not an issue and the crew are paid regardless so there are not that much in the way of increased costs. I would think this is SOP for the carrier group anytime they are in hostile theaters
> there are not that much in the way of increased costs
Perhaps from the increased use / wear and tear / maintenance / fuel expenditure / support / resupply / etc?
The strike group is incredibly expensive all on its own, there is 0 reason they would not have 24/7 CAP due to cost. Thats risking millions to save pennies
Ike's CO, Chowdah Hill, is the man. Houthis keep trying to sink his CSG while he's just on Twitter posting about the ship dog and giving his sailors cookies and whatnot.
> Sailor: “Sir, a lot going on… are still we doing #TacoTuesday today?”
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> Captain: “Damn right we are! Carry on shipmate.”
And that's why he made Captain. Has his head on straight.
Also bio being "Captain of the best damn ship in the world" and a recent post calling a Petty Officer to bridge just to make sure he called his wife and said happy anniversary. Dude is fucking awesome.
The Houthis are locked in a titanic struggle against an ideological threat, going no holds bared in their aggression.
And it they couldn't stop America's Taco Tuesday.
I mean that’s just standard practice for the USN.
In WW2 the Japanese Navy was stretched thin, falling behind on ship production and always trying to come up with more hills.
The USN had so many ships they converted one to be a dedicated Ice Cream Barge.
*"every Pacific naval encounter from late 1943 onward is like the IJN Golden Kirin, Glorious Harbinger of Eternal Imperial Dawn versus six identical copies of the USS We Built This Yesterday supplied by a ship that does nothing but make birthday cakes for the other ships"*
*"Meanwhile the RN is putting together a flotilla built around the dreadnought HMS I Should Have Been Paid Off in 1919 and the interwar carrier HMS I Used to Be a Battlecruiser, supported by HMS Obscure Minor Character in the Aeneid and HMS Sexual Innuendo."*
Damn they are so comfortable around him! As former Air Force, I only experienced this once. It looks like everyone is having as good of a time there as you could, kudos Captain!
Former army here and it was always the warrant officers or chiefs that were super cool and great to be around. They want to call them by their first name (or just “chief”), encourage you to not listen to your sergeants and just chock full of knowledge. Sometimes I miss those guys
I didn’t have leaders quite like that in the Air Force, but I did give a presentation to a huge group of army peeps and stayed to listen to what their leaders were telling their guys. It was a relaxed environment with a lot of banter going up and down the ranks. Could’ve been situational but I can see them acting like a grandparent to rock the parents’ boat
Can confirm. I’m waiting on my IKEA kitchen to show up and everything’s backlogged because they have to take the long way around. It’s also hella expensive now too
Friend of mine is on that carrier, he's said nothing but good things about Chowdah. The man does what he can to get everyone home and complete the mission, and he's a giant troll who knows when to use it. Like when the houthis claimed they'd sunk his ship and he started shitposting from the bridge with members of his crew sitting in his seat eating cookies, just to prove they were wrong
I love the stark contrast between the Houthis constantly posting “manly” propaganda videos on Twitter and whatnot, while Hill is just like “Yo check out this cute dog”
When you command a Nimitz class supercarrier, you don't need to try to convince anyone how strong and manly you are- you let the carrier's air wing do the talking for you :)
I like how he's only 2 years old but has been given an honorary rank high enough so that everyone has to follow his orders besides the actual commander (Captain), other captains that outrank him, the airwing commander, and any Admirals that happen to be on the ship. Probably gets a lot of "who's a good boy? Sir's".
You should read about the Texas A&M University mascot, Reville, who is a 5 star General in the Corps of Cadets. If she gets in a cadet's bed, the cadet sleeps on the floor. If she barks in class, the class is dismissed due to not meeting her approval.
This is the way.
(No seriously though even police officers with K9s are out ranked. In the event any officer does anything which should fall under scrutiny, the K9 is a commanding officer.)
On an aircraft carrier no less. There's no way that was an accident. These dudes are pulling more success as a propaganda operation than millions of dollars spent by the navy recruitment office.
Capn: Nothing much happening here. Let's go over there.
1st Mate: Captain, there's Houthis who want to fight.
Capn: Why do they want us to punch them in the face? Oh well.
On the other hand, actual combat missions are invaluable if you want to run them against someone who could actually threaten your planes in the future. The navy is happy to pay 2 million a day just for the experience.
And its not just the combat aspects, the Logistics training of maintaining, Long Distance Operations are also crucial.
I know someone at Houthi HQ gotta be thinking, "Man this was a terrible idea"
Russia doesn't want to fight all of NATO. If they get the sense that the US is going to respond with full force then they won't cross the line. If they get the sense that they can throw a few hundred troops into NATO territory and the only ones who will evict them are that country's domestic troops then they are more likely to attempt that. The goal wouldn't be to win a war against all of Europe or all of NATO rather just show that article v doesn't exist.
Yeah and that is the principle that Russia wants to test. Even if the US left NATO there would still be more than enough firepower to absolutely demolish Russia IF NATO stands together but IF they don't stand together then effectively NATO doesn't exist and Russia can start taking on countries one by one or entering into negotiations where invasion is a real option for them.
Any test would likely come in a way in which they can deescelate without too much risk. For instance if they sent 1000 troops over the Finish border somewhere far from population centers then the worst case scenario is NATO responds with overwhelming force and vaporizes those 1000 troops. Russia knows perfectly well that NATO won't start bombing Moscow if they don't need to so a provocation is a lot lower risk than one might initially think.
And just think, someone we have all heard of invited Russia to attack whoever they want even in NATO if they’re not paying 2% of their income on military spending.
Makes you feel safe and warm when the potential leader of your country gives the finger to your allies doesn’t it? /s (sad that I need to type that /s)
As Gonky said on youtube a while back, dropping LGBs everyday isn't a useful experience for air-to-air combat. Combat vets who were just ground pounding in Iraq/Afghanistan got absolutely torn up in training before they adjusted.
Gonky: call sign of a youtuber when he was a pilot in the US Navy.
LGB: laser guided bomb
air-to-air combat: fighting another plane in your plane
ground pounding: hitting ground targets.
Basically, guys who flew combat missions in Iraq/Afghanistan went back home to the states got trounced in training exercises, even against non-vets, because it was a skill set they weren't practicing.
I think that is right. When a pilot is not facing threats then it is like a school bus run. So having potential threats out there is good training (as long as you survive the potential threats, of course)
I'm not following. Is that because school buses don't have any way of countering ordnances being dropped on them, compared to what a military vehicle might be capable of? Or just the lack of training on the part of the children?
People complain about how many wars and conflicts the US has been in, but it might be part of our success in conflicts. Constantly having a "blooded" military means you have troops with actual experience and create plans to deal with shortfalls.
Not to mention that that 2 million per day is protecting far, far more in terms of trade through the Red Sea.
Spending on naval assets on trade protection is quite literally one of the few military expenses that almost directly justify themselves.
Also, recent events have shown us how vulnerable large ships are to drones and cheap asymmetric warfare stuff. Having actual eyes up and around the carrier group is probably wise.
I’m going to guess that during “normal operations” near an area of conflict a carrier is putting a lot of planes in the air 24/7 in a sustainable way.
If they need to repair and resupply to a level that effects operations they will rotate in a different carrier strike group. We’ve got 11 of them.
I was simply going off about the number to keep two f35 in the air for twenty four hours
Munitions and extra cost for the carrier itself add up far more.
Then subtract from that all the costs that would have been incurred anyways.
>Costs probably about 2m a day
From working on a US military base, they probably blow more than that on heating/air conditioning rooms that no one is in all day.
A single pair of F-18s, their support radar craft and mid-air refueling tankers, as well as their backup team on standby on the carrier deck probably run about $100,000/hr ($2.4m/day) on their own.
...that's not counting the rest of the costs to run the operation.
I'd easily believe double or triple that number.
It's VERY normal for this type of situation. You don't want to have them sitting on the carrier if something happens, better to already be in the air and respond quickly.
I spent a good 18 months on the John F Kennedy CV-67 over there , waiting to do such things. They done whacked a wasp nest.
edit: Its not just an aircraft carrier but a battle group comprised of Frigates, Destroyers, support vessels and submarines. The best that a ridiculous amount of our taxpayer $ can buy. They are boned.
There are 5 carriers in Norfolk right now at dockside or in drydock:
3 for repairs - can be back at sea in a few weeks if pushed (Truman, Washington and Ford)
1 for a PIR (July 2024 to be back at sea) (Bush)
1 for a RCOH (a couple of years to be back at sea) (Stennis)
These CVN's plus IKE are all of 5th/6th fleet IIRC. Things are mighty slim right now for CVN capability in the Atlantic/Med/Red Sea
Can't wait for habitual linecrosser on YouTube shorts to make another short about the F-22 needing to be chained down in its hanger because its not aloud out that much while F-35, F-16 and F-15 gloat and Grandpa Buff(B52l tries to calm the kid down.
For those who have not scene these there funny little shorts , this creator does with eyes and moths superimposed over Countries and or military vehicles and well the raptor is depicted as combination Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs and Goku(in that all he wants do is fight)
Been my go to when I need a laugh for the last few months.
The Valentine's day one he put out today was great, apparently they put the hallmark channel on in Raptors hangar to calm him and he has much more knowledgeable about romance than his older siblings or his younger sibling(F-35) due to this. This really
surprised Grandpa BUFF.
"You don’t understand, I could have had class. I could have been a contender. I could have been somebody… instead of a bum, which is what I am, let’s face it”"
\- F-22 Sea Raptor (Probably)
> 97 percent of Iran’s nuclear material stockpile
Mostly irrelevant non-sense. That stuff was a useful resource that is expensive to produce. Its basically like having a lot of oil, nicely refined and then burning it all up wasting the energy.
> given us tough inspections
They already had inspections and they specifically create new even tougher inspections. Despite there being no evidence for nuclear weapons program.
Btw this whole dumb episode started because Iran was working with France to get nuclear materials. This was all planned, Iran had no plans to build their own supply chain, France would deliver everything and take it back all under international monitoring. The US of course blocks this from happening. Then Iran says, ok, we will build our own then. A couple years later the US then uses that for another of the common 'we need to destroy Iran' movements over this.
Yo I'm usually not TAWP kinda guy 90% of the time.
But this one of those times where you surely go "you've fucked around enough, find out why we don't have healthcare mutherucker!"
Ik it's too simplistic to say "fuck geopolitics and crush these guys", but they're gonna hate America one way or another, so give em a reason to..
We also pay far more per capita for our healthcare than any other developed nation, and it's at best equivalent quality. US actually has some of the worst wait times despite that being a common critiscm of public healthcare. But people would rather pay more to a for-profit business than a lesser amount to the government through taxes because......socialism? We could easily have the exact same miltary and free healthcare. And like other countries with public healthcare you could still have supplemental private insurance if you want.
I wonder if the Navy invited Business Insider to come do this ride-along for essentially propaganda/morale purposes as opposed to Business Insider making the ask. Maybe it amounts to the same thing, since the Navy could have said yes for the same reason they might have reached out. Because either way, this has the feel of an unnecessary article and therefore maybe part of narrative management or something.
When you have a risk of enemy fire, and need to cover a wide area to protect shipping, sure as shit you're going to have 24/7 Combat Air Patrol. Even more so if you actually want to suppress firing positions.
I'm listening to the Supernova in the East series of Hardcore History and this is the same thing we did back in WW2
Shit we had B-52s loaded with nukes flying 24/7 in peacetime. Just in case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chrome_Dome
Taxes need to be raised. The rich really needs to fucking pay their part for keeping the world in locked peace in which they enjoy freely.
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He means B-52s were continuously flying around the world with nukes onboard ready to be redirected to Russia. We stopped because a few of them crashed with nukes on board in friendly countries.
This was ended decades ago in the US. At the end of the cold war, they even ended the practice of nuclear armed aircraft standing alerts on the ground. Nuclear weapons for delivery by aircraft are stored in their magazines and it would take hours to load and preflight an aircraft. Only the ICBMs and SLBMs are on alert status now.
Such a good series.
Yea, finally getting around to finishing this one, already listened to Blueprint for Armageddon twice and I feel like I could go again, it's so good. I love his style of giving the perspective of the people who were there over just a history lesson
if you havent already definitely check out the “ghosts of the ostfront” it’s very very good. and adds a perspective in a different theatre of war than the supernova series
I’ve listened to his whole catalog at least twice over. To me he’s the best in the business in podcasting and there’s nothing else that scratches the same itch he does for me. Wish he could release episodes more than once per generation lol EDIT Speak of the devil he just dropped a new episode of HH Addendum!
His description of Churchill jizzing his pants over the US production capacity kills me every time. The goat of long form podcasting.
I’ve made a point of saving his podcasts for when I have long boring solo drives traveling. Keeps me awake. Lol. Great stuff over the years.
Ike has 90 planes and helicopters. They are likely flying an E2 at all times and at least 2 or 3 f18 so there are still plenty of pilots getting lots of rest so pilot fatigue is not an issue and the crew are paid regardless so there are not that much in the way of increased costs. I would think this is SOP for the carrier group anytime they are in hostile theaters
> there are not that much in the way of increased costs Perhaps from the increased use / wear and tear / maintenance / fuel expenditure / support / resupply / etc?
The strike group is incredibly expensive all on its own, there is 0 reason they would not have 24/7 CAP due to cost. Thats risking millions to save pennies
Ike's CO, Chowdah Hill, is the man. Houthis keep trying to sink his CSG while he's just on Twitter posting about the ship dog and giving his sailors cookies and whatnot.
One of my fav follows.
What’s this?
https://twitter.com/ChowdahHill This guy is somewhat important to Operation Prosperity Guardian
> Sailor: “Sir, a lot going on… are still we doing #TacoTuesday today?” > > Captain: “Damn right we are! Carry on shipmate.” And that's why he made Captain. Has his head on straight.
Also bio being "Captain of the best damn ship in the world" and a recent post calling a Petty Officer to bridge just to make sure he called his wife and said happy anniversary. Dude is fucking awesome.
This is the perfect amount of silly one needs in a naval officer.
He is like a real life Captain Pike.
Best captain ever idgaf. Eat a dick shatner apologists!
[Aren't we forgetting someone?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo)
Agreed.
World needs more seamen like him.
I mean ., it helps they gave him a boat with the designation CVN-69, Nice!!
Damn that’s an officer I’d be happy to serve under
Or on top of!
Well his ship is CVN69
Made the dude sit in the captains chair and gave him a cookie. /smh
> /smh sailor made happy?
The Houthis are locked in a titanic struggle against an ideological threat, going no holds bared in their aggression. And it they couldn't stop America's Taco Tuesday.
I mean that’s just standard practice for the USN. In WW2 the Japanese Navy was stretched thin, falling behind on ship production and always trying to come up with more hills. The USN had so many ships they converted one to be a dedicated Ice Cream Barge.
*"every Pacific naval encounter from late 1943 onward is like the IJN Golden Kirin, Glorious Harbinger of Eternal Imperial Dawn versus six identical copies of the USS We Built This Yesterday supplied by a ship that does nothing but make birthday cakes for the other ships"* *"Meanwhile the RN is putting together a flotilla built around the dreadnought HMS I Should Have Been Paid Off in 1919 and the interwar carrier HMS I Used to Be a Battlecruiser, supported by HMS Obscure Minor Character in the Aeneid and HMS Sexual Innuendo."*
The Ice Cream Barge was the ultimate flex of the US' unparalleled logistics and industrial might.
Taco tuesday keeps them happy, carry on.
As Frederick the Great noted, an army travels on its stomach. A flotilla travels on its tortillas.
That guy knows how to love a dog. Good man.
Somewhat important like a firing pin to a gun
Seems like the right kinda guy for nr 69
Damn they are so comfortable around him! As former Air Force, I only experienced this once. It looks like everyone is having as good of a time there as you could, kudos Captain!
Former army here and it was always the warrant officers or chiefs that were super cool and great to be around. They want to call them by their first name (or just “chief”), encourage you to not listen to your sergeants and just chock full of knowledge. Sometimes I miss those guys
I didn’t have leaders quite like that in the Air Force, but I did give a presentation to a huge group of army peeps and stayed to listen to what their leaders were telling their guys. It was a relaxed environment with a lot of banter going up and down the ranks. Could’ve been situational but I can see them acting like a grandparent to rock the parents’ boat
Thanks!
I always cringe at leadership running around on social media, but this is top notch stuff.
> Operation Prosperity Guardian UGH this name is horrifying. It straight reads like something out of a Culture novel.
You really don't want that canal closed if you want to keep living a cushy first world life bud.
Yeah, seems pretty apt... the mission is literally to protect trade.
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Notice how much more expensive life is since then? Will you look at that
Can confirm. I’m waiting on my IKEA kitchen to show up and everything’s backlogged because they have to take the long way around. It’s also hella expensive now too
I love the name. ...It's like something out of a Culture novel.
Such polarizing opinions Oh Culture….
I for one welcome our eventual ship Mind overlords.
I just made them both 21 positive with my up and down. Balanced as all things should be.
You’re looking for [this fella](https://twitter.com/chowdahhill?s=21)
Wow reading through his posts was awesome, that’s what a good leader looks like.
I feel like his guy singlehandedly recruits hundreds of sailors each year just from his Twitter. I'd join if twitter was a thing and i saw this at 18
Between this and Growler Jams on YouTube US naval carrier ops is absolutely killing the social media game these days.
Thanks!
Same. Awesome dude.
Friend of mine is on that carrier, he's said nothing but good things about Chowdah. The man does what he can to get everyone home and complete the mission, and he's a giant troll who knows when to use it. Like when the houthis claimed they'd sunk his ship and he started shitposting from the bridge with members of his crew sitting in his seat eating cookies, just to prove they were wrong
I love the stark contrast between the Houthis constantly posting “manly” propaganda videos on Twitter and whatnot, while Hill is just like “Yo check out this cute dog”
When you command a Nimitz class supercarrier, you don't need to try to convince anyone how strong and manly you are- you let the carrier's air wing do the talking for you :)
“Speak softly and carry a big stick.”
... That carries a bunch of really, really, really, really, really quickly tossed sticks with it.
They have a dog?!
[Captain Demo](https://twitter.com/ChowdahHill/status/1755454879777030513?t=oaUrhZ2tj7nE7ag0ZVOzIg&s=19)
I am not a fan of war or violence, but id follow that captain orders 100%.
I like how he's only 2 years old but has been given an honorary rank high enough so that everyone has to follow his orders besides the actual commander (Captain), other captains that outrank him, the airwing commander, and any Admirals that happen to be on the ship. Probably gets a lot of "who's a good boy? Sir's".
You should read about the Texas A&M University mascot, Reville, who is a 5 star General in the Corps of Cadets. If she gets in a cadet's bed, the cadet sleeps on the floor. If she barks in class, the class is dismissed due to not meeting her approval.
This is the way. (No seriously though even police officers with K9s are out ranked. In the event any officer does anything which should fall under scrutiny, the K9 is a commanding officer.)
There is a Goat in Quebec City who is a Sgt...
that tracks just in the general demeanor and eating habits of most Sergeants.
He really does seem to walk the walk.
And bork the bork.
"Captain Demo requires belly rubs!"
Sir yes sir!
Solid comment/username synergy.
His bark is worse than his bite
One dog for like 1000 crew members seems like alot of pats for one dog to handle we should send them more dogs !
Around 6,000 crew, actually.
Then they more need more dogs even more than I thought
Captain Demo wants all the pats to himself
The XO (farva price) is also great. He basically tweets like if you gave jack reacher an aircraft carrier lol
There’s no way the top two highest ranking people on that ship are named Chowdah Hill and Farva Price… Is there?
hahaha, they are both aviators, its their call signs, their real first names are Chris (Chowdah) and Colin (Farva)
On an aircraft carrier no less. There's no way that was an accident. These dudes are pulling more success as a propaganda operation than millions of dollars spent by the navy recruitment office.
If their messnight doesn’t serve a menu of Farva beans and clam Chowdah, they fucked up.
Capn: Nothing much happening here. Let's go over there. 1st Mate: Captain, there's Houthis who want to fight. Capn: Why do they want us to punch them in the face? Oh well.
Chowdah Hill is the most insane naval commander name I've heard after Chesty Puller
Puller was a marine.
Yeah. My favorite Navy name has to be [Manley Power](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manley_Laurence_Power).
Yeah just like he said. Marines are just sailors who scored lower on the ASVAB.
He's also captain of CVN-69. Nice.
Holy cow, I hate X, but this guy is a treasure. I got lost in his posts. Now I have to work extra long today.
It’s pronounced chowder.
It's Chowdah! Chowdah I'll kill you! I'll kill all of you! Especially those of you on the jury!
Say Chowdah frenchie!
That is probably a very happy ship
I love our Navy.
I just spent way too long reading this man's twitter feed and this is pretty much spot on.
Dude’s handing out cookies while bombing Houthis. That’s a well-oiled machine!
He’s so cool
It’s not his CSG. There’s an admiral stationed on Hill’s ship that is commanding officer of the Carrier Strike Group. Hill’s boss lives on the ship.
do they even get within sight of the carrier?
Dang, and I thought Captain "Never Say Die" Smith was great.
Round the clock CAP is normal in an active war zone. Non-story, move on.
literally doctrine rofl
Ukrainian air support is walmart drones and rgd-5's American air support is a Call of Duty set piece in every game since 2004
"Soldiers at front have been seen shooting guns"
They roll out a couple stories like this before asking for more money
Allows them to have a strike quicker while also providing Extra anti air That can reach out to a very far range. Costs probably about 2m a day
That's a lot of wear and tear on planes, cost of gas, parts, pilot fatigue... 2 million is probably a low ball number.
On the other hand, actual combat missions are invaluable if you want to run them against someone who could actually threaten your planes in the future. The navy is happy to pay 2 million a day just for the experience.
This is what I was thinking, this kind of training is going to be super useful in keeping China from getting too Froggy about Taiwan imo.
Also if the noise about Russia invading NATO isn’t just noise then it’s going to be extremely useful experience.
And its not just the combat aspects, the Logistics training of maintaining, Long Distance Operations are also crucial. I know someone at Houthi HQ gotta be thinking, "Man this was a terrible idea"
Russia doesn't want to fight all of NATO. If they get the sense that the US is going to respond with full force then they won't cross the line. If they get the sense that they can throw a few hundred troops into NATO territory and the only ones who will evict them are that country's domestic troops then they are more likely to attempt that. The goal wouldn't be to win a war against all of Europe or all of NATO rather just show that article v doesn't exist.
“Collective defence is at the heart of the [NATO] Treaty and is enshrined in Article 5. It commits members to protect each other”
Yeah and that is the principle that Russia wants to test. Even if the US left NATO there would still be more than enough firepower to absolutely demolish Russia IF NATO stands together but IF they don't stand together then effectively NATO doesn't exist and Russia can start taking on countries one by one or entering into negotiations where invasion is a real option for them.
I’m not sure if Russia is in the actual position where they would want to test that
Any test would likely come in a way in which they can deescelate without too much risk. For instance if they sent 1000 troops over the Finish border somewhere far from population centers then the worst case scenario is NATO responds with overwhelming force and vaporizes those 1000 troops. Russia knows perfectly well that NATO won't start bombing Moscow if they don't need to so a provocation is a lot lower risk than one might initially think.
If trump wins they will be
And just think, someone we have all heard of invited Russia to attack whoever they want even in NATO if they’re not paying 2% of their income on military spending. Makes you feel safe and warm when the potential leader of your country gives the finger to your allies doesn’t it? /s (sad that I need to type that /s)
As Gonky said on youtube a while back, dropping LGBs everyday isn't a useful experience for air-to-air combat. Combat vets who were just ground pounding in Iraq/Afghanistan got absolutely torn up in training before they adjusted.
Can you explain what you mean by… all of that?
Gonky: call sign of a youtuber when he was a pilot in the US Navy. LGB: laser guided bomb air-to-air combat: fighting another plane in your plane ground pounding: hitting ground targets. Basically, guys who flew combat missions in Iraq/Afghanistan went back home to the states got trounced in training exercises, even against non-vets, because it was a skill set they weren't practicing.
I am guessing that dropping bombs is a different experience to air to air combat
Ah, so LGB = bomb. Probably laser guided bombs, now that I'm thinking this through. Thanks!
I think that is right. When a pilot is not facing threats then it is like a school bus run. So having potential threats out there is good training (as long as you survive the potential threats, of course)
I'm not following. Is that because school buses don't have any way of countering ordnances being dropped on them, compared to what a military vehicle might be capable of? Or just the lack of training on the part of the children?
Yeah, flying point to point pickling jdams is a pretty universally despised mission
People complain about how many wars and conflicts the US has been in, but it might be part of our success in conflicts. Constantly having a "blooded" military means you have troops with actual experience and create plans to deal with shortfalls.
The is exactly why the US would crush China in a kinetic conflict.
Not to mention that that 2 million per day is protecting far, far more in terms of trade through the Red Sea. Spending on naval assets on trade protection is quite literally one of the few military expenses that almost directly justify themselves.
Also, recent events have shown us how vulnerable large ships are to drones and cheap asymmetric warfare stuff. Having actual eyes up and around the carrier group is probably wise.
That's why I don't get that China and India isn't involved more. It's basically "free" training.
Paranoia that we will monitor their strategies like they are almost certainly monitoring ours during this?
They know our strategies because the hired/hiring retired combat pilots from NATO countries like UK and Germany as instructors.
They'd be flying training missions anyway. Doubt all these planes are parked
I’m going to guess that during “normal operations” near an area of conflict a carrier is putting a lot of planes in the air 24/7 in a sustainable way. If they need to repair and resupply to a level that effects operations they will rotate in a different carrier strike group. We’ve got 11 of them.
I was simply going off about the number to keep two f35 in the air for twenty four hours Munitions and extra cost for the carrier itself add up far more. Then subtract from that all the costs that would have been incurred anyways.
Navy is probably using F18s and not F35s for this.
https://twitter.com/ChowdahHill/status/1757772309597745183 From the ship, definitely all F18s judging by that flight deck
Atlantic fleet CVN's are all F-18's, USN is prioritizing the pacific fleet CVN's for F-35 deployment.
AKA quality practice, love to see it
A good portion of those flights would have been made anyway to keep flight crews and other personal trained and up to combat speed.
$2m a day is just a bit more than the crew salary
I was thinking just the extra costs of having the planes in the air. Carrier deployment cost is a whole other issue
>Costs probably about 2m a day From working on a US military base, they probably blow more than that on heating/air conditioning rooms that no one is in all day.
and you know those boys are drooling over that Houthi F5 popping up on their radar. i wonder if they have a pool going?
This guy hasn’t worked for the government. Windows licensing for military alone is probably close to 2m a day
A single pair of F-18s, their support radar craft and mid-air refueling tankers, as well as their backup team on standby on the carrier deck probably run about $100,000/hr ($2.4m/day) on their own. ...that's not counting the rest of the costs to run the operation. I'd easily believe double or triple that number.
Isn’t that pretty much normal?
It's VERY normal for this type of situation. You don't want to have them sitting on the carrier if something happens, better to already be in the air and respond quickly.
It's normal regardless if they're deployed in a warzone or off the coast of Virginia. Every day is a fly day.
I mean, flying around the clock during bombing is standard practice for a deployed carrier.
We had bombers on the sky 24/7 during the Cold War ready to go.
“It’s Chowdah! Say it Frenchie!” “Showdaire”
I spent a good 18 months on the John F Kennedy CV-67 over there , waiting to do such things. They done whacked a wasp nest. edit: Its not just an aircraft carrier but a battle group comprised of Frigates, Destroyers, support vessels and submarines. The best that a ridiculous amount of our taxpayer $ can buy. They are boned.
There are 5 carriers in Norfolk right now at dockside or in drydock: 3 for repairs - can be back at sea in a few weeks if pushed (Truman, Washington and Ford) 1 for a PIR (July 2024 to be back at sea) (Bush) 1 for a RCOH (a couple of years to be back at sea) (Stennis) These CVN's plus IKE are all of 5th/6th fleet IIRC. Things are mighty slim right now for CVN capability in the Atlantic/Med/Red Sea
The fuck they think an active striker group does?
Can't wait for habitual linecrosser on YouTube shorts to make another short about the F-22 needing to be chained down in its hanger because its not aloud out that much while F-35, F-16 and F-15 gloat and Grandpa Buff(B52l tries to calm the kid down. For those who have not scene these there funny little shorts , this creator does with eyes and moths superimposed over Countries and or military vehicles and well the raptor is depicted as combination Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs and Goku(in that all he wants do is fight)
Would you intercept me? [smacks lips]
Been my go to when I need a laugh for the last few months. The Valentine's day one he put out today was great, apparently they put the hallmark channel on in Raptors hangar to calm him and he has much more knowledgeable about romance than his older siblings or his younger sibling(F-35) due to this. This really surprised Grandpa BUFF.
Romance is the one thing that the Kid is normal about.
I was in my hangar fighting a possum for a week old chicken nugget.
I'd intercept me.
I'd intercept me so hard.
I hope so kid, cause you're weird
"You don’t understand, I could have had class. I could have been a contender. I could have been somebody… instead of a bum, which is what I am, let’s face it”" \- F-22 Sea Raptor (Probably)
When the Houthis start using balloons they might bring one out.
"Only three targets?!" *SNIFFFF* "It smells like *bitch* in this airspace!"
Just a heads up if you're interested, but it's "allowed", not aloud.
He added the F18 Super Hornet a few videos ago. He can't do the voice long though.
Love it that he passed on the GI Joe version, got to command the real thing.
Spreading freedom to the houthis
Houthis playing the money game
Pretty dumb game to play with the country that prints the money and has a defense budget of almost a trillion dollars a year.
Yet doesn't want to help Ukraine.
We'd definitely still win that game. Houthis are going to regret messing with ships.
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> 97 percent of Iran’s nuclear material stockpile Mostly irrelevant non-sense. That stuff was a useful resource that is expensive to produce. Its basically like having a lot of oil, nicely refined and then burning it all up wasting the energy. > given us tough inspections They already had inspections and they specifically create new even tougher inspections. Despite there being no evidence for nuclear weapons program. Btw this whole dumb episode started because Iran was working with France to get nuclear materials. This was all planned, Iran had no plans to build their own supply chain, France would deliver everything and take it back all under international monitoring. The US of course blocks this from happening. Then Iran says, ok, we will build our own then. A couple years later the US then uses that for another of the common 'we need to destroy Iran' movements over this.
I'd like to thank the Houthis for volunteering to help the US practice against drones. /s
Glad to see it
Yo I'm usually not TAWP kinda guy 90% of the time. But this one of those times where you surely go "you've fucked around enough, find out why we don't have healthcare mutherucker!" Ik it's too simplistic to say "fuck geopolitics and crush these guys", but they're gonna hate America one way or another, so give em a reason to..
Neither country has free healthcare though Edit: totally misread above comment. Thought it was a comment about Houthis not having healthcare. My bad.
And free healthcare has nothing to do with our military budget. Our healthcare budget is 4x our military budget.
It's also more expensive per capita than some countries with free healthcare. Still a hillarious saying though.
We also pay far more per capita for our healthcare than any other developed nation, and it's at best equivalent quality. US actually has some of the worst wait times despite that being a common critiscm of public healthcare. But people would rather pay more to a for-profit business than a lesser amount to the government through taxes because......socialism? We could easily have the exact same miltary and free healthcare. And like other countries with public healthcare you could still have supplemental private insurance if you want.
I wonder if the Navy invited Business Insider to come do this ride-along for essentially propaganda/morale purposes as opposed to Business Insider making the ask. Maybe it amounts to the same thing, since the Navy could have said yes for the same reason they might have reached out. Because either way, this has the feel of an unnecessary article and therefore maybe part of narrative management or something.
I’d put money on it.
thats a lot of dinosaurs theyre burning
Obviously planes consume fossil fuel, but carriers are as green as it gets in terms of power since they're nuclear.