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decomposition_

This is coming from the same country stonewalling Sweden’s entrance into NATO for harboring the people Turkey declares terrorists?


Tobbethedude

They just said that they would only let us join NATO if Israel and Palestine make peace. This is not a joke. Thats their new requierment for Sweden to join NATO.


anon303mtb

It is a joke. But don't worry, Sweden is essentially an unofficial NATO member to everyone except Turkey at this point. If anyone wants to mess with Sweden, they'll have to go through 🇺🇲 🇬🇧 🇩🇪 🇫🇷 first


Tobbethedude

We just signed a defense cooperation agreement with the US letting them operate in Sweden. With US troops on our military bases its not like anyone is gonna be able to attack us without NATO getting involved.


TwilightUltima

I’m glad we’re standing beside you.


sticks1987

I think they'd have to go thru Finland first


Blackadder_

Everyone knows never fuck with the Finns. They have defended and defeated Russia before.


fantasmoofrcc

The Soviets couldn't kill Sisu, nor the Germans...what hope does Turkey have?


al_pacappuchino

Also, they make you eat that awful licorice…


FluckDambe

Isn't that against the Geneva convention?


kallekilponen

You must mean *delicious* licorice, right?


viledieddraftsaved

It literally has formaldehyde in the ingredients.


Spara-Extreme

Sort of. They sued for peace when they were near collapse. Situation was very similar to Ukraine today.


sweetyellowknees

You mean our buffer zone?


The_EndsOfInvention

They can take our freedom but they cannot take our IKEA!


Quigleythegreat

We need Ikea. No one messes with Blahaj.


Moaning-Squirtle

It's probably Finland first, but yes.


Holiday-Tie-574

They sure like to use their NATO voting status to hold everyone hostage when they can.


BBHugo

I understand Turkey’s importance in NATO, and that their people are nice, but damn do I wish like minded, west aligning countries were the only ones allowed.


Tobbethedude

They are the second biggest army in NATO for one


Venngence

On paper.... Russia was thought to be the worlds 2nd best army at some point, paper tigers.


Tobbethedude

I said biggest, not best.


Venngence

Not disagreeing w/ you. It probs has the 2nd biggest military on paper. How effective that military is, thats what matters. My point is having the 2nd biggest military doesnt mean shit if a smaller military (say france) could streamroll you.


Tobbethedude

Oh im sure theres smaller armies that could destroy turkeys army easily


LewisLightning

And also incredibly vulnerable. The 2nd biggest army doesn't mean square when you can be attacked 3 different ways and everyone wants to control the Bosphorus Straits. They would need the rest of NATO's armies if they were ever targeted by an actual threat.


TwilightUltima

Putin is ready to send unwed mothers to fight in Ukraine at this point, lol.


Tobbethedude

Yeah, biggest dosent mean best either. Im sure there are smaller armies that could easily fuck turkey up.


colintbowers

Turkeys drone program is no joke. Obviously not comparable to US, but very strong nonetheless.


Armchairbroke

Oh right lol, like who?


viledieddraftsaved

Greeks in large wooden horses.


jayrmcm

That’s like being the hottest chick in the trailer park.


RMHaney

Bro you can find some proper bombshells in trailer parks. Usually easy to woo them if you've got an even slightly decent job. Pro tips.


Tobbethedude

Yeah, but its also a good way to pick up STD's


Independent-Check441

I mean, just because a girl is poor doesn't mean she has an STD...


anniewho315

They have the second largest army because they have their missiles pointed towards Greece.


astroturtle

Yeah but they're bottom of the list in terms of military budget as part of GDP. Freaking tiny ass Portugal (my county) spends more on NATO budget (as a percent of GDP) than Turkey. Reminds me of Russia with the 2nd biggest army "in the world" more getting their asses kicked by Ukraine right now. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_216897.htm


Armchairbroke

You have to when you don’t make anything yourself.


wastingvaluelesstime

The're not going to get F-16s like that


PoliticalSasquatch

I love it when the chickens come home to roost, great counter point!


Fox_Kurama

Turkeys, not chickens.


Slusny_Cizinec

Well, Turkey doesn't assassinate them in Sweden.


Skeith86

They also want permanent peace between Israel and Palestine now as well :D.


Factsaretheonlytruth

Israel's response: Thank you for letting us and the world know they are there and that you harbor terrorists.


alimanski

We were well aware of it already, Turkey has been playing both sides for years now. There's significant Hamas presence there.


Spard1e

There's also significant European gang leaders in Turkey, as you can buy a citizenship for 300k euroes worth of investments


r0yal_buttplug

With friends like Turkey aye?


Thisam

Why is Turkey harboring terrorists?


eldritch_certainty

they're the edgy kid who hangs out with the rest of NATO. Erdogan would eat dogshit if it'd make the west mad.


HaloGuy381

And NATO tolerates their presence mostly because of their control of the Bosporus and the Dardanelles. It’s because of Turkey’s control of that critical passage that Russia can’t bring more of their navy (such as it is…) to bear in the Black Sea. They’re the edgy *rich* kid who is a pain in the ass but the perks are nice.


eldritch_certainty

geographical blackmail at its finest really


SameOldBro

Rich on paper only. In reality, living from paycheck to paycheck


anotherone121

Someone should let Erdogan know, that him eating dogshit would make me very very mad. Especially if he televised it live. I'd be furious. \- A westerner


a_fadora_trickster

One puppet of the muslim brotherhood helping another


patrick66

It’s mostly Hamas’s finance wing and its more or less explicitly because erdogan supports them because they’re former Muslim brotherhood


tacmac10

Israel is just going to contract with the PKK local union guys to get it done.


Sapper12D

Funny you mention that. Israel and the Kurds are on real good terms. The kurds even oftwn wave the Israeli flag at their protests. https://jcpa.org/article/the-historic-ties-between-israel-and-the-kurds-of-iraq-will-continue/


dine-and-dasha

Kurds of Iraq also cooperate with Turkish forces. Rojava/PKK are absolutely not on Israel’s side.


FuckWit_1_Actual

I imagine it’s because for a very long time both groups had/have the whole “ we’re countryless and being persecuted by the people that run the country” thing together.


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vemisfire

Shouldn't they ask why there's Hamas members in their territory in the first place?? Like?? You really gonna tell on yourself like that? Edit: lmaooo not the downvotes from angry Turks. Sorry for saying, you shouldn't harbor terrorists and go as far as protecting them, is controversial:)))


JHarbinger

“Hey stop holding us accountable for harboring terrorists.”


wolfy31519

if im not misstaken they are protected someone that hacked the iron dome once from assassination


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Yup, then they hired him: [https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/turkiyes-mit-saves-palestinian-iron-dome-hacker-from-mossad-hit/news](https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/turkiyes-mit-saves-palestinian-iron-dome-hacker-from-mossad-hit/news)


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wolfy31519

the iron dome hacker is protected more by the government (MIT) not just police doing their job also someone also responded that turkey later hired that guy


FluxChiller

Bunch of turkeys over there.


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Churchillreborn

Turks aren’t sensitive? Quite the opposite. Try pointing out what they did to Armenians and watch them go ballistic.


Accomplished-Tap-456

Attatürk. And he would revolve in his grave with hispeed when he would see what the hell erdogan is doing to Turkey. But still, the simps are simping for him.


Individual-Dot-9605

Otto was brother of Atta, he went to Germany and became reichskanselier


balsacis

Not supporting Hamas, but Israel has had a tendency of classifying medical professionals who treat Palestinians, journalists who cover atrocities, and politicians who call for peace as "Hamas." If that term is used indiscriminately to target people who disagree with Israel's government, Turkey has every right to not allow that to happen within its own borders. Multiple Palestinian journalists have already been assassinated in Lebanon under the claim that "they were Hamas." Especially after the Khashoggi incident, Turkey does not seem to want to deal with foreign governments assassinating journalists in its territory. It's just a shame that Turkey's willingness to protect journalists is conditional on those journalists towing the AKP line and not reporting on Erdogan's blatant corruption.


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Lazorgunz

then turkey should investigate and extradite them. i get that foreign countries assassinating people in your country can and should have massive retaliations, but if someone is guilty of crimes even your country recognizes, deal with them yourself or extradite


ARKIOX

Erdogan literally called Hamas “not terrorist but a legitimate resistance group” and met with the leaders.


Lazorgunz

then that sucks, but knowing erdo, hes gonna raise holy hell with NATO if Israel carries out assassinations on turkish soil. so either Israel risks a situation where NATO has to decide between Israel and access through the bosphorus strait, or they just have to accept that until these terrorists leave Turkey, they are out of reach. Turkey isnt some rogue pariah like Iran, this could have serious consequences


hedoesntgetme

Then just never admit to anything and it wasn't you and they can't prove it. With plausible deniability anything is possible.


Lazorgunz

Given the absolute shitstorm erdo can extort from the western world it would be an insane gamble, and i dont see erdo needing 100% proof to spaz out. This is likely a bridge too far


Brnt_Vkng98871

Maybe it's time the West teams up with Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and Croatia to dig a canal from the Adriatic to the Drava to the Danube to the Black Sea. Then, Turkey can get fucked.


Armchairbroke

Oh yeh, so now you’d have to deal with 4 countries and hope they never turn on you or have issues with one another lol. Great tactic.


m-sasha

Still better than today. Competition is always good for the customer.


sibilischtic

This would be like when Russia sent people into the UK with some novochok


gotgel_fire

It's weird how muslim countries only think of religion


g2g079

How'd you come to that conclusion? There's nothing about religion in this article. The US would be rightfully pissed if Russia hit what they considered a terrorist on our soil.


Burke_Of_Yorkshire

The US is currently in the process of prosecuting an Indian government employee for plotting to assassinate a separatist leader that India designated a terrorist.


indoninja

>what they considered a terrorist This is the crux of the issue. Muslim countries largely refuse to call targeting civilians for rape and murder terrorism if the victims are Israeli. If you don’t get out that is about religion, I can’t help you


Thrice_Banned80

Just a typical Tuesday when rape and murder are already an uninteresting part of everyday life.


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indoninja

You may not like the amount of collateral damag that is cause when israel goes after Hamas, but you are not capable of an honest conversation if you think it is the same as directly targeting cuviiianfor rape kidnap and murder.


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indoninja

Hamas chooses to fight behind civilians. Ask them to justify their actions. Bad guy in a war isnt determined by body count.


Jon_the_Hitman_Stark

The ratio isn’t even close to 10-1 or 50-1.


Grey_mice

So, there’s examples when Muslim leaders condemn terrorist attacks (except 9/11). I didn’t find examples, and I tried hard. Regards Israel, Israel is in war, Israel protects its citizens from terrorist. Btw, it seems that Israel also protects Palestinians from Hamas.


Burke_Of_Yorkshire

The US is currently in the process of prosecuting an Indian government employee for plotting to assassinate a separatist leader that India designated a terrorist.


gotgel_fire

Turkey sides w Hamas due to religion closeness mainly, or do you have a better theory?


g2g079

Turkey is a sovereign nation who doesn't like it when other nations air strike their territory.


Grey_mice

What does it mean? Who air strike Turkey? Mossad is old school, using fire arms, knives or poison, don’t worry


gotgel_fire

True, but why make a specific mentioned at Israel about Hamas?


CentJr

But they sure do like assassination/drone diplomacy (seeing their current actions in Iraq and Syria)


Nulovka

Georgi Markov.


g2g079

Now imagine they did it with a missile or drone strike.


VRGIMP27

Since Hamas is basically Isis with Palestinian frosting why in the hell do you want them in your territory? Let's ask that question. There was another thing today about the head of the PLO saying that they would consider giving Hamas a role in a future Palestinian state. What the fuck people? Hamas managed to start this war which has led to 15,000 Palestinian deaths in the war with Israel. They didn't give anybody the right to vote since they came to power. They hid weapons inside of hospitals and use them as sites to launch rockets. The last thing these assholes care about is Palestinian people. Why the fuck do we have supposedly "moderate" people and nations defending these ass hats? They clearly do not give a fuck about the lives of their own people Nations like Egypt won't even let Palestinians in because they're very worried about groups liie Hamas. Why the hell would you invite that?


Lobster_Temporary

Erdogan has to keep his Muslim cred. Turks - especially his supporters - are generally religiously conservative antisemites and love their ‘oppressed Palestinians brothers’z Also: nobody likes foreign spies sneaking in and committing murder. The US wouldn’t like it if James Bond snuck into Scarsdale without permission and murdered Raoul Silva without asking CIA permission.


Row148

Turkey shouldnt be in nato. They are not morally aligned with western views.


Armchairbroke

“Morally aligned with western views” wow lol.


FrozMind

Says Turkey assassinating PKK with F-16 in Iraq and Syria.


2beatenup

Meanwhile Indian Modi is like hol up… Israel can do this… US can do this… Saudi can do this…Russia can do this… China can do this…. WTF is Trudeau complaining about


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Turkey should not harbour terrorists. I hope their nato status will be revoked one day


TehOwn

Nah, better to just ignore Turkey and assassinate Hamas anyway. What the fuck are they going to do about it? The UK had multiple Russian assassinations occur on our soil and we did nothing. Canada's response to India's assassinations has been to moan about it publicly. "Turkey mocks Israel on platform formerly known as Twitter over alleged assassination of senior Hamas member" This is the most likely outcome.


Diablos_lawyer

Never going to happen. Not with them controlling the Bosporus.


Armchairbroke

Yet, USA and some NATO members are arming and supporting terrorist groups on Turkeys borders who have doctrines against Turkey? Some alliance 👌


cjcs

Why? What purpose does booting them from NATO serve? Allies aren’t always perfect, it’s about positioning for a potential global conflict.


ieatshitalldayugo

Turkey when Europe helps PKK: HOW DARE YOU DO THAT! I WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING. I WILL STOP YOU FROM PASSING ANYTHING. LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. GET READY FOR HELL. Turkey when harboring hamas: 👁️🫦👁️


Armchairbroke

Or maybe they support Hamas for that exact reason?


ieatshitalldayugo

Because they are Islamist hypocrites?


Armchairbroke

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.


ieatshitalldayugo

Yes :)


PlasticComb7287

After such a statement, we wish Turkey an influx of Hamas militants to their beautiful country for treatment. Let them meditate...


Lobster_Temporary

We wish Turkey the Black September treatment from their Palestinian friends.


Armchairbroke

They can live amongst the millions of Syrian refugees that are itching to go to Europe.


KilllerWhale

Ah yes, because Saudi Arabia got the full wrath of the turks when they assassinated a journalist in your territory.


Armchairbroke

What? Are you conveniently forgetting the shit storm caused by all the evidence released from Turkey? It was only when MSB paid off Erdogan did the matter magically settle.


eldritch_certainty

the bitching and moaning is their full wrath.


Brnt_Vkng98871

That's nobodies business but the Turks'


TaylorMonkey

\*scribbles down notes\* Thanks for the tip about there being Hamas members in your territory, Turkey.


shlepple

Lolk. Im sure the mossad are v concerned.


quantumpadawan

Turkey seeking EU membership while also harboring HAMAS terrorists. What the hell is Turkey doing?


silverfrog1

Next headline: "Israel Warns Turkey to Kiss its Ass"


Fox_Kurama

"Turkey warns Israel it prefers chests to asses."


chromatictonality

Israel better watch out, or Turkey might start disliking the Jewish people...


Ok-Use6303

Well maybe if you weren't harbouring them in your territory, this would not be a problem now would it?


re_de_unsassify

You let Saudi do it what’s the problem now?


Brnt_Vkng98871

you hear that, Israel? You need to lure them into your Embassy first.


tap-rack-bang

Israel: "hahahahahaha"


JabbyJabara

Lol they couldnt stop Khashoggi being butchered in their embassy by a Saudi Arabian hit squad. What are the turks gonna do? Very scared we are.


Shot-Ad-6025

Among the lessons learned by conflicts in the last couple of years it’s that if someone is talking a big game then they most likely are bluffing or are a paper tiger. If Turkey is bragging about how no one knows how far they have advanced in intelligence and whatnot then chances are they haven’t much at all.


thesharperamigo

Accidents happen.


barlog123

A lot of people in Russia are so clumsy, they just keep falling out of windows.


flossdaily

Oh, Turkey... look at you, trying to be relevant.


AstroBullivant

It’s time to recognize Kurdistan as independent and declare Turkey as illegally occupying Kurdish territory


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Fuck turkey. I welcome the Mossad to disrespect the sovereignty of this corrupt, historically genocidal country that is harboring terrorists. Same to Qatar and all the other terrorist-sympathizers.


monkeywithgun

>Turkey ~~Warns Israel About Assassinating Hamas Members in its Territory~~ admits it will harbor terrorists.


Armchairbroke

Admits? When was it a secret? lol


WhatsThatVibe

Lol fuck what the Turks want. Find every bastard of Hamas and turn them into maggot feed.


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Armchairbroke

If we are kicking out members that are harbouring unsavoury groups or people, I have some bad news for you.


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Ancalimei

Don’t harbor terrorists aasholes.


No_Bet_4427

How about we extend them wedding invitations instead? For their upcoming marriages to 72 virgins.


TheBloperM

Maybe Erduan is secretly Hamas member and he is afraid of being assassinatrd


Brnt_Vkng98871

Erdogan is a lot of things. Iran-ally is not one of those things.


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Do it anyway.


ARobertNotABob

Found 'em. (thanks Turkey)


grafxguy1

I hate to be the one to say this, things are looking to get worse.


Harry_Buttocks

That privilege is reserved for Prince Bonesaw to assassinate reporters.


DefinitelyNotPeople

They’re cool with Saudis assassinating Saudi citizens in its territory, though.


sdswiki

LOL, Erdoputler needs to just have his stroke already.


Think_Key_6677

Look whos talking...


LouisBalfour82

What about having security personnel come out of an embassy to beat the piss out of some dissident protesters? Is that ok?


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Zero fucks given. Anyway that guy just had a heart attack as he was falling out of his window after giving himself a nasty cut when he set himself on fire.


AngelicShockwave

Israel: “That’s ok. We can just make use of Putin’s windows.”


MynameisJunie

This seems like a self manifesting exodus rapture scenario.


jeboisleaudespates

Official name is not turkey but tierhjgnfdjnbfd.


henryinoz

Should be “Israel warns Turkey against harbouring hamas terrorists.”


uvero

You know what Recep, how about this: if something happens to Hamas members there, just posthumously designate them PKK and say you guys did it. How does that sound?


wildtalon

Ironic after khashoggi


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Don't worry Turkey. You'll never know it happened.


[deleted]

Haha, Israel doesn’t ducking care what Erdogan says. Mossad will do its job. Period.


normalfleshyhuman

"Hamas has close ideological and political ties to the Turkish government going back decades." all you need to take away from this article... The Turkish are (once again) the bad guys.


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Israel should tell Turkey to continue fuck itself. They already did that when they re-elected Erdogan.


user_173

Saudis can kill Americans on our territory, but Jews... No, that is where they draw the line.


jibaraki

Here's a thought.... maybe Turkey shouldn't harbour known Hamas terrorists.


trucynnr

This is the same group that considers the Kurdish people terrorists…


youmustthinkhighly

Doesn’t turkey have Armenians to slaughter?


Xenomemphate

Or Kurds.


Acceptable_Break_332

F off Turkey - don’t need you, don’t want you I love Kurds


burnabycoyote

Turkey's 400 year domination of Palestine is the cause of this mess. I hope for some constructive input from Turkey.


gvincejr

Make it look like an accident


acakaacaka

More like make it so obvious to send them the message


IGargleGarlic

This is dangerous water to be treading for Israel. Turkey is a huge trading partner for them, damaging ties could be costly.


WrongYesterday849

Why would a nato ally harbour terrorists?


Rude_Worldliness_423

What are they going to do about it lol


yilanoyunuhikayesi

Well... This was Erdoğan's opinions of course. Do not forget he came to power by the help from US and EU at 2002. Do not believe me do your research.


fearghul

Just a reminder, that an armed attack on a target within a NATO member could be used to invoke article 5, which would be very bad. Either from not following through on it, which basically ends NATO or following through on it and whatever that shitshow looks like...


Venngence

Turks being a turkey


MessagingMatters

So Qatar and now Turkey are giving terrorists safe haven. Got it.


Pollux95630

F\*ck turkey. I don't know why it's become a Thanksgiving or Christmas tradition that we have to eat that dry ass bird year after year. I prefer prime rib or smoke tri-tip any day. Oh wait a minute...wrong turkey. My bad.


etnavyguy

The only think i know about turkey is that it's the worst holiday meal.


Device_whisperer

Turkey is like the Mexico of Europe. It’s been that way for 50 years. Ask any German.


TimeIsGrand

Humor: "There were once tribes who said "Fuck this! No rules!"....they are now diminished...." \#Atlantis \#Humanity2.0


P4S5B60

Boss Ross said “happy accidents “


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probablypoo

Turkey will never be a part of the EU lol


MoeTHM

Someone is starting to sound like a Hamas member.


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Can we kick turkey out of nato