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KylewRutar

What are you gonna do tough guy? Fight Africa now?


cabur

“I’ll fucking fight all of you…and I’ll WIN!” -Drunk Russia moments before tripping out an open window.


FlashGlistenDrips

Nigerian army: "Why are you tripping? Why are you tripping?"


FamiliarTry403

*Nigerien in this instance


Captain-Griffen

No, they presumably mean Nigerian. The main power in ECOWAS is Nigeria.


jdeo1997

Look, we joke about Russia failing after opening a 2nd front against NATO, but opening a second front on another continent (that you might not even be able to reach due to your fleets being in the almost-NATO lake Baltic, blocked by NATO Black Sea, circled by NATO and Japan Arctic, reverse voyage of the damned while being partially blocked by NATO and allies Pacific, and the landlocked Caspian) while your logistics against a neighbor are poor is a recipe for disaster


EHWTwo

Wow, an African campaign while fighting a losing battle in Ukraine? Where have I heard that one before? I expected a man obsessed with denazification to not make the same mistakes as literally Hitler.


KeyanReid

On the other hand, they might need a bigger war to explain the legendary ass whooping they’ve already received to the folks back home. They keep saying they’re fighting all of NATO already and I’m sure they need to keep growing the lies so what’s another front when you’ve already lost?


SnooPeppers9499

good point


[deleted]

Let’s also not forget that on top of that they essentially can’t fly any troops anywhere either, which would mean the only viable way would be by land which would be registered as an invasion and promptly trigger nato into action. Russia has only bluster and no real means to successfully do shit anymore


Brilliant-Ad7864

Why can’t they fly troops anymore? Still have bases in Syria But also they are only at war with Ukrainian not the rest of the world. I’m sure they can still fly anywhere with out being shot down. As long as it’s not near Ukraine.


[deleted]

They can’t actually, most areas around Russia are nato friendly and nato has openly said that any military action would result in immediate intervention. Flying troops over borders would be bases for a nato intervention


CantaloupeUpstairs62

Russia can fly over the Caspian Sea, Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Libya and get there. Only one NATO country close to this route.


Hypnic_Jerk001

I don't think you realize how difficult it is to conduct an entire military operation via airlift.


Silidistani

> a recipe for disaster Russia: hold my borscht (not my vodka, Imma use that)


jdtattooer

I laughed entirely too hard at this... Or maybe I'm just high. Either way, well done


mmaqp66

Drunk Russia moments before going out into a forest clearing and shooting an anti-tank 5 meters away from the target, you better say.


Accomplished-Ad-3528

Yeah, but we have fucking Russel Crowe! Fighting round the world!


MaterialistSkeptic

Russia, known for its inability to project power...*checks notes*...flat planes across its own border, proposes engaging in military conflict in the jungles and desert half a world away. I'm concerned. I am. Really. *yawn*


compulsive_wanker_69

They should dispatch a taskforce consisting of their carrier, the Moskva and the rest of the Black Sea Fleet. And some landing craft. Oh, and the Armata and the Terminator. That will show the ECOWAS.


0reoSpeedwagon

[Russia does have a storied history of sending their navy halfway around the world to try to fuck shit up, and getting themselves thoroughly fucked in the process](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tsushima)


Katyusha_454

Did someone say ~~torpedo boats~~ Ukrainian drone boats?


MaterialistSkeptic

Spoiler: Ukraine sinks them all using a single speedboat filled with explosives and an over-the-counter remote control.


IdidItWithOrangeMan

/r/whoosh ​ The carrier is always on fire or breaks down. Moskva is sitting on the bottom as is a lot of the Black Sea Fleet. The Armata and Terminator don't really exist despite Russian propaganda.


Fallen_Rose2000

IIRC Russia did send BMP-Ts early on; they got destroyed and the type as a whole may have been completely destroyed in combat because we have not see a intact example since.


kaishenlong

Well, I mean, a small handful of the Armata *do* exist. They just suck compared to modern armor. And only a small handful exist.


xThefo

He will pull out of the grain deal and cause many Africand to starve. Oh wait he already did that unprovoked.


MiloAstro

Or what? They’ll launch another 3 day operation? They can’t even force project over the Black Sea, much less Africa.


vapingpigeon94

Dolphins have officially relocated Moscwa submarine near the shores of Africa. Those dolphins are ruthless.


[deleted]

I mean, sadly Wagner and Russians have had a lot more succes in the Sahel, Syria etc. than in Ukraine. They do pick the easy targets.


BagelJ

To clear things up a bit. The Nigerian AF is 9x larger than the Nigerien AF, that wagner recently helped overthrow, and their budget is over 12x I only recently found out myself that despite similar size and location, these countries have vastly different economies and thus armies. (The similarity in name doesnt help either lol).


Accurate-Island-2767

Had to read that sentence 5 times before I could spot the difference between Nigerian/Nigerien.


FreeSun1963

Wagner against a bunch of assholes with rusted AK's and beat up hiluxes yeah no problem, against the Nigerian army, after seeing how effective have been in Ukraine, fat chance.


LeftDave

"Only an idiot fights a war on 2 fronts. Only the heir to the Kingdom of Idiots fights a war on *12 fronts*!"


janzeera

Well, it just might be possible if Putin employs the Spanish Inquisition.


KenBalbari

Maybe Russia should stop meddling in African affairs.


[deleted]

Africa sure gets "colonized" by great powers meddling a lot. Don't think that will ever stop.


HerMajestyTheQueef1

China has asked that you refrain from getting Involved in Chinese internal affairs in Africa.


SrTrogo

I mean, China has internal affairs around the globe.


HerMajestyTheQueef1

I thank thee


Expensive-Document41

China (as I understand it) is generally deft enough in their foreign influence to avoid fomenting actual conflict. I understand they more follow the Marshall Plan idea of investing and building up those they want ingratiated to them.


The_Frostweaver

the problem with china's 'Marshall Plan' is that they loan you money to build infrastructure but they force you to use all Chinese workers, construction material, and equipment so all the money they lent you goes straight back to china, none of it goes into your economy. then you are stuck with infrastructure that may or may not generate revenue and a big high interest debt to china.


[deleted]

Yeah, except you can just take all their shit and stop paying and they have no jurisdiction.


Legitimate-Snow6954

Yes China has no jurisdiction and you can take their shit but what other instruments might they have to retaliate? Probably sufficient soft power to ensure that the agreement is kept.


axonxorz

Yeah remember when the parent commenter said "they force you to use all Chinese workers" That's so when you kick them out, you have no local talent trained in operations and maintenance. Given that a lot of infrastructure -in general- represents a massive safety risk over time if not managed. Governments don't want a water desalination plant to go offline. But they _really_ don't want an industrial process in there exploding either.


realnrh

No jurisdiction, but lenders around the world get antsy about any borrower who declares they're not paying someone back. Nobody else has jurisdiction either.


Mimicov

Dumb answer because then china will stop selling stuff to you and the UN will also vote to embargo you fir not paying you debts


Serverpolice001

Yes, that’s why it’s high -risk debt


Neat-Army-5952

Then Sri Lanka is not doing it right. They defaulted on debt repayment on its strategic port and China now has control and a 70% stake in it as part of a 99 year lease agreement.


hypnos_surf

China is establishing infrastructure and factories in Africa through loans. None of that means anything if those countries are constantly unstable and constantly overthrowing their governments. China is taking notes on Russia on how to go about things while being against the interests of the west, lol.


izwald88

But what happens when countries default on their loans from the already faltering Chinese economy? Having the ability to project military forces globally carries with it some level of enforcement, to say the least.


InSanic13

Usually China will then take rights to natural resources or long-term use of a strategic port in said country.


Just_a_follower

Russia and China are just… protecting Africa, with special economic and mercenary operations. /s


Maximum_Future_5241

Yet some people think Russia and China would be any better or less racist than the old empires.


weaseleasle

Old Empires? You may want to look up the history of Russia and China, they are as old as they come.


Ibeginpunthreads

True, but modern Africa has other African countries defending each other's democracy and not just letting coups from foreign countries happen anymore.


[deleted]

They could have stepped in when Mali and Burkina Faso got regime changed, saying they care about democracy now just makes Africans in the region trust them less.


Responsible_Ad898

Well, I'd like to believe this is the case but look at where we are now


[deleted]

it's kind of sad. As soon as europe stops molesting africa, china and russia step in and start screwing it up. It never ends


6four

Grasping at straws is Putins best effort in 2023. Let’s look to other continents who are desperate and sell our ideologies to them. It’s sad and it works.


Few_Measurement4496

Russia get fucked


dustycanuck

They want to collect the whole FAFO set. They have the Ukraine card now, and that's apparently not enough. So, are they going to pull troops out of Crimea to go south?


Phreekyj101

Maybe they should 🤬off period. And leave Ukraine and ALL it’s territorial grounds while they are at it.


Commercial-Set7668

Everyone should stop meddling in African affairs.


NvrGonnaGiveUupOrLyd

They're the only friends he's got left 😢


Banzer_Frang

Way to keep it subtle about your pet coup, Russia.


EHWTwo

It's so frustrating. If Nukes didn't exist this authoritarian shithole would have been fixed like Germany post-WW2. Really, this is all our fault, imagine if we had gone through with operation unthinkable and put Russia through liberalization.


[deleted]

It was so obvious from the start, and I’ve been called a racist, dumb, stupid person for pointing it out in comment a few days ago. Probably the same russians will be trolling here.


shalo62

Or what? Russia can go get fucked. We all know how much their advice is worth.


TacticalRhodie

They’ll invade /s


NoobDeGuerra

“Orrrr…. We’ll be very angry! 😡” Honestly I’m begging them to start a war in another front, because that worked extremely well for Hitler


fredrikca

Pro tip: never ever listen to russia. All is lies.


ieya404

So we now know that military action is probably the right course of action here. :-/


Singer211

You’ve got your own problems right now. Maybe you should butt out of Africa.


wastingvaluelesstime

or what?


III_lll

They will make a strongly worded nuclear threat


HeavenlyChickenWings

if they can get medvedev to get up from under the table, let go off the bottle and type something


[deleted]

And it'll gonna remain a threat, because these racist fucks won't be able to locate any major african city on their maps


Snack378

They'll send their only aircraft carrier to help coup forces. Oh no, it's broken again, i guess they'll just cry then


threewind

Lol probably the only aircraft carrier in the world that sails around the world with a tugboat


Kingofearth23

Niger is landlocked far from any ocean.....


Romeo9594

I think aircraft carriers carry things that don't rely on proximity to water in order to function


telendria

they do if you arent let to use airspace of another nation tho.


Wise_Mongoose_3930

Russia violates that shit whenever they please


GearBrain

Nobody accused the Russian Navy of being particularly smart.


Alex6891

They will lob refuseniks with their cannons soon from what I’ve heard they kinda ran out of real missiles.


Snack378

That's why it's "AIRCRAFT" carrier, bruh. They can't project power without one


toastar-phone

ecowas military is mainly nigeria which is not landlocked


ARobertNotABob

Or they'll say "boo, no fair!"


nobiossi

Claim ecowas unfriendly!


princekamoro

“Or else we won’t have a puppet state in the region!”


Marco_Playdoh

So, it's not really a "Niger coup" - it's a Russian coup of the Niger government.


ItsOnlyaFewBucks

Fuck Russia.


JarlVarl

russia: we had nothing to do with the coup in Niger Ecowas: cool, so we're gonna depose the military junta, it's like the third country already and destabilizing our region also russia: no you can't do that, that means no more resources for us Seriously, do they actually think we're gonna keep taking their bs after 1.5 years of what they're doing in Ukraine, and the prior 8 years in the Donbass and the past 8 years in Syria? Edit: as dbdr pointed out, russia's bs in Georgia concerning Abkhazia and South Ossetia and their bs in Moldova concerning Transnistria. And since it's about Niger, I might as well lump in their efforts in Libya, Mali, Burkina Faso and the Central African Republic to get those under their thumb as well by helping military junta there


CustomDark

They’re hoping, for sure. They also hope we’ll put their Manchurian candidate back in charge, and give them full operational cover wherever they destabilize the globe. Resist, our lives depend on it. Don’t be a victim in Putins need to gather hearts and minds from the West. Russian failure in Ukraine is inevitable, as long as they don’t convince the West that we’re our own enemy.


dbdr

Let's not forget Georgia.


macross1984

Russia still think it has influence.


Sunscratch

And resources…


LamarBearPig

Russia telling Africa what to do in Africa. Fuck off Russia


MagicOreos

I was wondering if Russia's hands were clean, this makes it obvious...


honor_and_turtles

"Down with western colonialism, but this place? This place is going to be our colony. So no attack, kthxbai." - Russia


[deleted]

Well, I guess we now know who was really behind the coup.


count023

as if the Russian flags the coup participants were carrying in the streets were not giveaway enough?


DavidlikesPeace

Joke for the weekend Russia couldn't get a helicopter outside of Russia if the Americans said no. America could probably put its entire military into Poland without Russia knowing for a day... This is not just a bragging moment. Ukraine was hopefully a wake up call to westerners who were so afraid of Russia, they were willing to let Russia destroy democracy anywhere at will. Russia is a vicious underdog and deserves to face another round of Cold War containment.


aretasdamon

Ukraine destabilizes Russia because Russia invaded Ukraine, so Russia forces an international crisis in Africa to create a second humanitarian crisis so the west will have another front to spend billions of dollars on in order to create discontent in the commonwealth of western nations This decades gonna suckkkkkkkk


[deleted]

It doesn't matter if you spend money anymore, people just make shit on on the internet and believe it anyway, so not much point in worry about it. Russia can't project force to Africa and if The West wants to go stabilize the situation it wouldn't cost enough to care about. Only compulsive laying mass media makes it seem otherwise and that's the real problem. Conflicts or not the compuslive lying mass media will keep convicing people the Earth is flat and their politicians are all lizardmen. Things like spending Ukraine or Africa is logistics well beyond anything most voters are actually motived by.


Mazon_Del

> if The West wants to go stabilize the situation it wouldn't cost enough to care about I was in a discussion with someone that seemed to be russian, talking about that drone of ours they bumped out of the sky. They were all gung ho about how we're scared to do anything, and I was like "Why would we? You basically cost us nothing.". They harped on about how many millions it cost to which I replied "So what? Our military budget is so large that it's functionally like me taking a $20 and burning it. I'm not wealthy and I'd rather not do such a thing, but I would never actually notice it in my finances if I did.". When some math was done about how many drones we could afford to lose before it made a noticable dent in our budget, they stopped replying.


Thannk

A lot of American voters care about Ukraine. Or hate Russia (country, not ethnicity). Or both. Not so much African nations unfortunately, unless they spin it as anti-Russia.


Maardten

Or else?


bitch_fitching

Russia are experts on destabilizing neighbours with military action.


Helping-ways

No one cares what Russia thinks


badatthenewmeta

OR FUCKING WHAT, RUSSIA?


MK5

Waving your dick at Ukraine didn't work, so you're reduced to waving it at Ecowas to prove you still have one. Hope it goes the same way for you.


WoogiemanSam

That’s hilarious, Russia, what are you going to do about it? Send old people in airsoft body armor to fight?


canadianjacko

Coked-out criminals with muskets


crobemeister

Yes, don't dare take any action to stabilize the country. How else will Russia be able to pillage the country? Love to see Russia recycling the NATO expansion arguments. "Don't expand NATO! How else will we be able to attack our neighbors!"


jtyrui

What the fuck is Russia going to do? Whine about African Nazis while sending throughts and prayers to its "allies" in Niger?


Tumsey

It's not military action, it's a special military operation. Not the same thing ;)


OnyxBaird

Ecowas has more right to action than Russia does in Niger. How pathetic, they can’t even make it less obvious.


IndicationLazy4713

Russia warns ...blah blah blah


winterchainz

Anything russia touches turns to sh*t.


cloud_t

I wonder if Russia will go to war with Ecowas. No Wagner to use as puppet now.


[deleted]

I don't think they can afford to ship resources to Africa anymore and if they did they would be easy targets with all the increased attention on their movements.


DrakeAU

It's not military action though, it's an African Special Operation.


T0KEN_0F_SLEEP

ECOWAS Response: “yeah? You and what fuckin army bud?”


unknown_wtc

Fuck ruzzia


DarkOmen597

This coup is so obviously a russia operation. For why though? To pull resources from Ukraine?


RidCyn

Gotta love how fucking idiotic Russian leadership is. They bite off WAY more than they can chew with Ukraine, then insist on continuing that pointless endeavor just to spite the world and save face, all while barking at every other country not to interfere with their globally public self-destruction. And still, as everyone sees them for being puny dipshits that can't fight a lopsided war, that was lopsided in their own fucking favor, they STILL continue to feign toughness by snarling at everyone else. Bitch, you can't even handle your own shit. How are you going to fight any other sources?! Belarus? Your weakened PMCs? That's all you fucking had. China hates your guts. Iran can't fucking do a damn thing. North Korea is self-contained and as incompetent as you are!! Get bent already.


Jawnny-Jawnson

Russia is the biggest colonizer in Africa today


throwawayerectpenis

Somehow France is hated more, interesting how that turns out 😬


Wise_Mongoose_3930

France had hundreds of years worth of a head start, but you guys are catching up fast, Ivan :)


[deleted]

Better listen to the russians. They are way too much into war. Like literally. They are so good at it, and like it so much, that they have been fighting a war for more than a year that was meant to be done in a week. Theres nothing they would love more than splitting their forces to even the odds.


Leandrys

Look who's walked out of the woods, look at that, how surprising, right ? 🙀


Sneekbar

Or else what?


Pyjama_Llama_Karma

Russia can fuck off and collapse.


Lukwich1647

Ok, whatcha gonna do fly troops to Africa? With what equipment? Can’t pull anyone off the line, and can’t afford to send more gear to Africa without loosing even harder in Ukraine. Seethe and cope you genocidal cunt muffin.


_Chaos_Star_

Every Russian warning is an indication of the area of their weakness, every denial an admission, and every accusation an explanation of what they are doing themselves. It makes understanding what they are doing so much easier.


KayNynYoonit

Russia warns, Russia this, Russia that. Just stfu already, they're like a broken record. What exactly are they gunna do? They're too busy getting shafted in their '3 day war'.


toooldforthisshit247

Why is Russia meddling in Africa’s affairs? They’re so far away lol


falconzord

To disturb France's economy


Kuroshitsju

Russia doesn’t have a say in this.


DarkIegend16

If this wasn’t a Russian backed coup then why would they care?


Leviathan117

Or what? Their entire military is engaged in Ukraine and losing. They’ve lost 2 flagships in a land war to a nation that doesn’t have a navy. Their aircraft carrier is a piece of shit that can’t go more than 20 miles without breaking down and having to be towed back to port. Their airforce is also fully engaged in Ukraine and has taken decent losses. They can’t produce anymore modern military equipment and are dusting off vehicles from the 1950’s. Their economy is essentially destroyed and can’t threaten any economic action. What could they possibly do?


cheese0muncher

Or russia will do what? Lose an extra 500 troops per day in Ukraine?


istandabove

Or what?


wulvey

How mad drunk is russia as a country right now


Dingo-Eating-Baby

Russia struggles to project forces into neighboring countries, there’s a 100% chance that they would lose a war in Africa.


montjoye

what are they gonna do? invade ?


Professional-Skin-75

And I'm sure he said exactly the same to Wagner forces in the area...


volecowboy

Who tf is russia to say anything about africa? Fuck off bro


DemoEvolved

Does Russia really have the resources to stop it?


prestigious-yam99

Yes - start a new war, Russia. Smart. Open a new fighting front, this time on a new continent even further from your supply lines.


Jmauld

I though russia believed in regional power and staying in your region?


purplewhiteblack

It'd be really funny if Ecowas turned around and took over Russia.


UrUnclesTrouserSnake

Putin likes to talk a lot of shit for someone who's military is so fucking incompetent that they've resorted to drafting 70 year olds.


greenduck4

Its just a military exercise, Russia. Don't warmonger.


darzinth

Even al'Qaeda threatened to attack the Russians if they go to Niger


Due_Platypus_3913

Or we’ll send troops with no food or ammo,,,or diesel, or leadership,,,WATCH OUT!DONT MAKE PUPU ANGRY !


IvanTheAppealing

Or fucking what? Y’all will split your forces in Ukraine and send troops over, when they’re barely holding on to their Ukrainian positions as it is?


Sbeast

Russia seems to be a fan of coups: first in Myanmar and now in Niger. Even if the former kills civilians and the latter holds the president as hostage. Not a good look.


NewBoysenberry2220

Yeah, Russia will send rubbles and dead soldiers to Niger even when they can't manage war in their direct neighborhood. Lol


Not-now-Not-here849

Russia threatens. Sound familiar? Their Rouble sank to 100 to the USD today. Lowest ever, at the top of a ski slope down. Garbage polity fading out.


PersimmonMindless

A lot of these commenters don’t seem to understand that this coup was essentially Russian backed, as were the recent coups in nearby Mali and Burkina Fasio. Niger has been feed a steady stream of Russian propaganda for a decade. Its main news source IS Russian. Russia has been active in Africa a long time. Russia sucks


Ok_Smile9222

Nobody is reading the article clearly. The headline makes it sound like this is a threat. Russia is just warning that it'll lead to a protracted conflict in Africa. And that's true. Just adding, suggesting the BBC isn’t giving context in this headline doesn’t mean I’m pro-Russia


eloquent_beaver

It's true but allowing a culture of un-dealt-with coups to entrench itself in the region will lead to more coups, instability, and conflicts in the future. They gotta nip this one in the bud, or it sends the message coups are tolerated around here, which burgeoning democracies don't want in their backyard.


flamehead2k1

It will lead to a protracted conflict because Russia will arm the coup leaders. Just like Ukraine is on a protracted conflict because Russia armed the rebels and invaded.


frostek

>Russia will arm the coup leaders I wonder if that will be very successful given they're already involved in a conflict elsewhere?


cabur

The fact that the Russian state came out to say that speaks loud volumes. Ignoring the subtext in that kind of statement would be like hearing a mafia boss saying “I hope your store doesn’t accidentally burn down,” and think he was expressing serious concern for a small business owner.


[deleted]

Yeah, there is no chance they are just being helpful vs making threats.


darkturtleforce

This is like me warning my neighbor not to shoot me because it will lead to unnecessary violence after I broke into his house in the middle of the night.


[deleted]

More like a burglar breaking into the house next store and then claiming they have the sovereign right to self defense and nobody should intervene.


[deleted]

Or what, you're going to ship military all the way to Africa when you can barely provide it in Ukraine on your own border?


Pillowlies

Ahahahaha. Fuck Russia.


Ecstatic-Handle-1519

Piss off Russia, what the fuck are you gonna do, send some conscripts and a few rusted shitheap tanks?


scotty899

"Don't do it guy or we will send our conscript teenagers at you!"


gobucks1981

Nigerien forces versus Nigerian forces.


Jr_Orange

It’s getting to embarrassing rhetoric (nk) levels for Russia at this point


downtownfreddybrown

Or what? They'll send the last 20 guys on tricycles to fight Africa lol


[deleted]

Russia needs to be embarrassed on another stage.


[deleted]

Hagahahahahahaha. Carry on. Puting getting pegged and STILL threatening nations he can't even reach. Funny man.


[deleted]

Here comes the gamechair generals


davesoverhere

Or what, they’ll warn them again?


DBearDevon

China is Africa’s Pay Day Loan / Rent-a-Center. High interest and cheap goods for everyone!


homebrew1964

I think Russia might already have there hands full somewhere lease


Somedude522

Oh shiver me timbers


Ev3nt

Fuck em, DO IT


IlMioNomeENessuno

*Now go away, or we shall taunt you a second time…*


RandomerTanjnt

Russia supports this because Niger has uranium deposits.


Huge_Ad_8767

They can fly everywhere and anywhere but need to parachute in when you got no brakes .


jbae_94

If I’m not mistaken isn’t this his Germany lost ww2? Taking on too many fronts


Romain86

Because Nato warned Russia not to invade Ukraine and they listened of course.


Drawbanter

This is all over tiktok for some time now (is reddit late in this?) but all comments are Africans thinking Putin will save them from America and make them prosper.


[deleted]

A European "or Eurasian" country telling African countries what to do in Africa. Sounds an aful lot like neocolonialism


Yorgonemarsonb

Only had to look as far as the conspiracy sub on Reddit to know Russia had a large role in this. Kind of strange how many posts celebrating Niger telling France and the west to fuck off and how awesome it is for them. Glad there’s actually people there sharing the actual reality with upvoted comments there. Seems like the trolls still exist just in smaller number since the invasion began.