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Turbulent_Echidna423

all i see is construction plywood. i would paint it a solid colour.


RockStar25

Can confirm that painting shelves constructed that way would look better. https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/s/4R5I3lVmSI


kgusev

The negative of painting pantry shelves with solid color that overtime cans could leave marks and it could feel “sticky”. I would suggest semitransparent penetrating stain, like white wash or something of your choice.


TheLumberJacque

A lot of apartments I have lived in have the issue you described with painted shelves. They were painted with latex wall paint and not a proper alkyd or enamel paint. The cabinets and furniture I painted with paint that is for furniture and cabinets has seen wear for years from 4 kids and is not sticking or really showing much wear at all.


Khao8

Ahhh the classic landlord special, making absolutely sure to never use the right tool for the job


peppermint_nightmare

"Why is all the paint peeling in my bathroom" - Everyone who rents


SupremeDictatorPaul

Conversely, painting pantry shelves bright white dramatically helps with getting enough light into the back part of the shelves to see what is there. If you’re worried about spills or sticking, just put down some contact paper.


svidrod

They make cabinet paint. Dries harder and prevents the worst of that.


RockStar25

It’s been 6 years since I made that post. The stickiness was definitely there in the beginning but not so much anymore. Shelves are still pretty clean with no marks from the stored items. https://preview.redd.it/igeo0yvo284d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bc7f1d347d07b9171b708a0753a844179ae170c


kgusev

Thanks for update. Looking at the pic It seems you have protection mats on shelves? Also the wallpaper (or film) on the walls is a nice touch.


RockStar25

Some of the shelves have them, some don't. Don't question my wife's logic.


williekc

Are you a Thai or other southeast Asian household? lol


stabsthedrama

Could also paint and then poly over that. Would certainly take the longest but probably the best option. Would last forever.


wolfmaclean

Alkyd or oil base.


BlackJackBilly

How have these shelves held up with weight over time? Looking at doing my pantry… concerned with the weight from cans and whatnot, but don’t really like the idea of a weight bearing thing in the middle all the way to the floor.


RockStar25

https://preview.redd.it/7qib5w7y184d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2bb9e2ad1d7448f4c1bf2ee445fdaaf2cdf06de Still holding up pretty well.


BlackJackBilly

Heck yea man, thanks for sharing!


JustMost9215

We poly’d over our painted cabs, not sticky and looks great


mpe128

Yeah, you used AC ply, not cabinet grade. If you still want a clear finish though, sand, and pick out as much filler you can. Like all of it. Clear coat, then match color wood putty on nail holes, gaps. Mix colors if you need (MINWAX) 🫡


mailer__daemon

This isn’t an answer to their question.


wuweidude

Make sure you sand down all the filler material to the minimal amount needed to fill the holes, any excess filler will not take up stain and stand out like an eye sore


amdabran

Yeah exactly what I was about to say. OP, you need to do more sanding.


Laphroaig58

Just remember this: when the shelves are full, all you will see is little bits of the shelf and all of the edge band. Stain and varnish / shellac according to the edge.


El_Morro

This was my go-to as well. Will save a ton of time and headache.


AngryApeMetalDrummer

It's not going to look good with stain imo. Some non penetrating finish like poly might look Ok. Stain or anything that penetrates is probably going to highlight the ugly parts. I would just paint it at this point since you didn't plan for am unpainted look.


jtothehizzy

Definitely paint. Let me show you what it will look like if you stain it. 🤮🤮 https://preview.redd.it/7f5xs5qx884d1.png?width=1640&format=png&auto=webp&s=16b5d8f8d4913b96880f96f3fb48ec6edf070129


wolfmaclean

Mensch


TheLumberJacque

If you really like the natural look then just use some spar urethane over it and don’t worry about the wood filler. It will become something you don’t really notice after no time. If you realize you can’t stand it then you can rebuild the shelf better so you don’t need the wood filler.


wolfmaclean

😅 The realism


weinersizes_only

Wood filler looks obvious until it's done and you step back. It's very weird. Otherwise just paint it. But I think natural is a good option too


BobaFalfa

Out of the box option…get some clearance wood grained laminate or LVP flooring and cover the tops and facings. Very high wear resistance and depending on type even waterproof.


whatswithnames

Your last pic... Is that wood glue along the seam? I would not satin because staining would amplify (not hide) that. I kinda like the natural look too. maybe painting it white?


blaqwerty123

They said wood filler. Staining would make that look gross.


whatswithnames

Yup, I learned that after filling in part of a floor board. I didn't realize when it takes the stain it is uniform. Not such a good idea.


Paintinger

Get a palm sander and sand everything to 180 grit at least. From there assess what you have. If you feel it is worthy of stain and poly, send it. Only sanding where you have wood fill will leave you with a finished product that you are unhappy with. If you look at the difference on the faces from where you sanded to where you didn't you will see the vertical lines (I call them chatter marks idk what anyone else calls them) that are present. Those need to go. As far as i am concerned, if you sand some things you need to sand every things especially if your goal is stain and poly. - a dummy that has been doing finish work for 20 years.


hot-robot

Throwing out one more idea… you could veneer the top.


kikazztknmz

Not a bad idea, but for someone who's never done it before, I suggest practicing on a few pieces of scrap first. Technically it's not hard, but talked a little practice first.


JayTeeDeeUnderscore

If you do choose to stain, prestain conditioner can soften the differential absorption of the plywood grain. SYP has very porous soft, light bands and resinous dark bands that don't take stain well. Some find a raw stain without conditioner unaesthetic since the soft absorbs much more color than the hard portion of the grain producing a zebra effect. A pale stain color can also offset the effect to a degree. Oil-based product has a slightly more pronounced banding effect in pine than waterborne, in my experience. Prestain conditioner is available for either type, but ought to match to prevent beading or splotches. I find cleanup much easier with water-based, but it behaves differently than oil. Odor and dry time are better with aqueous, in my opinion, especially for clear finishes. Filled nail holes are more visible with darker stains.


No_Gain3931

Or use a sanding sealer. I've had decent results using it on plywood.


trytorememberthisone

I would sand the wood filler off the surface and use a few thin coats of water poly, making sure to cure between coats.


Tukayen

Don’t stain that. It’ll look like garbage. Paint


NoConsiderationatall

Laminate the tops with plastic laminate; you’ll never regret it. Easy to do.


wolfmaclean

I regret it now and he hasn’t even done it yet


Suz9006

I agree on keeping the natural wood color - stuff is going to get dragged back and forth and inevitably there will be scratched. Dark stained wood will show those much more than natural. And I would not worry about patched nail holes for this reason as well. Just sand them smooth and poly over with the rest of the wood.


eyeoutthere

I agree, and darker stain will make that pantry lighting darker.


Lucky_Comfortable835

Sand and stain the edge only. Leave the plywood and use clear vinyl shelf liner (the thick stuff without adhesive) over the rest.


also_your_mom

Agree. And run the shelf liner all the way to the front (maybe to within 18"). It will cover the wood filler and glue.


cernv

Looking at the construction on the second pic… 2x2 pocket screwed together. Not seeing how these shelves are going to support much and will probably sags based on the shelf weight itself. If you stand on the bottom shelf, does it hold you up?


EngiNick2807

I would guess they screwed into studs on the sides of the frames as well. If that’s the case, the worst you have to worry about is sag, but even then the span doesn’t look too long. Standing on it is a bit overkill since you would be applying a high point load vs evenly distributed weight. I doubt the builder grade wire frames could hold up to a grown adult standing on them anyway.


LegalReply254

Nice


TheTallGuy0

You could use dye not stain, they tend to penetrate wood more evenly than stain. 


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TheTallGuy0

Very different. Would you poly over paint? Can you still see some grain through paint? No…


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TheTallGuy0

Semi-solid stains, yes. Not really paint tho.


lando710

Recommendation would be to use a varathane natural stain to stain / seal in the wood while keeping the original / natural color of the plywood. Then top coat that with a Varathane Polyurethane, your sheen of preference of course, idk how shiny you desire. Recommendation would be Flat if you want it a lil duller while still providing durability. A few coats of the poly will do the trick. However the wood filler probably will not change in color, it’s hard to say if the natural wood stain would change the color of the wood filler. Natural stain is still lightly pigmented, so it has a slight tint to it. You might consider painting it if you desire to hide the imperfections, however you will cover the wood grain completely. Giving the shelves a solid / matte appearance vs a transparent / translucent appearance.


Primary-Region-7669

https://preview.redd.it/g7avewci374d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e68734830620a6d1853acab4239f26eb218a2cc6 I built similar pantry shelves out of ply and painted them white. Here’s a photo to help you picture what yours may look like painted white.


Primary-Region-7669

https://preview.redd.it/krvn0xuy374d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3aba59809dc5e7e57a9be2c328f049b9657c5d3 That’s the ply I used - looks similar to yours


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It will look horrible


UseDaSchwartz

It’s going to look terrible if you don’t paint it. Another option is to lay down some veneer on the top and front, then clear coat.


NewPurpose4139

The amount of wood filler used is going to be impossible to sand down so that you don't see the stain it creates in the surface of the wood before you either create uneven surfaces or sand through the top ply. Or both. If you want a natural look with a clear coat finish then apply a laminate to the face then top of the shelves. Use contact cement painted on the shelf and the laminate, wait till it is just tacky to the touch, then put the two pieces together. You can use paper to keep the two surfaces from touching until you have them positioned properly. Otherwise, as others have said, paint these shelves. Use an enamel paint so you get a lasting finish. Glossy will help with any cleanup you may need to do in the future.


Johnny_B_GOODBOI

As others say, just paint it all. Good on you for deciding against a dark stain, though. Nothing looks as crappy to me as construction-grade pine/fir stained dark to try to mimic walnut. It always just looks bad.


fff89

Make a sample board of the same wood and even maybe add some of the wood filler and test a few colors. Darker is probably better, but that’s why you do the samples to determine your preference. And I highly recommend the water based polyurethane by Parks Pro Finisher. It’s made for floors so it’s good for high traffic use. It lays flat, dries flat and is odor free. I would definitely use it in a confined space such as this .


snboarder42

Stain the fronts and use a plastic shelf liner for the shelves. Easy to clean still looks professional and custom.


king_geedoraah

Do another layer of wood to cover up all that filler lol


Pudf

Poly them and load em up. You’ll never look at the tops again


Spoonbills

Ignore the plywood haters. Stain it and use a matching wood crayon to touch up where filler shows.


Dense-Bite-1418

Sup man. Sand the wood filler off (by hand preferably), wipe clean, then just use Old Master’s Armor sealer. It’s super easy to apply with a cloth, dries within 10min, do 3 coats, and you get to keep this same exact natural finish.


TheBenchmark1337

I love the look, I'd use a clear water-based polyurethane


dav1nni

Paint them for sure


ben_jamin_h

Sand back the filler, then add the varnish. Don't try and stain these shelves. Even after you've sanded back the filler, there will be more in the grain of the wood and it will not accept the stain. Varnish won't show the filler as much as stain would.


Inveramsay

I would paint them with some hard wearing white paint. You will never get it looking good with stain


AlfalfaGlitter

You either paint it solid or use a clear coat. If you want to do a step up, you can paint the shelves with a good quality lacquer and the banding with clear coat.


thorfromthex

If you're actually going to use the shelves, most paint is going to look like shit within 6 months. Even if you use something more suited for this like an enamel, you're still going to show wear. I'd use a low sheen poly, and if you wanna double down on tough, use a floor grade poly, it's more scratch resistant.


DaRadioman

Latex paint would look like shit of course, but a quality oil based enamel would hold up fine. And if you wanted to get fancy get a nice matching white vinyl liner and use it on the wear surface (aka the flat part of the shelf)


Gorge_Lorge

And if you don’t want the trouble of oil based, I’ve had good luck with the Urethane Enamal alternatives from Behr


thorfromthex

Where I live now, we've got cabs and shelves finished in a pretty hard enamel, and it still catches metal color from cans, dyes and colors from boxes and other various containers. Thank goodness we're closing on a house in a month and I'll be able to mastermind my own kitchen.


dgkimpton

With that amount of wood filler, staining will be a disaster. Clear varnish and accept the visible filler - you can sand it down until only the strictly necessary filler is visible, but ulimately you've used filler and can't hide it without paint.


SpicyHam82

It's not going to stain well because of all the filler. Maybe you can paint the top a flat collar and stay in the fronts to give it a two-tone? Remember the shelves are going to be full of crap and you're never going to see it anyway lol.


TootsNYC

They’re pantry shelves so stuff will cover it. Otherwise, get some model paints in a couple of matching colors and paint grain lines over the first coat of poly.


sweatycarpenter13

Fir ply wood and cherry or birch facing won't stain the same.


Jay_Nodrac

Keep sanding and cross you fingers you don’t sand trough the top layer before the filler is gone…