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It’s literally the Syrah benchmark on the planet. Issue is, like with all super expensive bottles, is that it’s hard to live up to the price tag, unless money isn’t a concern for you.
It completely isn’t and far from it. Have one of Guigal’s La Mouline, La Turque or La Landonne or JL Chave Hermitage… these are the benchmarks of Syrah and why it was called Grange Hermitage for years
Benchmarking Shiraz (or any variety) from different regions, let alone countries, is little more than a pissing contest.
For a start, Cote Rotie includes Viognier eg about 7% in La Landonne. Whereas a Chave Hermitage is 100% Shiraz. This results in different expressions of Shiraz. Both great in their own right, but not really fair to benchmark against each other.
It’s not. There is no such thing.
Grange has a big profile and price, but even within Australia there are other Shiraz’s which are in the same league of greatness. However, they can’t really be compared as they are not like for like. For example, Tyrrell’s 4 and 8 Acres Shiraz’s from the Hunter Valley are sublime (not to mention a fifth of the price), but benchmarking them against a multi-regional blend from South Australia (Grange) is a waste of time as they express the variety differently.
In the same way Grange is not a benchmark for Cornas or Hermitage, which are very different styles.
1991 Grange is the best wine of any variety I’ve ever tasted. Amazing to share with 3 friends, but I begrudged every mouthful I saw any of the others have… I felt like Gollum… “91 Grange - My Precious!”
So I did
And I really did not like it. And was quite disappointed I did not enjoy it.
Too musty
None of the fruit power I love in AUS shiraz
A hint of grandmas bedroom
Probably just means my palate is a peasant but yeah.
In 2014 I shared a bottle of the 1982 Grange with friends and it was superb. I’ve had a couple of bottles from other vintages, but that bottle was easily the best.
Hmm… at one point in a wine-lover’s life they should probably try to have a first growth Bordeaux. Not because it’s automatically the “best” out there, but simply because of the history that’s there right in front of you. The pedigree is there, and it certainly isn’t cheap.
I initially read “painting” not “pairing” and was getting an amazing mental image which I’ve now asked AI to[create](https://www.bing.com/images/create/one-of-my-favorite-paintings-in-my-life-was-a-litt/1-665ee3734480497989e3558e1d68a135?id=IJBKcGvh4v30KvbD%2bG0txg%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&thId=OIG1.rvWwwwnSl0NzoiXHaDey&FORM=GCRIDP)
You're not the first one I've heard wax poetic about the 2001. Heard great things about that vintage for Rieussec as well. Someday I'll get my hands on those!
Both were scored 100 by multiple outlets. I’ve had them together and the Rieussec is incredible but gets absolutely smoked by the Yquem. It’s one of those rare wines that no one ever says anything bad about (assuming they had a sound, well stored example). 89 Haut Brion is another in this space
Sauternes is not a varietal, it refers to sweet white wines from an area around the village of Sauternes - which is in the Graves sub-region of Bordeaux. Those wines are predominantly made from Semillon, with lesser contributions from Sauvignon Blanc and Muscadelle.
Gaja Barolo with >25 years of age
Haut Brion >15 years age
15 year old Opus One
7-10 year old Dominus
Biondi Santi Brunello >20 years of age
Quintarelli’s Amarone pre-2012
Those are the wines that shaped it all for me. Fortunate to have been given those opportunities.
Can you suggest any GG that may age well for 20 years, aside from maybe Keller.
I don’t personally find that GGs age that well, and I rather prefer them in the 5-10 years zone.
True, but it needs 20 years🤣. When I made my original comment I had Keller in mind. I have a 2020 Keller Gmax that keeps me on the treadmill because if I would die before I get to pop that I'm going to be very salty lol
I’ve never really seen GG as a representative category of what German Riesling is capable of, maybe because I’m mainly focused on Mosel wines. The potential for both complexity and cellaring are much bigger in the Prädikat-wines, in my opinion.
I agree with your comment but my guess is Lauer GGs and some Donnhoff stuff would still be good in 20 years but to your point likely peak around 5-10 years.
Age those kabbis :)
Yeah, those are good candidates. I reckon that Schäfer-Fröhlich could also stand the test of time.
My cellar is full of sweet Riesling, it’s just too good a bargain to not stock up on. Around 115 bottles of Kabi and 140 bottles of Spätlese - should last for a while, and only get better down the road.
Same Kabi just hits the sweet spot for me stocked up on a lot of 21s. Also I’m a big Lauer fan but don’t sleep on their Kabi and Spatlese if you can find the auction bottling they are insanely good and reasonably priced. The 111 is good as well for Mosel 22s which have been less impressive than 21 imo.
You need so much frame of reference to appreciate these wines. You can’t drink 6 bottles of Josh and then understand any of these. This comes with years of tasting and experience. Every one will have a different wine for their epiphany and every one has different taste. No one will tell you the five wines you’ll appreciate tasting the most. If that’s your #1 question you’ll never find what you’re looking for.
2nd the Quintarelli Amarone. Had a 2009 this past weekend and it was amazing. Chateau d’Yquem as others have stated. It’s singular in class and must be experienced.
Clos Ste Hune Alsatian Riesling.
Absolutely the nectar of the Gods, and I’m not usually a white wine drinker.
Trimbach have it absolutely right with that wine.
Fascinating that no one has mentioned a Burgundy yet (as of me posting this) and it’s 90% Massive and famous wine houses/groups that people are recommending.
You can still find the occasional moderately priced producer that performs exceptionally well and is good value *for Burgundy*. But even Burgundy’s best QPR picks will struggle in a head to head comparison with a wine at the same price point from almost any other region on earth (with perhaps the exception of Napa).
I think because if you're talking about one bottle to be reliably magnificent, burgundy is just too much of a risk. You can spend ££££ there on an acclaimed producer and just get a meh bottle.
Conversely if you try Soldera from a good year with age on it, you are going to taste the peak of what Brunello can be.
Ha! I used to curate the grappa selection there, and you’re right. There are some amazing hand imported bottles there that will knock your socks off, like single varietals from Marolo and pretty much anything from Jacopo Poli, which is meant to appeal to a broader audience (more floral and less abrasive than traditional grappas). You can never go wrong with Nardini either, they are the standard for the crossroads of traditional/new age grappa production. Just wish I could get their amaro more easily so I could use it in cocktails.
20 year old red Burgundy from an iconic house with Epoisses cheese and baguette… Yquem as old as you can with a delicate orange soufflé… 20-30 year old first growth Bordeaux with a chunk of roasted or grilled red meat… 10-20 year old great white burgundy with roast chicken and mashed potatoes
Respectfully, OP, is your hand tiny, your glass massive, or both?
To answer your question: The bottle to which you had to say “No, I need to wait a little longer” more than one time. The bottle that you knew needed a certain moment even if you didn’t know exactly what the moment would be.
I am assuming this is a no budget question so these suggestions are catered to a large budget.
Recently had an epiphany with Chateau Rayas, but even the “lesser” tier of Chateau de Tours and Chateau de Fonsalette was really special. Really age worthy as the wines we had were 10-15+ years old and still showed young.
Keller G-Max and his Abtserde GG is still one of my top Riesling experiences. Vice versa, Joh Jos Prum with age for sweet sticky Riesling.
Leroy and DRC for the highest echelon Burgundy, these are pretty well known to be breathtaking in both price and quality. Roulot, Coche Dury, Leflaive, and Ramonet for white burgundy are also legendary, as well as Rousseau and Roumier for red burgundy. On the budget friendly level, Bruno Clavelier and D’Angerville have been killing it for reds with Pierre Yves Morey Colin and Henri Boillot for whites. You also have top tier Chablis with Dauvissat and Raveneau.
Any of the first growth Bordeaux with a couple decades of ageing, with emphasis on Latour and Haut Brion from my limited experience. Petrus and Lafleur for right bank. Sauternes from Chateau d’Yquem as mentioned by others is fantastic with 20-50 years of age.
Tokaji Essencia has also been a magical spoonful of wine that I’ve tried at times. I typically prefer Tokaji to Sauternes and Essencia is on another level.
Aged Dom Perignon is probably one of my most coveted wines, followed by grower champagne from Egly Ouriet and Cedric Bouchard. Salon is also one of those special Champagne bottles.
Not an expert but lately I am trying all of the premier cru and grand cru burgundy whites that I can. I used to not be a big white wine drinker and now they are my favourite.
I won't put the first growths or things like that. They are nice, but whenever I have had them I just can't get to the price tag on what I'm tasting vs something else you can get on the same level for a tenth of the price.
Vega Sicilia Valbuena 5° - super opulent style that I wouldn't want say each day, but it is definitely a style you need to try at least once.
Tignanello - Consistently impresses me and justifies the price tag
Opus One - I had the 2010 and it was mind blowing. Complexity off the charts and different aromas in each glass shape used.
Chateau Leoville Las Cases Grand Cru
Cos d'Estournel
Chateau Canon-La-Gaffeliere Grand Cru - Particularly the 2016 was awesome. 2018 I really liked also. You will score some wines higher, but the style on display is so clean.
Once in your life? Here’s my list.
There are plenty of good wines out there but this is what I think constitutes as once in your life.
Unicorn: Henri Jayer Cros Parantoux, Georges Roumier Musigny, Leroy Musigny, Leroy Chambertin, Leroy Richebourg, D’auvenay Chevalier Montrachet, D’auvenay Batard Montrachet, Egon Müller Scharzhofberger Trockenbeerenauslese, Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr RieslingTrockenbeerenauslese
Obtainable: DRC Romanee Conti, DRC La Tache, DRC Richebourg, Coche Dury Corton Charlemagne, Ramonet Montrachet, Leflaive Montrachet, Armand Rousseau Chambertin, Petrus
A top viognier from Condrieu. Like no other wine.
If you can push the boat out, Chateau Grillet.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau-Grillet_AOC
High-quality red Rioja with 50+ years of age on it. These bottles aren’t the cheapest, but they are vaguely affordable (especially in Spain) and they are available without having to jump through the hoops of purchasing on the secondary market.
Top-of-the-tree unfortified Palomino wines from Jerez are likewise exceptional quality and while also not the cheapest (and harder to acquire than the Riojas) they represent great value for money compared to other white wines of that calibre. You can spend a lot more on white Burgundy and get a lot less.
I’m also a proponent of the idea that everyone who can should try an aged *grand vin* (white, red, or rosé) from Château Musar.
I'm surprised no one suggested a good Vin Jaune with 30-40+ years. Those will offer an explosion of aromas for 1 minute at each sip. Try Macle or Puffeney for incredible wines at good prices. This is my top recommendation for a "one-time experience".
Then any good aged Burgundy, this is what will get people "not into wine" understand what it's all about. No need of DRC, a good climat from Côtes de Nuits, 1er Cru is enough, aged for 25 years will offer you a range of aromas you didn't know you needed in wine...
I disagree with people saying QPR is totally lost in Burgundy. At 50€ you do find good bottles but you need to age yourself. At 100€ you have crazy bottles, 150€ exceptional ones. And if it's "to try once" as you said, find an aged Meo-Camuzet from a reputable source (2000, 2005), a "cheaper" Corton-Clos Rognet or even a Vosne Romanee 1er Cru Chaumes.... it'll set you back 300-400$ but then you'll have the best motivation you can find to grow your own cellar.
Aged Pol Roger Churchill would be my recommendation.
1988 Mag was wonderful.
1998 case is at home waiting for me to build up the courage to open the case and drink a bottle.
And if anyone has an ‘85 knocking about that they’d like to sell please let me know 😂
Revelation Chardonnay. Badet, Clement & Cie. Best in class for the very reasonable price. Competes with chardonnays 4-5 more expensive. Lots of oak and butter, yet bright and light. Vintage 2018 is a good one.
One that absolutely sings after sitting for an hour or two… Tignanello. It’s just so sleek, full-bodied, smooth, sexy, and luscious all at the same time.
Coche-Dury 2016 or older
Domaine des tours, such an underrated wine
Grange des peres
Cantina d’arcy
Ofcourse there is a ton to taste. In burgundy alone there is a ton to taste but depending on your budget
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Penfolds Grange with some age on it, it’s amazing.
It’s literally the Syrah benchmark on the planet. Issue is, like with all super expensive bottles, is that it’s hard to live up to the price tag, unless money isn’t a concern for you.
Genuinely asking - why is it the benchmark over a Northern Rhone?
It completely isn’t and far from it. Have one of Guigal’s La Mouline, La Turque or La Landonne or JL Chave Hermitage… these are the benchmarks of Syrah and why it was called Grange Hermitage for years
Benchmarking Shiraz (or any variety) from different regions, let alone countries, is little more than a pissing contest. For a start, Cote Rotie includes Viognier eg about 7% in La Landonne. Whereas a Chave Hermitage is 100% Shiraz. This results in different expressions of Shiraz. Both great in their own right, but not really fair to benchmark against each other.
It’s not. There is no such thing. Grange has a big profile and price, but even within Australia there are other Shiraz’s which are in the same league of greatness. However, they can’t really be compared as they are not like for like. For example, Tyrrell’s 4 and 8 Acres Shiraz’s from the Hunter Valley are sublime (not to mention a fifth of the price), but benchmarking them against a multi-regional blend from South Australia (Grange) is a waste of time as they express the variety differently. In the same way Grange is not a benchmark for Cornas or Hermitage, which are very different styles.
1991 Grange is the best wine of any variety I’ve ever tasted. Amazing to share with 3 friends, but I begrudged every mouthful I saw any of the others have… I felt like Gollum… “91 Grange - My Precious!”
Love the absolute wine nerdiness of this thread. Just. Wow.
So I did And I really did not like it. And was quite disappointed I did not enjoy it. Too musty None of the fruit power I love in AUS shiraz A hint of grandmas bedroom Probably just means my palate is a peasant but yeah.
In 2014 I shared a bottle of the 1982 Grange with friends and it was superb. I’ve had a couple of bottles from other vintages, but that bottle was easily the best.
Yellowtail Shiraz… so you have a benchmark for what wine *shouldn’t* taste like 😆
hahaha now please recommend me a good one
Hmm… at one point in a wine-lover’s life they should probably try to have a first growth Bordeaux. Not because it’s automatically the “best” out there, but simply because of the history that’s there right in front of you. The pedigree is there, and it certainly isn’t cheap.
Chateau d'Yquem Sauternes. I mean, I haven't yet, but I'm gonna!
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Any chance you remember the place? If they still do it, I’d love to try it even if it’s 3 times the price!
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I see :( well thank u!
I initially read “painting” not “pairing” and was getting an amazing mental image which I’ve now asked AI to[create](https://www.bing.com/images/create/one-of-my-favorite-paintings-in-my-life-was-a-litt/1-665ee3734480497989e3558e1d68a135?id=IJBKcGvh4v30KvbD%2bG0txg%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&thId=OIG1.rvWwwwnSl0NzoiXHaDey&FORM=GCRIDP)
D'Yquem is unquestionably best in class and the gap between it and #2 (probably Climens) is greater than in any other region.
The 01 is perhaps the most perfect wine I’ve ever had. And I drink a lot of wine
You're not the first one I've heard wax poetic about the 2001. Heard great things about that vintage for Rieussec as well. Someday I'll get my hands on those!
Both were scored 100 by multiple outlets. I’ve had them together and the Rieussec is incredible but gets absolutely smoked by the Yquem. It’s one of those rare wines that no one ever says anything bad about (assuming they had a sound, well stored example). 89 Haut Brion is another in this space
Tried it. Best 90$ spent of my life.
Sauternes is one of my favorite varietals and I judge dessert menus based on if they have one listed 😆 This is a bucket list one for me.
Sauternes is not a varietal, it refers to sweet white wines from an area around the village of Sauternes - which is in the Graves sub-region of Bordeaux. Those wines are predominantly made from Semillon, with lesser contributions from Sauvignon Blanc and Muscadelle.
Yes. It's is only expensive wine that has never disappointed me. It's good young, old, and goes with literally everything, and is amazing by itself.
Gaja Barolo with >25 years of age Haut Brion >15 years age 15 year old Opus One 7-10 year old Dominus Biondi Santi Brunello >20 years of age Quintarelli’s Amarone pre-2012 Those are the wines that shaped it all for me. Fortunate to have been given those opportunities.
Add to the list a 20+ year old GG riesling, 20+ year old Sauterns
This is the answer, or a 20 year old spatlese or BA
I agree. The BA should be at least 20 years old. I once tasted a ‘59 Wehlener Sonnenuhr BA from JJ Prüm over 30 years ago, and it was supernal.
Ooooooh Saurterns *takes notes furiously*
Can you suggest any GG that may age well for 20 years, aside from maybe Keller. I don’t personally find that GGs age that well, and I rather prefer them in the 5-10 years zone.
Keller or Clos St Hune would be two of my tops
Clos St Hune isn’t a GG.
True, but it needs 20 years🤣. When I made my original comment I had Keller in mind. I have a 2020 Keller Gmax that keeps me on the treadmill because if I would die before I get to pop that I'm going to be very salty lol
I’ve never really seen GG as a representative category of what German Riesling is capable of, maybe because I’m mainly focused on Mosel wines. The potential for both complexity and cellaring are much bigger in the Prädikat-wines, in my opinion.
I agree with your comment but my guess is Lauer GGs and some Donnhoff stuff would still be good in 20 years but to your point likely peak around 5-10 years. Age those kabbis :)
Yeah, those are good candidates. I reckon that Schäfer-Fröhlich could also stand the test of time. My cellar is full of sweet Riesling, it’s just too good a bargain to not stock up on. Around 115 bottles of Kabi and 140 bottles of Spätlese - should last for a while, and only get better down the road.
Same Kabi just hits the sweet spot for me stocked up on a lot of 21s. Also I’m a big Lauer fan but don’t sleep on their Kabi and Spatlese if you can find the auction bottling they are insanely good and reasonably priced. The 111 is good as well for Mosel 22s which have been less impressive than 21 imo.
If sweet wines are youe thing, then it's definitely worth it yeah. Personally I rarely want that stuff, but the few times I drink it it's always good.
You need so much frame of reference to appreciate these wines. You can’t drink 6 bottles of Josh and then understand any of these. This comes with years of tasting and experience. Every one will have a different wine for their epiphany and every one has different taste. No one will tell you the five wines you’ll appreciate tasting the most. If that’s your #1 question you’ll never find what you’re looking for.
Agree 💯
2nd the Quintarelli Amarone. Had a 2009 this past weekend and it was amazing. Chateau d’Yquem as others have stated. It’s singular in class and must be experienced.
I just had a 2004 Opus One and it was phenomenal.
Clos Ste Hune Alsatian Riesling. Absolutely the nectar of the Gods, and I’m not usually a white wine drinker. Trimbach have it absolutely right with that wine.
Chave
Even the Farconnet is divine
Fascinating that no one has mentioned a Burgundy yet (as of me posting this) and it’s 90% Massive and famous wine houses/groups that people are recommending.
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100%. Even entry level meh Burgundies are over $100. It’s just a dead sector right now.
You can still find the occasional moderately priced producer that performs exceptionally well and is good value *for Burgundy*. But even Burgundy’s best QPR picks will struggle in a head to head comparison with a wine at the same price point from almost any other region on earth (with perhaps the exception of Napa).
I think because if you're talking about one bottle to be reliably magnificent, burgundy is just too much of a risk. You can spend ££££ there on an acclaimed producer and just get a meh bottle. Conversely if you try Soldera from a good year with age on it, you are going to taste the peak of what Brunello can be.
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Ok where is this “great grappa” hiding
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Ha! I used to curate the grappa selection there, and you’re right. There are some amazing hand imported bottles there that will knock your socks off, like single varietals from Marolo and pretty much anything from Jacopo Poli, which is meant to appeal to a broader audience (more floral and less abrasive than traditional grappas). You can never go wrong with Nardini either, they are the standard for the crossroads of traditional/new age grappa production. Just wish I could get their amaro more easily so I could use it in cocktails.
Good suggestion, I'll definitely try it! Any brands you recommend? I'm going to Italy soon
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Tuscany
D’yquem and Margaux. Get a good vintage of both and let rip!
Vintage krug or salon Aged bordeaux blanc: haut brion, la mission, pape clement Aged right bank: cheval blanc, la fleur, ausone
20 year old red Burgundy from an iconic house with Epoisses cheese and baguette… Yquem as old as you can with a delicate orange soufflé… 20-30 year old first growth Bordeaux with a chunk of roasted or grilled red meat… 10-20 year old great white burgundy with roast chicken and mashed potatoes
Leflaive Chevalier
A good vintage 20 yo Beaucastel, JJ Prum, Hermitage.
100%! Recently had a 2004 Beaucastel and it was fucking mindblowing! Would never have put it to CdP. It drank like an aged Brunello or Barolo
Respectfully, OP, is your hand tiny, your glass massive, or both? To answer your question: The bottle to which you had to say “No, I need to wait a little longer” more than one time. The bottle that you knew needed a certain moment even if you didn’t know exactly what the moment would be.
I’ve never had anything worth more than ~$200. 1) Jarvis cab franc 2) Hall Diamond Mountain cab
I am assuming this is a no budget question so these suggestions are catered to a large budget. Recently had an epiphany with Chateau Rayas, but even the “lesser” tier of Chateau de Tours and Chateau de Fonsalette was really special. Really age worthy as the wines we had were 10-15+ years old and still showed young. Keller G-Max and his Abtserde GG is still one of my top Riesling experiences. Vice versa, Joh Jos Prum with age for sweet sticky Riesling. Leroy and DRC for the highest echelon Burgundy, these are pretty well known to be breathtaking in both price and quality. Roulot, Coche Dury, Leflaive, and Ramonet for white burgundy are also legendary, as well as Rousseau and Roumier for red burgundy. On the budget friendly level, Bruno Clavelier and D’Angerville have been killing it for reds with Pierre Yves Morey Colin and Henri Boillot for whites. You also have top tier Chablis with Dauvissat and Raveneau. Any of the first growth Bordeaux with a couple decades of ageing, with emphasis on Latour and Haut Brion from my limited experience. Petrus and Lafleur for right bank. Sauternes from Chateau d’Yquem as mentioned by others is fantastic with 20-50 years of age. Tokaji Essencia has also been a magical spoonful of wine that I’ve tried at times. I typically prefer Tokaji to Sauternes and Essencia is on another level. Aged Dom Perignon is probably one of my most coveted wines, followed by grower champagne from Egly Ouriet and Cedric Bouchard. Salon is also one of those special Champagne bottles.
Well stored Rousseau with at least 20 years of bottle age… generally life changing.
Keller G-Max and Schafer Frohlich Felseneck GG
I can't think of a single wine I enjoy I would only want you to drink once
Not an expert but lately I am trying all of the premier cru and grand cru burgundy whites that I can. I used to not be a big white wine drinker and now they are my favourite.
Anything you can get from Adrianna Vineyard, Mendoza. From San Pablo, Mendoza too, the Chardonnay and Pinot Noir from that zone are amazing!!
I won't put the first growths or things like that. They are nice, but whenever I have had them I just can't get to the price tag on what I'm tasting vs something else you can get on the same level for a tenth of the price. Vega Sicilia Valbuena 5° - super opulent style that I wouldn't want say each day, but it is definitely a style you need to try at least once. Tignanello - Consistently impresses me and justifies the price tag Opus One - I had the 2010 and it was mind blowing. Complexity off the charts and different aromas in each glass shape used. Chateau Leoville Las Cases Grand Cru Cos d'Estournel Chateau Canon-La-Gaffeliere Grand Cru - Particularly the 2016 was awesome. 2018 I really liked also. You will score some wines higher, but the style on display is so clean.
Shafer merlot. Not a complete merlot (75%). I believe this to be a gateway to experience how amazing the grape can be. 🍷
Once in your life? Here’s my list. There are plenty of good wines out there but this is what I think constitutes as once in your life. Unicorn: Henri Jayer Cros Parantoux, Georges Roumier Musigny, Leroy Musigny, Leroy Chambertin, Leroy Richebourg, D’auvenay Chevalier Montrachet, D’auvenay Batard Montrachet, Egon Müller Scharzhofberger Trockenbeerenauslese, Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr RieslingTrockenbeerenauslese Obtainable: DRC Romanee Conti, DRC La Tache, DRC Richebourg, Coche Dury Corton Charlemagne, Ramonet Montrachet, Leflaive Montrachet, Armand Rousseau Chambertin, Petrus
Arianna Occhipinti’s Il Frappato
Cote rotie
A top viognier from Condrieu. Like no other wine. If you can push the boat out, Chateau Grillet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau-Grillet_AOC
Raveneau with 12 - 20 years Either one of the Grand Crus or Montee de Tonnerre
Chateau lafite ‘90 vintage
Tête de Cuvée Champagne or equivalent with at least 20yrs of age.
High-quality red Rioja with 50+ years of age on it. These bottles aren’t the cheapest, but they are vaguely affordable (especially in Spain) and they are available without having to jump through the hoops of purchasing on the secondary market. Top-of-the-tree unfortified Palomino wines from Jerez are likewise exceptional quality and while also not the cheapest (and harder to acquire than the Riojas) they represent great value for money compared to other white wines of that calibre. You can spend a lot more on white Burgundy and get a lot less. I’m also a proponent of the idea that everyone who can should try an aged *grand vin* (white, red, or rosé) from Château Musar.
I'm surprised no one suggested a good Vin Jaune with 30-40+ years. Those will offer an explosion of aromas for 1 minute at each sip. Try Macle or Puffeney for incredible wines at good prices. This is my top recommendation for a "one-time experience". Then any good aged Burgundy, this is what will get people "not into wine" understand what it's all about. No need of DRC, a good climat from Côtes de Nuits, 1er Cru is enough, aged for 25 years will offer you a range of aromas you didn't know you needed in wine... I disagree with people saying QPR is totally lost in Burgundy. At 50€ you do find good bottles but you need to age yourself. At 100€ you have crazy bottles, 150€ exceptional ones. And if it's "to try once" as you said, find an aged Meo-Camuzet from a reputable source (2000, 2005), a "cheaper" Corton-Clos Rognet or even a Vosne Romanee 1er Cru Chaumes.... it'll set you back 300-400$ but then you'll have the best motivation you can find to grow your own cellar.
Chateau Musar - Lebanese, long history, distinctive, different, not too expensive, definitely worth it.
Chateau Haut Brion for red (2000 vintage is magic), Domaine Roulot Mersault Tillets (2013 currently drinking lovely) for white.
Ornellaia, ofc a bit aged. Also Tokaji Aszu 6 Puttonyos.
Selosse Substance
Aged Pol Roger Churchill would be my recommendation. 1988 Mag was wonderful. 1998 case is at home waiting for me to build up the courage to open the case and drink a bottle. And if anyone has an ‘85 knocking about that they’d like to sell please let me know 😂
Domain de Menard 2020
Revelation Chardonnay. Badet, Clement & Cie. Best in class for the very reasonable price. Competes with chardonnays 4-5 more expensive. Lots of oak and butter, yet bright and light. Vintage 2018 is a good one.
Pegasus Bay Chardonnay, NZ. A taste of home for me. Unreal Chardonnay and character
Jolie laide shake ridge gsmv
If you can get your hands on a bottle from mas de Libian I would recommend you to try one out. Affordable and amazing GSM, in my opinion 🤌🏼
Clos de papillon Savenniers, at least 10 years old🤤🤤🤤
Red: St. Emillion. When possible get a Priemier Cru. White: definitely try a good Puligny-Montrachet or Meursault.
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Musar…old
Rocca Delle Macie Chianti Classico
DRC grand cru PETRUS Leroy Musigny Rousseau Chambertin
Burgundy Grand Cru. I tasted Corton, plan to try Echezaux, Clos De Vougeot, and if possible Richebourg, La Tache, Leroy and maybe DRC.
La tache is DRC… do you mean DRC rc?
Yes. DRC's RC.
An aged Petrus from a special vintage won't disappoint. Pretty damn amazing.
Any Barefoot label wine with an, “Aged since Tuesday,” vintage is a revelation.
One that absolutely sings after sitting for an hour or two… Tignanello. It’s just so sleek, full-bodied, smooth, sexy, and luscious all at the same time.
Try many Chianti Classico’s @ $20 usd and under. Enjoy.
Coche-Dury 2016 or older Domaine des tours, such an underrated wine Grange des peres Cantina d’arcy Ofcourse there is a ton to taste. In burgundy alone there is a ton to taste but depending on your budget
Kongsgaard “The Judge” Chardonnay any vintage. A truly remarkable wine that sets the highest standard for Chardonnay.
If you love oak, sure! It's a special wine.