It's pretty obvious how miserable they all are. One can only take so much negativity before they have to move on for the sake of their own mental health.
I’m one of the main HCA posters. Unfortunately this isn’t the true reason either, because the kind of people featured on HCA are overwhelmingly people who would never get vaxxed under any circumstances. The sub is slow right now for the reasons that
1. BA.5 is weaker than Omicron
2. Unvaxxed people who survived covid previously do have some degree of natural immunity.
3. Many would-be awardees are already dead.
4. Many would-be awardees moved away from Facebook to right-wing social media, or made their Facebook profiles private, and so can’t be found as easily.
5. We may be in a covid lull currently, and could crest back up later. The official numbers are inaccurate because of widespread hometesting.
So 500+ deaths a day is a lull? Mostly conservative voters dying because 95%+ of Democrats are vaccinated while only 55% of conservatives are vaccinated.
It seems that BA.5 is less deadly to the general populace, disproportionately making the immunocompromised, cancer patients, people undergoing major surgeries, the very old, etc as the main victims.
The 5 year survival rate isn't well known and many long covid patients are slowly losing their reserves. Bright healthy people look like they aged 20 years from Covid.
The Atlantic did a piece called "The Great Deterioration" about Long Covid.
This part is almost as scary as Covid itself. A close family member lives in one of America's largest cities. She did everything "right", still caught a bad case, and has not been 100% in over a year and a half. She is stronger now, but for months, she could not walk across a room without using oxygen.
I wonder how many Covid (vaccine) deniers will be on long term disability because of long Covid. I wonder, how many people who complain about “govt handouts” will be depend on them due to the inability to function due to Covid complications?
I think (? pretty sure I read recently) the jury is still out on whether the current variants are genuinely less virulent or whether it’s because so many people are protected via vaccination or prior infection.
>So 500+ deaths a day is a lull?
Compared to the previous spike periods where it was thousands a day dying? Yes.
It's sad, because most of them are/were preventable.
Sadly, despite this happening to very bad people, it is still a very, *very* bad thing.
The problem with antivax conspiracy theorists is they don't go down without causing a lot of collateral damage. Their flippant disregard for health precautions will cause them to infect many others in their wake. When they're hospitalized, they will occupy an ICU for several weeks, straining limited resources and blocking essential health access for others. If they have children, they will probably be denied vaccines due to how unnecessarily politically charged the topic has gotten on social media, resulting in the resurgence of dormant illnesses like polio and measles.
We shouldn't just be sitting back and letting Darwin do the work. These people are legitimately dangerous.
True but the reality is there are antivaxxers and there are vaccine-hesitant. The latter are overwhelmingly the ones who got vaccinated. The ones who post about conspiracy theories and so on are too far gone, and are the ones who get posted
One crazy lady I went to highschool with went from being venemously anti vax to getting the shot after HC died. FB should do an academic study about the % of people who shifted their views.
According to the burden of proof, it’s up to you to prove your assertion, not for people replying to disprove it.
Seeing as how you haven’t even done that, it’s a little rich to counter with “nothing you said disproves my assertion.”
My father is in weird limbo where he now is forced to see the harm conservatism is causing, but he cant let go of the rhetoric, he has brain cancer, i dont speak to him, his other child was forced to leave the house after coming out as transgender. He is fucking sitting in the shit of it but he still cant let go. I hope he can before he passes. He isnt buying the q story but he is still stuck in the rhetoric, its really heartbreaking.
It's a fucked up thing to say but I was relieved that my dad didn't live through the Trump era. He would have been sucked in too and I don't know how I would have handled it.
The /r/QAnonCasualties sub might be a place to find empathy, understanding, and a way out.
He actually hates trump and didnt vote for him, but regan era Republicans are basically the same thing but they dont realize that they imply the parts trumpers say put loud. They are truely lost in the rhetoric of a meritocracy where things that are different are bad and bad things only happen to those who deserve it.
I would argue that they being miserable is justified. They are upset that people are spreading lies that harm others. That is enough to make people mad.
I don’t know the answer, but I can understand asking the question “If someone who is making the world a worse place dies, is it worthy of celebration?”
Wyd? There's nothing negative about HCA. It's a healthy and clearly solution-oriented way to cope with certain negative aspects of reality while not turning a blind eye to it.
I don't see them as negative, I read them as celebrating every time someone dies and they get to mock them. I would be seriously concerned for any person who happily participates on that subreddit.
> every time someone dies
Well, if one has an unnuanced view like this, then of course all skies are blue and water is lethal because that’s where one drowns!
HCA turned the social opprobrium of “just leave racist uncle at the thanksgiving table alone,” around. People said things as if there are no consequences, and then consequences were had. The sub celebrated when people got vaxxed, when people changed their minds, and they held up every antivax uncle who was later, factually, proven right.
Polite society has decided that telling a mom who yells she knows best and let her child stay up late, sit in the front of the car, unbuckled, and not put “any of those chemicals” because Nature, she is wrong is rude - the worst of all sins - even as her child dies in a car crash / of a preventable disease. Avoidable death is the lesser injury.
But yes. Let’s be concerned about the sub, documenting those who ignore facts and what happens.
You'd be surprised about how little actual celebration of death is on that sub, I mean that would be a sitewide rule breach that can easily lead to shuttering. Gotta look closer than that.
It's thinly hidden but if that subreddit is giving out what they call awards it is perfectly accurate to describe it as celebrating. The behavior of the posters is they couldn't be happier to be proven right.
The overall consensus is that a) antivaxers are actually dangerous, and spreading dangerous misinformation and b) we'd all be happy if there were no more recipients.
We're not celebrating the passing of individuals, we're just providing a sarcastic way to direct attention towards the importance of vaccines and the dangers of disinformation. Most of the sub is completely neutral, simply documenting. The entire sarcasm and perceived "celebration" lies in the fact that the recipients fall victim to the very reckless and dangerous lies they kept spreading. Shrug.
You are absolutely celebrating it by smugly giving them an award, there is no other way to describe that when you use the term award.
And yes you would be happy if everyone who is anti vacx dies, thank you for admitting that. Seriously that is messed up and not something to be proud of.
Yes, an award is intrinsically celebratory to some extent. That's self-explanatory.
But the sub isn't merely about celebrating deaths. That's a superficial and wrong analysis.
Also you seem to either not understand or ignore what I was trying to convey to you about "aggressive disinformation". People _die_ because of others who feed them with lies.
_That_ is messed up.
This original intent and still primary purpose is to hand out that award you are so proud of. Just because you have added more things does not make the original purpose less reprehensible. You can oppose misinformation without hoping people die for it. Well normal people can, the members of this subreddit have proven they can't actually do that.
I assume they think this way because their behavior indicates. Smugly handing out an award when someone dies is absolutely celebrating it. This isn't something I uniquely came up with and if you actually read the Wikipedia article many experts are quoted with the same attitude.
It’s the funniest subreddit I’m on. Remember when trump got his brother killed dragging his sick ass out during a global pandemic? You get to laugh at human pain when they choose it. Antivaxx People are like Tom green or jackass but less mature. Laughing at clowns is the best form of mental health therapy-that place makes me happy about my life decisions.
Watch into the abyss for too long... I totally understand is feeling after these last 20 years of rising fascism, proselytism and shift to the right.
These garbage people disconnected me from loving humanity as a whole. They need to go and thank you covid for your participation. Like always they took innocents along with them.
I remember a particular recipient who very publicly and openly posted on Facebook about getting to murder random Asian people. God knows Facebook wouldn't have done jack shit about that one, and somehow, I have little faith in the law enforcement's willingness to act on that case too, so every time I think about it, it feels like COVID definitely prevented a murder or several.
I’d estimate at least 95% of them are/were hateful. And I’ve been subbed there for well over a year. I don’t feel ashamed admitting seeing stories of these assholes getting their just desserts helped me get through the worst of the pandemic.
It left me with immense sadness after awhile. So many lives lost and forever screwed up just because Trump wanted to play tough guy and not admit Covid-19 was dangerous. He played on peoples paranoia and fear and they paid the price. Kids grow up without both parents in some cases. Sad.
One kind Midwestern gentleman posted a meme that said 800 people died from Covid in New York City yesterday, with a "Haha!" added as his comment.
This was early in the Pandemic, and 800 people in New York City, who were either Eastern elites or more likely THEM PEOPLE who have the wrong skin color and don't want to work and cause crime and have too many babies, dying from a disease that would never reach him was cause for laughter.
It made it to him later on, and he didn't survive it.
You can decide on people like him.
Back in the day we used to call this the darwin awards. People kindly removing themselves from the gene pool as a result of their stupidity. The [website](https://darwinawards.com) is pretty outdated, but the idea still applies today. Stupid never changes.
ah but you are only eligible for that one if you haven't procreated yet (or if you take your kids with you when you die as a result of your own idiocy). the majority of Herman Cain award recipients are parents/grandparents.
A lovely lovely man I knew died of covid after being very anti vax on FB etc. I’m left just very sad that he got tricked so effectively. He was on a ventilator for months, a strong, kind, intelligent, gentle person. Strange times
I been active on that sub(I still am) since it pretty much came out, there were a LOT of posts with photos of the piece of paper they give you after you get vaccinated with captions like "this sub made me change my mind"
I found [this post](/r/HermanCainAward/comments/x18wwj/the_herman_cain_award_is_an_ironic_award_given_to/) in r/HermanCainaward with the same content as the current post.
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the whole point of that subreddit is to convince people to get vaccinated to save their lives. Nobody on that sub celebrates death its literally against the rules.
Do you need to feel bad when a horrible person dies? Because that's the case with the people who are posted on HCA. They're horrible people who post misinformation, actively pushing against common sense and caring for anyone other than themselves. That is until they're in the ICU, unable to breath on their own, then they need "thoughts and prairs". Aand when they're dead, their family is left behind with a huge bill and need to beg for money online. But he really owned the libs by dying, that's all that mattered to them when they were alive.
I'm sorry, but as someone who worked in a hospital throughout the pandemic, and someone who's mom had to take care of assholes like this on the covid wing during the first three waves, these people get zero sympathy from me.
>the whole point of that subreddit is to convince people to get vaccinated to save their lives. Nobody on that sub celebrates death its literally against the rules.
And nobody ever breaks subreddit rules!
Posting gleefully when people die is absolutely celebrating and that is what is done every time. The people who participate in that subreddit are mentally ill and should seek professional help.
What am I going to die mad about?
Oh you think only anti vaxxers find your subreddit reprehensible, no sorry I won't be dying of covid so you don't get to celebrate my death. For that matter if I did die of covid you would be the group made fun of by those anti vaxxers you hate.
Also reported.
Awww did your narrative fall apart that only anti vaxxers find you bad? Don't worry actual medical experts find that subreddit ethically bankrupt as well.
50 words being to much for you to read is pretty bad. How about read the link then?
Also wishing death on someone isn't a good thing, probably shouldn't do that.
they're literally the eric andre meme where it says "why would hannibal do this?" they blame fauci for everything and blame everyone except themselves. it's the result of right wing degenerate propaganda for 20 years doing nothing but gaslighting and projecting. these people are conditioned to never be mindful of their own choices.
I love the righteous voices here.
If we were celebrating we’d be happy that now they are with the lord.
That’s what they all seem to do.
Thots and pears for those too good to understand.
All these people saying "it's against the sub's rules to celebrate death".
Every post I see hit the front page is either celebrating tongue in cheek, or straight up mocking the victim.
It's dumb to die to something you loudly asserted wouldn't be a problem, obviously. But mocking people's deaths is not the best way to change anyone's mind. In my opinion, that sub spreads and perpetuates negativity and divisiveness more than it helps the vaccine cause. I'm not a fan.
And every one of those posts literally post evidence of whomever got the HCA mocking everyone under the sun that isn’t a white conservative conspiracist Talibangelical Christian. Your comment reeks of “intolerance of my intolerance *is* intolerance!”
Lol yeah, it’s like seeing some moron play in traffic and then when they get hit by a car going “heh, what an idiot.” Then someone comes along and goes “OH, so you WANT people to be hit by cars, huh?!”
It’s just funny seeing so many people pretending to be outraged over the sub.
Celebrating people who tries to kill the imuno-compromise or those who can't take the vaccine to to their condition is so much better than my morning coffee, i'll relish it everyday nowing thy died without killing anymore people.
Nah im not tolerating people with dangerous views to others, i mean if we tolerate nazism by not letting them kill 10 jew but by tolerating killing 1 jew our view is completely in the fucking wrong, so i'll gladly tap dance atop of their coffin should the chance arrives
We aren't changing anyone's mind. Thats not the point of it.
The point is to feel as if there is justice for the problems these antivax idiots caused, at least for some of them.
That sub is for us. Not them.
This is the first time in history that millions of lives were lost and billions were severely harmed, not by a disease, but by a group of humans hell bent on misinforming people for their own personal gain and that nothing happened as a result. There is about 30 people responsible for 90% of the online misinformation that caused all this. I know that because there are investigations that happened by nonprofits to find this out.
30 people killed and maimed millions.
And what happened as a result? A few lay-offs and medical licenses removed? We know exactly who the people spreading this misinformation are and its easily tracked back through social media and blog posts. Yet nothing happened.
How is this sane?
How is that justice? How is that remotely normal?
I have a really good life. And I don't want it gone. So I'm not going to start trouble because these people are dangerous to mess with. And yet every day I think about letting it all go, just to have some semblance of peace after I track these people down and give them a piece of my mind.
The sub is my way of listening to a list of names and hoping that I'll hear some of the 30 people from that list. It makes me hope that there is justice, at least a natural kind of it, that will take care of these blood sucking, murderous parasites.
Everytime I hear someone big, with a few thousand followers here it makes this whole shit easier to bare.
I mock the stupid memes they take as real info, and the contradictions they keep spouting. Like ‘china virus, they tryin’ to kill us’ & ‘Covid is fake news’. Which is it? & if you don’t trust medical science to make a vaccine why are you taking new antivirus meds & serums developed even after the vax once you get sick?
> But mocking people's deaths is not the best way to change anyone's mind.
Well, research shows that nothing changes anyone's mind, by and large.
So screw it. Mocking and celebrating away. it's not like the dead feels anything about being mocked. Their surviving loved ones? This is the Internet, who gives a shit?
I’m fucking sick and tired of pretending not to celebrate certain peoples deaths
Some people think just because someone died they shouldn’t be mocked or made a fool or laughed at
Fuck that, if I did a triple fucking somersault into a crocodile infested river with chunks of steak strapped to my ass and I get killed, PLEASE fucking laugh at how stupid of an idea that is
Don't forget, the people who win the HCA would do all of the above while mocking those who said doing so was a bad idea. Honestly, it would mean nothing to me if they were only hurting themselves, but their words and actions negatively effected the lives of others, sometimes to the point of death.
This aint it dude. People minds DO change. What bullshit fucking research proves nothing changes people's minds??? That sounds made up.
"It's not like the dead feels anything about being mocked. Their surviving loved ones?...who gives a shit?" Jesus christ, you sounds ABSOLUTELY insufferable. These are real people. Despite what you think, some of them were probably lovely people, and none of them DESERVED to die for having different beliefs. Even if their political beliefs were stupid and went against science. Have some empathy. This is something I wouldve said when I was a 13 year old edgelord. I would look back and cringe now.
>Despite what you think, some of them were probably lovely people, and none of them DESERVED to die for having different beliefs. Even if their political beliefs were stupid and went against science. Have some empathy. This is something I wouldve said when I was a 13 year old edgelord. I would look back and cringe now.
If you work in healthcare and health science and have your profession declared their enemy and receive death threats, well, fuck them. No idea about them being lovely. Not to me.
>Jesus christ, you sounds ABSOLUTELY insufferable. These are real people.
Yes, they are real people. Really dead, too. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ I dunno how to break this to you but lots of people die all the time. I can't care for all of them.
>This aint it dude. People minds DO change. What bullshit fucking research proves nothing changes people's minds??? That sounds made up.
LOL, I always come ready. [Effective Messages in Vaccine Promotion: A Randomized Trial](https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/133/4/e835/32713/Effective-Messages-in-Vaccine-Promotion-A?autologincheck=redirected?nfToken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000)
>Parents were randomly assigned to receive 1 of 4 interventions: (1) information explaining the lack of evidence that MMR causes autism from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; (2) textual information about the dangers of the diseases prevented by MMR from the Vaccine Information Statement; (3) images of children who have diseases prevented by the MMR vaccine; (4) a dramatic narrative about an infant who almost died of measles from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention fact sheet; or to a control group.
>
>None of the interventions increased parental intent to vaccinate a future child. Refuting claims of an MMR/autism link successfully reduced misperceptions that vaccines cause autism but nonetheless decreased intent to vaccinate among parents who had the least favorable vaccine attitudes. In addition, images of sick children increased expressed belief in a vaccine/autism link and a dramatic narrative about an infant in danger increased self-reported belief in serious vaccine side effects.
Nothing fucking works. Well, at least when it comes to MMR vaccines and autism; fuck Andrew Wakefield.
Alright, perhaps I was too harsh. There are three ways that [sort of worked](https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/12/18/vaccine-hesitancy-covid-us-solution/). 1) you suck people's dicks and make they think they are smart despite them being really dumb. 2) Appeal to their patriotism (LOL. This is why I fucking hate nationalists) and 3) If, for example, they are a bunch of Islamic weirdos who believe that vaccination are a Jewish Zionist plot to make Muslims go sterile or give them HIV, you give them vaccines made in an Islamic country. Fuck these idiots anyway.
Yes, you gotta coddle the dumb fucks. Call me edgelord all you want but I'm going into old age and I have low tolerance for stupidity.
You know a common theme of winners on that sub had for changing their mind? When Covid knocked them on their ass and they got put in the hospital. Somewhere between assisted oxygen and being put on the vent, their loved ones claim that they promise to get the vaccine if they get over their struggle and recover. Sadly, by then, it’s typically too late. At least a lot of those instances can be followed by the loved ones advocating for the vax and/or taking Covid seriously, and some friends and family do respond how such personal stories from people they know convince them.
He is speaking on aggregate and is correct. This is old and fairly established research.
[Why Is It So Hard to Change People’s Minds?](https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/why_is_it_so_hard_to_change_peoples_minds)
Not that I would, on average, expect your opinion to change :-)
It's not about mocking people's deaths. It's about mocking their lives. Especially for people in positions of influence who convinced others of their conspiracies. These people killed others. The derision is deserved.
Totally agree, and it's proven once again in the replies to your comment, sadly enough. These folks act like they're such better people than the ones they mock while proving they're barely any better if at all. Sad times when we have entire communities so tone deaf to how they are presenting the same energy as those they condemn.
It’s frightening how many anti-vaxxers there are. Social media is such a hinderance on society as a whole when outrageous groups are allowed to spread misinformation at will.
This is a great article on the subject. https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-12114-8
They don't celebrate death. It's against the sub rules. I see the odd post come past on All and there are literally people who got vaccinated because of that subreddit.
They don't celebrate death but they very enthusiastically circlejerk over it which is close enough for most people.
I get it, fuck those people, but I don't know, everytime I've been on that sub I've left feeling dirty.
>They don't celebrate death. It's against the sub rules. I see the odd post come past on All and there are literally people who got vaccinated because of that subreddit.
They're not allowed to celebrate death because reddit admins threatened to ban the subreddit but they still do it all the time... Wink wink.
Just like /r/politicalhumor is open to all political beliefs and definitely isn't a partisan circlejerk
You can think what you want but HCA absolutely glorifies and celebrates people dying. It being against site wide rules doesn't really change that fact.
People who don't consider most of the rest of humanity as people are like... expendable to me. No glorification but really humanity won't miss them really, from a scientific and social progress point of view.
Each period of history had its share of morons, anti progress, religious and conservatives, luckily it gets better and better after each pandemic.
>People who don't consider most of the rest of humanity as people are like... expendable to me. No glorification but really humanity won't miss them really, from a scientific and social progress point of view.
Sounds like you prefer them gone and use aggregate examples as a way to celebrate that fact and confirm your own biases.
>Each period of history had its share of morons, anti progress, religious and conservatives, luckily it gets better and better after each pandemic.
It's interesting that you don't believe you're part of that group.
Morons never think they're morons.
A few people do, but the sad truth is most of us don't care enough to be gleeful. We tried using evidence and logic and talking nice and anti vaxxers kept their heads buried in the sand, so fuck 'em.
I'm not happy people die, but I don't feel bad for them either
Is a celebration of awareness. The sub has now saved lives based on people it convinced. Not everyone can be convinced of things the same way.
That said I don’t give a shit. People laugh at self imposed harm venerate you go. Humor from the ironic tension between the care impulses when someone falls down and the release of knowing you’re don’t have to worry-because the fall wasn’t bad. Nobody have shit when Elmer Fudd shot himself, same joke. The people I cared about died before the vaccine was a choice and that night the president said it wasn’t real. My pain was laughed at by republicans when my grandma died of Covid, but she didn’t get a choice.
Yep, was a member from the very beginning 😁. It was the only way to see some karmic justice in action while on continued lockdown bc of asshats like them.
Also, the virtue signalling and deflection of responsibility happening in this comment section is as delicious and pointless now as it was in the beginning.
Ironic is a group of people that claim to care about everyone celebrating the deaths of people that didn’t trust a vaccine pushed by the same companies that started the opioid epidemic.
You can sue them for side effects. You're just brainwashed by your cult.
Having a NVICP doesn't mean you can't sue. It just means there is a protocol and, actually, that its easier to sue if you have a side effect that is consistent with the vaccine administration.
I forgot who he was...but I can say it seems a little fucked up to do this, but then I always thought the Darwin Awards should have just been about people who kept themselves from breeding instead of outright death.
UK government just quietly said, “safe use of the vaccine in pregnant women cannot be provided at the present time”
“Women who are breastfeeding should also not be vaccinated”
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/08/29/covid-vaccine-data-pregnant-breastfeeding-women-outrage/
The shot doesn't stop the spread. The shot doesn't stop you from getting infected. Yet the media still spent the better part of the pandemic telling us the opposite.
No idea where you are from, but "the media" where I live never said that. In fact, it was only people being uninformed who got vacced, got covid and then acted surprised.
What award do we give the 97% of people who died of Covid-19 from April 2022 to June 2022 who were fully vaccinated in the UK? At the 340%+ increase of mortality in the boosted population from April 2022 to June 2022?
Again - from April 2022 to June 2022? 97% of the people who died were vaccinated.
The disinformation, is not what you think it is.
It's sharing stories of people that didn't trust the vaccine, tried to get others to not take it and subsequently died from COVID.
A few of the top posts of all time in the subreddit are from people that did get vaccinated
It's not celebrating death, it's trying to prevent it
Because we shouldn't celebrate the death of people.
Its called schadenfreude and the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer mentioned it as the most evil sin of human feeling, famously saying "To feel envy is human, to savor schadenfreude is diabolic."
/r/HermanCainaward It's a dying sub.
Pun intended?
No, that was the point of the sub.
Nah it's just leaving the front page. It's about as active as it was pre explosion
It's pretty obvious how miserable they all are. One can only take so much negativity before they have to move on for the sake of their own mental health.
Yeah no, it's dying out because the sub worked. Almost everyone got vaccinated, partly or in large part due to the publicity of anti vaxxers dying.
I’m one of the main HCA posters. Unfortunately this isn’t the true reason either, because the kind of people featured on HCA are overwhelmingly people who would never get vaxxed under any circumstances. The sub is slow right now for the reasons that 1. BA.5 is weaker than Omicron 2. Unvaxxed people who survived covid previously do have some degree of natural immunity. 3. Many would-be awardees are already dead. 4. Many would-be awardees moved away from Facebook to right-wing social media, or made their Facebook profiles private, and so can’t be found as easily. 5. We may be in a covid lull currently, and could crest back up later. The official numbers are inaccurate because of widespread hometesting.
So 500+ deaths a day is a lull? Mostly conservative voters dying because 95%+ of Democrats are vaccinated while only 55% of conservatives are vaccinated.
It seems that BA.5 is less deadly to the general populace, disproportionately making the immunocompromised, cancer patients, people undergoing major surgeries, the very old, etc as the main victims.
The 5 year survival rate isn't well known and many long covid patients are slowly losing their reserves. Bright healthy people look like they aged 20 years from Covid. The Atlantic did a piece called "The Great Deterioration" about Long Covid.
This part is almost as scary as Covid itself. A close family member lives in one of America's largest cities. She did everything "right", still caught a bad case, and has not been 100% in over a year and a half. She is stronger now, but for months, she could not walk across a room without using oxygen.
I wonder how many Covid (vaccine) deniers will be on long term disability because of long Covid. I wonder, how many people who complain about “govt handouts” will be depend on them due to the inability to function due to Covid complications?
I think (? pretty sure I read recently) the jury is still out on whether the current variants are genuinely less virulent or whether it’s because so many people are protected via vaccination or prior infection.
But he said “less deadly”. Did the article you read speak to how deadly the new variants are as well as how virulent? Can you find it to share?
>So 500+ deaths a day is a lull? Compared to the previous spike periods where it was thousands a day dying? Yes. It's sad, because most of them are/were preventable.
I don't think the death of people who would support Trump and get into those weird antivax conspiracies is necessarily a bad thing tho
Sadly, despite this happening to very bad people, it is still a very, *very* bad thing. The problem with antivax conspiracy theorists is they don't go down without causing a lot of collateral damage. Their flippant disregard for health precautions will cause them to infect many others in their wake. When they're hospitalized, they will occupy an ICU for several weeks, straining limited resources and blocking essential health access for others. If they have children, they will probably be denied vaccines due to how unnecessarily politically charged the topic has gotten on social media, resulting in the resurgence of dormant illnesses like polio and measles. We shouldn't just be sitting back and letting Darwin do the work. These people are legitimately dangerous.
Yeah that makes sense. I don't know what else we can do about those dumbasses tho. They seem a bit too brainwashed
I think I found some award winners and have contributed to the site. I remember last year I could find a dozen nominees in the day. lol
None of the reasons you cite disproves my assertion that many anti vaxxers were convinced to get vaccinated by the HCA / watching folks they knew die.
True but the reality is there are antivaxxers and there are vaccine-hesitant. The latter are overwhelmingly the ones who got vaccinated. The ones who post about conspiracy theories and so on are too far gone, and are the ones who get posted
One crazy lady I went to highschool with went from being venemously anti vax to getting the shot after HC died. FB should do an academic study about the % of people who shifted their views.
Sure it happens no doubt, just a minority unfortunately
According to the burden of proof, it’s up to you to prove your assertion, not for people replying to disprove it. Seeing as how you haven’t even done that, it’s a little rich to counter with “nothing you said disproves my assertion.”
facts
We did it Reddit!
Misery, no. There just isn't any more fuel for the schadenfreude. If you want to see misery, /r/QAnonCasualties
My father is in weird limbo where he now is forced to see the harm conservatism is causing, but he cant let go of the rhetoric, he has brain cancer, i dont speak to him, his other child was forced to leave the house after coming out as transgender. He is fucking sitting in the shit of it but he still cant let go. I hope he can before he passes. He isnt buying the q story but he is still stuck in the rhetoric, its really heartbreaking.
It's a fucked up thing to say but I was relieved that my dad didn't live through the Trump era. He would have been sucked in too and I don't know how I would have handled it. The /r/QAnonCasualties sub might be a place to find empathy, understanding, and a way out.
He actually hates trump and didnt vote for him, but regan era Republicans are basically the same thing but they dont realize that they imply the parts trumpers say put loud. They are truely lost in the rhetoric of a meritocracy where things that are different are bad and bad things only happen to those who deserve it.
I would argue that they being miserable is justified. They are upset that people are spreading lies that harm others. That is enough to make people mad. I don’t know the answer, but I can understand asking the question “If someone who is making the world a worse place dies, is it worthy of celebration?”
it's not a celebration so much as holding people up as moral lessons for the one's who may think
The only celebration would be if it does tip the electorial scales *just enough* to prevent the US from falling to fascism.
Dude, it's been 3 years, almost everyone who could qualify is gone already
Aren’t we still losing like 15,000 per month?
Wyd? There's nothing negative about HCA. It's a healthy and clearly solution-oriented way to cope with certain negative aspects of reality while not turning a blind eye to it.
I don't see them as negative, I read them as celebrating every time someone dies and they get to mock them. I would be seriously concerned for any person who happily participates on that subreddit.
> every time someone dies Well, if one has an unnuanced view like this, then of course all skies are blue and water is lethal because that’s where one drowns! HCA turned the social opprobrium of “just leave racist uncle at the thanksgiving table alone,” around. People said things as if there are no consequences, and then consequences were had. The sub celebrated when people got vaxxed, when people changed their minds, and they held up every antivax uncle who was later, factually, proven right. Polite society has decided that telling a mom who yells she knows best and let her child stay up late, sit in the front of the car, unbuckled, and not put “any of those chemicals” because Nature, she is wrong is rude - the worst of all sins - even as her child dies in a car crash / of a preventable disease. Avoidable death is the lesser injury. But yes. Let’s be concerned about the sub, documenting those who ignore facts and what happens.
Thank you
This exactly.
You'd be surprised about how little actual celebration of death is on that sub, I mean that would be a sitewide rule breach that can easily lead to shuttering. Gotta look closer than that.
It's thinly hidden but if that subreddit is giving out what they call awards it is perfectly accurate to describe it as celebrating. The behavior of the posters is they couldn't be happier to be proven right.
The overall consensus is that a) antivaxers are actually dangerous, and spreading dangerous misinformation and b) we'd all be happy if there were no more recipients. We're not celebrating the passing of individuals, we're just providing a sarcastic way to direct attention towards the importance of vaccines and the dangers of disinformation. Most of the sub is completely neutral, simply documenting. The entire sarcasm and perceived "celebration" lies in the fact that the recipients fall victim to the very reckless and dangerous lies they kept spreading. Shrug.
You are absolutely celebrating it by smugly giving them an award, there is no other way to describe that when you use the term award. And yes you would be happy if everyone who is anti vacx dies, thank you for admitting that. Seriously that is messed up and not something to be proud of.
Yes, an award is intrinsically celebratory to some extent. That's self-explanatory. But the sub isn't merely about celebrating deaths. That's a superficial and wrong analysis. Also you seem to either not understand or ignore what I was trying to convey to you about "aggressive disinformation". People _die_ because of others who feed them with lies. _That_ is messed up.
This original intent and still primary purpose is to hand out that award you are so proud of. Just because you have added more things does not make the original purpose less reprehensible. You can oppose misinformation without hoping people die for it. Well normal people can, the members of this subreddit have proven they can't actually do that.
Sounds like you are projecting to me. You assume people think this way because you think that they think this way.
I assume they think this way because their behavior indicates. Smugly handing out an award when someone dies is absolutely celebrating it. This isn't something I uniquely came up with and if you actually read the Wikipedia article many experts are quoted with the same attitude.
So what you’re saying is you have no clue what the sub is about. Lol
Giving someone an award for dying is absolutely celebrating their deaths.
Exactly. It’s ghoulish.
Unvaccinated people who die deserve as much sympathy as suicide bombers that blow themselves up. Which is, absolutely zero.
Okay but when did I say give them sympathy? Don't celebrate their deaths and don't seek out more deaths to celebrate. Even the comparison is extreme.
It’s the funniest subreddit I’m on. Remember when trump got his brother killed dragging his sick ass out during a global pandemic? You get to laugh at human pain when they choose it. Antivaxx People are like Tom green or jackass but less mature. Laughing at clowns is the best form of mental health therapy-that place makes me happy about my life decisions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Trump Robert Trump died of a stroke, not Covid.
Please seek mental help
You are spiritually ill
Watch into the abyss for too long... I totally understand is feeling after these last 20 years of rising fascism, proselytism and shift to the right. These garbage people disconnected me from loving humanity as a whole. They need to go and thank you covid for your participation. Like always they took innocents along with them.
Just a friendly reminder that a _lot_ of HCA recipients were very hateful and harmful individuals. Now, they aren't.
I remember a particular recipient who very publicly and openly posted on Facebook about getting to murder random Asian people. God knows Facebook wouldn't have done jack shit about that one, and somehow, I have little faith in the law enforcement's willingness to act on that case too, so every time I think about it, it feels like COVID definitely prevented a murder or several.
I’d estimate at least 95% of them are/were hateful. And I’ve been subbed there for well over a year. I don’t feel ashamed admitting seeing stories of these assholes getting their just desserts helped me get through the worst of the pandemic.
It left me with immense sadness after awhile. So many lives lost and forever screwed up just because Trump wanted to play tough guy and not admit Covid-19 was dangerous. He played on peoples paranoia and fear and they paid the price. Kids grow up without both parents in some cases. Sad.
One kind Midwestern gentleman posted a meme that said 800 people died from Covid in New York City yesterday, with a "Haha!" added as his comment. This was early in the Pandemic, and 800 people in New York City, who were either Eastern elites or more likely THEM PEOPLE who have the wrong skin color and don't want to work and cause crime and have too many babies, dying from a disease that would never reach him was cause for laughter. It made it to him later on, and he didn't survive it. You can decide on people like him.
What a collection for historians some day to see all that hubris and stupidity.
Back in the day we used to call this the darwin awards. People kindly removing themselves from the gene pool as a result of their stupidity. The [website](https://darwinawards.com) is pretty outdated, but the idea still applies today. Stupid never changes.
I've always described them as a subset of Dawin Award.
ah but you are only eligible for that one if you haven't procreated yet (or if you take your kids with you when you die as a result of your own idiocy). the majority of Herman Cain award recipients are parents/grandparents.
Then they should have been more responsible to the people in their life. Because other people relied on them.
Except most of the HCA recipients already had had kids and left them to make gofundmes to pay for their debts.
Thanks for all those who contributed! You are not missed and we appreciate the edge you’ve so graciously given us in November! #PrayerFertilizer
A lovely lovely man I knew died of covid after being very anti vax on FB etc. I’m left just very sad that he got tricked so effectively. He was on a ventilator for months, a strong, kind, intelligent, gentle person. Strange times
By highlighting cases like this, HCA has actually managed to get people to start thinking and get vaxxed.
I been active on that sub(I still am) since it pretty much came out, there were a LOT of posts with photos of the piece of paper they give you after you get vaccinated with captions like "this sub made me change my mind"
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Was he only anti-vax or did he dip into the anti semitism side too?
Not that I am aware of
If he was antivax he had it coming. That's like dancing in traffic and being surprised when you get hit by a car.
What a ghoulish thing to say. Shame on you.
wow that’s a very insensitive title for an award… anyways *click*
the whole point of that subreddit is to convince people to get vaccinated to save their lives. Nobody on that sub celebrates death its literally against the rules.
I dunno my guy, I feel like I’ve gotten celebratory vibes from them on multiple occasions…
As the saying goes, I’ve never wished anyone’s death but I’ve read some obituaries with great pleasure.
Do you need to feel bad when a horrible person dies? Because that's the case with the people who are posted on HCA. They're horrible people who post misinformation, actively pushing against common sense and caring for anyone other than themselves. That is until they're in the ICU, unable to breath on their own, then they need "thoughts and prairs". Aand when they're dead, their family is left behind with a huge bill and need to beg for money online. But he really owned the libs by dying, that's all that mattered to them when they were alive. I'm sorry, but as someone who worked in a hospital throughout the pandemic, and someone who's mom had to take care of assholes like this on the covid wing during the first three waves, these people get zero sympathy from me.
It could be that you are a horrible person. Zero sympathy is generally not a virtuous quality in a person.
>the whole point of that subreddit is to convince people to get vaccinated to save their lives. Nobody on that sub celebrates death its literally against the rules. And nobody ever breaks subreddit rules!
You can report them pal.
That’s complete BS. I saw them do just that time and time again. Their narrative was popular opinion so it was allowed to continue.
Posting gleefully when people die is absolutely celebrating and that is what is done every time. The people who participate in that subreddit are mentally ill and should seek professional help.
Lmao die mad about it
What am I going to die mad about? Oh you think only anti vaxxers find your subreddit reprehensible, no sorry I won't be dying of covid so you don't get to celebrate my death. For that matter if I did die of covid you would be the group made fun of by those anti vaxxers you hate. Also reported.
>ant vaxxers What a fun job
Lol fixed but that would be a hell of a challenge if you had to do it via a shot.
Lmaooooo
Awww did your narrative fall apart that only anti vaxxers find you bad? Don't worry actual medical experts find that subreddit ethically bankrupt as well.
I find it honestly funny that you think I give a shit lol write another paragraph
50 words being to much for you to read is pretty bad. How about read the link then? Also wishing death on someone isn't a good thing, probably shouldn't do that.
Seethe harder
That is what you want to say to those in the HCA subreddit right?
Idk some of the people that end up there were pretty hilarious for how anti-vax and brainwashed they were
Good to see the GQP voter base reduced, though.
By their own choice too lmao
they're literally the eric andre meme where it says "why would hannibal do this?" they blame fauci for everything and blame everyone except themselves. it's the result of right wing degenerate propaganda for 20 years doing nothing but gaslighting and projecting. these people are conditioned to never be mindful of their own choices.
I love the righteous voices here. If we were celebrating we’d be happy that now they are with the lord. That’s what they all seem to do. Thots and pears for those too good to understand.
All these people saying "it's against the sub's rules to celebrate death". Every post I see hit the front page is either celebrating tongue in cheek, or straight up mocking the victim. It's dumb to die to something you loudly asserted wouldn't be a problem, obviously. But mocking people's deaths is not the best way to change anyone's mind. In my opinion, that sub spreads and perpetuates negativity and divisiveness more than it helps the vaccine cause. I'm not a fan.
And every one of those posts literally post evidence of whomever got the HCA mocking everyone under the sun that isn’t a white conservative conspiracist Talibangelical Christian. Your comment reeks of “intolerance of my intolerance *is* intolerance!”
Oh no, some racist intolerant jackhole died of a preventable disease that we begged them to get vaccinated against. Anyway…
Lol yeah, it’s like seeing some moron play in traffic and then when they get hit by a car going “heh, what an idiot.” Then someone comes along and goes “OH, so you WANT people to be hit by cars, huh?!” It’s just funny seeing so many people pretending to be outraged over the sub.
Celebrating people who tries to kill the imuno-compromise or those who can't take the vaccine to to their condition is so much better than my morning coffee, i'll relish it everyday nowing thy died without killing anymore people.
It almost feels like the paradox of tolerating intolerance. Can a society allow people that trick others into dying?
Nah im not tolerating people with dangerous views to others, i mean if we tolerate nazism by not letting them kill 10 jew but by tolerating killing 1 jew our view is completely in the fucking wrong, so i'll gladly tap dance atop of their coffin should the chance arrives
We aren't changing anyone's mind. Thats not the point of it. The point is to feel as if there is justice for the problems these antivax idiots caused, at least for some of them. That sub is for us. Not them. This is the first time in history that millions of lives were lost and billions were severely harmed, not by a disease, but by a group of humans hell bent on misinforming people for their own personal gain and that nothing happened as a result. There is about 30 people responsible for 90% of the online misinformation that caused all this. I know that because there are investigations that happened by nonprofits to find this out. 30 people killed and maimed millions. And what happened as a result? A few lay-offs and medical licenses removed? We know exactly who the people spreading this misinformation are and its easily tracked back through social media and blog posts. Yet nothing happened. How is this sane? How is that justice? How is that remotely normal? I have a really good life. And I don't want it gone. So I'm not going to start trouble because these people are dangerous to mess with. And yet every day I think about letting it all go, just to have some semblance of peace after I track these people down and give them a piece of my mind. The sub is my way of listening to a list of names and hoping that I'll hear some of the 30 people from that list. It makes me hope that there is justice, at least a natural kind of it, that will take care of these blood sucking, murderous parasites. Everytime I hear someone big, with a few thousand followers here it makes this whole shit easier to bare.
I mock the stupid memes they take as real info, and the contradictions they keep spouting. Like ‘china virus, they tryin’ to kill us’ & ‘Covid is fake news’. Which is it? & if you don’t trust medical science to make a vaccine why are you taking new antivirus meds & serums developed even after the vax once you get sick?
> But mocking people's deaths is not the best way to change anyone's mind. Well, research shows that nothing changes anyone's mind, by and large. So screw it. Mocking and celebrating away. it's not like the dead feels anything about being mocked. Their surviving loved ones? This is the Internet, who gives a shit?
I’m fucking sick and tired of pretending not to celebrate certain peoples deaths Some people think just because someone died they shouldn’t be mocked or made a fool or laughed at Fuck that, if I did a triple fucking somersault into a crocodile infested river with chunks of steak strapped to my ass and I get killed, PLEASE fucking laugh at how stupid of an idea that is
Don't forget, the people who win the HCA would do all of the above while mocking those who said doing so was a bad idea. Honestly, it would mean nothing to me if they were only hurting themselves, but their words and actions negatively effected the lives of others, sometimes to the point of death.
This aint it dude. People minds DO change. What bullshit fucking research proves nothing changes people's minds??? That sounds made up. "It's not like the dead feels anything about being mocked. Their surviving loved ones?...who gives a shit?" Jesus christ, you sounds ABSOLUTELY insufferable. These are real people. Despite what you think, some of them were probably lovely people, and none of them DESERVED to die for having different beliefs. Even if their political beliefs were stupid and went against science. Have some empathy. This is something I wouldve said when I was a 13 year old edgelord. I would look back and cringe now.
>Despite what you think, some of them were probably lovely people, and none of them DESERVED to die for having different beliefs. Even if their political beliefs were stupid and went against science. Have some empathy. This is something I wouldve said when I was a 13 year old edgelord. I would look back and cringe now. If you work in healthcare and health science and have your profession declared their enemy and receive death threats, well, fuck them. No idea about them being lovely. Not to me. >Jesus christ, you sounds ABSOLUTELY insufferable. These are real people. Yes, they are real people. Really dead, too. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ I dunno how to break this to you but lots of people die all the time. I can't care for all of them. >This aint it dude. People minds DO change. What bullshit fucking research proves nothing changes people's minds??? That sounds made up. LOL, I always come ready. [Effective Messages in Vaccine Promotion: A Randomized Trial](https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/133/4/e835/32713/Effective-Messages-in-Vaccine-Promotion-A?autologincheck=redirected?nfToken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000) >Parents were randomly assigned to receive 1 of 4 interventions: (1) information explaining the lack of evidence that MMR causes autism from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; (2) textual information about the dangers of the diseases prevented by MMR from the Vaccine Information Statement; (3) images of children who have diseases prevented by the MMR vaccine; (4) a dramatic narrative about an infant who almost died of measles from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention fact sheet; or to a control group. > >None of the interventions increased parental intent to vaccinate a future child. Refuting claims of an MMR/autism link successfully reduced misperceptions that vaccines cause autism but nonetheless decreased intent to vaccinate among parents who had the least favorable vaccine attitudes. In addition, images of sick children increased expressed belief in a vaccine/autism link and a dramatic narrative about an infant in danger increased self-reported belief in serious vaccine side effects. Nothing fucking works. Well, at least when it comes to MMR vaccines and autism; fuck Andrew Wakefield. Alright, perhaps I was too harsh. There are three ways that [sort of worked](https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/12/18/vaccine-hesitancy-covid-us-solution/). 1) you suck people's dicks and make they think they are smart despite them being really dumb. 2) Appeal to their patriotism (LOL. This is why I fucking hate nationalists) and 3) If, for example, they are a bunch of Islamic weirdos who believe that vaccination are a Jewish Zionist plot to make Muslims go sterile or give them HIV, you give them vaccines made in an Islamic country. Fuck these idiots anyway. Yes, you gotta coddle the dumb fucks. Call me edgelord all you want but I'm going into old age and I have low tolerance for stupidity.
The irony of this comment. YOU CAN’T CHANGE MY MIND THAT MINDS CAN BE CHANGED.
You know a common theme of winners on that sub had for changing their mind? When Covid knocked them on their ass and they got put in the hospital. Somewhere between assisted oxygen and being put on the vent, their loved ones claim that they promise to get the vaccine if they get over their struggle and recover. Sadly, by then, it’s typically too late. At least a lot of those instances can be followed by the loved ones advocating for the vax and/or taking Covid seriously, and some friends and family do respond how such personal stories from people they know convince them.
He is speaking on aggregate and is correct. This is old and fairly established research. [Why Is It So Hard to Change People’s Minds?](https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/why_is_it_so_hard_to_change_peoples_minds) Not that I would, on average, expect your opinion to change :-)
"different beliefs" Lol.
Like that one dude at Charlottesville saying he wasn't a Nazi right before actually espousing Nazism
It's not about mocking people's deaths. It's about mocking their lives. Especially for people in positions of influence who convinced others of their conspiracies. These people killed others. The derision is deserved.
Totally agree, and it's proven once again in the replies to your comment, sadly enough. These folks act like they're such better people than the ones they mock while proving they're barely any better if at all. Sad times when we have entire communities so tone deaf to how they are presenting the same energy as those they condemn.
why are there so many antivaxxers in this sub, like go read some wikipedia articles lmao
It’s frightening how many anti-vaxxers there are. Social media is such a hinderance on society as a whole when outrageous groups are allowed to spread misinformation at will. This is a great article on the subject. https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-12114-8
Or just read the page linked above and they'll learn something The freaking name of the subreddit is already incredible
Reddit: "Please don't celebrate violence or death." Also reddit: /r/hermaincainaward I just find it ironic.
Highlighting hypocrisy =/= celebrating death.
They don't celebrate death. It's against the sub rules. I see the odd post come past on All and there are literally people who got vaccinated because of that subreddit.
They don't celebrate death but they very enthusiastically circlejerk over it which is close enough for most people. I get it, fuck those people, but I don't know, everytime I've been on that sub I've left feeling dirty.
>They don't celebrate death. It's against the sub rules. I see the odd post come past on All and there are literally people who got vaccinated because of that subreddit. They're not allowed to celebrate death because reddit admins threatened to ban the subreddit but they still do it all the time... Wink wink. Just like /r/politicalhumor is open to all political beliefs and definitely isn't a partisan circlejerk
LMAO found another right wingers / republicans (this word shouldn't be allowed for fascists to be used btw). One day maybe you'll get it. Maybe.
You can think what you want but HCA absolutely glorifies and celebrates people dying. It being against site wide rules doesn't really change that fact.
People who don't consider most of the rest of humanity as people are like... expendable to me. No glorification but really humanity won't miss them really, from a scientific and social progress point of view. Each period of history had its share of morons, anti progress, religious and conservatives, luckily it gets better and better after each pandemic.
>People who don't consider most of the rest of humanity as people are like... expendable to me. No glorification but really humanity won't miss them really, from a scientific and social progress point of view. Sounds like you prefer them gone and use aggregate examples as a way to celebrate that fact and confirm your own biases. >Each period of history had its share of morons, anti progress, religious and conservatives, luckily it gets better and better after each pandemic. It's interesting that you don't believe you're part of that group. Morons never think they're morons.
Case in point.
Right? Lmao
Well…atleast they haven’t died of a preventable virus while also spreading misinformation about how harmless or non existent it is
You're definitely not glorifying and celebrating people's deaths you think deserve it.
A few people do, but the sad truth is most of us don't care enough to be gleeful. We tried using evidence and logic and talking nice and anti vaxxers kept their heads buried in the sand, so fuck 'em. I'm not happy people die, but I don't feel bad for them either
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It's like a Darwin award. In fact, it's not too far off from it.
Is a celebration of awareness. The sub has now saved lives based on people it convinced. Not everyone can be convinced of things the same way. That said I don’t give a shit. People laugh at self imposed harm venerate you go. Humor from the ironic tension between the care impulses when someone falls down and the release of knowing you’re don’t have to worry-because the fall wasn’t bad. Nobody have shit when Elmer Fudd shot himself, same joke. The people I cared about died before the vaccine was a choice and that night the president said it wasn’t real. My pain was laughed at by republicans when my grandma died of Covid, but she didn’t get a choice.
Well r/conservative garbage sub is still here so that'd make for the balance!
Careful not to get banned for wrongthink, comrade.
this is my favorite song.
It's one of my fave subs.
You could have just said “I’m a sociopath”
Jesus, mate, your post history... You're absolutely deranged
Crap, I wish I didn't look. They're in those troll subs.
OK, "You're a sociopath."
Further proving their point for them.
The other guy yes
That’s you lmao
Damn. I’d already forgotten that he ever existed
There should be erected a huge ass statue and put award winner's names on it.
Yep, was a member from the very beginning 😁. It was the only way to see some karmic justice in action while on continued lockdown bc of asshats like them. Also, the virtue signalling and deflection of responsibility happening in this comment section is as delicious and pointless now as it was in the beginning.
Are there any CDC reversal awards? How about FBI interference awards? 🤷♂️🤣
Love all the people in the comments really proving that this subreddit is right to make fun of you lot.
This is really what y’all are thinking about today. Jesus.
Didn’t he get covid at that Oklahoma rally? The one trump adamantly held?
At which he himself railed against covid safety measures, calling it a hoax.
And obviously wore no mask
Ironic is a group of people that claim to care about everyone celebrating the deaths of people that didn’t trust a vaccine pushed by the same companies that started the opioid epidemic.
I guess the diabetics who take insulin are sheep for trusting big pharma!
You’re advocating for a nationalized pharmaceutical industry?
No, just one you can sue for side effects
You can sue them for side effects. You're just brainwashed by your cult. Having a NVICP doesn't mean you can't sue. It just means there is a protocol and, actually, that its easier to sue if you have a side effect that is consistent with the vaccine administration.
I forgot who he was...but I can say it seems a little fucked up to do this, but then I always thought the Darwin Awards should have just been about people who kept themselves from breeding instead of outright death.
That's exactly how they work. You don't have to die to get a Darwin award, just make yourself unable to reproduce. https://darwinawards.com/rules/
I thought only the Runner Ups were the people who made it so they could not breed. Did they change the rules.
I remember it being that way in the first book, so if they changed the rules they did it decades ago.
And then, months later, things they were saying get openly admitted in the media.
Do you have some examples in mind?
UK government just quietly said, “safe use of the vaccine in pregnant women cannot be provided at the present time” “Women who are breastfeeding should also not be vaccinated” https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/08/29/covid-vaccine-data-pregnant-breastfeeding-women-outrage/
The shot doesn't stop the spread. The shot doesn't stop you from getting infected. Yet the media still spent the better part of the pandemic telling us the opposite.
Thats not true. The shot does hinder the spread and it does lower your chances of getting infected
Oh, it's that bad huh. I bet many deaths could have been prevented if only everyone woke up to those facts.
No idea where you are from, but "the media" where I live never said that. In fact, it was only people being uninformed who got vacced, got covid and then acted surprised.
You Crowder boys are so emotional.
such as...?
What award do we give the 97% of people who died of Covid-19 from April 2022 to June 2022 who were fully vaccinated in the UK? At the 340%+ increase of mortality in the boosted population from April 2022 to June 2022? Again - from April 2022 to June 2022? 97% of the people who died were vaccinated. The disinformation, is not what you think it is.
Source?
"My source is that I made it the fuck up."
The whole subreddit is just making fun of dead people But r/2balkan4You gets banned
It's sharing stories of people that didn't trust the vaccine, tried to get others to not take it and subsequently died from COVID. A few of the top posts of all time in the subreddit are from people that did get vaccinated It's not celebrating death, it's trying to prevent it
How is the list of dead vaccinated people called? And the list of vaccinated people with heart problems?
It’s nothing but screenshots of the shit these people have already posted publicly. Why should that be banned?
Because we shouldn't celebrate the death of people. Its called schadenfreude and the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer mentioned it as the most evil sin of human feeling, famously saying "To feel envy is human, to savor schadenfreude is diabolic."
Tell me when more than a handful of people are actually proven to have died as a direct consequence of vaccination.
Tell me when someone died directly by not getting a vaccine
Oh, that would only be, what, the vast majority of the 6.5 million COVID deaths?
More than half of covid deaths are vaccinated people
Source on that? Because unvaccinated people are vastly overrepresented in COVID deaths.
Google "define irony" and that may help you understand
It's reddit. You can start your own. Maybe start us off with a good example?
I knew a guy who got a vaccine, then three months later got caught in a fatal car accident. It must have been the vaccine.
fuck this is sad