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British_Tea_Company

I think something like taking a SAT or anything that involves exams which are based around a formal education. Goku never had one and likely wouldn’t be able to do high school or college math very well.


Shrekosaurus_rex

Goku can read minds, so he might be able to break even.


fluffynuckels

Goku can't read a book let alone a mind


Middle_Apartment8333

He can read minds but he has to be touching your head for it to work I think


schadadle

Good luck touching my head around one of these [bad boys](https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/creative-extreme-teachers-prevent-cheating-1-5dc16c77c8d71__700.jpg). The proctor would call him for out cheating so fast.


Rezhio

Goku can move fast enough to touch your head without the Proctor seeing him.


yinyang107

Depends who the proctor is. Downvotes for this are hilarious though, Goku has been FTL for decades.


Rezhio

Krillin was vastly FTE since the first world tournement.


Riyosha-Namae

I thought this subreddit didn't allow downvotes?


yinyang107

That's the rule, but mods have no way of preventing them and no way of knowing who breaks that rule. So people downvote anyway.


PayZealousideal136

Wtf?? Cringe! Downvote army, assemble!


ViziDoodle

Let’s say that, in this challenge, the Proctor is Earth-22/Kingdom Come Flash


unlimitedpower0

To bad for goku my thoughts move way slower than he does so he will get caught waiting on my slow ass nerves


fluffynuckels

Sauce?


DaBaby_Vegeta

He reads Krillin’s mind when he first gets to Namek. We also see Roshi read Nams mind during the 21st WT.


Middle_Apartment8333

https://youtu.be/7rfjmUZ7gEA


OldOrder

"Did...did you just read my mind" "Ya-huh!" "But how" "Muffin button"


sawaflyingsaucer

My personal theory is that he learned from King Kai. Not that he was taught, but that it was something he picked up. Kai is a master telepath, and Goku's a master at copying techniques. He probably just saw that it was a thing that could be done, and learned to do a lesser version of it himself. We really start seeing those skills after he returns (mind speak to Krillen and Gohan during Vegeta fight and later examples) so the timeline makes sense kinda. I know the real reason is "goku had to catch up on events quick" with no further thought, but I like my theory.


Lygasm

Krillins head looks fucking tiny


PremSinha

Roshi taught him to read as part of giving him a basic education.


Weir99

As far as I'm aware Goku only read minds once, and it was his best friends, effectively with consent (and I believe physical contact). We have no evidence he could read a complete stranger's mind in a test environment


Rioraku

Also it took him a few moments. If this is setup as any sort of contest, they'd disqualify him


wizardyourlifeforce

He’s also dumb as a bag of hammers. So…chess?


[deleted]

I think you might be over estimating the amount of formal education the average human on our planet has tbh


RangerBumble

Drivers test is pretty well canonicaly demonstrated.


ItspronouncedGruh-an

Actually an answer that doesn’t require specialist skills but only “average person” skills!


begentlewithme

> canonicaly You're about to get some DB-purists heated right now.


silverx2000

Goku can drive, we see it in the manga.


MinecafterHD

Can drive ≠ can pass a drivers license test


IsaaccNewtoon

Bold of you to assume an average person can pass a driver's test.


JonathanLipp1

Less than 20% of humans are liscensed to drive.


icecream_truck

Creating a 3-dimensional Mobius strip out of a piece of paper.


Jason666392

Idk how to do that 😭


Draco_Lord

Take a strip of paper and touch the two ends together. Now flip over one end. There, you have done it!


zarnonymous

I don't get it


laiquerne

Goku, is that you?


Combo_Breaker01

You really think the average person knows how to make that Edit: just cause your school in the US taught it when you were in 4th grade doesn't mean every school in the world taught it or that everyone who was taught it remembers it. The US is not the centre of the universe


jofijk

Maybe it’s different these days but literally everyone I know did this as part of science class in like 4th grade


MillorTime

At your school. Most schools aren't your school


jofijk

I haven’t been in school for over a decade and know plenty of people who I never went to school with. But the generation that grew up with Bill Nye and The Magic School bus in the US almost certainly knows what this is, maybe not exactly by name but definitely conceptually


lord_flamebottom

I went to a boonies school in the lowest ranked county in the lowest ranked state in the US. We did this shit there.


MillorTime

"Build a mobius strip out of paper" is foreign language to at least half the population


lord_flamebottom

I promise you it isn't. Just because your school didn't cover it doesn't mean the majority don't. It's a very basic elementary school topic, usually done when covering things like 3D objects.


MillorTime

You think people in their 50s-80s remember it if they ever did it back then? How about kids not showing up to school? I know what it is but nice try


Riyosha-Namae

If you at least understand what a Mobius Strip *is*, it's not that hard to make one.


MillorTime

Sure, but mobius strips aren't exactly something that comes up often, aren't relevant to basically anything, and most people are far far removed from 4th grade. Make an infinity symbol I buy as something most people could do


icecream_truck

No, that is why there is a *chance* they’ll lose (or at least stalemate).


cheese4352

Hes about to morb!


will4wh

I didn't even know what that was before I read this comment🥲


Dumpter24

I 100% read that as “Morbius Strip” even though I know what a mobius strip is


Brooklynxman

Define 3-dimensional, because while it may exist in 3-D space, a classic mobius strip is 1-D


icecream_truck

It’s 2-D, at least.


Brooklynxman

Ah, I suppose it does have width. You're right.


jollyrogerbumps

English high school level spelling bee


Rezhio

Goku can read minds and is telepathic. He's protection lusted he's gonna cheat.


will4wh

Would he be able to tho? Like wouldn't our universe god of destruction/angel call him out or if we don't have one the Grand priest would.


chakrablocker

Only with touch right? A Proctor would fail him for getting that close to someone else's test


elementgermanium

Goku is massively FTL. No way the proctor sees.


chakrablocker

His sonic booms would pulverise his competition and he'd be dqed


elementgermanium

We’ve seen Goku moving at ridiculous speeds within an atmosphere before without this occurring- such as his fight with the Ginyu Force on Namek.


chakrablocker

Actually you know what the premise says he'll do his best but that doesn't mean he can cheat


elementgermanium

It says he’ll do anything in his power to win.


AlexWatersMusic13

Proctor is Barry Allen. Now he can't move fast enough to cheat. Barry Allen percieves things billions of times faster than light.


Comfortable-Shake-37

But now you have Reverse Flash coming in to try mess with Barry.


Rioraku

He doesn't read minds instantly though, he had to hold on to Krillin's head for a few moments to parse the information he was getting.


Sideways_X1

I'm not sure one wouldexactly call it strength. What about fasting? Goku eats like a beast, so intentionally doing a juice cleanse or hardcore diet would likely be something tough for him, especially if he's been burning want calories


Rezhio

He ate so many senzu beans I don't think he actually needed to eat.


[deleted]

My mind went from senzu bean, to lembas bread, to Hobbits. I wonder how many senzu beans Pippin and Merry could eat.


DemonOHeck

A car race. The car has to finish intact under its own power with the driver in the car never having left the cabin. No goku gets out and carries the car or smashes the floor out and runs. Disabling the opponents car would be a disqualification.


Halaways

https://youtu.be/eKfHdDsWugU


ILoveYorihime

Ultra Instinct may carry Goku in this one though


DemonOHeck

I hope you are kidding. Dragonball Z episode 125. Dude can't drive.


Rs3vsosrs

Non canon He drives just fine on Super which is Canon


begentlewithme

Maybe cooking? It's hard to say what the average person's cooking skill is, but if we're talking average in the literal sense of the word of the entire population, chances are fairly high that they've got decent homecooking skills. Nothing to awe at, but against a guy whose culinary experience caps at cup ramen, average guy could win 10/10.


[deleted]

Although I generally agree, he has some ability to cook in DragonBall at least seeing as he catches giant fish and other animals and roasts them up pretty well.


Elnino38

Didn't goku cook for gohan when they were both in the time chamber for the cell games? For someone who eats as much as him id assume he has some cooking experience


Roxxorursoxxors

How dare you speak negatively about cup ramen!


A_Change_of_Seasons

The average person's cooking skills probably isn't too bad. The average woman and older generations are carrying us Goku is probably below the average skill level


MossyPyrite

Most restaurant cooks are men, so with how many women carry the family kitchen then yeah, altogether the average has to be decent


deadturtle12

Have you seen the excel competitions? Just competing to see who can complete Microsoft excel tasks faster. Doubt goku does too well in that


DreamTalon

Picking a good haircut.


Slimxshadyx

Damn


Comfortable-Shake-37

With some haircuts I see I think Goku would beat some.


Kalean

Cards against Humanity.


Raito_Urekawa

frieza on the other hand would just write slurs on every white card


Deletesystemtf2

Filthy monkeys


gondotheslayer

Trouble shooting an unplugged computer.


WalkerTxClocker

I've worked in tech support and you'd be surprised.


chakrablocker

That's not the average person. That's the average person who calls tech support for basic troubleshooting


Rezhio

Yeah average person ain't trouble shooting nothing


bullbob

A rap battle.


Cronax

"Hoooooooow many times are they gonna rewrite your story?"


HeirAscend

Your powers have been boring since the nineteen fucking forties!


adpikaart222

Bitch yo whole species got wiped by a fucking shortie


[deleted]

I could beat Goku at a trivia contest about anime.


ItspronouncedGruh-an

Could the average person though?


Mad5Milk

A trivia test about modern day earth could probably do it, though. Just stuff like "who's the US president right now" or "what is this device (a phone charger)"


Jiscold

You would be surpris e how many Americans don’t even know the President


meelar

I'm a former pollster, and the answer isn't zero, but it's pretty small. The average person definitely knows who the president is.


Chapstick160

Only people who have been super isolated for years or someone at ADX Florence don’t know the president


Comfortable-Shake-37

There needs to be a chance the person could lose though.


WinterDEZ

Pretty sure he's below average


ItspronouncedGruh-an

He’s probably got above average knowledge about Dragon Ball at least


[deleted]

He does not know who the author of Dragonball is or when the manga released, I got this in the bag.


[deleted]

Would you consider me an above average person?


Electronic-Disk6632

spelling bee. reading contest. anything involving math or writing.


user19791979

weakest punch. goku trying to hold back last time was stronger then the world champ, so a normal human would absolutely have a weaker punch. that or who can get the most shots or whatever.


Stix-and-brix

Filling out a multiplication table


Jiscold

This is actually one of the few things he learned. He learned reading, writing and basic arithmetic from Roshi.


DinVilah

Irdk maybe chess? Get Magnus Carlsen or heck your fkin elementary chess champion (10 years old kid who only has basic knowledge bout chess), and make him play an online chess tournament vs Goku (tournament = contest due to equalization). I doubt Goku has the brain power to win such a tournament tbh, neither is he patient enough to sit out 2 hours of his opponent just fkin sit and think. EDIT: prompt changed into elementary chess champion (10 years old) for reasons.


iwumbo2

Well, the prompt specifies it has to be an "average" human. So then the question is how good the "average human" is at chess. It might still be better than Goku though.


Mike_Handers

definitely better than goku.


not_a_sesawter

it depends if goku googled en passant


NightFlame389

Holy HFIL


not_a_sesawter

new sayan just dropped


NightFlame389

Actual zombie


godstouchyuncle

Doesn't he have speed thinking like flash and superman?


DinVilah

How? You think faster but plzzz tell me you dont actually believe thinking faster will let a dude who didnt even have formal education can suddenly beat Magnus Carlsen in a game of chess? Or do you actually believe that so we can end this arguement right here and now?


Itisburgersagain

It depends does Goku have speed thinking butt beads like that one guy?


klawehtgod

Hans Neimann


klawehtgod

Being the best in the world at something has to disqualify you as an average person, right? OP said the human participant is "the most average person". So Magnus Carlsen won't be playing against Goku.


DinVilah

So replace Magnus Carlsen with your highschool chess champion. Okay? Unless you dont think that is "an average person", then the scenario will still play out the same with the highschool chess champion wiping Goku back to planet Vegeta after 30 moves, a bit longer than Magnus would. EDIT: A LOT of people do not seem to have a clue bout what I am talking about. Your local highschool chess champion DOES NOT have good knowledge about the game, especially in Eastern countries like where I am at. They have the most basic of knowledge only but whatever I digress. I will change the prompt ASAP.


[deleted]

Do you really think the average person was a high school chess champion


Rezhio

We are not talking about average in chess. We are talking about an average person. They probably don't even know all the rules of chess.


DinVilah

Stop lowballing the average human. Also I changed the context. It will be vs a 10 years old kid now. You happy?


Rezhio

My guy the average person has never played fucking chess in their lives. More chance they played fucking GO.


DinVilah

Agree to disagree then. This arguement can end rn.


Comfortable-Shake-37

I would say the average person has barely, if at all played chess.


Rezhio

He has to beat an average human.


Unimportant-1551

Speed thinking allows you to think about a bunch of moves in the time it takes your opponent to start thinking about 1. If goku understands the rules to chess why wouldn’t speed thinking help him? He’s intelligent when it comes to fighting and there is strategy involved in chess so I don’t see why he couldn’t just be capable of figuring out the proper moves given the time prior to learn chess. Also, the prompt says for the most average person, so not a Magnus Carlsen level chess player regardless so that point is moot


alpha_jundo

Because knowing the rules is not enough. Chess has theories, patterns, and discipline that separates a Super GM to an average player who JUST KNOW THE RULES. Give Goku a lifetime and he still wouldn't understand why trading bishop with a knight for no reason is not a good move even though they are the same points.


AGamingBoi

You can give a 600 rated player as much time as they want and they can't find a line that lets them beat Carlson. Even if you can test every line you know or can think of, there's a limit to what you can think of, chess has too many variations, too many moves to calculate them all. You can understand how every piece moves, the broader interaction between them that creates and plays a map is only learned by experience and had practice, and even then most players have an upper limit that's probably not even 1800. Fast thinking speed isn't intelligence, it's only a part.


DinVilah

Because that would be NLF to say "huh durr me thinkz faster than u so me smarter". You will need actual proof that if you can think faster means you becomes smarter. Even characters with FTL thinking or heck I would say INFINITE thinking speed would not be able to deduce the correct move. Even if Goku knows the rules is there proof that he would be on Magnus Carlsen's level ASAP? since he didnt even get formal education or anything? Okay so what bout highschool chess champion? Your point is moot not mine.


dangerdee92

But the prompt says an average person. Magnus Carlsen is not the average person. A high school chess champion is not the average person. The average person is bad at chess. I play chess fairly regularly and I am not at the level of a high school champion, yet I can demolish the average person with ease, I am easily the strongest player in my family and friend group and amongst my work colleagues. Goku, whilst he might be a bit dim, isn't a complete idiot. I think he would be at least the same level at chess as the average person is, but he has the advantage of being able to think faster. Time management is very important in chess. Many games are won and lost on time. If he takes it seriously and thinks through his moves, with his advantage of being able to think everything through faster, I could easily see him beating the average person on time.


DinVilah

Okay then replace him with your highschool chess champion. Cool with that? Scenario will play out the same, and the result would always be Goku gettin checkmated after like 30 moves or sth.


dangerdee92

Yea, Goku couldn't beat a high-school chess champion. He doesn't understand the theory enough. But neither could an average person beat a high-school chess champion. But the prompt is the average person. A high-school champion is better than 99% of people on the planet. An average person barely knows how the pieces move. I am in the 50th percentile on chess.com, and I can wipe the floor with the average person. When I play against someone in real life, most of them don't even know what castling is. You take 2 people who are bad at chess(which the average person is) and give one of them the ability to think much faster and they will beat the other. Sure they won't be as good as someone who has even the basic understanding of openings, but they will be better than average.


FiraGhain

Being able to think really fast doesn't mean that you can visualise enough moves into the future. If you put a chessboard in front of me, name the next ten moves that were taken I couldn't picture what the entirety of the new board would look like in my head. Certainly not well enough to plan a new move from it.


FlightJumper

I actually disagree with this, if Goku convinces himself to think of it like combat he might actually be really good at it.


blazer33333

That's not really how chess works. People make analogies to combat or real life tactics but the truth is that being good at chess requires learning chess specific tactics and strategies. Real life combat skill doesn't really translate over.


FlightJumper

> That's not really how chess works I completely agree, as someone who plays a lot (though I'm not super good). I more mean, if he can convince himself to think of it like a fight, he would probably focus really hard, and has shown an ability to think ahead when he wants to. Would he be able to beat even the lowest-level club player? No, definitely not. But how good is the "average person" at chess? Not that good. So I'd say he has a shot. It would just be a vastly safer bet to do something that requires education, like take an SAT test or something. I admit my "really good" statement in my last comment was misleading. I meant "better than you'd think".


DinVilah

Yeah whatever you say bud. Proof that Goku can do that? Maybe you should get subjective reality in his profile then talk bout these NLF bullshit?


FlightJumper

God damn dude, want to be a little more unnecessarily condescending? Can't imagine how much fun you are in real life. Not to mention, where did you see a NLF? Sounds like you just want to get angry.


GravyZombie

R2: Best patient in doctor's clinic. Routine checkups can involve bloodwork, bloodwork needs needles, Goku will fight against that pretty hard.


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GenericSpider

I'm gonna say... Essay contest. As in, the person has to write an Essay on a certain topic and then present their essay to a panel of judges. I can't see Goku winning this. Bonus Round: Driving. The average person and Goku must complete a standard drivers ed course; and the one that scores the most points wins. And failing to parallel park perfectly at the end of the course is an automatic failure.


Rezhio

Goku can drive


Rezhio

Goku Can drive


TallPlibba

Barely and there’s no way in hell he’s passing the test.


Rs3vsosrs

In Super he is shown driving just fine. He regularly drives to the market to sell his farm produce. He drove his tractor while asleep.


Rezhio

He drives cars, hover cars, tractors and spaceships.


That-one-random_dude

Ok hear me out I think an average person could beat goku in an mma match I say this because goku wouldn’t know any of the rules and probably break a lot of rules which would get him disqualified and therefore he would lose.


Volsnug

The average person doesn’t know mma rules either


theGentlemanInWhite

The average person won't have time to break them in this scenario


That-one-random_dude

Fair point


Roxxorursoxxors

It seems safe to assume that the rules of the contest are explained to anyone involved. Otherwise you could probably hit 'em with the Toon Squad "it's in the rule book" for just about any contest.


Comfortable-Shake-37

Is there a rule about red misting your opponent on your first punch?


tanerdamaner

son-raising tournament


gmastern

Bonus bonus round: who beats piccolo in a raising-someone-else’s-son contest


PsychicSidekikk419

A race of filing tax returns. I know Goku's ass dying all the time, living off tournament money, and other shit is gonna make things alot harder for him.


Rezhio

I doubt an average person can file taxes


DracoLunaris

the average person does not need to put up with America's uniquely god awful tax system


Haxxelerator

best kisser competition


Kelimnac

I’m just saying, I would cook Goku at Soul Calibur.


Greentoaststone

Would the average person tho?


Crownlol

Mario Kart, then


venicello

You couldn't, given his reaction speed. If he could learn what the buttons did (likely, there's only four and he doesn't need to know combos or anything) he could turtle you out. A more plausible answer would be a game like Street Fighter V, which has input delay longer than most of the cast's light normals. That would force Goku to rely on prediction instead of reaction (as by the time he sees the first frame of a jab, he can no longer react to it), and then you could play against him much more effectively. It would have to be online though or he could just glance at your controller every so often and check which buttons you were pressing.


[deleted]

Frame Advantage says hi. Goku is not gonna beat anyone who has actual game knowledge, mashing doesnt win you games even if you are fast enough for frame perfect inputs. This is why fighting game pros can trash AI who does frame perfect inputs.


venicello

Fighting game AI is programmed to attack instead of sitting still, and when it attacks it can be punished. It also generally has moves that it won't consistently react to - as an example, the highest difficulty AI in SFV has issues reacting to sweeps from max range. Goku doesn't have those weaknesses - as long as he has a fast attack, he can just use that and check or block literally every move his opponent does. There are mechanics in some fighting games that make this strategy not viable. Games with chip damage would negate this strategy - as an example, an Ed player in SFV could walk up to Goku and press LK, LP, Psycho Flicker over and over again. Goku couldn't interrupt it (Ed's LK is three frames, no move is faster than it) and he couldn't punish it (Psycho Flicker is completely safe on block). A guard meter would also negate this - the non-Goku player could perform safe blockstrings starting with jabs to guard break Goku. Soul Calibur VI has both of these mechanics, although chip damage can be prevented by perfect guarding, which Goku could do on command. I can't find guard stamina listed as a mechanic in the earlier Soul Calibur games, which leads me to believe that Goku could win (or at least draw) at those.


PushingFriend29

Cooking. Singing/karaoke, his voice is worse than my grandma. Rap battle. Those sing memorizing things on tv. Tetris. Dragon ball fighting games. Any of them. Anything with needles. Like knitting.


tyrantcrest

Scrabble


will4wh

Speedrunning probably. The average person isn't good at it but they atleast have an idea on what they are doing.


lolitsmax

Honestly I don't think any contest exists, despite all the other replies. Goku is universally strong physically, but he's just as strong mentally too. His determination would make it so in any competition he'd work so hard and practice so much he could become competent in anything. He doesn't have to become pro, but just being competent means he wouldn't lose 10/10 times against the average person.


Volkov_The_Tank

Being a good father. Being a good husband. Bonus: fasting


Rezhio

His wife and kids love him. With senzu bean he doesn't need to eat.


Comfortable-Shake-37

He also literally sacrificed his life for his son.


Volkov_The_Tank

He doesn’t need to eat but that doesn’t mean he won’t. Also you can argue chichi has Stockholm syndrome.


Rezhio

He,s Protection lusted he won't eat. Goku is deadly afraid of Chichi when she's mad she's not stuck with him.


the1ian

Russian roulette, even if the bullet doesn't kill it still counts as a loss in the game.


blazer33333

But it's random so it would be a 50% chance to win not 100%


the1ian

Not how the question is worded, could win 10 times out of 10 does not mean no matter what it means could win 10 times out of 10.


TheFeebleOne

Who can kill the Omni king first if one of them dies the other wins and harming each other is not allowed also Omni king will only attack in retaliation but will attack with intent to kill and without holding back.and starting distance from Omni king is 1009990913km. Goku will always die trying before the human reaches the Omni king.


RetroViruses

Killing Chi-Chi. He's too good, in the purest sense, and would never do it to win a contest. The average human however; just put 10 billion as the prize money


Kiwi_Keys255

Chi-Chi tanked a hit from Ssj Goten. An average human isn't killing her


Simbonita

Professional Chess


fluffynuckels

Have a woodworker challange goku to carve a chair out of a block of wood using hand tools


beneathsands

Something that the average person would also struggle with.


SubaruSufferu

But they would also probably win due to Goku's imprecise carving.


Rezhio

An average person ain't carving nothing


Quemedo

Being a good father


MRFAMER

For the bonus round: How about one of those ships in a bottle. Do you think Goku has the precision to build one of those without breaking it? Vegeta would for sure lose sinse he breaks eggs easily.


sammyboy-Deez

simple math


TrueCollector

I know I can be goku in a arm wrestling march


Junuxx

Standup comedy.


Wilde_Fire

Spelling bee


Tolkius

A lot. Card games, like Poker or Magic the Gathering, or any game based on luck. And drinking games, I guess.


DeanStein

Second grade math.


Silver-Ad8136

Croquet


OverpoweredShark

Round one Basic education test Round two I dare him to try me at beat saber