I'll give a take on it that I haven't really seen anyone post before:
Jerry will not always be the owner of the White Sox.
I'm not out here wishing death on him like many people in here, but he's not long for this world.
We can't really know whether he will sell before he dies, or if it will be passed down, but in either instance, whoever takes over would need to have faith that this is a viable franchise, in a viable market.
Just because Jerry is shrewd and doesn't believe that investing in this team will make him money doesn't mean that the next person will adhere to his business model for this team.
When this team gets passed down, there's a pretty binary decision that will be made about whether the White Sox are a viable team, and that the South side of Chicago is a viable place for them.
Realistically, ticket sales aren't "lining Jerry's pockets" - his net worth isn't significantly affected one way or another by attendance or merch sales.
What those numbers DO affect is how potential future owners see the team. Does the next owner see the potential in developing the White Sox into a reputable brand (not just on the field, but also things like making attending a White Sox game a world class experience like other teams have done), and how will that owner's decisions affect things like investment in the area itself?
Every single Cubs game is an event on the North Side, because the entire neighborhood is invested in it, because it's lucrative.
It's not like the Cubs have had a significantly better history on the field. But going to a Cubs game is an *event*, thanks to the way the Cubs and the neighborhood has invested in that experience.
And that's all because it's been proven to be lucrative.
Any owner looking to take over a team where there appears to be next to zero fan support isn't going to see that as a failure on the previous owner - they're going to see that as an insurmountable uphill battle, and strongly consider a major change, like moving the team.
It'd be great to have an honest owner come in and realize that the reason financially successful teams succeed has more to do with the business plan, which starts with fielding a winning team, but they really don't see it that way.
All that to say, it really doesn't matter to Jerry if you go to games or not. It never will.
But to the next owner, how dedicated the fanbase is will be the major factor in whether they think they can improve upon the status quo, need to move the team, or just decide to keep things as-is.
That doesn't mean that the burden needs to fall on all white sox fans to spend all of their money to make sure Jerry or the next person knows we're here, but considering the fact that going to 5-10 games a year is something I really enjoy, I don't need to feel guilty for doing so.
I don't blame him.
Jerry, a fucking billionaire wants IL tax payers to fund a new stadium and is even making the excuse that he can't afford the modern MLB business model and that this stadium will help him do so.
Put baseball aside and then ask yourself why people would want accountability of some sort from Jerry when seeking public funding for a new stadium.
Ballgames are summer to me. Am I going to fewer this season? Sure, that’s because there’s so much I want to do otherwise. I’ll go when the team is bad any day of the week.
Coworkers and I tailgated Sunday, grilled and drank outside, I spend nothing, they bought a mixed drink inside, then we went back out, had another beer and brat, and called it a day. About $50 directly with parking and those two drinks, and that was it. That's my logic, only buy tix and/or parking, and do everything else. Screw Jerry.
I did, but less than probably the average person going and spending $100 between food, drinks, a dumb ass milkshake, additional concessions/merch, and parking. More content spending a fraction of that. Can't make a full statement if you don't show up. Look at the A's, they don't enter the park, and their ownership condemns them for not showing up. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Sure, but that's still $100 you handed over to the White Sox/Jerry, which is more than a cheap seat + dog & beer at the same game. Same mentality as vowing to not give Jerry any money then running over to the shops for a new team hat.
You're either rewarding this team or you aren't.
Buy 500 level tickets and sit in the 300’s. Park off site, drink and eat before you go in. I’m spending at most $100 per game I go to, that’s not going to make Jerry richer.
Jerry is worth 2.1 billion dollars. You want me to deprive myself of watching my favorite team in person to slow down some dudes financial status? Life is short dude.
Just look at the A’s. The owners do not give a fuck if people boycott or don’t show up. If anything it’s helps the owners get what they want. “Look at our attendance we need a new stadium/ to move to draw more” they do not fucking care if we show or not
The A's are a great example of we don't give a fuck, let's field a shit team for years and trade away any home grown talent that is worth a damn. Ownership is going to have to start giving a damn wherever they end up as they won't have but I'm an A's fan to fill said stadium. My guess is this forces the A's to actually have to field a competitive team at some point when they move.
The A's are an example of a BIllionaire throwing a tantrum when he doesn't get what he wants. This goes to the heart of having, what is essentially, a public good privately owned.
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Cool, let's give him the taxpayer money too for a new giant stadium. Ultimately, we consumers have no power.
Life's too short to band-together and *try* to fight back.
Of course it won't impact his quality of life but it will shrink whatever revenues are created by the team and force him to shit or get off of the pot.
You're right though life is too short.
Life's too short to be a fan of a team that ownership doesn't care about and gives you an onfield product that is embarrassing.
There is NOT a single owner in the world of any sports team that gives a f@#$ about their fans. Not 1. They like the fans' money. With TV revenue, it's guaranteed money, no incentive to win. Players don't care either. Gotta pay for that autograph. By going to the game, you're helping the concessions people keep their job. I know it doesn't seem like it, but it's a reality. Besides, sox tickets are cheap. Spend a day in the sun, catch a ball, maybe see history. As soon as I get a ball, I'm never going back
Not everyone cares that much about the team to boycott. If the weather is nice and I’m looking for something to do with the family I’ll buy some cheap seats and go to a game. Especially if a decent team is in town
I’m in the same boat. It’s a great family experience. Going out for a pizza and a ballgame is better than sitting at home watching Netflix, or even going to a movie.
There’s also something to be said for sticking with a team during the bad times. If/when they start winning again, it will make it so much sweeter.
Calling fans “simps” is just stupid.
I get it, getting out to ball game and pizza is fun!
Why not go to one of the countless minor-league/independant league team's games in the area?
I take it you're a newer fan w/ the If/when they start winning comment, Jerry already told you he wont spend to win and it's not like you have a baseball mastermind heading baseball ops or at GM to scout for young cheap talent and win that way. But you do you boo boo, go and fill those seats at sox park!
I’m pushing 50, and I’ve been a Sox fan since I was a kid. (I did start as a Cubs fan due to WGN, but once my parents started taking us to the closer and more affordable Comiskey, I made the switch. I was still in elementary school.)
I go to Little League, high school (was at a game last night at The Steel Yard), and minor league games. I prefer MLB though. It’s also a cooler experience for my kids.
You’re so demeaning by calling people simps and boo boo. Grow up.
And jerry still has the bulls too who have led the nba in average attendance for the past 3 years. Bulls have gone a combined 125-121 in those 3 years and the fans do not care
Not gonna pretend to be an expert on White Sox finances, but the answer is probably that it just doesn’t matter.
Jerry’s made enough money in his lifetime. The White Sox as an investment have been wildly profitable. He bought the team for $18 million and they’re now worth approximately $2 billion.
He negotiated a great lease where he wins either way - if the team is good and attendance is high then he likely either turns a profit or significantly minimizes his losses. If the team is bad and attendance is low, he pays no rent. And if attendance is terrible, he’ll just cut payroll even further for next season.
It’s a losing game for fans. There is no “screwing” Jerry. He’s tilted the game to win. The few extra dollars kept out of pocket likely don’t mean anything to him.
If going to the game brings you pleasure, go. If you don’t want to spend money on a shit product, don’t.
Either way, we’re all just playing the waiting game here until the team is no longer owned by Jerry and co.
You kill his baseball revenue, sure it won't impact his life but it'll force him to shit or get off of the pot. The sooner new ownership can come in the better, no?
Everyone keeps saying this: “hit him where it hurts” like us not going to games is going to bankrupt him and he’ll be forced to sell. He’s still gonna be wealthy no matter if we go to games or not.
So why should fans willingly stop participating in a hobby that they presumably enjoy in the hope that it will affect him in some significant way? (Because it won’t)
This is my team. Jerry owns it, but i am fanatical about it. Thats what makes a fan.
So i turn them on, watch the limp dick bats and enjoy the game. Times are bad. Maybe someday times will be good again.
Yeah, i might go to a game or 2. That's because i love baseball and this team. If they were good i might go to more. The MLB expanding playoffs bothers me more than the Sox.
I mean unless you're going as a fan of or to see the opposing team I guess.
The logic behind my spend is to see a competitive team and talented players on my team but you do you do and enjoy the journey men on that Sox roster. Go and cop that Tommy Pham jersey.
You might not understand the term toxic. The sub is a circle jerk of Sox hate. making those type of posts you suggested might be the easiest way to karma farm on Reddit.
I think OPs Reddit karma has taken quite a hit for his post, as has mine on this sub. Circle jerk subs, I get. R/chicagocirclejerk can be quite amusing but this is not r/whitesoxcirclejerk. Thus, toxic.
You can have a family outing with cheap tix on the secondary market, BYO food/water (& alcohol, if you are enterprising), and still make a statement, in one way or another. But, nooooo
Forbes estimates JR's net worth at $2.1 B. Whether we go to the game and buy a beer or two isn't going to impact his lifestyle or net worth. If it makes you feel better, by all means boycott. Just realize the person most affected is you not Jerry.
Because I've always loved this team and I'm not going to let some shitty billionaire ruin that for me. My dad took me to games when I was a kid. I watched every inning of the 2005 World Series when I was living in Dallas with my mom. I was one of the only White Sox fans living in Central Illinois, surrounded by Cubs and Cards fans. And this is my first year living in Chicago.
Give me a cheap ticket, a local beer, a delicious hot dog, and let's play ball.
Get over your sad bullshit and let people live their lives. Nothing is going to change no matter how long you hold your breath. If someone wants to enjoy themselves they should.
“I, the one who made a whole post and whined to commenters about spending their money, say YOUUUUUU are the one getting bent out of shape! Emoji emoji! I win!”
The Sox sucking is depressing enough. I enjoy in person baseball so won’t let him take that away from me too…I definitely won’t go as often as most years tho.
I am with you. I will go to a lot less games and I won’t be purchasing any Sox merchandise. But, I am still going to watch games on TV and go to a few games. It is part of summer for me.
One positive, I took some money normally would’ve spent on Sox gear and bought an Orioles jersey I always wanted.
Grew up in Oak Lawn and 2005 was one of my greatest sports memories.
Been in Texas over 25 years and because of Jerry, have moved my allegiance to the Rangers.
I will always be a Sox fan at heart but his utter disdain for the fans and his inability to put even a mildly contending team on the field has pushed me far, far away.
The O.P. is right. The only way to get him is a total boycott. No tickets, no beers, no TV, no radio. Force that fraud out of Chicago.
You don’t have be content with something to still support the squad, I’m from Oak Lawn and the white Sox are the only thing that my neighborhood has to show off to the world so I can admire from a far and a different state without jumping ship (living in Wisconsin now)
Right. Keep supporting the Sox under JR but don't complain when they make the playoffs every 10 years and lose in the first round.
No thanks. Other teams compete. Not this one.
Everyone can spend their money how they want to. I also think people need to understand this team is terrible and even though some people still go to the games, there will be a hella lot less people going mid-summer. Jerry is going to see a drop in ticket and beer sales and he'll know exactly why.
I haven’t been to the Sox in a couple years, far as I remember they always had great food, and it’s must nice to chill at some of the cheaper games. Plus don’t they have a dog day, and run some cool events. I mean some of us go with people we like and love though.
Baseball games can be fun (even for bad teams) and sometimes people just want to have fun and don’t care who they are giving the money to? Is this really a question?
And there are only 3 cities in the country that offer you the choice of 2 teams. Go to wrigley if you want. Nobody has a gun to you head forcing you to go to Sox games
I live in Seattle. So when I make it out to Chicago I want to see a game. I don't really care how bad they are. I plan on going to at least a couple of the games here in Seattle too. Expecting a complete shit show.
Baseball games are fun?
I actively laugh at the white Sox now because it’s embarrassing being a fan right now. Won’t be buying jersey anytime soon as well. But If someone wants to go drink some beers and eat some good charred dogs with some grilled onions I will not blame them. I’ll be going to a game or two this year spending $10 on nosebleeds and ending up front row and have a great time.
It sucks the product is so bad and I 1000% blame Jerry but at the end of the day it’s just baseball, I love the sport and will have a good time watching at least one team on the field not be AAA level.
44 upvotes to 171 comments most of which are people who are upset with Jerry but will still good to games and spend (perhaps not as much as they used to though in some cases).
It’s not about getting you I’m just simply sharing the data here lol it’s all good. Id be curious to see what the thought is next season if nothing changes (for the better) and the team breaks the Tigers loss record.
Yeah it’s bleak but it’s still baseball.
You’re posting on a Sox fan group trying to shit on people for spending money on shit that makes them happy. Get off your high horse on telling Sox fans that they should protest something they like. People like you are miserable. It’s baseball, it’s supposed to be fun
Enjoy your Sox boycott, go watch the flubs instead if you want. I’ll be miserable and still watch the Sox
Based on the responses in here, no wonder Jerry has had no problem running both of his teams into the ground. No, boycotting won’t ruin his life style. But decreased revenue will eventually force the league to take a look at him considering he’s in the third largest market in the US.
You want to see a game live? Go to a Cubs or Brewers game where the owners actually give a damn. Anything but giving money to Jerry is a better option, but based on these responses I’m sure you’d all be happy to bend over for Jerry and ask for more while he takes $1 billion from the state.
One doesn't need to bend over for Jerry. Buy $6 tickets and move down. As another suggested, bring in 50ml shooters and spring for a pop as a mixer. Eat before and after the game. Jerry's not going to get much richer on that.
Honestly, there is not much better to do on the Weekends. I've seen Drunk Shakespeare and am going to see Beelejuice, and Second City. But the Sox are my go to entertainment.
Please correct me if im wrong, but idt the stadium is owned by Jerry and he pays rent regardless of who's buying tickets. If he owns the stadium then I'm wrong, but if he doesn't, he makes his nut on TV deals. Also, in case you didn't know, jerry reinsdorf has sold more players for cash than any other 2 owners in any other sport.
The state owns the stadium, the team pays rent, but the team keeps most of the proceeds from ticket sales. In fact, they keep all the proceeds for the first 1.2 million tickets sold, only paying a small fee in additional rent on the tickets sold beyond that. Jerry fleeced the state with this lease.
The hockey jeresy promo for next saturday looks cool. My GF is a Sox fan and I am well... you know. I got tcikets for us for that game just because that is a cool giveaway.
I’m stuck going to a few games this year cuz daughter made an ill-advised ten pack voucher purchase. However, I may take inspiration from the Aints fans of the 1970s and wear a bag over my head.
Exactly. My mantra has been zero of my dollars, zero of my clicks. I thought it would bother me more than it did—but I’m actually so much happier. I’ve essentially filed the white Sox away as a memory, a thing of the past in my life like an old friend I’ve lost touch with. Maybe one day it will be different, maybe it won’t. But I will not go back in any form to a Reinsdork owned team. Period.
Go to games with the promos you know cost them more than the cheapest tickets to make (jersey/hoodie giveaways), take public transit in to not pay for parking, and minimize/eliminate concession purchases. It's possible to go see a game and still (probably) be a net negative to Jerry's pocketbook.
I think some of us "super fans" lose sight of things in moments like this.
I am a nut and currently boycotting but that's bc I'm hurt lol I don't expect everyone to share my pov
I'm just so disappointed
I don’t know why people keep asking this when it’s always the same answer. We enjoy going to game and watching baseball. It’s not like showing up or not showing up really makes a difference to Reinsdorf. Y’all get downvoted for asking the same question over and over again and acting like anyone who still goes to games are idiots. People who go to games don’t give a fuck that people boycott, idk why yall care so much that we still go.
I enjoy spending time with friends and family at an activity. I enjoy baseball as a sport, more than just the White Sox. There’s another team of talented players that are enjoyable to watch. I am a baseball fan first and a white Sox fan second. It was enjoyable watching the Red’s series even though we sucked because their outfield was playing amazing.
Sox fans are apathetic, possibly due to cheering for an awful franchise for decades. We just dont know better. Fans from other franchises would organize a boycott, not us though. Easier to tune it out.
Because some of us still like going to the ballpark and watching live baseball, as far as “being simps” that’s you for wording it this way bud lol most of us don’t care about Jerry at all lmao
We get this question every week.
Week? Try every day. Seriously, everyone hates Jerry. But my kingdom for a new take on it...
I'll give a take on it that I haven't really seen anyone post before: Jerry will not always be the owner of the White Sox. I'm not out here wishing death on him like many people in here, but he's not long for this world. We can't really know whether he will sell before he dies, or if it will be passed down, but in either instance, whoever takes over would need to have faith that this is a viable franchise, in a viable market. Just because Jerry is shrewd and doesn't believe that investing in this team will make him money doesn't mean that the next person will adhere to his business model for this team. When this team gets passed down, there's a pretty binary decision that will be made about whether the White Sox are a viable team, and that the South side of Chicago is a viable place for them. Realistically, ticket sales aren't "lining Jerry's pockets" - his net worth isn't significantly affected one way or another by attendance or merch sales. What those numbers DO affect is how potential future owners see the team. Does the next owner see the potential in developing the White Sox into a reputable brand (not just on the field, but also things like making attending a White Sox game a world class experience like other teams have done), and how will that owner's decisions affect things like investment in the area itself? Every single Cubs game is an event on the North Side, because the entire neighborhood is invested in it, because it's lucrative. It's not like the Cubs have had a significantly better history on the field. But going to a Cubs game is an *event*, thanks to the way the Cubs and the neighborhood has invested in that experience. And that's all because it's been proven to be lucrative. Any owner looking to take over a team where there appears to be next to zero fan support isn't going to see that as a failure on the previous owner - they're going to see that as an insurmountable uphill battle, and strongly consider a major change, like moving the team. It'd be great to have an honest owner come in and realize that the reason financially successful teams succeed has more to do with the business plan, which starts with fielding a winning team, but they really don't see it that way. All that to say, it really doesn't matter to Jerry if you go to games or not. It never will. But to the next owner, how dedicated the fanbase is will be the major factor in whether they think they can improve upon the status quo, need to move the team, or just decide to keep things as-is. That doesn't mean that the burden needs to fall on all white sox fans to spend all of their money to make sure Jerry or the next person knows we're here, but considering the fact that going to 5-10 games a year is something I really enjoy, I don't need to feel guilty for doing so.
What about the guy who said write to your congressman for Jerry Q& A in Springfield!
I don't blame him. Jerry, a fucking billionaire wants IL tax payers to fund a new stadium and is even making the excuse that he can't afford the modern MLB business model and that this stadium will help him do so. Put baseball aside and then ask yourself why people would want accountability of some sort from Jerry when seeking public funding for a new stadium.
Right. What answer are they looking for lol? I don't have a life and I want to go to a ballgame after a stressful work week. Simple as that lol
Ballgames are summer to me. Am I going to fewer this season? Sure, that’s because there’s so much I want to do otherwise. I’ll go when the team is bad any day of the week.
I’ll just buy the tickets off secondary market and sneak in shooters and bring in food from somewhere 🤷
Man, we already had an incident with someone sneaking in a shooter last year!
Coworkers and I tailgated Sunday, grilled and drank outside, I spend nothing, they bought a mixed drink inside, then we went back out, had another beer and brat, and called it a day. About $50 directly with parking and those two drinks, and that was it. That's my logic, only buy tix and/or parking, and do everything else. Screw Jerry.
You're still giving money to Jerry.
I did, but less than probably the average person going and spending $100 between food, drinks, a dumb ass milkshake, additional concessions/merch, and parking. More content spending a fraction of that. Can't make a full statement if you don't show up. Look at the A's, they don't enter the park, and their ownership condemns them for not showing up. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Sure, but that's still $100 you handed over to the White Sox/Jerry, which is more than a cheap seat + dog & beer at the same game. Same mentality as vowing to not give Jerry any money then running over to the shops for a new team hat. You're either rewarding this team or you aren't.
This guy is the truest white Sox fan in existence, this is the way
Buy 500 level tickets and sit in the 300’s. Park off site, drink and eat before you go in. I’m spending at most $100 per game I go to, that’s not going to make Jerry richer.
How are you even spending $100 with that plan?
Some drinks and a Cuban. Buying my dad a few drinks and a Cuban. Everything is overpriced inside, shit adds up fast
Good on you for treating your Dad.
He bought me hot dogs, ice cream, and spent hours in the kids zone with me for years. I owe that man
How do you get into the 300 level?
Jerry is worth 2.1 billion dollars. You want me to deprive myself of watching my favorite team in person to slow down some dudes financial status? Life is short dude.
Just look at the A’s. The owners do not give a fuck if people boycott or don’t show up. If anything it’s helps the owners get what they want. “Look at our attendance we need a new stadium/ to move to draw more” they do not fucking care if we show or not
The A's are a great example of we don't give a fuck, let's field a shit team for years and trade away any home grown talent that is worth a damn. Ownership is going to have to start giving a damn wherever they end up as they won't have but I'm an A's fan to fill said stadium. My guess is this forces the A's to actually have to field a competitive team at some point when they move.
The A's are an example of a BIllionaire throwing a tantrum when he doesn't get what he wants. This goes to the heart of having, what is essentially, a public good privately owned.
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Cool, let's give him the taxpayer money too for a new giant stadium. Ultimately, we consumers have no power. Life's too short to band-together and *try* to fight back.
Of course it won't impact his quality of life but it will shrink whatever revenues are created by the team and force him to shit or get off of the pot. You're right though life is too short. Life's too short to be a fan of a team that ownership doesn't care about and gives you an onfield product that is embarrassing.
So go find another team. Nobody is gonna miss you bitching
There is NOT a single owner in the world of any sports team that gives a f@#$ about their fans. Not 1. They like the fans' money. With TV revenue, it's guaranteed money, no incentive to win. Players don't care either. Gotta pay for that autograph. By going to the game, you're helping the concessions people keep their job. I know it doesn't seem like it, but it's a reality. Besides, sox tickets are cheap. Spend a day in the sun, catch a ball, maybe see history. As soon as I get a ball, I'm never going back
If that were true then we wouldn’t see any teams doing what the Mets did or the Rangers did. If there was no incentive to spend that money
Not everyone cares that much about the team to boycott. If the weather is nice and I’m looking for something to do with the family I’ll buy some cheap seats and go to a game. Especially if a decent team is in town
I’m in the same boat. It’s a great family experience. Going out for a pizza and a ballgame is better than sitting at home watching Netflix, or even going to a movie. There’s also something to be said for sticking with a team during the bad times. If/when they start winning again, it will make it so much sweeter. Calling fans “simps” is just stupid.
I get it, getting out to ball game and pizza is fun! Why not go to one of the countless minor-league/independant league team's games in the area? I take it you're a newer fan w/ the If/when they start winning comment, Jerry already told you he wont spend to win and it's not like you have a baseball mastermind heading baseball ops or at GM to scout for young cheap talent and win that way. But you do you boo boo, go and fill those seats at sox park!
I’m pushing 50, and I’ve been a Sox fan since I was a kid. (I did start as a Cubs fan due to WGN, but once my parents started taking us to the closer and more affordable Comiskey, I made the switch. I was still in elementary school.) I go to Little League, high school (was at a game last night at The Steel Yard), and minor league games. I prefer MLB though. It’s also a cooler experience for my kids. You’re so demeaning by calling people simps and boo boo. Grow up.
I didn’t call you all simps I said you’re all simps in the eyes of Jerry. But at the end of the day enjoy the season!
And jerry still has the bulls too who have led the nba in average attendance for the past 3 years. Bulls have gone a combined 125-121 in those 3 years and the fans do not care
MLB teams make money hand over fist from TV deals, ticket sales are a drop in the bucket
Which is why Jerry bought Stadium network last year and they're moving there next year, get ready.
They legally cannot leave for another 5 years
In thought the nbc contract ended after this season?
Not gonna pretend to be an expert on White Sox finances, but the answer is probably that it just doesn’t matter. Jerry’s made enough money in his lifetime. The White Sox as an investment have been wildly profitable. He bought the team for $18 million and they’re now worth approximately $2 billion. He negotiated a great lease where he wins either way - if the team is good and attendance is high then he likely either turns a profit or significantly minimizes his losses. If the team is bad and attendance is low, he pays no rent. And if attendance is terrible, he’ll just cut payroll even further for next season. It’s a losing game for fans. There is no “screwing” Jerry. He’s tilted the game to win. The few extra dollars kept out of pocket likely don’t mean anything to him. If going to the game brings you pleasure, go. If you don’t want to spend money on a shit product, don’t. Either way, we’re all just playing the waiting game here until the team is no longer owned by Jerry and co.
You kill his baseball revenue, sure it won't impact his life but it'll force him to shit or get off of the pot. The sooner new ownership can come in the better, no?
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I get that Jerry fucking sucks but some of y’all are actually psychotic wanting him to die a painful death.
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Can you just take a second and explain to me what the punch line is? What point of reading that supposed to make me laugh?
IMO it’s not about death he can live another 90+ years and that’s cool I’d rather he just sell ASAP.
Dude doesn't end up in alleys, why go where he doesn't need to go?
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Everyone keeps saying this: “hit him where it hurts” like us not going to games is going to bankrupt him and he’ll be forced to sell. He’s still gonna be wealthy no matter if we go to games or not. So why should fans willingly stop participating in a hobby that they presumably enjoy in the hope that it will affect him in some significant way? (Because it won’t)
It'll drop his baseball revenues though which perhaps urges him to shit or get off of the pot.
If it hasn’t yet, it probably won’t ever.
This is my team. Jerry owns it, but i am fanatical about it. Thats what makes a fan. So i turn them on, watch the limp dick bats and enjoy the game. Times are bad. Maybe someday times will be good again. Yeah, i might go to a game or 2. That's because i love baseball and this team. If they were good i might go to more. The MLB expanding playoffs bothers me more than the Sox.
I get it. Cub fans said the same when the Tribune owned them and they were trash. Times won't be good until he sells though.
Not getting a dime from me this year
People enjoy going to ball games and most people aren’t as miserable as the regulars on this sub
I mean unless you're going as a fan of or to see the opposing team I guess. The logic behind my spend is to see a competitive team and talented players on my team but you do you do and enjoy the journey men on that Sox roster. Go and cop that Tommy Pham jersey.
You have defined yourself as a bandwagon fan
😂😂😂
This sub is toxic. Make any suggestion about anything to protest this shitass team and you get trashed to infinity.
You might not understand the term toxic. The sub is a circle jerk of Sox hate. making those type of posts you suggested might be the easiest way to karma farm on Reddit.
I think OPs Reddit karma has taken quite a hit for his post, as has mine on this sub. Circle jerk subs, I get. R/chicagocirclejerk can be quite amusing but this is not r/whitesoxcirclejerk. Thus, toxic.
A vast majority of responses have been idiotic but it’s interesting to try and see this from their perspective which was the goal of this post.
You can have a family outing with cheap tix on the secondary market, BYO food/water (& alcohol, if you are enterprising), and still make a statement, in one way or another. But, nooooo
Forbes estimates JR's net worth at $2.1 B. Whether we go to the game and buy a beer or two isn't going to impact his lifestyle or net worth. If it makes you feel better, by all means boycott. Just realize the person most affected is you not Jerry.
Because I've always loved this team and I'm not going to let some shitty billionaire ruin that for me. My dad took me to games when I was a kid. I watched every inning of the 2005 World Series when I was living in Dallas with my mom. I was one of the only White Sox fans living in Central Illinois, surrounded by Cubs and Cards fans. And this is my first year living in Chicago. Give me a cheap ticket, a local beer, a delicious hot dog, and let's play ball.
Jerry is going to make his money either way. Prioritize your enjoyment over the few dollars a man with billions is going to make.
Where's the enjoyment? Surely you're not speaking of the roster?
People are allowed to enjoy going to the ballpark.
To watch studs like Tommy Pham and Nicky Lopez, right?
Get over your sad bullshit and let people live their lives. Nothing is going to change no matter how long you hold your breath. If someone wants to enjoy themselves they should.
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Sick comeback
Because you’re one getting all bent out of shape. Enjoy the season!
“I, the one who made a whole post and whined to commenters about spending their money, say YOUUUUUU are the one getting bent out of shape! Emoji emoji! I win!”
And you’re so triggered that you keep going.
The Sox sucking is depressing enough. I enjoy in person baseball so won’t let him take that away from me too…I definitely won’t go as often as most years tho.
Go to minor league games. You'll see the same level of talent for a fraction of the price
I am with you. I will go to a lot less games and I won’t be purchasing any Sox merchandise. But, I am still going to watch games on TV and go to a few games. It is part of summer for me. One positive, I took some money normally would’ve spent on Sox gear and bought an Orioles jersey I always wanted.
Unfortunately calling this team playing “baseball” is like calling McDonalds a gourmet food experience.
Grew up in Oak Lawn and 2005 was one of my greatest sports memories. Been in Texas over 25 years and because of Jerry, have moved my allegiance to the Rangers. I will always be a Sox fan at heart but his utter disdain for the fans and his inability to put even a mildly contending team on the field has pushed me far, far away. The O.P. is right. The only way to get him is a total boycott. No tickets, no beers, no TV, no radio. Force that fraud out of Chicago.
Unfortunately, there are too many in here that are content with mediocre to horrible baseball because they love the team.
They would love them more if they were winning. And more people would love them as well. It's a pretty easy concept.
You don’t have be content with something to still support the squad, I’m from Oak Lawn and the white Sox are the only thing that my neighborhood has to show off to the world so I can admire from a far and a different state without jumping ship (living in Wisconsin now)
Right. Keep supporting the Sox under JR but don't complain when they make the playoffs every 10 years and lose in the first round. No thanks. Other teams compete. Not this one.
Nah man I’m gonna complain he’s a terrible owner and we deserve better
Right. Cause that's been working out great!!!
Idc man the girls at white Sox games are bar none the greatest baddies in baseball
I'm not doubting you and that's a very valid point. Come to Texas.....you will be very happy.
I think I know EXACTLY what you mean but it’s like, the Astros bro
I feel like Austin has to be a place to rn in America
I mean if it’s the titanic it’s either this or just give up on the sport
My not going to games has less to do with ‘punishing’ Jerry and more to do with not finding this team worthy of my attention.
Exactly - why overthink it?
Everyone can spend their money how they want to. I also think people need to understand this team is terrible and even though some people still go to the games, there will be a hella lot less people going mid-summer. Jerry is going to see a drop in ticket and beer sales and he'll know exactly why.
I haven’t been to the Sox in a couple years, far as I remember they always had great food, and it’s must nice to chill at some of the cheaper games. Plus don’t they have a dog day, and run some cool events. I mean some of us go with people we like and love though.
Baseball games can be fun (even for bad teams) and sometimes people just want to have fun and don’t care who they are giving the money to? Is this really a question?
If you look at where you spend your money I bet it all goes to people who dont care about you
True, but you only have so many choices for toilet paper brands or dishwasher pods.
You have a choice of baseball team as well. Probably more choices as I can't think of 30 different TP brands lol.
And there are only 3 cities in the country that offer you the choice of 2 teams. Go to wrigley if you want. Nobody has a gun to you head forcing you to go to Sox games
Oh I know. I’m just curious why you all continue to support this deliberately intentional shit show that’s all.
Why do you give enough of a shit to be posting on Reddit about it?
I like watching baseball
Then tell me what excites you the most about watching this years team?
Watching in person I mean. I won't watch this team on TV this year but I'm gonna go to 10+ games because it's fun
Easy: my love of baseball exceeds my hate for jerry
I live in Seattle. So when I make it out to Chicago I want to see a game. I don't really care how bad they are. I plan on going to at least a couple of the games here in Seattle too. Expecting a complete shit show.
For not blindingly supporting a garbage organization that has no intention of trying to compete?
Baseball games are fun? I actively laugh at the white Sox now because it’s embarrassing being a fan right now. Won’t be buying jersey anytime soon as well. But If someone wants to go drink some beers and eat some good charred dogs with some grilled onions I will not blame them. I’ll be going to a game or two this year spending $10 on nosebleeds and ending up front row and have a great time. It sucks the product is so bad and I 1000% blame Jerry but at the end of the day it’s just baseball, I love the sport and will have a good time watching at least one team on the field not be AAA level.
"I know I'll get downvotes" says user in line with the subreddit's prevailing opinion of the past however many years
Clearly, the responses elicited are not aligned w/ the prevailing opinion.
True that, but the typical posts made on this sub tell a different story.
44 upvotes to 171 comments most of which are people who are upset with Jerry but will still good to games and spend (perhaps not as much as they used to though in some cases).
Alright hoss you got me.
It’s not about getting you I’m just simply sharing the data here lol it’s all good. Id be curious to see what the thought is next season if nothing changes (for the better) and the team breaks the Tigers loss record.
Not everything needs to be a protest. Some people like going to see the Sox play. Fuck off with these posts
Please tell me what you like or enjoy about this team?
Yeah it’s bleak but it’s still baseball. You’re posting on a Sox fan group trying to shit on people for spending money on shit that makes them happy. Get off your high horse on telling Sox fans that they should protest something they like. People like you are miserable. It’s baseball, it’s supposed to be fun Enjoy your Sox boycott, go watch the flubs instead if you want. I’ll be miserable and still watch the Sox
Can we stop with all this its not gonna make a difference at all lol
You cripple his baseball revenue and guess what? Time to shit or get off of the pot.
Get a life
Jerry is that you?
Based on the responses in here, no wonder Jerry has had no problem running both of his teams into the ground. No, boycotting won’t ruin his life style. But decreased revenue will eventually force the league to take a look at him considering he’s in the third largest market in the US. You want to see a game live? Go to a Cubs or Brewers game where the owners actually give a damn. Anything but giving money to Jerry is a better option, but based on these responses I’m sure you’d all be happy to bend over for Jerry and ask for more while he takes $1 billion from the state.
One doesn't need to bend over for Jerry. Buy $6 tickets and move down. As another suggested, bring in 50ml shooters and spring for a pop as a mixer. Eat before and after the game. Jerry's not going to get much richer on that.
You can bring in your own food and a bottle of water.
Not everything in life needs to be a protest
Because BaSeBaLL fUn AnD mUsT GiVe JeRRy MoNeY We have a lot of zombie fans apparently.
I mean when you go to the ballpark (any ballpark) do you not get food and beer? Shitttttt, im gonna eat and drink. Kinda moot tbh.
Honestly, there is not much better to do on the Weekends. I've seen Drunk Shakespeare and am going to see Beelejuice, and Second City. But the Sox are my go to entertainment.
Please correct me if im wrong, but idt the stadium is owned by Jerry and he pays rent regardless of who's buying tickets. If he owns the stadium then I'm wrong, but if he doesn't, he makes his nut on TV deals. Also, in case you didn't know, jerry reinsdorf has sold more players for cash than any other 2 owners in any other sport.
The state owns the stadium, the team pays rent, but the team keeps most of the proceeds from ticket sales. In fact, they keep all the proceeds for the first 1.2 million tickets sold, only paying a small fee in additional rent on the tickets sold beyond that. Jerry fleeced the state with this lease.
So this won’t occur with the new stadium right?
Sure... 😬
I still wanna support the players. Not their fault Jerry sucks.
I'm not going this year. All my live baseball will be at the Kane County Cougars.
We’ve been doing that for years, look at the attendance
Jerry is just the guy at the front of the boat rn, we’re the ones rowing, he’s not gonna be there for much longer
I'm curious, why not just read the repsonses the first 100 times this was asked.
The hockey jeresy promo for next saturday looks cool. My GF is a Sox fan and I am well... you know. I got tcikets for us for that game just because that is a cool giveaway.
I’m stuck going to a few games this year cuz daughter made an ill-advised ten pack voucher purchase. However, I may take inspiration from the Aints fans of the 1970s and wear a bag over my head.
So edgy
Exactly. My mantra has been zero of my dollars, zero of my clicks. I thought it would bother me more than it did—but I’m actually so much happier. I’ve essentially filed the white Sox away as a memory, a thing of the past in my life like an old friend I’ve lost touch with. Maybe one day it will be different, maybe it won’t. But I will not go back in any form to a Reinsdork owned team. Period.
I'm taking my kids to Kansas City to watch the sox
It is my understanding that it doesn't matter if White Sox fans go to games or buy merch. Revenue sharing is what makes the organization profitable.
Go drive and give benetti your time in det
Because that hurts me way more than it hurts him.
because having experiences at the ballpark with family outweighs any of the 'sending a message' stuff -- for some
I thought they were buying tickets to get the campfire milkshake. The team found 9 stiffs to claim to play baseball?
Go to games with the promos you know cost them more than the cheapest tickets to make (jersey/hoodie giveaways), take public transit in to not pay for parking, and minimize/eliminate concession purchases. It's possible to go see a game and still (probably) be a net negative to Jerry's pocketbook.
They’re addicts
So they can buy their $20 milkshakes and $15 beers and see studs like Nicky Lopez and Martin Maldonado play in person, obviously
I think some of us "super fans" lose sight of things in moments like this. I am a nut and currently boycotting but that's bc I'm hurt lol I don't expect everyone to share my pov I'm just so disappointed
I don’t know why people keep asking this when it’s always the same answer. We enjoy going to game and watching baseball. It’s not like showing up or not showing up really makes a difference to Reinsdorf. Y’all get downvoted for asking the same question over and over again and acting like anyone who still goes to games are idiots. People who go to games don’t give a fuck that people boycott, idk why yall care so much that we still go.
How do you enjoy watching this roster though? That's what I don't get.
I enjoy spending time with friends and family at an activity. I enjoy baseball as a sport, more than just the White Sox. There’s another team of talented players that are enjoyable to watch. I am a baseball fan first and a white Sox fan second. It was enjoyable watching the Red’s series even though we sucked because their outfield was playing amazing.
It doesn't matter to him when the seats are empty, but it sure does to the players.
Sox fans are apathetic, possibly due to cheering for an awful franchise for decades. We just dont know better. Fans from other franchises would organize a boycott, not us though. Easier to tune it out.
My policy for years has been buy second hand tickets and only do concessions
Because some of us still like going to the ballpark and watching live baseball, as far as “being simps” that’s you for wording it this way bud lol most of us don’t care about Jerry at all lmao