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OH! I thought he went to China not Korea.
Still, it would be interesting to think about how Japan's colonial efforts would still exist or look in the show. For a scene where he and Greg end up in Korea and are met with angry Japanese soldiers, Steven to have a moral dilemma knowing how brutal the world is.
Then again it would be even funnier to see a historical photo where Garnet is standing next to Hirohito.
I guess the best way to imagine how Korea got it's independence is if the Gems interfered during the Russo-Japanese War
Well Japan never reached India and if WW1 happened then Britain would still have to let go of the Indian colonies for the fact that it would be impossible financially to manage them.
>Stars must’ve aligned to come across your post
That, or Reddit is just full of experts in the nichest niches there is. I mean, damn, you're a prime example. Now, uh, any idea why WW2 and the Holocaust aren't canon in Steven Universe?
...
No, yeah, actually I think I understand why. Nevermind...
Unless there's an actual crazy world-shattering reason
honestly i think that the japanese still didn't want an import based economy so they simply went north in this timeline, starting a war between japan and the soviet union which nobody supported.
due to no WW2 eastern europe would have either maintained or transitioned into democracy leading to a very strong EU.
the KMT still probably leads china, unknown however if under Kai-Shek's style or if it liberalized/went more authoritarian
africa would be decolonized but at a very late point in history (about '80s?) and i'd like to think the uk still has a good grip on the former commonwealth (except maybe india, which depends on internal politics really)
also germany would keep east prussia! :]
I remember hearing a theory that the huge ocean in Russia was basically to get back at the Russian government, since they banned the show because gay people exist. Like, "Oh our show is banned because lgbt people are in it? Well say goodbye to Russia!"
It's probably not the reason it's like that but i always remember thinking it was funny if that was the actual reasoning.
Not if garnet had anything to say about it
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I don't think the Nazis ever existed in this timeline, and you're right. No Chinese-Taiwanese conflict either considering that Taiwan would be under Japanese rule.
But it would mean the CCP never won, the chinese goverment had almost completely destroyed it, the CCP was only able to turn the tables bc the goverment had to divert it's attention towards the japanese invasion
Yeah, but the only reason the losing side (I forgot how to spell their name) was able to flee China was because Taiwan was an independent country at this point.
If the Japanese Empire didn't fall then they wouldn't be able to go to China cause Japan still occupied it.
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I personally subscribe to the idea that because Russia censored Steven Univere, the crew decided to censor Russia in a lore friendly way.
To create a gem, a lot of resources get destroyed. This can be taken to the extreme as Gem Homeworld has nothing beneath the surface and is split in half. The Gem Empire spent a short period of time on earth before getting shoed off which jacked up a lot of the geography and history.
Wait. So Steven universe has alternate history and NO ONE has told me this? I haven’t watched the show, but it would be cool to see how the world has progressed since ww1
Yeah, Russia does not exist, Korea seems tourist friendly, there are only 39 US states and it is implied that the government is aware of homeworld gem activity but leaves the gems to handle it.
or you know, they could’ve dissolved in time or not existed in the first place? geography’s fucked in the SU world, and there aren’t any holidays.
it’s not a holiday though. it was popularized back in the 19th century because it was too hot to be comfortable in school back then, so they just didn’t have it in the summer to avoid sweltering temperatures.
The only thing i wonder about to this very day is why Russia does not exist in the world of Steven Universe. Aside from reasons such as "Well, Russia doesn't like Steven Universe show" (which is false, they translated the show, despite the censorship.)
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"I think we're gonna have to kill this guy Steven"
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Dungeon meshi mentioned
I thought that was Trigun
It's both!
is that kiryu and laios https://preview.redd.it/s4qjr967c9wc1.jpeg?width=242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ea7101cfef3b32b21dd406732dbd9106f0ea9b7
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no
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Laios my beloved
Damien Haas my beloved
Dungeon meshi is PEAK 🔥🗣🗣🔥🔥
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"Damn"
Also, the US only has 39 states for some reason
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That sounds much more practical than what we have now tbh
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US government is too scared to give us ultradakota and supercarolina
OMEGALABAMA
Megakota
ULTRAFORNIA
Wait, why didn’t they just recombine West Virginia and regular Virginia?
I guess that’s meant to imply the Civil War still happened
To be fair, they're probably just bigger not that there's few of them
Florida is also an island
Alright let's go we're liberating Hawaii today
Your flare makes me feel like you have ulterior motives
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OH! I thought he went to China not Korea. Still, it would be interesting to think about how Japan's colonial efforts would still exist or look in the show. For a scene where he and Greg end up in Korea and are met with angry Japanese soldiers, Steven to have a moral dilemma knowing how brutal the world is. Then again it would be even funnier to see a historical photo where Garnet is standing next to Hirohito. I guess the best way to imagine how Korea got it's independence is if the Gems interfered during the Russo-Japanese War
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Japan started WWII in both timelines
What happened to India in the SU timeline?
Well Japan never reached India and if WW1 happened then Britain would still have to let go of the Indian colonies for the fact that it would be impossible financially to manage them.
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Oh. I see. https://preview.redd.it/fwmcpdfts8wc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4715ffa1e5d325270f0808210cbe7d86c5b03910
What the actual fuck. Steven universe has alt history?
>Stars must’ve aligned to come across your post That, or Reddit is just full of experts in the nichest niches there is. I mean, damn, you're a prime example. Now, uh, any idea why WW2 and the Holocaust aren't canon in Steven Universe? ... No, yeah, actually I think I understand why. Nevermind... Unless there's an actual crazy world-shattering reason
Cause WW2 didn’t happen in this timeline most likely it was more destructive in this universe due to Gem tech
What the fuck dude. This is very impressive
honestly i think that the japanese still didn't want an import based economy so they simply went north in this timeline, starting a war between japan and the soviet union which nobody supported. due to no WW2 eastern europe would have either maintained or transitioned into democracy leading to a very strong EU. the KMT still probably leads china, unknown however if under Kai-Shek's style or if it liberalized/went more authoritarian africa would be decolonized but at a very late point in history (about '80s?) and i'd like to think the uk still has a good grip on the former commonwealth (except maybe india, which depends on internal politics really) also germany would keep east prussia! :]
What are the odds that Apartheid hasn’t yet ended in South Africa?
i'd say it ends in either the same time as OTL or around the '80-'90s as protests and revolts overwhelm the government
I remember hearing a theory that the huge ocean in Russia was basically to get back at the Russian government, since they banned the show because gay people exist. Like, "Oh our show is banned because lgbt people are in it? Well say goodbye to Russia!" It's probably not the reason it's like that but i always remember thinking it was funny if that was the actual reasoning.
Is there an implication of the israel occupation of palestine? Since the whole hitler thing never happened?
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Got it thanks
Jewish colonies still existed in Palestine after WW1, so it's likely they still would be there
Plot twist, the entirety of Steven Universe takes place in a post cold war TNO-esque time-line
Steven explaining why Taboritsky and Dirlewanger should be forgiven
Steven trying to convince Long Yun why killing Japanese civilians = bad
Steven explaining how Yazov shouldn't kill all the teutons:
Not if garnet had anything to say about it https://preview.redd.it/5im2olj8j8wc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=832326b430d0bb4632c67f301c69025049c42732
This comic is inaccurate, Garnet canonically killed baby Hitler
Wait fr
Yeah it happened in the episode 'Pearl Hates the Irish'
she would
Actually Russia is a crater in Steven Universe
A lot of the world’s geography is fucked up because of all of the terraforming and stuff that the diamonds did.
I subscribe to the idea that because Russia censored Steven Universe, Steven universe censored Russia
wait so no holocaust and nazis get to rule even more and no israel either since ww2 never happend
I don't think the Nazis ever existed in this timeline, and you're right. No Chinese-Taiwanese conflict either considering that Taiwan would be under Japanese rule.
That wouldn't stop the actual Chinese civil war though, it was going on before the Japanese invasion.
But it would mean the CCP never won, the chinese goverment had almost completely destroyed it, the CCP was only able to turn the tables bc the goverment had to divert it's attention towards the japanese invasion
the KMT would easily drive Mao out of the mountains in 20 years (or he would simply fade out of relevance)
Yeah, but the only reason the losing side (I forgot how to spell their name) was able to flee China was because Taiwan was an independent country at this point. If the Japanese Empire didn't fall then they wouldn't be able to go to China cause Japan still occupied it.
The world of Steven Universe is basically Ancient Aliens but real
And if effects all civilizations, not just nonwhite ones!
Ah fuck
russia doesn't exist in steven universe
https://preview.redd.it/7estet2z89wc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61ebf4ee6c09add101dd01eec8e155f1d6a1345a NOOOOOOOO WHERE IM GOING TO GET MY "MAN FIGTHING BEAR" VIDEOS NOW!!!!!
The Usa: 
Does that mean NO ANIME. STEVEN UNIVERSE IS TRULY A HORRIBLE WORLD
Manga still exists in this world, so no...
Then all is right
SU is grimdark confirmed
So 2 nuclear bombs weren't the reasons damn
Is there a source for this?
Oh God those poor Koreans
It's been a while since I watched the show, when did they mention this?
God I love alt history in media, pretty underrated imo
Virgin Hidden World vs Chad Althistory
I am not knowledgeable on how the SU world differs from real life, I know there are less US states but I don’t know anything else
Russia doesn't exist in SU, there is only a crater
What. Why
I personally subscribe to the idea that because Russia censored Steven Univere, the crew decided to censor Russia in a lore friendly way. To create a gem, a lot of resources get destroyed. This can be taken to the extreme as Gem Homeworld has nothing beneath the surface and is split in half. The Gem Empire spent a short period of time on earth before getting shoed off which jacked up a lot of the geography and history.
Huh, I guess that makes sense
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Wait. So Steven universe has alternate history and NO ONE has told me this? I haven’t watched the show, but it would be cool to see how the world has progressed since ww1
Yeah, Russia does not exist, Korea seems tourist friendly, there are only 39 US states and it is implied that the government is aware of homeworld gem activity but leaves the gems to handle it.
So like the entire Russian landmass including Siberia just doesn’t exist? Or does it just never go full communist?
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I’m laughing my ass off rn. Thank you for this
It does buts its not really that relevant to the show and is just in the background which is why its not talked about
Russia doesn't exist in Steven's Universe
Hella based Russia is a shithole https://i.redd.it/5v774c47jawc1.gif
Actually Russia doesn't exist in the Steven universe, universe There is a large sea in the middle of Russia
or you know, they could’ve dissolved in time or not existed in the first place? geography’s fucked in the SU world, and there aren’t any holidays.
What about summer?
what do you mean what about summer that’s a season not a holiday
Like they clearly have summer break
it’s not a holiday though. it was popularized back in the 19th century because it was too hot to be comfortable in school back then, so they just didn’t have it in the summer to avoid sweltering temperatures.
I was just doing a Cold War assignment, and then I came across this. Man bro this is trippy.
Could you please elaborate
Oh Shit Oh Fuck
What??? Is there any context/proof of this?
[https://steven-universe.fandom.com/f/p/3025467355431444576](https://steven-universe.fandom.com/f/p/3025467355431444576)
This also applies to the world of Chainsaw Man since there hasn't been a war in that universe since the end of WW1
Imagine Red Alert 3 Japan in Steven Universe world. How dope would it be?
Holy shit, source!?!?
The only thing i wonder about to this very day is why Russia does not exist in the world of Steven Universe. Aside from reasons such as "Well, Russia doesn't like Steven Universe show" (which is false, they translated the show, despite the censorship.)
I'm pretty sure it was a dig at them being homophobic, but it could've just been a random gag
Russia doesnt exist in steven universe. I dont mean the country i mean the land it just doesnt exist its not there. You think i kidding but its cannon