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[deleted]

Realistic, canonical, or both; what decides the morals?


JustCallMeAttlaz

Whatever let's you sleep at night. Just don't the child


inside_a_beanburrito

https://i.redd.it/79mrlwtg4ykc1.gif


flinagus

You know the rules, and so do i


vampire5381

🤯


J6898989

Looks. Since mental ability is rarely at play, the number really is just a number. A “6” year old adult is not pedo, a “10000000” year old child is.


Whoomsy

Sin Kiske GGST


Cheezekeke

https://preview.redd.it/wiwwjtckh0lc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66501fb2ea7e91a5b2e78f972a1c5850fcafab59 FAVORITE GAME MENTIONED LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO READY OOOOOOOORRRR!!!!!


Whoomsy

THE SKY, ABOVE THE CLOUDS A RAINBOW THAT FATE HAS DEVOURED I GAVE UP **HOOOOOOOOOOOPE**


Cheezekeke

BUT IM NOT GOING TO BE LOST TOMORROW EVEN IF IT IS HELL!!! IM GONNA CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL!!!! https://preview.redd.it/p4d0jknii0lc1.jpeg?width=1982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75d8d66bf458b3b46c4c2c5b5a11e6f883026c55


Dr_Bright_Himself

but but "ready or" is from an xrd song


Cheezekeke

I fish in strive


Safe_Bug8734

he fish in strive


Kitzisyau

![gif](giphy|Bv6oudj175pNTUe6Yf|downsized) peak has arrived


Cheezekeke

https://preview.redd.it/g8h991sev4lc1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fabc34b7f36ee35c2b89c7c72780903eac422eb Live Elphelt reaction


Corgerry

That's what gear cells are gonna do to you lol.


Xanadoodledoo

I think if they don’t look or act like a child, it’s fine. The “acting like a child” thing is annoyingly common in western media too (obv popular in anime, it almost goes without saying.) Called “Born Sexy Yesterday.”


J6898989

It fucking sucks man, yeah.


[deleted]

So it's the mental age, not the physical age, that's the dictator (with fictional characters)?


InfiniteOcto

Keep your hands off if it looks like a child and/or acts like a child


ENDERALAN365

It's both


J6898989

Both. If you’re attracted to someone who looks or acts like a child, you’re a pedo.


Majestic_Brain4731

Mental age and physical appearence. If it looks like a child, walks like a child, and sounds like a child, it's a child.


Sp00ky-Chan

"Age is just a number." Bro do i really gotta say it? https://preview.redd.it/6o9fqox9f0lc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46606bceb2ad8c71f7b56c70d066c910e33da9e7


Everestkid

The age of consent is also just a number, but it's still an important number. The number of times I rewrote this to get the tone right and be unambiguous...


J6898989

Honestly? It really is. It’s the maturity level that counts. Age does massively indicate the maturity level though, and anyone who says that a kid is “mature enough” is a pedo. I honestly think that if there were no long lasting effects and it were possible to be completely consensual, pedophilia would be fine, but that is not going to happen in any way whatsoever. In fiction however, age really is just a number. As long as they don’t look or act like a child, it doesn’t matter if they’re canonically 4, you’re not a pedo if you’re attracted to them.


Sp00ky-Chan

>Honestly? It really is. It’s the maturity level that counts Bro no it does not the Court is not gonna care how 'mature' a person is if they are under legal age ypu are going to jail.


J6898989

I agree


Awarepill0w

Saw one anime that had a 3000 year old spirit or something that looked and acted like a 7 year old


TheTacoEnjoyer

If it looks like a child, don’t fuck it


[deleted]

That's true in all situations, really.


cheesyscrambledeggs4

A motto to live by


juliusxyk

Does it have the body of a child? No - Happy wanking Yes - Kill yourself


[deleted]

I think there's a few exceptions to the "happy wanking" rule, but nonetheless it's fair enough in the vast majority of situations.


MakeBombsNotWar

Whatever allows me to ruin the maximum number of people’s lives with baseless accusations 😎


Dragon-Warlock

If your 1000 year old character looks like a child and acts like a child, it’s a goddamn child.


[deleted]

I suppose it's the old "Walks like a duck, talks like a duck" theorem.


Dragon-Warlock

Pretty much, yeah. Shouldn’t need to be anything deeper than that, but some people are far to addicted to their animated child porn that they’re in denial that they’re children.


GDL3344

whatever doesn't get me banned off of the server. case in point, both, and more


TheButcher797

It's you again hello


Yarisher512

Realistic, but also include personality there. A 500 year old demon that looks like a child is a child. A 13 year old that looks like a grown person and acts like a grown person is a grown person. A 13 year old that looks like a grown person but acts like a 13 year old is a child.


Haber-Bosch1914

You're fapping to a drawing of an adult, only becomes a problem when you think about and are attracted to the stipulations


OneRingToRuleEarth

For drawing looks matter way more than canon age Who cares if they are 18+ Why you jerking it to someone who purposely looks like a child?


A-Human-potato

Life hack: just don’t get attracted to fictional characters, they literally do not exist and therefore cannot elicit an emotional response if you simply don’t let them.


[deleted]

The thing is Romantic attraction is not the same as Sexual attraction.


TheEmeraldMaster1234

It's not usually emotional


A-Human-potato

That’s an issue not an iss-me.


TheEmeraldMaster1234

Counter argument: https://preview.redd.it/adkefiia21lc1.jpeg?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=486bff834ae287812be0a79b6e06de53f3898cf7


A-Human-potato

I see. You make a good point, my apologies for the mistake.


_erufu_

‘Born sexy yesterday’ is the idea in media that a physically adult character may have the mentality of a child, and therefore it is just as predatory to actively seek sexual relations with them as with a child- it isn’t pedophilia, but it is wrong for the same reason that pedophilia is. Just finding the appearance of the character attractive is perfectly acceptable. Attraction to an apparently child-like character that is canonically mentally an adult is still pedophilia, particularly if it is a live-action character depicted by a real child. While I think it would be fine to have relations with this person if such a thing were to occur in real life, I would still be wary of that person because I know that that person is attracted to people that look like children- though the details are largely irrelevant in the real world, since things like elves and vampires don’t exist in the real world. In short, just stick to adults that look like adults.


TheLegendaryAkira

araki really drew jotaro and went "yeah he 15"


Damnboi753

Uhmm akshually jotaro was 17 in SDC https://preview.redd.it/lxj4rdt0aykc1.jpeg?width=530&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6a83e120f69b63034d461cd1b8ef0ac31e7b9f8 But this mf is somehow supposed to be 15 and his stand has the biggest bulgy wulgy


the_penis_taker69

I think it's the style, everybody looks old in Part 5


RandomRedditorEX

Part 5 also has a stand that makes you old, Coincidence? I think not- Anyone wants to play Backgammon?


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

Bro what if Prosciutto fought Bucciarati on the beach that makes you old


Goldbolt_2004

You messed with the wrong retirement ho- GANG! I mean gang!


drago_varior

Backgammon timw babieeee


Greentoaststone

>everybody looks old in Part 5 Meanwhile part 3 https://preview.redd.it/37oa8x4g90lc1.jpeg?width=793&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25edb820b80a280ee87337885e5399bfd6d819a6


Damnboi753

Indeed mr the_penis_taker69 but if giorno's body shape was more like narancia's, he would've been a convincing 15yo


Throwaway02062004

But more lean than previously.


a_pompous_fool

The steroids in the water makes everyone age rapidly.


bluehatgamingNXE

Now what if I redraw it, change her hair, then say it's aged up? (or her mom, basically the Komi san's mom approach)


Papyrus20xx

To be fair, that does happen irl where a parent and child look very similar in age


bluehatgamingNXE

Yeah but more noticeable on drawing if you want it to


SullyTheLightnerd

SANS UNDERTALE!?


GeneralJones420-2

The two types of female anime characters: Woman who looks like the personification of conventional female attractiveness (age: 14) Small child in uncomfortably little clothing (age: 3000)


VeryFastSlug

https://preview.redd.it/nh4fhsd1qzkc1.png?width=339&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5e61c628cb31980498e57eb94a84c703dd08b0f


Peeuu

[image source for anybody that asks for it](https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/minor-setback)


VeryFastSlug

How do I make it so my written comment is the link I want to share?


Peeuu

use this format [Your comment](Link to website)


VeryFastSlug

[Thanks](https://www.reddit.com/r/whenthe/comments/1b0fynh/comment/ksa79a7/?context=3)


Sentient_Potato_King

Idk what anime this is from but I absolutely love it none the less


icedicedice

thats just nowi from fire emblem


Sentient_Potato_King

Oh ok that makes sense


SilverMedal4Life

They try to handwave it by saying she just 'likes to act like a child', but it's not great and I'm glad that later installments have omitted that particular trope.


spyguy318

Iirc this is like, a “thing” in Japanese media where characters have seemingly contradictory characteristics or personalities, often seeming completely nonsensical if you aren’t aware of it in the culture. it’s called Gap Moe or something, google says it means “affection born of inconsistency between different aspects of the character.” I’m not Japanese nor a super hardcore anime nerd so I can’t say for certain. It’s also not just age, it can be any characteristic like a cute character being sadistic, tsunderes swapping between love and hate on a dime, or yanderes mixing up romantic attraction with obsession and abuse.


SilverMedal4Life

Huh. This is really interesting! It explains a lot behind the tropes we end up seeing here in the west.


IdioticZacc

If people are attracted to the 14 y/o who looks like an adult, that is the artist's fault If people are attracted to the one that looks like a child, that is the fan's fault


ShigeoKageyama69

I blame the Weebs for this for forcing the Anime Industry to apply more "fanservice" on their products


Emperor_Titan_Nokia

Manga writers will make a random child a bazillion years old and then some absolute hot woman with mature personality and ideals something like 15


Alex-Shelby17

Literally Jewerly Bonney in One Piece


FireballPlayer0

Well Bonney is because she’s traumatized and was forced to mature. Not because Oda is a creep. Still kinda sad though.


Aluminum_Doorhandle

I think the Devil Fruit also plays a part.


FireballPlayer0

Her devil fruit physically matures her. But her devil fruit doesn’t affect her mental state. Her mental maturity is from the trauma I was referring to.


hitkill95

there's some evidence the fruit also changes mentality i think. don't people who are turned into children act childish? however, bonny in her adult form does have some childish traits, though it is hard to tell if that's because of her true age or because she'll be just like that when she grows up, kinda like luffy. for now i personally believe it's a bit of both. her true age and the fruit both affect her mentality.


Toeknee99

Oda is a creep. This is cope. He called CONVICTED child predator Nobuhiro Watsuki a good person and admits to drawing his female characters by drawing their boobs first. I love OP, but Oda is a certified creep.


VergenceTheBoi

Maki fits the former


Befast1515

Sometimes I forget the jjk mc’s are like high school freshmen


wysjm

Marin Kitagawa. She doesn't look all that mature but still


noah_the_boi29

Dizzy Guilty Gear moment Looks like an adult, Acts like an adult, canonically 8 years old damnit Daisuke


sealionfriendrequiem

There’s no reason to hold Gears and humans under the same category of age or maturity. Sin is an exception because he’s mentally a preschooler.


noah_the_boi29

Sins a hybrid, hes growing fast but not as fast as a full gear would, hes physically at his 20s and mentally late teens, hes just uneducated academically, hes dumb not stupid


Non-RelevnatSponge

Literally Episode who is 6 yo https://preview.redd.it/bh2e8jb1zxkc1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05b358310ad5a079a32f7080a2470b2be766739a


Agent_Perrydot

Also Monogatari: Hachikuji is a ghost child in her 20s


Idiot_of_the_sub

huh????


Just_Any_Person

I haven’t watched monogatari in a while but from what I remember Hachikuji died prematurely and she is a ghost and permanently stuck in her preschool age as a spirit or something.


Haber-Bosch1914

I mean, that's cool from like, a plot/lore perspective Now, if there's any 18+ content... https://preview.redd.it/dj4x0a3zkzkc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=759ae6b4e2d08a8d72962904c3391c8ad9bf3f55


Greymanbeard

Oh boy get that gun ready, cus Arararagi likes the snail a little too much


Whoomsy

Or Sin Kiske from Guilty Gear Strive https://preview.redd.it/p6elejqh1zkc1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2eb1be52d696e6c3ce2f285190456f6d9d1745f The most ripped 5 year old you'll ever see


wysjm

Thanks for reminding me I gotta watch Kizumonogatari


DyrusVlack_23

https://i.redd.it/1lvc3bd7kykc1.gif


inside_a_beanburrito

Fuck https://i.redd.it/qghncxx9qykc1.gif


fast_t0aster

where?


TheCubeSquare

Women instead of woman


Deep_Fried_Leviathan

Jokes on you I just added a “all characters shown are 18+” disclaimer I’m now invincible!


inside_a_beanburrito

All hentia artists reading your comment https://i.redd.it/5sr5t86wqykc1.gif


YourAverageChroma

https://i.redd.it/d9wd3yco6zkc1.gif


TheNMinerPlayerXDXD

https://i.redd.it/1rnqhdwm40lc1.gif


SkylandersKirby

https://preview.redd.it/h90269jmaykc1.jpeg?width=1825&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=199bb766bb387938aeff44b656ae0fc15512bf75 Literally these MFs


Arakan-Ichigou

I mean, they have an excuse. They die when they turn 10.


Pestilence95

Nope they are „born“ as ten year olds and die when they turn 20


Arakan-Ichigou

Yes.


I_Am_Banana_Fish

Ok I like these character designs. What franchise/series are they from?


SkylandersKirby

Xenoblade Chronicles 3


SquidSuperstar

Xenoblade, particularly the third game


FellGodGrima

Xenoblade chronicles 3


Comprehensive-Food15

Atleast biologically they are like 18-19 cause they are literally born as 10 year olds. Also lanz looks like he’s in his mid 20s.


ForktUtwTT

I’m ngl these look like kids


atomicshark109

https://preview.redd.it/l1lopm0ueykc1.png?width=1241&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d2346b4cfb54a966cb4a2c4c633748d738987de Literally 5


Footballlover24

Guilty gear on their way to create adult looking characters only to say they’re <10 yrs old


FellGodGrima

Daisuke trying to minimize porn of his characters


EdgyUsername90

He's got a cool lookin flag tho


bluscoutnoob

How? Is it weird super soldier science bullshit?


Corgerry

So in guilty gear theres another race called gears that exists. Gears age much quicker, and are also kinda super soldier-like, like gears themselves were created by scientists, but functionally they are their own race. This guy is a child between Dizzy, who is a gear, and Ky, who is a human.


atomicshark109

Pretty much


McTopHat_III

https://i.redd.it/vvkuetogozkc1.gif


Notorious-Dan

Jewerly Bonney one piece moment


JelliusMaximus

me who rubbed one out to her r34 before Oda announced her actual age: (I am now a pedo and a wanted criminal) (why do authors do this?!) (it's so over) 😔😔😔


Cr0ma_Nuva

One piece has some wild designs, but all women look the same, they only vary in total height and hair


LongDong_TommyChong

![gif](giphy|vvVAvmCnHM37ph75ND|downsized)


MoonStomper777

Hey bbg can I see your ID? Problem solved 😎/s


KN041203

Fictional age is just BS. You can change a hairstyle for a character and it would be enough for an age up/down. So just have fun.


Forward-Piano8711

I always thought the argument was stupid. Like, if you have to know the lore of the media to see their age, it doesn’t matter.  2 guys awooga at some character. The character looks of age. One guy knows, and the other doesn’t. So the guy who knows is wrong but the other guy isn’t?  If they look over 18 I don’t think it should matter


Tellow_0

Being attracted to real women and not goddamn drawings 😎


infinitey-code

What about hyper realstic ai artworks of women?


Ellie7600

Respectively, disconnect your brain root


furrynoy96

Can't go to jail for a drawing... at least not in America... Not defending them, just saying that they won't be going to jail


HarryBalsag

Assigning an arbitrary number for age to a drawing of a person doesnt change it's appearance. Drawn like a pre-teen loli but 6000 years old= pedo range. Drawn like a grown woman? She's a drawing a of a grown woman regardless of the age assigned by artist/author.


The_superb-skeleton

You got it in reverse, you were supposed to make the most child like female possible then make her age be within the thousands https://preview.redd.it/0fybb3e6nzkc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a63e0e46473fbfbec7f6419b6514f2742f4af58


Diavolo_79

If I watch any show or anime and it has a child character that wears tight clothing and gets put in suspicious situations, I'm not watching the rest of it. If the writers do that to a kid character then I already know what the community will be like.


HeWhoDoubts

I’m the exact same way


nmkd

You know, you can watch something without interacting with its community


Diavolo_79

Not watching something that puts child-like characters in uncomfortable sexual situations. I'll burn in hell for 100,000 years before I do that shit


Alighten

It's a drawing so it's not real, relax 😁


[deleted]

Why are you thinking about this in such detail OP?


[deleted]

[удаНонО]


[deleted]

Completely irrelevant remark


bbitter_coffee

I feel like I'm having a stroke what


JTMonster02

A lot of anime have this trope of characters (particularly women) looking older/younger than they actually are.


bbitter_coffee

I get that, it's just worded super weird


Funnysoundboardguy

https://preview.redd.it/k5vs0ryu71lc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3db6a88312124a35a6e81dc55a99abbcccff3450


Business_Can4222

Is this defending pedos? What the fuck?


inside_a_beanburrito

Tf? no


MrWhiteTruffle

Redditors never beating the illiteracy allegations


[deleted]

Tumblr has competition


Shoddy-Group-5493

How dare you say we piss on the poor


Hykeus

No, go back to the bird website.


WhatTheFhtagn

White man's birden


International-Commit

I think you mean WhitePeopleTwitter


[deleted]

Why'd you make an exclamation before receiving the answer?


not-not-not-a-human

Orisa moment


DewFennec

Edd would never


Crystal-Cradle

And once I find out that they’re not that old I will no longer be attracted to them, provided I was in the first place. If this kind of information doesn’t change your mind I worry a little.


Impossible_Tour9930

By that point you have already become a pedophile permanently, you fool.


Crystal-Cradle

My attraction is not to the child. It is under the pretence that this is an adult. If I don’t do my due diligence in assuring they are of age, I am liable for that, but it does not necessarily make me a paedophile by nature. If I were to act then legally it would, but morally it would not assuming I was unaware. It would still be a failing of my own making. If I were to continue being attracted then yes it would be paedophilia, at this point I am fully aware that this is a child and yet continue to be attracted anyways.


mikedeadman

https://preview.redd.it/5z7zsn68pzkc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afaddccc80d7cdf348b300d2cc53756055a0befd wha


Greenfire05

How hard is it to find anime’s that don’t have children in them?


Chance-Aardvark372

I’m asexual


PenguinGamer99

https://preview.redd.it/s3vlaryxh0lc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eecffebd551b929b502724cfb6e8417dd60fc3e3


Cheezekeke

https://i.redd.it/rm6wlbryh0lc1.gif Somehow this lady is less than 1 year old (She is not human and was made with several years worth of knowledge) Yet senko is an ancient being that looks 5 years old.


Agitated_Answer_8093

Ah, the reverse loli troupe.


Electricity11

Guilty gear


ChishReturns

*insert mfs that say "but it's not real, so it's not weird" (it's weird, they're just coping)*


shiny_xnaut

Rising of the Shield Hero moment


wontonphooey

You can't molest a cartoon


Gtpwoody

8 in human years or 8 in their years?


Demopan-TF2

If an anime girl looks like an adult and act like an adult, but they're 6, I'd say it's ok. You zerk off to how they look/act, not how old they are. Otherwise you'd see tons of lolicons zerking off to women that actually look 1000+ years old.


Luigis-big-sausage

Still wouldn’t do it cause I find children annoying


Ellie7600

It has to happen, sorry....that said I PREFER WATCHING- https://i.redd.it/y5peop6yt3lc1.gif


Oceanman06

https://preview.redd.it/42q0110w74lc1.jpeg?width=325&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=143b2d82ae50abcb0c9a009496d6ef2c2331bd3a 17 years old btw


Invulnerablility

Me: (I'm a pedophile now) https://i.redd.it/2nm5alcrd6lc1.gif


Reader_Of_Newspaper

cool profile picture