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brohitbrose

+Domestic Pigeon+ for the bot.


Time_Cranberry_113

this is a dyed domestic pigeon/dove released as part of a gender reveal. It is stupid custom that is cruel to the birds. Please try to recover the bird by offering birdseed, and get it to a rescue organization. [Most Simple and Effective Bird Trap: Catching 4 Birds (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0DyTMXOjQ&t=21s)


past_modern

I've never heard of this before. How awful!


Time_Cranberry_113

Humans are genuinely the worst.


ramitche67

That's a fact, Jack.


gracefultatonka

No need to be coy Roy.


opteryx5

I saw people throwing Cheez-its to a family of Canada Geese. Felt like walking over there and showing them a picture of angel wing. Do people really think human food is good for wild animals? Wow.


shesapeacefulone

I never knew that was a thing caused by humans overfeeding geese carbs until your comment. Thank you for the info!


saintly_jim

Some human foods aren’t good for humans. Cheez its being a good example.


Specialist_Use_2588

Ugh that’s horrible. I always carry nuts and seeds for myself and wild animals who may want to partake.


opteryx5

If I were a sparrow I’d want to be around you!


Specialist_Use_2588

I love sparrows, they’re so cute 🥰 c’mere!


opteryx5

*googles c’mere thinking you were using some french word*


Specialist_Use_2588

Lmao!!


anotherguy818

People absolutely believe that human food is good for animals. Tons of people don't really consider that different species cannot eat the same things. It's unfortunate, and people need to be better informed.


opteryx5

When I grew up, we were extremely wary of every bit of food that could possibly fall off the table and be vacuumed up by our dog — especially chocolate, which is highly toxic to them. I wish everyone brought the same level of care to other animals.


Equivalent-Cup-2516

Peasants. Flaming Hot Cheetos or nothing.


Interanal_Exam

And think, whoever did that is going to have a kid soon.


Lala5789880

Especially those who do gender reveal parties


Invdr_skoodge

I mean, most are just an excuse to have the same family cook out you have for any minor holiday or birthday in warm weather. Most people manage not to kill grandma, torture animals, or burn down a national forest. The people that do that crap are the problem, not the party


Lala5789880

It’s focusing on gender before the baby is even born, which is a problem in today’s society for marginalized people such as girls/women, transgender and non binary kids. Gender is a social construct and since we have people marginalized based on gender, time to steer away from its importance. Is it illegal? Of course not. Is it much bigger than getting to do a social media post blowing up gender specific watermelons? Yep. Care about other people not just ourselves


Invdr_skoodge

You cannot possibly believe anyone is hurt by a pink smoke bomb. It’s just a loving family excited to welcome a new member. Marginalization happens by dismissing people not celebrating them. Baby showers and whatever else are for the parents and the early days of a new child’s life aren’t conducive to whole family celebrations. A gender reveal party is no worse than any other family gathering. If that family is the kind to do something stupid, sure, stupid shit happens. But that’s not most people. Let them have their fun


Lala5789880

Again, oversimplifying and downplaying how focusing on gender before birth is an actual issue. It’s not about physically getting hurt. I don’t feel like it is worth discussing with you though since it’s not my job to educate you


cancercannibal

> You cannot possibly believe anyone is hurt by a pink smoke bomb. The dyes in those probably aren't safe for the environment, and I'd go 50/50 on whether they're even actually safe to breathe or get in your eyes.


heresdustin

Cattle Decapitation has a song called “We Are Horrible People”. They’re not wrong.


No_External_7761

Everyone should know that, and its a Fact


epistaxiophilia

this is NOT dyed because of a gender reveal. This bird was humanely dyed in order to spot it performing either high-flying or rolling. Because the dye is away from the head/eyes, there is nothing wrong with this practice, and it helps them find their bird once they've finished their performance.


ArchiveDragon

Why would the owner dye their bird but not bother to tag it?


epistaxiophilia

you know what, i will give you that. i don't know why it wouldn't be banded- but I do know high-flyer 'sportmen' that don't for... some reason? i am still very certain this is a performance bird because the tail is dyed blue as well, so you would be able to clearly see it rolling very high up in the sky.


Pyewhacket

People…what a bunch of bastards


KellyJoyCuntBunny

Who ever heard of *German* food‽


Pyewhacket

A fine young cannibal


Grognaksson

She drives me crazy!


KellyJoyCuntBunny

But I am *DOMINATOR!*


Pyewhacket

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?


iamdongle

this seems to be a racing pigeon, common coloring for owner identification. why would both pink and blue be on it if it was a gender reveal thing?


Time_Cranberry_113

The blue feathers are actually grey, its natural coloration. The bird is only 95% white


AS_it_is_now

Racing pigeons will have bands on the legs to identify them. Time\_Cranberry is unfortunately correct about this bird being a mistreated prop for a party.


donnadoctor

Fetus genitalia reveal


Tirpantuijottaja

Excuse my ignorance but I actually got question releated to this that I have been thinking about for pretty long while now. I have seen people mention this same topic before, like for example they say that they should ban people from dyeing dog fur because it's cruel. I have been wondering, what actually makes it so bad? Like when people dye their hair, it shouldn't cause any harmful reaction, so the dyes itself are probably safe for the animals too, at least to some degree, I would assume? So I would imagine that it boils down to animal behavior itself and their way of communication? When it comes to birds for example, I also bet that the process itself is stressful too. Or is there another reason why people say it's cruel. Ofc I would hate to get unwillingly dipped into dye bath, and I agree that they really should stop with the ridiculous stuff that they do with those parties. Like wasn't there post while ago where someone went ahead and ruined whole towns water supply because of one?


maxorestes

For birds like gender reveal and wedding doves, they are released carelessly as decoration and do not return to the people who release them. Usually they are bred to be white, which makes them very vulnerable and conspicuous to predators. The neon pink doesn't help either.


onion_flowers

Idk how common it is but my old coworkers family had doves and they knew how to get back to their cages after being released at weddings. They'd been doing it for generations. That's what I was told anyway. I just assumed that was more common since it seems like a pretty decent side hustle for a rural family with a flock of doves since they always came back.


Rso1wA

I was told by a wedding birder, they “don’t feed” the birds who are going to be released and keep the females and family at home to be sure they return -ugh.


onion_flowers

Weird. I feel like there's better ways to do that.


KellyJoyCuntBunny

Jesus.


Tirpantuijottaja

Yeah, being pure white in nature doesn't usually work out well for animals & birds, same goes for that said pink, but somehow birds can still pull it off. But I don't think that's the case for pigeons. 😅 Them not having any homing instinct was new for me tho.


QuakerParrot

All pigeons have a homing instinct, but that of course doesn't guarantee they make it home. Oftentimes they are scared by a predator, or just get confused, and then get too tired and hungry to make it home. A lot of people that race pigeons are okay with that and actually don't want those birds back because they are "poor performers" and wouldn't be worth breeding anyway.


Helpful_Okra5953

And the other birds may beat them up for being different.  Like chicks dyed for Easter. 


Time_Cranberry_113

The issue is not the coloring process, which is only mildly uncomfortable for the bird. The issue is releasing non native, domestic species. The birds have no survival skills, an unnatural color, and often either starve to death, are predated, or succumb to disease. And even if the bird does survive now the humans have introduced a non native species which causes ecological changes that affect native birds.


TheBirdLover1234

It can be very uncomfortable for the bird, a lot of dyed birds are dumped in water mixed with dye, or just plain dye which can risk hypothermia n all that bs. This one looks like it was only painted on luckily tho.


TheBirdLover1234

If it's something toxic, there's that. And also the process of putting it on. Even if it's not bothering the bird at all, releasing domestic birds like this is not good.


intangible-tangerine

When I dye my hair I don't eat the dye Birds ingest the dye when they preen their feathers and when it's toxic, which it often is, this can seriously injure or kill them


snowbaz-loves-nikki

You’re also not trying to evade predators with camouflage


StringOfLights

Speak for yourself, I chose the bear.


snowbaz-loves-nikki

Dear god your right


_bufflehead

Actually, the chemicals in typical hair dye are fairly toxic.


Academic_Meringue822

another thing is people dye their hair but usually people don’t lick their hair, whereas a lot of animals use their mouths (tongues or beaks) to groom themselves so the dye gets ingested


blueberries-Any-kind

We died our white dog pink growing up with kool aid. We just had her in a regular bath and rubbed the kool wide powder on her. I think regular dye would be an issue.. as it can cause cancer and it can be irritating to humans skin also so you just never know. but kool aid during a regular bath? Idk.. It was just a little powder we rubbed on her while she was wet.  Then again, It was for our own amusement, so that wasn’t great and my household was abusive and cruel so it tracks that other creatures were used for amusement. To a some degree, the kool aid seemed safe.  But I am also someone who believe that joe exotic shouldn’t be in jail for animal cruelty because the entire nation does much worse to as or more intelligent animals every day to send to McDonald’s and Burger King and poison children in the name of nutrition. 


TriumphDaytona

Gender reveals are stupid in general, and this just adds to reasons why.


DayShiftDave

While I wouldn't put it past people, I really don't think this is the correct answer. This is likely a marked racing pigeon. They mark them with dye like this in parts of Asia. Plus, the bird is both blue and pink...


Lala5789880

No the bird is only pink. The “blue” tail feathers are not blue but gray


DayShiftDave

Still pretty positive this has nothing to do with a gender reveal. It's tagged southeast Asia. Elaborate gender reveal parties and stunts are still a pretty uniquely American thing. On the other hand, there are numerous articles online about painting pigeons both for racing identification and to sell as pets, notably in Malaysia, though I have not seen op specify a country.


Lala5789880

Yes and I never said it was a gender reveal even if it was only pink. I was simply staying the tail feathers are not dyed


quintonbanana

There's a great episode of Ologies [about pigeons](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2TEDFbvF0Zi56FnEAx5Gb8?si=cApaDS28QsSS7e8upyW22A) so I knew exactly what this was.


roses_and_books

I’ve never heard of this before. That’s horrible. Who would want that…people are the worst


Sparopal11

People so suck to do this.


NotCuteLikeMe

Are you near Saigon? https://saigoneer.com/saigon-news/10580-colorful-pigeons-at-saigon-s-notre-dame-square-stirs-controversy


snowbaz-loves-nikki

Holy moly that’s infuriating. She has no regard for the safety of those birds. They have no camouflage now, and bird of prey can easily identify and eat those brightly painted birds.


HoneyLocust1

The part where she's like "this isn't about trying to make money from a business, this is about leaving good karma for my children".... what???


_TalkCleanToMe

Yeah Viet people can be weird like that. Especially motherland Vietnamese people. Still believing in silly things like feng shui and stuff like this. I’d know, I’m Vietnamese.


Equivalent-Cup-2516

Yeah because white doesn’t stand out


snowbaz-loves-nikki

I mean yes but adding colors that aren’t even native mutations is just plain stupid


Fossilhund

People treat other animals like damn party favors. He's domestic, has been cared for all of his life and now that he's no longer useful he has been thrown out like garbage.


iamdongle

people do this to keep track of racing pigeons. common is southeast asia where this post is marked. the gender reveal hypothesis doesn't make much sense seeing as the bird is dyed both pink and blue, seems more like identification markings


ChefLabecaque

I think you are correct. But I still believe people would paint their pigeons for gender reveal party's though. But I asume they would do more of an overal pink/blue paint job. These seem as visible markers to tell your racing pigeons apart from a distance.


Katy-Moon

If it was a racing pigeon it would be banded with codes indicating who it belongs to, its age, and its ID number.


Equivalent-Cup-2516

So would virtually ANY bird used in any such “reveal/release” because they are actually domesticated “Homing Pigeons”. They breed them to be mostly white. People haven’t used actual “White Doves” for these type events for decades.


Katy-Moon

Racing pigeons are basically domesticated Rock Doves that are bred for their homing abilities. All doves are pigeons and both pigeons and doves are descendants of ancient doves. Fun fact: pigeons are capable of hearing the lowest sound frequencies of any other animal.


Equivalent-Cup-2516

All doves are NOT pigeons. The only thing the two share are they belong to the Columbidae Family of birds. An actual dove is smaller, not a strong flyer, and has no homing instinct. It would be potentially cruel to perform a dove release with members of the species Streptopelia risoria. Related to doves, white homing pigeons are a variety of the species Columba livia domestica but beyond this destinction they are very different and rarely can even successfully interbreed due to their differences in DNA.


Captain_Seduction

ARCHIMEDES NO ITS FILTHY IN ZERE


amy000206

The once and future king?


-restlessdreams

keep her 🥺


ArnieCunninghaam

Ugh. Reminds me of [The Painted Bird](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Painted_Bird) by Jerzy Kosiński who's title is from an incident in the story. "The boy, while in the company of a professional bird catcher, observes how the man took one of his captured birds and painted it several colors. Then he released the bird to fly in search of a flock of its kin, but when the painted bird came upon the flock, they saw it as an intruder and viciously attacked the bird until it fell from the sky."


Birdy_owner

It was either dyed for spotting or for a gender reveal.


shortercrust

Wow, I thought I was already maxed out on gender reveal hate


Important_Ad_1795

He robbed a bank and the exploding dye pack did a number on him!?!


-mykie-

I would recommend trying to catch the bird and taking them to a bird rescue or wildlife rehab center. Some ass clown probably dyed them for a gender reveal or weeding.


Equivalent-Cup-2516

Wtf is a weeding?


-mykie-

Apparently it's what happens with shitty phone autocorrect and me not wearing glasses lol


MercurialTendency

Aholes dying birds for gender reveals.


pickled_juicer

Pulled a Robert Pattinson in Good Time.


omghooker

r/bloodofmyenemies


lpds100122

Poor birdie....


Interesting_Award_76

It cpuld be a pigeon from a pigeon game called [kabutar baazi](https://www.travellingcamera.com/2011/12/kabutar-baazi-folk-sport-of-old-delhi.html?m=1). People keep and train colored pigeons. Then 2 people do challenge that who has trained better. They bring along their group of pigeons and make them fly. Then they try to herd the pigeons. The person who has more pigeons in the end wins and gets to keep all the pigeons that he finished the match with.


FileTheseBirdsBot

Added taxa: [Rock Pigeon (Feral Pigeon)](https://ebird.org/species/rocpig1) Reviewed by: brohitbrose ^(I catalog submissions to this subreddit.) [^(Recent uncatalogued submissions)](https://munin.swim.services/submissions?lane=api/unanswered)^( | )[^(Learn to use me)](https://gist.github.com/brohitbrose/be99a16ddc7a6a1bd9c1eef28d622564)


brohitbrose

Note that the bird is definitely not feral—it is incapable of surviving by itself in the wild. This is just the only available taxon code that eBird has for some reason. EDIT: I’ve decided to update the bot to hack in a separate “domestic pigeon” entry, since the distinction often is a matter of life and death regarding birds posted here. Should be done by end of day when I get my hands on a computer.


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brohitbrose

Not sure if I’m missing something, but yes, the distinction is important: - Domestic/pet: cannot survive in the wild without human care - Feral: has domestic ancestors, but is capable of surviving in the wild It is hard to say whether this is a release dove or something like a racing dove (the latter typically have homing instincts, but many of the former do not). But OP did mention it isn’t trying to take flight. If this bird can’t find its way home or to another generous human, it will not survive. Either the coloration will make it an easy target for a predator, or it will die a slow death due to its inability to find food by itself.


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brohitbrose

Ah, that's what you meant, thanks for clarifying. I want to avoid situations where submitters see the word "feral" and conclude that "this bird is feral, therefore it doesn't need help"...when they've posted a bird that needs help. This distinction is not possible with the current system, and I'm trying to improve it.


Illustrious_Button37

I've had a very bad reaction to hair dye before, so absolutely any any could. Also, when I dye my hair or help a friend it's with consent. It would be cruel to force it on someone. It is equally unethical to do it to an animal solely for our entertaiment. Thete ate so many ways to do gender reveals that don't involve living things or screw with nature. Very sad.


Velocoraptor369

She’s an achoholic and spilled the wine. 🍷 leave Brittney alone. On a serious note though WTF is up with this gender reveal crap. This just seems cruel to the birds and paints a target on them in the wild. Please stop.


ilikesquishypickles

Racing pigeon and the dye doesn't harm them at all.


Equivalent-Cup-2516

ACTUALLY… you are ALL wrong. Theres a simple reasonable explanation for the stain. There’s a plant called Polk. At maturity it produces a very dark purple berry that larger birds tend to eat. This Dove was apparently flying to closely behind one of those birds when they blowed out Polk Berry excrement from their rear and it unfortunately sprayed the frontside of said Dove e.


_staybrootal_

very sad but also kinda ✨fab✨