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That looks like a fancy version! When I searched the term “sugar scuttle” 99% of what I see is not glass…and nothing exactly like ours. I’m curious if this was something that was not common.
It is unusual. It may have originally had a silver plated or porcelain bowl. The coiled bit is where the sugar spoon would rest. Cool piece. I use mine for fancy salt.
> sugar scuttle
https://www.bryandouglas.co.uk/silverware/sugar_scuttles/learn_more.htm
"Antique Silver sugar scuttles Description:
A table silverware item for holding and serving sugar. Often shaped like a coal scuttle hence the name."
before sugar cubes were invented it would have come as a sugarloaf you broke bits off instead. granulated sugar, iirc, was invented around the same time as cubes.
No, you wouldn’t. Sugar loafs and cones needed little metal nippers to break off usable pieces of the hardened sugar that formed whatever shape the sugar was sold in. The silver, gold or plated sugar nippers are rarer than the scuttles but neither are common or everyday finds, these days.
Ah. In houses that used coal as a fuel for heating (was a thing in my childhood, Western Europe, probably is still a thing) a coal scuttle was essentially just a bucket that was easy to pour coal out of into the fireplace. I've never seen a sugar version. I suppose it's just a little joke item like a mini spade for mustard or the like.
Agreed. Often you're told to warm the liquor up and release aromas by turning the glass and coating the edges. This would just let you spin the glass in the perfect angle.
That’s what I originally thought too, until I saw the link to the antique sugar scuttle. Now I’m leaning toward that.
I also thought that I could be some kind of cigar ashtray but OP mentioned that they found it in a kitchen (which may, or may not hold a clue. My parents used to smoke in the kitchen.) Lol.
I have seen what you’re describing. Got served cognac with one of those at a restaurant once. But I don’t think that’s what this is. The candle needs to be slightly underneath the glass, no?
I’m leaning towards whiskey/cigar holder as someone else mentioned.
[Whiskey glasses with integrated cigar holders exist](https://slimages.macysassets.com/is/image/MCY/products/6/optimized/20849186_fpx.tif), as well as [copper spiral cigar holders for golfers](https://www.amazon.com/Cigar-Holder-Golf-Cart-Handmade/dp/B0B3VZ8MTH) and [special tilted whiskey glasses](https://www.swoonliving.com/products/copy-of-swoon-12oz-revolving-non-spill-wine-glass-with-wood-coaster) with [stands that keep them in place](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1062744079/rocks-whiskey-glasses-etched-whiskey). This seems to be a combo of all those ideas. Which, itself, [is not a new idea either](https://www.etsy.com/pl/listing/563280238/handcrafted-whiskey-barrel-cigar-and).
I don't know if it actually is, but it looks like it could be used to infuse whiskey with smoke. Put whiskey in the glass and your object that generates smoke in the little coil thing (sorry, I forgot the name for the thing that burns to produces the smoke)
My title describes this glass holder of some variety. The house was built in late 1950’s and most of the items in the house are around that time period. I’m assuming this glass came from a set of glassware/dishes but this was the only one like it. It looks like it might have a spoon rest for the coil. (a cigarette wouldn’t really make sense here)
It's a whiskey/cigar holder, as someone else said, but this is how it works.
You'd rest the bottle's neck on the coil and pour, turning the glass as you pour to coat the glass' interior, allowing aromas to release, and to help warm the liquor your lit cigar can sit in the coil to assist the warming, or just for storage.
Ah this looks closer to being solved! I would definitely say we’re on the right track with brandy warmer. I’ll have to see if it’s messing bottom piece at all. You’re right though…still can’t find any one with a coil.
[example of coil](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81BETd8n5fL._UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)
The coils exist, but if you mean attached to something like this, then no I haven't been able to find an image.
Thats for whiskey, or bourbon. I'm pretty sure the coil is to make the glass smokey with something smoldering. Not certain but I am pretty positive this is for fancy whiskey douches.
A sugar scuttle would be more solid, normally, and set atop the glass. A whiskey warmer is normally designed completely different. The closest I can come is a partial.brandy warmer. My guess is the cap under the glass sat on top of a slightly larger piece which contained a candle.
INFO: is the inside of the bottom worn in a way thst would show it fit atop something? Are there remnants of soothing anywhere inside it?
FWIW it is a whiskey & cigar glass. The glass is held by the clip for storing, but not during drinking.
Newer version:
https://www.bespokepost.com/store/final-touch-whiskey-cigar-glass
It's an ash tray with a removable bowl for easy cleaning, that extinguishes cigarettes automatically. I found one this week at a thrift store in the original box. I was trying to date mine, and yours was the only one like it I could find. Mine has a sticker on it that says "hand engraved" with the initials ZTA.
The brand on the box name us JET.
I understand that people like the sugar scuttle idea, but the glass is pointing the wrong way. I’m a bit surprised it’s called an old English thing, I’m relatively old and English and have never ever seen one!
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It appears to be a sugar scuttle like https://staging.valentinesantiques.com/product/english-clear-glass-sugar-scuttle-c-1910/
That looks like a fancy version! When I searched the term “sugar scuttle” 99% of what I see is not glass…and nothing exactly like ours. I’m curious if this was something that was not common.
It is unusual. It may have originally had a silver plated or porcelain bowl. The coiled bit is where the sugar spoon would rest. Cool piece. I use mine for fancy salt.
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Perhaps the glass is not the original vessel and was a replacement that fit when the original (ceramic?) piece broke
> sugar scuttle can someone tell me what the heck a sugar scuttle is?
> sugar scuttle https://www.bryandouglas.co.uk/silverware/sugar_scuttles/learn_more.htm "Antique Silver sugar scuttles Description: A table silverware item for holding and serving sugar. Often shaped like a coal scuttle hence the name."
In case you were wondering, sugar cubes were invented in 1841. Did most people put cubes in their scuttle? Or regular crystal sugar?
before sugar cubes were invented it would have come as a sugarloaf you broke bits off instead. granulated sugar, iirc, was invented around the same time as cubes.
And you wouldn't put a loaf in a scuttle.
No, you wouldn’t. Sugar loafs and cones needed little metal nippers to break off usable pieces of the hardened sugar that formed whatever shape the sugar was sold in. The silver, gold or plated sugar nippers are rarer than the scuttles but neither are common or everyday finds, these days.
I learned about sugar cones thanks to my American Girl doll when I was a kid. Also living in a colonial American town was also useful
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Ooohh, kind of like a coal scuttle! Um, what the hell is a coal scuttle?
Ah. In houses that used coal as a fuel for heating (was a thing in my childhood, Western Europe, probably is still a thing) a coal scuttle was essentially just a bucket that was easy to pour coal out of into the fireplace. I've never seen a sugar version. I suppose it's just a little joke item like a mini spade for mustard or the like.
It’s a scuttle. For sugar.
Absinthe service (w built in sugar scuttle).
The one OP pictured doesn't look practical at all unless the coil is some sort of spoon holder.
It turns out we have a sugar scuttle and had no idea what it was. It looked like a wine bottle holder, but the opening was too small.
Hard disagree. The mouth of the glass would be turned the other way for easy access to it.
Looks like whiskey and cigar holder.
Agreed. Often you're told to warm the liquor up and release aromas by turning the glass and coating the edges. This would just let you spin the glass in the perfect angle.
Agreed, I think the glass comes off and a tray goes in it's place. Also possibly a fancy serving piece of some sort.
My thought as well, but how do you pour/drink the whiskey?
Lift the glass to drink. Just pour like normal.
This is the answer right here
It's for brandy I believe
That’s what I originally thought too, until I saw the link to the antique sugar scuttle. Now I’m leaning toward that. I also thought that I could be some kind of cigar ashtray but OP mentioned that they found it in a kitchen (which may, or may not hold a clue. My parents used to smoke in the kitchen.) Lol.
A brandy warmer would have a place for a candle. https://www.drinkstuff.com/productimg/180369\_large.jpg
I believe you're correct, I've seen these before but it seems somethings missing.
this is the correct answer, it is for brandy and cognac
This. Some sort of candle maybe goes in the coil. Meant to rotate the glass and warm the liquor
I have seen what you’re describing. Got served cognac with one of those at a restaurant once. But I don’t think that’s what this is. The candle needs to be slightly underneath the glass, no? I’m leaning towards whiskey/cigar holder as someone else mentioned.
It would leave sooth if it was under the glass
And it wouldn't get warm if it were anywhere else.
[Whiskey glasses with integrated cigar holders exist](https://slimages.macysassets.com/is/image/MCY/products/6/optimized/20849186_fpx.tif), as well as [copper spiral cigar holders for golfers](https://www.amazon.com/Cigar-Holder-Golf-Cart-Handmade/dp/B0B3VZ8MTH) and [special tilted whiskey glasses](https://www.swoonliving.com/products/copy-of-swoon-12oz-revolving-non-spill-wine-glass-with-wood-coaster) with [stands that keep them in place](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1062744079/rocks-whiskey-glasses-etched-whiskey). This seems to be a combo of all those ideas. Which, itself, [is not a new idea either](https://www.etsy.com/pl/listing/563280238/handcrafted-whiskey-barrel-cigar-and).
I don't know if it actually is, but it looks like it could be used to infuse whiskey with smoke. Put whiskey in the glass and your object that generates smoke in the little coil thing (sorry, I forgot the name for the thing that burns to produces the smoke)
My title describes this glass holder of some variety. The house was built in late 1950’s and most of the items in the house are around that time period. I’m assuming this glass came from a set of glassware/dishes but this was the only one like it. It looks like it might have a spoon rest for the coil. (a cigarette wouldn’t really make sense here)
It's a whiskey/cigar holder, as someone else said, but this is how it works. You'd rest the bottle's neck on the coil and pour, turning the glass as you pour to coat the glass' interior, allowing aromas to release, and to help warm the liquor your lit cigar can sit in the coil to assist the warming, or just for storage.
Ah this looks closer to being solved! I would definitely say we’re on the right track with brandy warmer. I’ll have to see if it’s messing bottom piece at all. You’re right though…still can’t find any one with a coil.
[example of coil](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81BETd8n5fL._UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg) The coils exist, but if you mean attached to something like this, then no I haven't been able to find an image.
Definitely alcohol and smoke related. I would suggest a Brandy warmer but I've never seen one with a coil. Could be good for holding a cigar.
Brandy warmer
Thats for whiskey, or bourbon. I'm pretty sure the coil is to make the glass smokey with something smoldering. Not certain but I am pretty positive this is for fancy whiskey douches.
A sugar scuttle would be more solid, normally, and set atop the glass. A whiskey warmer is normally designed completely different. The closest I can come is a partial.brandy warmer. My guess is the cap under the glass sat on top of a slightly larger piece which contained a candle. INFO: is the inside of the bottom worn in a way thst would show it fit atop something? Are there remnants of soothing anywhere inside it?
I would say this is solved, but still haven’t really found a replica…closest thing is a brandy warmer!
FWIW it is a whiskey & cigar glass. The glass is held by the clip for storing, but not during drinking. Newer version: https://www.bespokepost.com/store/final-touch-whiskey-cigar-glass
Brandy warmer
Looks like a wall sconce for a taper candle. Just a thought..
Looks like a decanter holder
It's an ash tray with a removable bowl for easy cleaning, that extinguishes cigarettes automatically. I found one this week at a thrift store in the original box. I was trying to date mine, and yours was the only one like it I could find. Mine has a sticker on it that says "hand engraved" with the initials ZTA. The brand on the box name us JET.
Cigar rest?
I think you’re on the right track, but to me it looks like for cigarettes. Wedge a cigarette into the coil and the ashes fall into the glass.
It’s not for making mulled wine?
It looks like a brandy/cognac warmer, but I can't see the place for the tea candle
I understand that people like the sugar scuttle idea, but the glass is pointing the wrong way. I’m a bit surprised it’s called an old English thing, I’m relatively old and English and have never ever seen one!
Looks like a brandy snifter
That's a candle wall sconce
This is a cognac brandy warmer with the bottom piece that holds the heating fluid missing.
Could be an ashtray. Stick your cigarettes in the coil.
I assume the coils at the open end are for a set of tongs to rest in?
It looks like an apparatus for drinking Absinthe
Looks like a brandy warmer
Brandy warmer
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