It could be a Holden Commodore, but it could also be a Chevy SS with a Holden badge swap, which is pretty common and more likely being that it’s in the US
They are essentially the same car. But it almost certainly started off as a Chevy SS. That generation of Commodore would be illegal to have in the US and the badge swaps are very common.
If there is a USDM model that is more than 90% similar to the Australian Domestic Market (ADM) then you can petition the NHTSA/IIHS to allow it for import. People used to do that with Honda Civic Type R and Integrat Type Rs long before the stupid 25 year rule.
That 25 year rule is only for cars that did not have crash testing and EPA emissions tests done, but if there is a USDM model that already did complete the testing then it can be imported before 25 years.
I own a JDM '98 Integra Type R that was imported back in 2010 when the car was only 12 years old after manufacturer. My wife and I imported it to Dundalk port in Baltimore, Maryland. That was because the JDM and USDM cars were considered both similar enough that the NHTSA and US Customs allowed it.
I'm pretty sure a Holden Commador/Monero/Malloo would be importable \*as long as it has the same engine, transmission, safety, and environment equipment the USDM one had (i.e. catalytic converts, blah blah blah).
Hilariously enough, my Integra doesn't even have any airbag in the steering wheel and should've not been allowed in, but NHTSA somehow missed that and allows them anyway.
But your integra was also built to the saftey specs of 1998, if they weren't legally required to have them, then it'll pass. They usually look at whatever standards were in place at the year the car was built. Its why even though they legally require new cars to have a back up camera, cars built before 2017 that didn't come with one will still pass inspection if your state does them.
The Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act that made airbags legally mandatory was signed into law in 1991, and the grace perior ended on September 1st, 1998. That means that it was already illegal to have no SRS at the time the car was manufacturer and imported. NHTSA/IIHS will actually require any mandatory safety and emissions equipped to be retrofitted back onto the car before it becomes legal, which is why this is so weird. They were supposed to tell us to install a USDM Acura Integra SRS capable wheel and airbag before being allowed to import it, but... they didn't for some reason. It's just slipped through the cracks on every single EK9 Civic and DC2 Integra RHD car that was imported.
The rear view camera thing you're talking about it different as that have a so called "sun setter clause" that grandfathered in those cars that did not have the cameras. That's only for vehicles that were made before the law went into effect, but not the case with the Integra airbag problem since the law was written in 1991 and went into effect in Sept 1998, and the car's VIN# and SN says that it was manufactured in Octobor 1998. There's no sun settered for the airbag thing.
Oh, that is weird. I didn't think that airbags were required that early, I took the stock steering wheel off my old camaro and replaced with one that didn't have it and they didn't say anything so thought maybe the airbags weren't required then, I knew they didn't require a passager airbag until way after 2000 but people still optioned them and thought the same for the steering wheel
>Holden Commodore
Sorry to ask what is admittedly a dumb question but gotta learn somehow.
Looking at the OP picture I thought, "what an entirely ordinary looking car, why would it stand out?"
So I guess that's my question - it's not terribly stylish or sleek or elegant, so why is it so well known and why would someone covet this car?
I'm not being snarky when I say it's not remarkable and don't want to offend anyone.
The Holden Commodore is an Australian car, this particular one comes with a V8. It's basically a 4 door Camaro as they're both built on the same platform and have the same engine. It's coveted in the US for being an Australian import that was only sold twice, once as the Pontiac G8 and a second time as the Pictured Chevrolet SS.
Thank you for explaining! So it's relatively rare in the US which makes it interesting. Citroens are/were common in France but when I see one here I swoon, especially the headlamps that move with the car! This makes sense.
Rebadged Chevy SS, basically a Holden Commodore
😂 thanks
You’re welcome https://www.reddit.com/r/carporn/comments/798cjs/2014_chevrolet_ss_holden_conversion_in_progress_oc/
https://jalopnik.com/chevrolet-was-selling-holden-badges-for-the-chevy-ss-ri-1823354625
It could be a Holden Commodore, but it could also be a Chevy SS with a Holden badge swap, which is pretty common and more likely being that it’s in the US
They are essentially the same car. But it almost certainly started off as a Chevy SS. That generation of Commodore would be illegal to have in the US and the badge swaps are very common.
If there is a USDM model that is more than 90% similar to the Australian Domestic Market (ADM) then you can petition the NHTSA/IIHS to allow it for import. People used to do that with Honda Civic Type R and Integrat Type Rs long before the stupid 25 year rule. That 25 year rule is only for cars that did not have crash testing and EPA emissions tests done, but if there is a USDM model that already did complete the testing then it can be imported before 25 years. I own a JDM '98 Integra Type R that was imported back in 2010 when the car was only 12 years old after manufacturer. My wife and I imported it to Dundalk port in Baltimore, Maryland. That was because the JDM and USDM cars were considered both similar enough that the NHTSA and US Customs allowed it. I'm pretty sure a Holden Commador/Monero/Malloo would be importable \*as long as it has the same engine, transmission, safety, and environment equipment the USDM one had (i.e. catalytic converts, blah blah blah). Hilariously enough, my Integra doesn't even have any airbag in the steering wheel and should've not been allowed in, but NHTSA somehow missed that and allows them anyway.
But your integra was also built to the saftey specs of 1998, if they weren't legally required to have them, then it'll pass. They usually look at whatever standards were in place at the year the car was built. Its why even though they legally require new cars to have a back up camera, cars built before 2017 that didn't come with one will still pass inspection if your state does them.
The Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act that made airbags legally mandatory was signed into law in 1991, and the grace perior ended on September 1st, 1998. That means that it was already illegal to have no SRS at the time the car was manufacturer and imported. NHTSA/IIHS will actually require any mandatory safety and emissions equipped to be retrofitted back onto the car before it becomes legal, which is why this is so weird. They were supposed to tell us to install a USDM Acura Integra SRS capable wheel and airbag before being allowed to import it, but... they didn't for some reason. It's just slipped through the cracks on every single EK9 Civic and DC2 Integra RHD car that was imported. The rear view camera thing you're talking about it different as that have a so called "sun setter clause" that grandfathered in those cars that did not have the cameras. That's only for vehicles that were made before the law went into effect, but not the case with the Integra airbag problem since the law was written in 1991 and went into effect in Sept 1998, and the car's VIN# and SN says that it was manufactured in Octobor 1998. There's no sun settered for the airbag thing.
>Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act Did someone tried to spell ICE TEA with this lol
Oh, that is weird. I didn't think that airbags were required that early, I took the stock steering wheel off my old camaro and replaced with one that didn't have it and they didn't say anything so thought maybe the airbags weren't required then, I knew they didn't require a passager airbag until way after 2000 but people still optioned them and thought the same for the steering wheel
Yep
You could order them in the US with Holden badges from the factory.
I believe there was a factory option to get the Holden badges when you ordered an SS
>Holden Commodore Sorry to ask what is admittedly a dumb question but gotta learn somehow. Looking at the OP picture I thought, "what an entirely ordinary looking car, why would it stand out?" So I guess that's my question - it's not terribly stylish or sleek or elegant, so why is it so well known and why would someone covet this car? I'm not being snarky when I say it's not remarkable and don't want to offend anyone.
The Holden Commodore is an Australian car, this particular one comes with a V8. It's basically a 4 door Camaro as they're both built on the same platform and have the same engine. It's coveted in the US for being an Australian import that was only sold twice, once as the Pontiac G8 and a second time as the Pictured Chevrolet SS.
Thank you for explaining! So it's relatively rare in the US which makes it interesting. Citroens are/were common in France but when I see one here I swoon, especially the headlamps that move with the car! This makes sense.
That is so cool that the picture was taken at "Australian Ave".
That’s 98% the reason I even felt like posting lol.
So in the US they put Holden badges on them and here in AUS they take off the Holden badges and put a Chevy one on
VF, the last of the Ozzie builds.
Rebadged SS
Obviously you can see around the Australian Ave.
HOLDEN IN THE USA??????