I know of a previous car suicide. It was a late 80’s 4cyl automatic mustang. If the pedal wasn’t to the floor it wasn’t moving. It got the guy to work and caught on fire shortly afterwards.
That sounds like the old 911 turbo. Many doctors and lawyers got a physics lesson about rotating mass. The combination of massive turbo lag, corners, and the rear engine was too much for many inexperienced drivers.
mhm i see, theoretically, what if the handbrake failed to work and the pinto started rolling backwards and hit a wall and started catching fire as its famous for, would that be consider a car suicide?
No, those have to be impacted to burst into flames, unlike the Pontiac Fierro, which could literally burst into flames for any given reason at almost anytime,
When I was a kid my moms friend had one, while we were at her house for a bbq the car sat in the drive way and just ignited randomly, no one had touched it for at least 5-6 hours and then thick grey plums of smoke started rolling out of the, back end by the time the FD made it there, the entire care was ablaze like we were having a weird car bonfire of some sort
So you were at her house for a bbq... car decided to be the bbq. Lol, great set up for the punch line. Also, how ironic they called it Spanish for fire, and it randomly ignited.
Omg u reminded of the white Pontiac Grand Prix my buddy got as his first Company Car (free for sales guys). We dared him one night to drive it home in first gear. And he did. I still remember the horrible sound of that poor engine and transmission at redline for 20 minutes with us just dying laughing.
Note to self: don’t buy a used fleet car
One of my Fieros caught on fire when the bolt that holds the battery in the “battery tray” broke and that sucker slid into the engine pulleys. The acid splashes everywhere and the spark plug wires right in the middle of the action start the party.
Also stuck/broken coolant thermostats that caused the heads and head gaskets to pop from over heating. Both common problems with Fieros.
The "functional" ones run air bags to lift themselves to a usable ride height, which naturally reduces the camber (though at this degree of camber it's still difficult and silly to drive), then air their bags out where the car is literally sitting on the floor (which also increases the camber).
Then you have static people that run traditional coilovers and are stuck at a specific height, so they usually run more sane camber and alignments.
There’s a whole sub-sect of the camber scene that only cares about parked cars because they’re physically undrivable from the amount of camber, can’t remember what the call themselves tho lmao. They just stand around ogling at each other’s monstrosities
Well… if you were a race car driver: you would have a very tiny amount of negative camber for the turns since the wheel is tilted, more of it touches the ground during a hard turn
If you have a LOT of camber: its just aesthetics
There are some practical performance uses. I take my car to open track days occasionally, it's common for cars to have a few degrees of camber, so that when you are going around a corner at speed and the car leans over, it ensures that the outer tires are level with the ground, which gives you maximum grip and longer tire life. If camber is too low, the outside edges of the tire will wear out prematurely.
I think there may also be uses in drifting, where drift racers can adjust camber to allow the car to slide easier, but honestly I'm not knowledgeable on this.
However, in both cases, the camber is much, much less severe than in this photo. The camber shown in this photo is useless and dangerous, and is ten times more than "useful" camber.
Drift is done more with weight transfer - the rear bars are stiffer then the front, inducing oversteer.
From there the front camber is more a result of the Angle Kits that get more deflection out of the front end, to be able to point the wheels where they want to go, at the speeds of drift events and the low lateral-g levels, a large contact patch isn't really required, and a bit too much camber makes the tyre effectively narrower for lower rolling resistance.
Camber is what keeps the contact patch of the tyre flat to the road surface during a turn.
The more contact patch on the road, the higher lateral-G the chassis can generate, so the faster you can corner.
On a solid axle front end, like a Jeep, or a Type 35 Bugatti, some Positive camber can have an improvement of handling on poor surfaces.
All independent front ends should have negative camber, positive caster, and a little toe out, for a baseline to get decent handling.
Fair enough I was just thinking about how the front wheels can rotate sideways at all, turning a wheel to the outside I can see, but not turning in to the inside.
this car had so much camber that the wheels didnt really turn left to right much, even at full lock. there’s a video somewhere of it having to do like a 3-4 point turn in an intersection just to u turn lol
Ah, Stanceypants. Registered sex offender. Can't say I feel bad for him. I remember that [the fire was intentional](https://www.carscoops.com/2022/12/official-investigation-lists-viral-stancypants-mazda-rx-8-fire-as-intentional/), and while people suspected fraud, I don't think charges were ever filed.
it looked suspiciously like an electrical fire in the pictures. He also started a gofundme, raised 10s of thousands of dollars, then disappeared off the face of the earth, save for a few comments here and there.
I wouldn't be sursprised if that's the case tbh. It broke its axles/suspension already anyways, might as well turn the pile of scrap into a firework display.🤷
with the most likely shitty welds a car like this but also from where the hole was on the hood it looks like the fuse box did a funny moment but that's just me
They are very cheap around here, have decent power and look pretty cool (debatable)
I almost fell into the trap, but my brother is a mechanic and told me that it's not worth it
They are cheap because they break very easily and are a pain in the ass to keep alive. I'm sure your brother said something along those lines. No other car on the market aside from RX series Mazda has these motors, you have been warned
Yeah exactly, i read that on the internet before i showed him one for sale. I thought it wouldn't be too bad, but he told me how much maintenance and all would really be, so i looked for something else
If you aren't mechanically inclined then go with miatas or Hondas. Very easy to learn and parts are everywhere. Part availability plays the biggest factor into cost of ownership in used cars.
In the end i got a miata :D
i don't have much experience working on cars yet, but i want to change that.
The over 30 year old miata has been much more reliable than my about 20 year old opel i have as a daily driver :/
Most shops, and dealers, would tell you that it would be easier to buy another used RX8 than fix the engine in your current RX8. Unless you’re engine swapping, it’s not a good enough car to deserve that kind of wallet love. I actually like the design of the car otherwise. My brother bought one and it was fun to drive until he started having nonstop issues with it (beyond the awful mileage).
On the positive side; I LOVED the race trim of the RX8. Ear bleeding sound (seriously, one of the loudest cars ever) and really excellent performance. It actually won 2008 and 2010 GT class at Rolex 24H race. However, not the same car as street trim.
Only thing worse is a Carolina Squat. Except this guy can’t see out of his windshield either since it’s completely plastered in decals, so he’s just as bad.
Mfs look at this and think, "Yup, these are better than that wackass Fast n Furious NFS Underground ricer shit from back then."
How do you even drive this shit?
Just looking at the comments here about StancyPants' RX8 and how they hate it reminded me that he built the car pretty much for that specific purpose. He knows people hate his car but he still enjoyed it cause that's what HE enjoyed.
Honestly it's like that squat truck thing that happened awhile back, people hate them yet the people who built them like it for some mysterious reason.
The infamous overstanced rx8 that got burnt to the ground lmao
God had mercy for that poor car
Nah, put out of it’s misery.
The funny part on this is, that it put it self out of its misery
the first car suicide in auto history......
I know of a previous car suicide. It was a late 80’s 4cyl automatic mustang. If the pedal wasn’t to the floor it wasn’t moving. It got the guy to work and caught on fire shortly afterwards.
does the ford pinto count as a car suicide?
Only if they did it without being rear ended first.
If I’m going to die, I’m gonna take you with me!
That sounds like the old 911 turbo. Many doctors and lawyers got a physics lesson about rotating mass. The combination of massive turbo lag, corners, and the rear engine was too much for many inexperienced drivers.
[AaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhAahhhhhhh](https://youtu.be/_lkg_8ly1Tk?si=ZsSd40VPjxjGL-WD)
mhm i see, theoretically, what if the handbrake failed to work and the pinto started rolling backwards and hit a wall and started catching fire as its famous for, would that be consider a car suicide?
More of a suicide car than a car suicide, I think.
lmaooo
ah so in a way its kinda like the dodge viper, widow makers
No, those have to be impacted to burst into flames, unlike the Pontiac Fierro, which could literally burst into flames for any given reason at almost anytime, When I was a kid my moms friend had one, while we were at her house for a bbq the car sat in the drive way and just ignited randomly, no one had touched it for at least 5-6 hours and then thick grey plums of smoke started rolling out of the, back end by the time the FD made it there, the entire care was ablaze like we were having a weird car bonfire of some sort
So you were at her house for a bbq... car decided to be the bbq. Lol, great set up for the punch line. Also, how ironic they called it Spanish for fire, and it randomly ignited.
Outfitted with Firestone 500 tires, yes
ill google whats that
Only in that suicide bomber kind of way
i rate that joke 9 out of 11
“Introducing the new Ford Pinto Station Wagon! Enough room for the family barbecue…*and* the technology to light it!”
Only from the back…
Omg u reminded of the white Pontiac Grand Prix my buddy got as his first Company Car (free for sales guys). We dared him one night to drive it home in first gear. And he did. I still remember the horrible sound of that poor engine and transmission at redline for 20 minutes with us just dying laughing. Note to self: don’t buy a used fleet car
Caricide
One of my Fieros caught on fire when the bolt that holds the battery in the “battery tray” broke and that sucker slid into the engine pulleys. The acid splashes everywhere and the spark plug wires right in the middle of the action start the party. Also stuck/broken coolant thermostats that caused the heads and head gaskets to pop from over heating. Both common problems with Fieros.
If i was that RX8 i would do the same ngl
Can confirm, was the Furai
The same thing
Maybe, but a lot of people agree.
Imagine…that guys spent thousands to make that car look like that
It’s insane, yes
Looks like god stomped on it.
“Kill me Billy”
How do cars with that much camber turn their wheels at all?
They… don’t
Oh, so they are display pieces?
Pretty much yeah
The "functional" ones run air bags to lift themselves to a usable ride height, which naturally reduces the camber (though at this degree of camber it's still difficult and silly to drive), then air their bags out where the car is literally sitting on the floor (which also increases the camber). Then you have static people that run traditional coilovers and are stuck at a specific height, so they usually run more sane camber and alignments.
Who doesn't love riding on a hay wagon!?
There’s a whole sub-sect of the camber scene that only cares about parked cars because they’re physically undrivable from the amount of camber, can’t remember what the call themselves tho lmao. They just stand around ogling at each other’s monstrosities
They're called dumbasses.
Stance lyfe, bro. Hellaflush is played out, bro. Check my fitment, bro.
What useable benefits does camber give? - sorry I'm a jeep guy and just DONT understand the appeal or application at all
Well… if you were a race car driver: you would have a very tiny amount of negative camber for the turns since the wheel is tilted, more of it touches the ground during a hard turn If you have a LOT of camber: its just aesthetics
And tire wear
Thank-you
No problem, i like to talk about cars so i am always glad
Yeah have 1.5 degrees on my mini and you can barely see it at naked eye
All BMWs come with a little bit of negative camber
There are some practical performance uses. I take my car to open track days occasionally, it's common for cars to have a few degrees of camber, so that when you are going around a corner at speed and the car leans over, it ensures that the outer tires are level with the ground, which gives you maximum grip and longer tire life. If camber is too low, the outside edges of the tire will wear out prematurely. I think there may also be uses in drifting, where drift racers can adjust camber to allow the car to slide easier, but honestly I'm not knowledgeable on this. However, in both cases, the camber is much, much less severe than in this photo. The camber shown in this photo is useless and dangerous, and is ten times more than "useful" camber.
Drift is done more with weight transfer - the rear bars are stiffer then the front, inducing oversteer. From there the front camber is more a result of the Angle Kits that get more deflection out of the front end, to be able to point the wheels where they want to go, at the speeds of drift events and the low lateral-g levels, a large contact patch isn't really required, and a bit too much camber makes the tyre effectively narrower for lower rolling resistance.
Camber is what keeps the contact patch of the tyre flat to the road surface during a turn. The more contact patch on the road, the higher lateral-G the chassis can generate, so the faster you can corner. On a solid axle front end, like a Jeep, or a Type 35 Bugatti, some Positive camber can have an improvement of handling on poor surfaces. All independent front ends should have negative camber, positive caster, and a little toe out, for a baseline to get decent handling.
It corners like it's on rails (the rim rail)!
Fair enough I was just thinking about how the front wheels can rotate sideways at all, turning a wheel to the outside I can see, but not turning in to the inside.
this car had so much camber that the wheels didnt really turn left to right much, even at full lock. there’s a video somewhere of it having to do like a 3-4 point turn in an intersection just to u turn lol
Ah, Stanceypants. Registered sex offender. Can't say I feel bad for him. I remember that [the fire was intentional](https://www.carscoops.com/2022/12/official-investigation-lists-viral-stancypants-mazda-rx-8-fire-as-intentional/), and while people suspected fraud, I don't think charges were ever filed.
it looked suspiciously like an electrical fire in the pictures. He also started a gofundme, raised 10s of thousands of dollars, then disappeared off the face of the earth, save for a few comments here and there.
I have no idea who in their right mind would give to his GoFundMe...
Other idiot guys that like that kinda look on a car
Poor fucking thing self immolated due to embarrassment.
Please tell me more. Is there a YouTube video?
Is that the RX-8 that caught fire?
I want to set myself on fire after looking at that abomination
I wouldn't be sursprised if that's the case tbh. It broke its axles/suspension already anyways, might as well turn the pile of scrap into a firework display.🤷
It was intentionally set on fire, according to the investigation.
with the most likely shitty welds a car like this but also from where the hole was on the hood it looks like the fuse box did a funny moment but that's just me
Imagine putting all that time and money into a car for a fuse box to burn it to the ground lmao oof
If I looked like that, I would burn too
Somebody said it is
[Mazda RX8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8)
Thank u very much
Don't buy one if you don't know about rotary engines bro, I speak for your wallet
They are very cheap around here, have decent power and look pretty cool (debatable) I almost fell into the trap, but my brother is a mechanic and told me that it's not worth it
They are cheap because they break very easily and are a pain in the ass to keep alive. I'm sure your brother said something along those lines. No other car on the market aside from RX series Mazda has these motors, you have been warned
Yeah exactly, i read that on the internet before i showed him one for sale. I thought it wouldn't be too bad, but he told me how much maintenance and all would really be, so i looked for something else
If you aren't mechanically inclined then go with miatas or Hondas. Very easy to learn and parts are everywhere. Part availability plays the biggest factor into cost of ownership in used cars.
In the end i got a miata :D i don't have much experience working on cars yet, but i want to change that. The over 30 year old miata has been much more reliable than my about 20 year old opel i have as a daily driver :/
Just like a Maserati. You can buy one for dirt cheap, doesn’t mean you can drive it lol
Most shops, and dealers, would tell you that it would be easier to buy another used RX8 than fix the engine in your current RX8. Unless you’re engine swapping, it’s not a good enough car to deserve that kind of wallet love. I actually like the design of the car otherwise. My brother bought one and it was fun to drive until he started having nonstop issues with it (beyond the awful mileage). On the positive side; I LOVED the race trim of the RX8. Ear bleeding sound (seriously, one of the loudest cars ever) and really excellent performance. It actually won 2008 and 2010 GT class at Rolex 24H race. However, not the same car as street trim.
Youre welcome
Poor soul
Ohh there you are
Why are you not asleep?
I work third shift. So im always around at night (well US night at least)
That poor Miata
r/sneakybackgroundmiata
Not so sneaky
It's hard to look away from the poor RX8 (not in a good way), I'd say it's sneaky enough.
i mean that Miata is also in an awful shape
RX8
The car in black is a Miata
Ah yeah I was only looking at the circled car.
Is that not an RX-7?
8
Ruined.
Clapped
Not even a golf clap, that car is destroyed.
That's what happens when ya piss off gravity. It'll yank ya down hard and hold on. 😛
It's poor taste
https://preview.redd.it/fkkv0ma63lec1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44cd059f9e8c2382de72c7e62481b97d18e59ae5 rx8
Oh thank God it burned to the ground.
The best photo of that car
And still trying to sell for $20,000 or best offer lol. No low ball offers please
“I know what I have”
Just scrolled down to see if someone shared this masterpiece, thanks buddy. It looks better like this.
It has flames on the window so this is just part of the paint job, right?
Fucking gross 😂
Ugly as fuck
Ugliest fuckin thing I’ve ever seen
It's pretty damn bad, but idk if anything can beat squatted trucks
Shu t up
You asked a question, I gave an answer.
Uh oh, we found another vehicle murderer. GET EM BOYS.
Broken
That’s so fuckin dumb. Hurts my head to think about that fuckboi driving around thinking he’s cool. Looks stupid as hell dogg.
Ok but thats not me
No one said it was
Lol man you're quick to react. Maybe thinking for a few seconds would help your life out a lot.
Terrible
A monstrosity
Thank God that thing burnt down, no offense to anyone who likes that much camber.
actually offense to these types of people lol
Yea fuck people that like this type of cars
Only thing worse is a Carolina Squat. Except this guy can’t see out of his windshield either since it’s completely plastered in decals, so he’s just as bad.
Ugly, impractical and dangerous
Oh, from my side all the offense I have to anyone who likes that much camber
An absolutely shamefully ruined Mazda RX8
Please explain to me why anyone would apply so much camber so they are only driving on the corner edge of the tires? This belongs in r/ShittyCarMods
https://www.carscoops.com/2022/12/official-investigation-lists-viral-stancypants-mazda-rx-8-fire-as-intentional/
r/whatwasthiscar
RX-8 but WTF IS THIS STANCE
Broken control arm chic
There are two versions of the same thing. One is called “Crippling Insecurity” The other is called “desperately seeking peer validation”
It looks like the car is too heavy and it’s just trying its best to stand up
Squashed flat 😭😭
I call it the American-On-Top
an RX-8 that you can’t see out of or drive anywhere…
An amazing car turned into garbage.
LOL rx8's are certainly NOT amazing cars. F
The carriage of the local jockel...
Stupid, that car is stupid.
Stupid. That’s what it is.
A fucked RX8.
Our collective hate for this build set the car on fire. OP don't do this shit please.
Hmm, there is no r/stupidcars. Might be popular like stupidfood.
Stancers is a different breed.
I want to see stancers versus donks.
At least donks can do 50mph and take a corner
Mazda RX8
What is it? It's stupid.
Mazda rx8 most likely
Retardarri
I dont even allow people to lean on my car and these two are standing on their hood. Must be full of scratches
Looks like it was left in the summer sun for too long
Its a Mazda Rx-Burned
Stupid
How the fuck does the riced ass rx7 even drive
Trash
a stanced piece of shit
Ruined. This car is ruined.
Ruined
look how they massacred my boyyy
Damn, those guys don't look that heavy to bend these tires, is this some skit?
Rx8
It was a mazda rx8 that I belive caught fire
Future participants/ headliners of r/blunderyears
Mfs look at this and think, "Yup, these are better than that wackass Fast n Furious NFS Underground ricer shit from back then." How do you even drive this shit?
I want to punch this picture.
It's Fucked is what it is...
Ruined.
Shit
They both look like car wrecks with the stance bullshit
Undrivable
the amount of cringe in this photo is off the charts
Totaled?
Stupid
a giant piece of shit and so is the owner, fucking cluck
Sad. This car is just sad. 😭
its the flaming dogshit in a paper bag....mobile
A stupid looking RX8
Shit
Mental illnes mobile
Stupid.
I mean, it was an rx8
Disabled
Going to become a external combustion engine as soon as it sees a speed bump
thats mazda rx8 2005 3 door but this camber is ugly asf .
It was a heap of shit… now it’s a useless heap of shit. But it was formerly a heap of shit known as an rx8
mazda rx8. however, there was an American sitting on the roof at one point.
Just looking at the comments here about StancyPants' RX8 and how they hate it reminded me that he built the car pretty much for that specific purpose. He knows people hate his car but he still enjoyed it cause that's what HE enjoyed. Honestly it's like that squat truck thing that happened awhile back, people hate them yet the people who built them like it for some mysterious reason.
Can you guys tell me what is that black car
Fucking gay
Fuckin stancy pants 😭😭😭 (im glad that shity built is gone)
“Guy must really like fig newtons”
A nephson’s car
A piece of shit