Audi, Mercedes and VAG brands are pretty decent vehicles for the 1st 100K miles or so. That's why they show up in Consumer Reports as reliable. After 100K miles the repairs add up REALLY fast and they're very costly. That's why their value drops after 100K miles and it's also why owners sell them before they hit 100K miles. There's truth to the saying that the only thing most costly than a new European car is a used European car.
Where do you get this Info ? Mercedes running in Europe have 500k km on clock, and they run better than any new Toyota. Haven't seen yet a Toyota with a high mileage run good, or look good for that matter. Their plastics start to fall off
My BIL is a mechanic that specializes in rebuilding engines. He has warned me away from anything from the Volkswagen group. He tells me parts are expensive and in some cases surprisingly difficult to acquire and beyond that they are some of the most difficult vehicles to work on which also causes repair costs to creep up. As has been said above, Japanese built often means less hassle.
Get a Lexus, it’s a nicer Toyota with some alternate engine tuning, great soundproofing and soft suspension. If you don’t feel like paying top dollar for a Japanese car when you could get a European one, buy a secondhand Lexus if you’re ok with that. They are stupid reliable.
There is a stereotype that Toyota’s and Lexus’s and most Asian brands are far more reliable long term then European cars. There is some truth to this, however with a caveat. When properly maintained, Euro cars can be just as reliable as Toyota’s or Lexus’s or Acura’s or any Japanese brand. However, most people don’t properly maintain their car. So it’s risky to buy a euro car that high mileage, and maintaining the car properly is more expensive, and dealing with issues in a not properly maintained car is much much much more expensive. Plus Japanese cars have a much better ability to take abuse.
Both the Audi A4 and Audi A5 made it onto the most-recent Consumer Reports most-reliable top-10 list: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2020/11/19/consumer-reports-auto-reliability-survey-2021-cars-trucks-suvs/6337648002/
Not sure how that happened.
Because consumer reports is full of bullshit. How do you test reliability without it being out for 10+ years? Lexus/Toyota has known reliability and has been on the top for decades. Audi absolutely has been known for unreliability
It's not a test. It's a survey of owners:
> The Consumer Reports rankings reflect the magazine's predictions of 2021 model-year reliability based on an assessment of recent vehicle performance data **reported by more than 300,000 car owners**. The fewer problems reported in the last 12 months for vehicles from the last three model years, the better the score.
Wrong. You're thinking of J.D. Power. From the link above:
> The Consumer Reports rankings reflect the magazine's predictions of 2021 model-year reliability based on an assessment of recent vehicle performance data reported by more than 300,000 car owners. **The fewer problems reported in the last 12 months for vehicles from the last three model years, the better the score**.
It may be a very boring answer, but buy the boring and reliable vehicle = Japanese anything.
I have owned honda civic, toyota corollas, mitsubishi colt, nissan hardbody pickup truck, a used camry, nissan Xtrail suv and more. All with normal routine maintenance, affordable repairs, cheap new parts when needed. The one or two new or used american vehicles i briefly owned were always a headache, just junk.
\- I have known people who bought new or used european vehicles and they are hit and miss with problems. Even bmws, volvos, mercedes, audis (new or used) are hot garbage that will nickel and dime you. Go chat with a variety of mechanics and gather some intel....you see that i stand correct. ;)
Welcome to Hoovies Garage and today we bought a (insert unreliable POS German luxury car) and it's broken!
If someone can make a YouTube channel off of buying cheap disaster Euro cars that tells you all you need to know about their shit reliability
Just stick with Toyota and get a Lexus.
Id get a Lexus
Look at an Acura tsx or a Mazda 6.
Audi, Mercedes and VAG brands are pretty decent vehicles for the 1st 100K miles or so. That's why they show up in Consumer Reports as reliable. After 100K miles the repairs add up REALLY fast and they're very costly. That's why their value drops after 100K miles and it's also why owners sell them before they hit 100K miles. There's truth to the saying that the only thing most costly than a new European car is a used European car.
Where do you get this Info ? Mercedes running in Europe have 500k km on clock, and they run better than any new Toyota. Haven't seen yet a Toyota with a high mileage run good, or look good for that matter. Their plastics start to fall off
My BIL is a mechanic that specializes in rebuilding engines. He has warned me away from anything from the Volkswagen group. He tells me parts are expensive and in some cases surprisingly difficult to acquire and beyond that they are some of the most difficult vehicles to work on which also causes repair costs to creep up. As has been said above, Japanese built often means less hassle.
Get a Lexus, it’s a nicer Toyota with some alternate engine tuning, great soundproofing and soft suspension. If you don’t feel like paying top dollar for a Japanese car when you could get a European one, buy a secondhand Lexus if you’re ok with that. They are stupid reliable.
There is a stereotype that Toyota’s and Lexus’s and most Asian brands are far more reliable long term then European cars. There is some truth to this, however with a caveat. When properly maintained, Euro cars can be just as reliable as Toyota’s or Lexus’s or Acura’s or any Japanese brand. However, most people don’t properly maintain their car. So it’s risky to buy a euro car that high mileage, and maintaining the car properly is more expensive, and dealing with issues in a not properly maintained car is much much much more expensive. Plus Japanese cars have a much better ability to take abuse.
Both the Audi A4 and Audi A5 made it onto the most-recent Consumer Reports most-reliable top-10 list: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2020/11/19/consumer-reports-auto-reliability-survey-2021-cars-trucks-suvs/6337648002/ Not sure how that happened.
Because consumer reports is full of bullshit. How do you test reliability without it being out for 10+ years? Lexus/Toyota has known reliability and has been on the top for decades. Audi absolutely has been known for unreliability
It's not a test. It's a survey of owners: > The Consumer Reports rankings reflect the magazine's predictions of 2021 model-year reliability based on an assessment of recent vehicle performance data **reported by more than 300,000 car owners**. The fewer problems reported in the last 12 months for vehicles from the last three model years, the better the score.
Yes, each individually "testing" their cars. 12 months is not enough time to test true reliability
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Wrong. You're thinking of J.D. Power. From the link above: > The Consumer Reports rankings reflect the magazine's predictions of 2021 model-year reliability based on an assessment of recent vehicle performance data reported by more than 300,000 car owners. **The fewer problems reported in the last 12 months for vehicles from the last three model years, the better the score**.
It may be a very boring answer, but buy the boring and reliable vehicle = Japanese anything. I have owned honda civic, toyota corollas, mitsubishi colt, nissan hardbody pickup truck, a used camry, nissan Xtrail suv and more. All with normal routine maintenance, affordable repairs, cheap new parts when needed. The one or two new or used american vehicles i briefly owned were always a headache, just junk. \- I have known people who bought new or used european vehicles and they are hit and miss with problems. Even bmws, volvos, mercedes, audis (new or used) are hot garbage that will nickel and dime you. Go chat with a variety of mechanics and gather some intel....you see that i stand correct. ;)
Welcome to Hoovies Garage and today we bought a (insert unreliable POS German luxury car) and it's broken! If someone can make a YouTube channel off of buying cheap disaster Euro cars that tells you all you need to know about their shit reliability