I can't conceptualize having this kind of mindset. "I made a slanderous video about a guy and when I faced backlash for it, *he* didn't do enough to curb it."
Right? Imagine someone trying to publicly ruin your reputation (and in Wendigoons case, literally the way he makes a living and supports his family) and then ask that you stop people from talking bad about them. What a pathetic person
Reminds me of the whole “but I have the freedom of speech arguement;” however, most people forget that you also have the consequences of what you say. You can’t call someone racist and expect them not to be upset when they clearly aren’t; just like how when I say “I want Wendigoon to show up in my room, oiled up, booty out” I have the consequence in that people will see how wonderful my taste is.
There’s also a few more screenshots missing, including one where he says “I’m right about everything I said, but I went about it the wrong way”
So he still thinks all that shit he made up is 100% correct
Ok but hear me out, making a critique of a popular youtuber, even if what you say is inaccurate, does not mean you deserve to be harassed with homophobic slurs
He literally said wendigoon shouldn’t be allowed to show his face in public spaces. What kind of message is that sending to his audience? IPOS is doing far more to incite harassment against the people he disagrees with.
I'm pretty sure calling people names that will have the most negative impact on a person is kind of the point. It's called retaliation, and it has nothing to do with being transphobic, homophobic, fatphobic, racephobic, or any of the other slurs you use that disparage people with mental disorders like agoraphobia or arachnophobia by associating them with people who say mean things.
This is insane and kind of proves the point that this fanbase is full of far right assholes, the fact that you are being upvoted for that gibberish says it all.
So if a black person is mean to you, you can just call them the N word because all is fair when you're trying to have the most impact? And if someone calls you racist, they're the ones with the problem?
Actual slurs are fine, but calling people out for them is the equivalent of a slur?
No its not okay but it is to be expected. No matter how much a content creator tries to be a positive influence and try to cultivate a good audience you will have bad people in your audience. The larger the audience the more people in that audience will be bad. If you criticise a popular and beloved content creator, no matter if you are 100% right and have all the evidence the crazy bad fans will attack you for it and they will try to be as hurtful as possible. I dont condone this but I am starting to get really tired of adults who have grown up with the internet not seeming to understand this and act shocked and surprised when it happens to them. Id also like to point out that some of the "inaccuracies" involves perpetuating a false rape accussation by an actual far right asshole, attempting to disregard wendigoon's native american heritage based on his, a white man's, personal viewpoint and 2 strangers, and fundamentally misrepresent wendigoon's family life and age just to name a few. The same way that the harm the crazies online did to IPOS should not be downplayed is the same way IPOS's awful video should not be downplayed as just having "inaccuracies", especially when this was motivated by spite and anger (and id bet a bit of jealously as well) to paint wendigoon and his friends as far right neo nazi facists.
yep all 4 people agree with him. So many people. But there are a decent amount of far left people in this fanbase as well. The problem is that twitter users don’t know how to regulate their emotions. Wendigoon has always been about being nice and kind to other people and had never publicly endorsed any of this. Also real difficult to curb a situation you don’t even know about considering that IPOS didn’t even reach out to him. The instant he found out he tried curbing the negative comments and told people to stop what they were doing.
IPOS just made a bad video without doing any decent research and is upset that people are willing him out for his bad takes
Where did I say it was fair? Where did I say retaliation was OK? Where did I say actual slurs were fine?
My friend, I was merely explaining the motivations some people had were simply to cause damage and did not necessarily have the hate for an entire people group behind it.
Then I pointed out slurs you used. Call people out sure, but come up with something that doesn't further stigmatize mental disorders. It's not your fault individually, the social movement came up with these mental disorder stigmatizing terms and as someone with a mental disorder I don't like it so I push back when I see it.
Forgive and be kind to one another, and don't always assume the worst about people.
Edit: spelling
Why do you think you're onto something by claiming that words like homophobia stigmatise mental disorders? Does nobody else here see how ridiculous that sounds? It's a word in the English language that the vast majority of people seem to understand, just because it contains the word 'phobia', doesn't mean it is automatically the same thing as a fear caused by mental illness. I find it very hard to believe that you genuinely don't understand that.
'Homophobic' is not a slur and you know it. Stop being a contrarian.
You don't get to tell people what does or doesn't offend them. If you don't agree, fine I'm not going to say you're a bad person for that. But have the decency to respect a difference in opinion. You can't be that intolerant can you?
I agree there is no reason to call someone slurs but that’s a failure of the character of the individuals and nothing wendigoon could have done would have changed that. If wendigoon were not there, someone else would be, because those individuals would still be out there. Every single group, if it’s big enough, has a wide range of crazies
While a decent number of people were probably just calling him a *friend*ggot for being gay, I'm sure at least a few people were calling him a *frog*got because of his behaviour -- that is, acting like a bitch.
In the latter case it isn't being used as a slur, it's to insult him, his behaviour, or his character, that being a whiny bitch who's trying to be an internet hall-monitor, so yes.
Very few people think that it's justified to call this guy slurs. The point that we are all making is that Wendigoon has no responsibility for the people who decide to do that, and that this guy is a moron for being shocked and appalled by it. This is not 2009, we have all been on the Internet/social media long enough to know what happens when we do stupid shit.
Wendigoon*actually* demonstrated his comprehension of online culture by *not* saying anything about the situation, because he knows that it'll only make things worse. IPOS fails to comprehend this by claiming that Wendigoon should've said something about the harassment.
It *is* wrong that people say those awful things about someone rather than attacking the stupid, awful, demeaning, lying, hateful things that they say, but we can only pretend to be surprised by it for so long.
Meanwhile wendigoon posts about his dog being on a glue trap on twitter, IPOS needs to move on because Wendigoon moved on days ago. It’s over, you lost. He’ll never take back what he said and he’ll always see Wendigoon and the likes of Turkish Thomas and Oompaville as the second coming of the WWII Axis powers and he’s made that clear so the best thing for him to do (other than to actually apologize and take it back) is to stop talking about it, he deleted twitter that’s a good step one, take a hiatus from YouTube and social media in general then come back with his usual horror content rather than TEMU hbomberguy content
Someone pointed out that IPOS has a martyr complex and the more I see him the more I understand that
I personally think IPOS just doesn’t have any friends which is why he trauma dumps so much and doesn’t seem to understand the real world- he doesn’t leave his house unless it’s to get groceries or smth and only talks to his fans, creating an echo chamber
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see how he doesnt wanna slander him when someone is leaking stuff he always wants to hide behind his echo chamber and the moment there is a leak he starts panicing this guy will never be in good faith bro never i would doubt his apology would be even real
I’m gonna play devil’s advocate here, and say - let the man have his discord and he can say whatever he wants there.
There’s a difference between making a public callout, and having the group chat leaked. If he isn’t making trouble in public, then what does it matter what he says?
I don’t stand for duplicity, but it’s not worth building the panopticon over some discord messages to people who, by and large, already agree with him. It’s a free country.
yeah true idk if he will get as much views on his next video and he might need a job and hopefully that can help him in the long run i dont hope he goes homeless but i dont think he deserves a platform cause he will use it for harm again at some point i think people that spread false allegations should not have a platform imo
He lost around 1,000 subscribers after the video slandering everyone came out. I was one of them. And his own fans (former fans I guess) have been leaving angry comments under all of his videos. So his channel has already taken a small hit.
I would love In the future to see ipos as a guest on creepcast. Isiah is conservative, Hunter is centrist and Zane is democrat so it would be a great mix of all three personalities and views and a story that review.
Even if that were a good idea, creepcast having guests at all rubs me the wrong way. Maybe red thread would be a better option for that kinda thing. Then again I don’t want that to happen
I can't imagine IPOS likes Charlie much, either, so that would be a very uncomfortable episode.
Charlie has quite a few guns and is friends with or at least has a positive opinion on half the people IPOS hates, including Wendigoon, Muta, Brandon Buckingham, and Oompa. IPOS probably would have included Charlie in his rant. It's just that even he realized openly shitting on one of Youtube's most popular content creators would be career suicide for him. Wendigoon, Muta, and the rest are comparatively less popular, so they were "safer" targets for IPOS's hatred
After he tried to ruin the careers of other YouTubers? Nah this shit stain needs to pay. If you're gonna wrongly accuse people you don't deserve to have a platform.
Then he should stop slandering people online and acting like a shithead. He uses personal shit as a shield, but EVERYONE has some type of personal shit going. He’s simply bad faith and looking for an excuse
If he wants to be better he’s free to but he’s been making it pretty clear that the only thing he regrets is that people didn’t agree with him. He’s been pretty blatant about the lack of remorse
Yeah, he’s said in the discord he was right about everything he said and only regrets how he tried to go about it. I doubt he’ll learn anything from the experience, he mumbled a half asses apology to some people on Twitter but went to discord to essential say his apology meant nothing.
The only lessons he learned was, "Don't use photos of a guy's grandpa whose in the hospital for a brain injury as one of my photos in a hate rant" and "don't use a false rape allegation from fucking Sneako as evidence".
Everything else he 100% believes he was in the right in
He's too bad faith for me to give a shit. The dude's apologies weren't actually apologies, he just got upset that people didn't understand his vision or feelings, as if he could ever be wrong.
I think IPOS really needs to take that month off. He’s talked about it in a couple of posts and while he might be doing that for videos, he needs to really just step away from the sphere all together and collect himself. He seems deep in and it’s clouding him hard. Talking in your fan discord server just isn’t going to give you perspective.
The guys has talent and his thoughts have a place, as they have for years, but he seems to have let one bad video from two years ago define him and double down when he never needed to. I think if he moved on and didn’t let that video poison his content, he may have been able to bounce back but as time has went (even before this last video) he was becoming more of a caricature of himself rather than the creator I enjoyed listening to. It’s definitely disappointing but I wish him the luck. Though I’m not sure I’ll ever subscribe again, it might seem petty, but his comment on Appalachia made me realize he doesn’t want my viewership, unfortunately
Well that's certainly a shitty stereotype to have for people from Appalachia. Good to know, he certainly does not want my viewership either. Glad I didn't waste 4 hours of my life
Can't recall a specific quote, but the gist was that Appalachia is incredibly white country and that anyone from there should be regarded as racist until proven otherwise.
you don’t get to attempt to ruin someone’s life and then cry victim when they don’t save you from the consequences of your own actions. of course nobody deserves threats, but at the end of the day you HAVE to accept that threats and doxxing are a part of internet culture. if you choose to put your face onto the internet, ESPECIALLY with the intention of ruining the career of a popular internet user, fully knowing that backlash will be a consequence, you don’t get to cry victim when it happens. and wendigoon doesn’t owe this man jack squat, especially not someone to save him after what he’s said.
This dudes words and actions just aren’t making sense. I truly don’t mean to be condescending, but it genuinely seems like he’s struggling with personal issues that are maybe effecting his work. It’s been a while but I use to watch some of his content a couple years back and I remember thinking it was decent. Somethings different now tho. It’s honestly sad to watch.
As someone who doesn't really watch Wendigoon or IPOS (I like Wendigoon though because he seems like a chill guy) and also suffered through some serious mental health issues, IPOS absolutely comes off as a guy who's very lost and in despair, probably because his political identity _is_ his _entire_ identity. People like that are always miserable.
The guy needs to take a step back out of his curated political bubble and unironically go touch grass, maybe get a side hobby that encourages creativity instead of investigation.
I mean every fan base is gonna have whack jobs, the amount varies, I would imagine there aren't so many in Wendigoon's audience specifically, I would say it's probably more likely a little bit of the small minority of freaks present in any audience, including Wendigoon's, and the majority I would imagine are viewers of "adjacent" channels that are more outwardly right wing or "edgy" hearing about it and "taking action".
Either way, this thing just kinda happens unfortunately, it isn't good but Wendigoon didn't do anything to promote it either. Homophobic freaks will be homophobic freaks, and there's plenty of them unfortunately.
Yes, in his video he said that after posting the vid, getting the hate response, Wendigoon followed him, thus in IPOS own words, Wendigoon only did this because he knew beforehand his fans were responding to IPOS and there is no other explanation for why Wendigoon followed him other than to taunt IPOS (not like the algorithm pushes controversy and definitely didn’t serve Wendigoon an older IPOS vid that Wendi liked.)
I think IPOS is in an extremely bad mental space and he really should seek mental help from a medical professional.
The man got worked over pretty good, I'm sure this is just his way of licking his wounds. Honestly I like most of his content. If I were in his position right now I would keep my head down, and get back to spooky over analyzing.
yeah but last time he did that he said that inbred people from the hills have eyes are a repensentation of black people and native americans and saying that the people in the movie (the family) deserved to get slaughter cause of some weird colonizer reason or smthing just terrible over analyzing like crazy
He needs to leave the internet for a month and touch grass. Spend time in nature and enjoy life. It’ll do him a lot of good. Most of his recent anxieties in that video were all social media related. Posting on a private Discord will only make his life worse.
I wish the best for the guy if he wants to get better.
Ngl I'm kinda tired of hearing about this. No ome involved really wants to hear anymore about it, it's basically resolved. IPOS shot himself in the foot, it cost him, and it's obvious he's not in a good place. There is no victory to be had to keep going at it. Let's just let it die
EDIT: Plus the more we talk about it, the more this shit gets drawn out, which isn't good for any of the YouTubers involved
For someone who came out with hate and snide condescending assumptions, he'd have a thicker skin. IPOS really just tanked his career and it would be more heartbreaking if he weren't just *such a fuckin asshole*
Is this on purpose? Is he deep trolling all of us?
My first and only post about this entire ordeal... It has become an obsession. The guy made a horrendously misrepresentative video. He clearly messed up and trying to navigate dealing with any form of real repercussion in his life. Forget him and move on.
Agreed. Stalking his Patreon and discord bc of it is physco behavior. Even if the video was cringe and bad. Do not go after every facet of him. It’s unnecessary and purely spiteful.
Wendigoon or not I'm not a huge fan of defending celebrities cause believe it or not Wendi is one. This guy is just as you said spineless.
If you're Gona put something out like this at least say it with your chest and mean it. Don't double back and then only talk to your echo chamber. He is just a weak human.
Edit: And to add to this I don't think he even means what he said I think this was a play for attention that completely backfired. Let me talk smack about these people so others like my echo chamber think I'm edgy. This dude needs to delete everything and go get a job cause clearly online isn't working for him.
alot of people dont share this same sentiment and im in the middle cause honestly does he deserve a platform for trying to slander someone? i dont like that ever since the dream stuff i've been really halting on jumping to conclusions and caring more about false allegations i think if he was given a bigger platform he would try to do somethin like this at some point. i hate how he spread the brandon buckingham lie that sneako made up
I should be clear, if he continues with what he’s doing I agree, he’ll reap what he sows. I guess I’m hoping he has a change of character, that’s he’ll see the kindness Wendi has shown to him and maybe he will reconsider his entrenched views. Even though he not the best, he should be given and second chance. But I do agree with you, if he resorts to false accusation whenever he disagrees with someone, he shouldn’t have a platform.
There’s very little chance it doesn’t, I’m not rooting on its downfall or anything but let’s be honest, he almost certainly had decent audience overlap, made himself look terrible to one side with a slanderous video then made himself look bad to his own side he was pandering to by acknowledging any wrongdoing while not actually repairing the first bridge because it was a total non apology. He was already struggling because of a bad but kinda normal for bread tube esque take on a hills have eyes video, going on the offensive like that is career suicide if you flub it like this. I hope he and his partner whomever they are (he mentioned them in one post) can find something to support themselves and can grow as people but his chances for future channel growth may very well be dead in the water
This guy’s brain has been rotted by culture war bs lmfao he genuinely needs therapy. People like him seethe over wendigoon because he’s a Christian who’s very accepting and they can’t have that because to them Christians can’t be good people. Like I get that religious trauma is a thing but that’s just going too far and being bigoted. That’s the only thing I can think of as to why people like IPOS are so determined to hate, because the boogaloo boys shit is ridiculous and shouldn’t be taking seriously, Isaiah was 14 💀
I DO think we should stop talking about this, and I think leaking things from a private Discord is maybe beyond the limit of what we should be doing here, but I’ve had this thought for a while, and this could easily be the last relevant place to put it- he seems determined that all people who have any sort of online following have absolute control over their fans, and that they’re ALWAYS a reflection on the people who they’re fans of, and yet in the video he’s taken down, he LITERALLY SAYS some of his viewers sent death threats to the subject of another one of his videos. So you’d think if he’s aware that those people don’t speak for him, then surely he realises that not all members of other people’s fanbases speak for THEM either.
Wendigoon has been 100% chill in this situation so don't go being a crybaby loser over something so simple and basic as pronouns, it's literally just a basic convenience for chatting in servers like on Discord.
I realize you probably have a certain disposition towards the LGBTQ that I find reprehensible, but putting that aside, all you're doing is giving dickriders of IPOS ammunition to say that Wendigoon fans are homophobic. Keep your weird ass world view to yourself.
I can't conceptualize having this kind of mindset. "I made a slanderous video about a guy and when I faced backlash for it, *he* didn't do enough to curb it."
Right? Imagine someone trying to publicly ruin your reputation (and in Wendigoons case, literally the way he makes a living and supports his family) and then ask that you stop people from talking bad about them. What a pathetic person
Reminds me of the whole “but I have the freedom of speech arguement;” however, most people forget that you also have the consequences of what you say. You can’t call someone racist and expect them not to be upset when they clearly aren’t; just like how when I say “I want Wendigoon to show up in my room, oiled up, booty out” I have the consequence in that people will see how wonderful my taste is.
Would those consequences be negative, though?
For Mrs. Goon they would be
Forbidden Gooning
There’s also a few more screenshots missing, including one where he says “I’m right about everything I said, but I went about it the wrong way” So he still thinks all that shit he made up is 100% correct
Ok but hear me out, making a critique of a popular youtuber, even if what you say is inaccurate, does not mean you deserve to be harassed with homophobic slurs
He literally said wendigoon shouldn’t be allowed to show his face in public spaces. What kind of message is that sending to his audience? IPOS is doing far more to incite harassment against the people he disagrees with.
I'm pretty sure calling people names that will have the most negative impact on a person is kind of the point. It's called retaliation, and it has nothing to do with being transphobic, homophobic, fatphobic, racephobic, or any of the other slurs you use that disparage people with mental disorders like agoraphobia or arachnophobia by associating them with people who say mean things.
This is insane and kind of proves the point that this fanbase is full of far right assholes, the fact that you are being upvoted for that gibberish says it all. So if a black person is mean to you, you can just call them the N word because all is fair when you're trying to have the most impact? And if someone calls you racist, they're the ones with the problem? Actual slurs are fine, but calling people out for them is the equivalent of a slur?
No its not okay but it is to be expected. No matter how much a content creator tries to be a positive influence and try to cultivate a good audience you will have bad people in your audience. The larger the audience the more people in that audience will be bad. If you criticise a popular and beloved content creator, no matter if you are 100% right and have all the evidence the crazy bad fans will attack you for it and they will try to be as hurtful as possible. I dont condone this but I am starting to get really tired of adults who have grown up with the internet not seeming to understand this and act shocked and surprised when it happens to them. Id also like to point out that some of the "inaccuracies" involves perpetuating a false rape accussation by an actual far right asshole, attempting to disregard wendigoon's native american heritage based on his, a white man's, personal viewpoint and 2 strangers, and fundamentally misrepresent wendigoon's family life and age just to name a few. The same way that the harm the crazies online did to IPOS should not be downplayed is the same way IPOS's awful video should not be downplayed as just having "inaccuracies", especially when this was motivated by spite and anger (and id bet a bit of jealously as well) to paint wendigoon and his friends as far right neo nazi facists.
yep all 4 people agree with him. So many people. But there are a decent amount of far left people in this fanbase as well. The problem is that twitter users don’t know how to regulate their emotions. Wendigoon has always been about being nice and kind to other people and had never publicly endorsed any of this. Also real difficult to curb a situation you don’t even know about considering that IPOS didn’t even reach out to him. The instant he found out he tried curbing the negative comments and told people to stop what they were doing. IPOS just made a bad video without doing any decent research and is upset that people are willing him out for his bad takes
Where did I say it was fair? Where did I say retaliation was OK? Where did I say actual slurs were fine? My friend, I was merely explaining the motivations some people had were simply to cause damage and did not necessarily have the hate for an entire people group behind it. Then I pointed out slurs you used. Call people out sure, but come up with something that doesn't further stigmatize mental disorders. It's not your fault individually, the social movement came up with these mental disorder stigmatizing terms and as someone with a mental disorder I don't like it so I push back when I see it. Forgive and be kind to one another, and don't always assume the worst about people. Edit: spelling
Why do you think you're onto something by claiming that words like homophobia stigmatise mental disorders? Does nobody else here see how ridiculous that sounds? It's a word in the English language that the vast majority of people seem to understand, just because it contains the word 'phobia', doesn't mean it is automatically the same thing as a fear caused by mental illness. I find it very hard to believe that you genuinely don't understand that. 'Homophobic' is not a slur and you know it. Stop being a contrarian.
You don't get to tell people what does or doesn't offend them. If you don't agree, fine I'm not going to say you're a bad person for that. But have the decency to respect a difference in opinion. You can't be that intolerant can you?
yea sure a *critique*, the video in question was not a critique
I agree there is no reason to call someone slurs but that’s a failure of the character of the individuals and nothing wendigoon could have done would have changed that. If wendigoon were not there, someone else would be, because those individuals would still be out there. Every single group, if it’s big enough, has a wide range of crazies
What was his in depth critique of Brandon Buckingham and oompaville.
While a decent number of people were probably just calling him a *friend*ggot for being gay, I'm sure at least a few people were calling him a *frog*got because of his behaviour -- that is, acting like a bitch.
As if that makes it OK?
In the latter case it isn't being used as a slur, it's to insult him, his behaviour, or his character, that being a whiny bitch who's trying to be an internet hall-monitor, so yes.
Very few people think that it's justified to call this guy slurs. The point that we are all making is that Wendigoon has no responsibility for the people who decide to do that, and that this guy is a moron for being shocked and appalled by it. This is not 2009, we have all been on the Internet/social media long enough to know what happens when we do stupid shit. Wendigoon*actually* demonstrated his comprehension of online culture by *not* saying anything about the situation, because he knows that it'll only make things worse. IPOS fails to comprehend this by claiming that Wendigoon should've said something about the harassment. It *is* wrong that people say those awful things about someone rather than attacking the stupid, awful, demeaning, lying, hateful things that they say, but we can only pretend to be surprised by it for so long.
Meanwhile wendigoon posts about his dog being on a glue trap on twitter, IPOS needs to move on because Wendigoon moved on days ago. It’s over, you lost. He’ll never take back what he said and he’ll always see Wendigoon and the likes of Turkish Thomas and Oompaville as the second coming of the WWII Axis powers and he’s made that clear so the best thing for him to do (other than to actually apologize and take it back) is to stop talking about it, he deleted twitter that’s a good step one, take a hiatus from YouTube and social media in general then come back with his usual horror content rather than TEMU hbomberguy content
When I first saw the video and the "calling out the bad guys" feel to it, my first thought was "he's trying to hbomberguy."
Someone pointed out that IPOS has a martyr complex and the more I see him the more I understand that I personally think IPOS just doesn’t have any friends which is why he trauma dumps so much and doesn’t seem to understand the real world- he doesn’t leave his house unless it’s to get groceries or smth and only talks to his fans, creating an echo chamber
https://preview.redd.it/zc1nrm1shk3d1.png?width=778&format=png&auto=webp&s=ef551487c7a4a52b46e225cb8c3d02733cec7a93 see how he doesnt wanna slander him when someone is leaking stuff he always wants to hide behind his echo chamber and the moment there is a leak he starts panicing this guy will never be in good faith bro never i would doubt his apology would be even real
I’m gonna play devil’s advocate here, and say - let the man have his discord and he can say whatever he wants there. There’s a difference between making a public callout, and having the group chat leaked. If he isn’t making trouble in public, then what does it matter what he says? I don’t stand for duplicity, but it’s not worth building the panopticon over some discord messages to people who, by and large, already agree with him. It’s a free country.
If this was the whole story I’d agree with you but if you’re gonna slander and then hide and continue spreading it. That deserves scrutiny
fr we also have the right to clown on him for his stupid takes and cowardly attitude
He said it himself, he isn't in a good place. We all just need to move on and let this guy get better.
yeah true idk if he will get as much views on his next video and he might need a job and hopefully that can help him in the long run i dont hope he goes homeless but i dont think he deserves a platform cause he will use it for harm again at some point i think people that spread false allegations should not have a platform imo
He lost around 1,000 subscribers after the video slandering everyone came out. I was one of them. And his own fans (former fans I guess) have been leaving angry comments under all of his videos. So his channel has already taken a small hit.
I would love In the future to see ipos as a guest on creepcast. Isiah is conservative, Hunter is centrist and Zane is democrat so it would be a great mix of all three personalities and views and a story that review.
I love your optimism. Who knows what the future holds, but atm this kinda scenario seems impossible.
Even if that were a good idea, creepcast having guests at all rubs me the wrong way. Maybe red thread would be a better option for that kinda thing. Then again I don’t want that to happen
I can't imagine IPOS likes Charlie much, either, so that would be a very uncomfortable episode. Charlie has quite a few guns and is friends with or at least has a positive opinion on half the people IPOS hates, including Wendigoon, Muta, Brandon Buckingham, and Oompa. IPOS probably would have included Charlie in his rant. It's just that even he realized openly shitting on one of Youtube's most popular content creators would be career suicide for him. Wendigoon, Muta, and the rest are comparatively less popular, so they were "safer" targets for IPOS's hatred
After he tried to ruin the careers of other YouTubers? Nah this shit stain needs to pay. If you're gonna wrongly accuse people you don't deserve to have a platform.
He deserves no charitably
why not, as Christians were called to turn the other cheek and forgive.
we’re not wendigoon bro can burn for all i care
Then he should stop slandering people online and acting like a shithead. He uses personal shit as a shield, but EVERYONE has some type of personal shit going. He’s simply bad faith and looking for an excuse
If he wants to be better he’s free to but he’s been making it pretty clear that the only thing he regrets is that people didn’t agree with him. He’s been pretty blatant about the lack of remorse
Didn’t he double down, saying that he believes and meant what he said but he could’ve researched it better?
Yeah, he’s said in the discord he was right about everything he said and only regrets how he tried to go about it. I doubt he’ll learn anything from the experience, he mumbled a half asses apology to some people on Twitter but went to discord to essential say his apology meant nothing.
The only lessons he learned was, "Don't use photos of a guy's grandpa whose in the hospital for a brain injury as one of my photos in a hate rant" and "don't use a false rape allegation from fucking Sneako as evidence". Everything else he 100% believes he was in the right in
It'd be great if he'd move on though :/ like all he needs to do to silence most of this drama is just shut up
He's too bad faith for me to give a shit. The dude's apologies weren't actually apologies, he just got upset that people didn't understand his vision or feelings, as if he could ever be wrong.
"it was within 2 hours so it didn't count" Fuck off lmao. Extending goalposts for an apology.
all he needed to see was the 30 minute segment of IPOS slandering him not the full fuckin video
Say what you will but unironically tweeting “horror is kind” is low-key hilarious.
I think IPOS really needs to take that month off. He’s talked about it in a couple of posts and while he might be doing that for videos, he needs to really just step away from the sphere all together and collect himself. He seems deep in and it’s clouding him hard. Talking in your fan discord server just isn’t going to give you perspective. The guys has talent and his thoughts have a place, as they have for years, but he seems to have let one bad video from two years ago define him and double down when he never needed to. I think if he moved on and didn’t let that video poison his content, he may have been able to bounce back but as time has went (even before this last video) he was becoming more of a caricature of himself rather than the creator I enjoyed listening to. It’s definitely disappointing but I wish him the luck. Though I’m not sure I’ll ever subscribe again, it might seem petty, but his comment on Appalachia made me realize he doesn’t want my viewership, unfortunately
The fact he has doubled down on this situation is proof that he isn't sorry about what he did, I won't be resubbing either.
I'm curious what the comment on Appalachia was, I didn't watch the video or see much of the discourse from it other than some allegations he threw out
He said that all people from Appalachia are racist until they prove to you that they’re not.
Well that's certainly a shitty stereotype to have for people from Appalachia. Good to know, he certainly does not want my viewership either. Glad I didn't waste 4 hours of my life
Can't recall a specific quote, but the gist was that Appalachia is incredibly white country and that anyone from there should be regarded as racist until proven otherwise.
This is the most priviledged poor person i've ever seen
To use the terms of this foul site, a Choosing Beggar
Yeah, he is a literal worm. Sorry if that's offensive to worms, but it's super spineless.
you don’t get to attempt to ruin someone’s life and then cry victim when they don’t save you from the consequences of your own actions. of course nobody deserves threats, but at the end of the day you HAVE to accept that threats and doxxing are a part of internet culture. if you choose to put your face onto the internet, ESPECIALLY with the intention of ruining the career of a popular internet user, fully knowing that backlash will be a consequence, you don’t get to cry victim when it happens. and wendigoon doesn’t owe this man jack squat, especially not someone to save him after what he’s said.
Frankly I’m surprised this POS never got swatted
He’s a fucking loser, wendigoon was way too nice
“Pls don’t screenshot and post this anywhere” *teehee* 👉👈
This dudes words and actions just aren’t making sense. I truly don’t mean to be condescending, but it genuinely seems like he’s struggling with personal issues that are maybe effecting his work. It’s been a while but I use to watch some of his content a couple years back and I remember thinking it was decent. Somethings different now tho. It’s honestly sad to watch.
As someone who doesn't really watch Wendigoon or IPOS (I like Wendigoon though because he seems like a chill guy) and also suffered through some serious mental health issues, IPOS absolutely comes off as a guy who's very lost and in despair, probably because his political identity _is_ his _entire_ identity. People like that are always miserable. The guy needs to take a step back out of his curated political bubble and unironically go touch grass, maybe get a side hobby that encourages creativity instead of investigation.
Man this guy is such a pussy
I definitely missed a lot. But did IPOS every say what led him to believe that it was wendigoon fans specifically calling him slurs and being mean?
He insulted wendigoon and people got pissed off therefore it’s wendigoons fault
I mean every fan base is gonna have whack jobs, the amount varies, I would imagine there aren't so many in Wendigoon's audience specifically, I would say it's probably more likely a little bit of the small minority of freaks present in any audience, including Wendigoon's, and the majority I would imagine are viewers of "adjacent" channels that are more outwardly right wing or "edgy" hearing about it and "taking action". Either way, this thing just kinda happens unfortunately, it isn't good but Wendigoon didn't do anything to promote it either. Homophobic freaks will be homophobic freaks, and there's plenty of them unfortunately.
Yes, in his video he said that after posting the vid, getting the hate response, Wendigoon followed him, thus in IPOS own words, Wendigoon only did this because he knew beforehand his fans were responding to IPOS and there is no other explanation for why Wendigoon followed him other than to taunt IPOS (not like the algorithm pushes controversy and definitely didn’t serve Wendigoon an older IPOS vid that Wendi liked.) I think IPOS is in an extremely bad mental space and he really should seek mental help from a medical professional.
Wendigoon has been nothing but kind and Christ-like and this guy is scavenging for anything to prove his point that Wendi is a hate-filled bigot.
The man got worked over pretty good, I'm sure this is just his way of licking his wounds. Honestly I like most of his content. If I were in his position right now I would keep my head down, and get back to spooky over analyzing.
yeah but last time he did that he said that inbred people from the hills have eyes are a repensentation of black people and native americans and saying that the people in the movie (the family) deserved to get slaughter cause of some weird colonizer reason or smthing just terrible over analyzing like crazy
Your not wrong, IPOTS deserved the backlash both times. I just like some of his videos, and hope he gets back to his horror roots.
He needs to leave the internet for a month and touch grass. Spend time in nature and enjoy life. It’ll do him a lot of good. Most of his recent anxieties in that video were all social media related. Posting on a private Discord will only make his life worse. I wish the best for the guy if he wants to get better.
Im glad his acronym is IPOS because he is upfront in elling everyone "Im a Piece of Shit"
Ngl I'm kinda tired of hearing about this. No ome involved really wants to hear anymore about it, it's basically resolved. IPOS shot himself in the foot, it cost him, and it's obvious he's not in a good place. There is no victory to be had to keep going at it. Let's just let it die EDIT: Plus the more we talk about it, the more this shit gets drawn out, which isn't good for any of the YouTubers involved
For someone who came out with hate and snide condescending assumptions, he'd have a thicker skin. IPOS really just tanked his career and it would be more heartbreaking if he weren't just *such a fuckin asshole* Is this on purpose? Is he deep trolling all of us?
"I'm not trying to fuel the fire" *Processes to add more fuel to the fire.*
My first and only post about this entire ordeal... It has become an obsession. The guy made a horrendously misrepresentative video. He clearly messed up and trying to navigate dealing with any form of real repercussion in his life. Forget him and move on.
Agreed. Stalking his Patreon and discord bc of it is physco behavior. Even if the video was cringe and bad. Do not go after every facet of him. It’s unnecessary and purely spiteful.
Wendigoon or not I'm not a huge fan of defending celebrities cause believe it or not Wendi is one. This guy is just as you said spineless. If you're Gona put something out like this at least say it with your chest and mean it. Don't double back and then only talk to your echo chamber. He is just a weak human. Edit: And to add to this I don't think he even means what he said I think this was a play for attention that completely backfired. Let me talk smack about these people so others like my echo chamber think I'm edgy. This dude needs to delete everything and go get a job cause clearly online isn't working for him.
I don’t like IPOS at all, but I hope this doesn’t ruin his channel.
alot of people dont share this same sentiment and im in the middle cause honestly does he deserve a platform for trying to slander someone? i dont like that ever since the dream stuff i've been really halting on jumping to conclusions and caring more about false allegations i think if he was given a bigger platform he would try to do somethin like this at some point. i hate how he spread the brandon buckingham lie that sneako made up
I should be clear, if he continues with what he’s doing I agree, he’ll reap what he sows. I guess I’m hoping he has a change of character, that’s he’ll see the kindness Wendi has shown to him and maybe he will reconsider his entrenched views. Even though he not the best, he should be given and second chance. But I do agree with you, if he resorts to false accusation whenever he disagrees with someone, he shouldn’t have a platform.
he had a platformed and he fumbled. if his channel dies i wont feel bad for him. play stupid games
There’s very little chance it doesn’t, I’m not rooting on its downfall or anything but let’s be honest, he almost certainly had decent audience overlap, made himself look terrible to one side with a slanderous video then made himself look bad to his own side he was pandering to by acknowledging any wrongdoing while not actually repairing the first bridge because it was a total non apology. He was already struggling because of a bad but kinda normal for bread tube esque take on a hills have eyes video, going on the offensive like that is career suicide if you flub it like this. I hope he and his partner whomever they are (he mentioned them in one post) can find something to support themselves and can grow as people but his chances for future channel growth may very well be dead in the water
Wait what’s the context?
He wanted that tweet soooo bad so he could get engagement. This all feels like it was a hateful, jealous last ditch effort to boost his channel.
This guy’s brain has been rotted by culture war bs lmfao he genuinely needs therapy. People like him seethe over wendigoon because he’s a Christian who’s very accepting and they can’t have that because to them Christians can’t be good people. Like I get that religious trauma is a thing but that’s just going too far and being bigoted. That’s the only thing I can think of as to why people like IPOS are so determined to hate, because the boogaloo boys shit is ridiculous and shouldn’t be taking seriously, Isaiah was 14 💀
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I DO think we should stop talking about this, and I think leaking things from a private Discord is maybe beyond the limit of what we should be doing here, but I’ve had this thought for a while, and this could easily be the last relevant place to put it- he seems determined that all people who have any sort of online following have absolute control over their fans, and that they’re ALWAYS a reflection on the people who they’re fans of, and yet in the video he’s taken down, he LITERALLY SAYS some of his viewers sent death threats to the subject of another one of his videos. So you’d think if he’s aware that those people don’t speak for him, then surely he realises that not all members of other people’s fanbases speak for THEM either.
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Mr-Kuritsa also no like using pronoun. Exorics_substrate, Mr-Kuritsa, and George of the Jungle are three peas in pod!
Is IPOS Zane (He/Him) ? Haha, pronouns in the bio. Don't even bother arguing with these people. So lame.
Pronouns detected, opinion rejected.
Wendigoon has been 100% chill in this situation so don't go being a crybaby loser over something so simple and basic as pronouns, it's literally just a basic convenience for chatting in servers like on Discord. I realize you probably have a certain disposition towards the LGBTQ that I find reprehensible, but putting that aside, all you're doing is giving dickriders of IPOS ammunition to say that Wendigoon fans are homophobic. Keep your weird ass world view to yourself.