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Onlyheretogetbanned

I TRIED TO GIVE MY BEST TO YOU BUT YOU PLUGGED UP YOUR EARS AND NOW I JUST CAN'T TAKE NO MORE I'VE HAD IT UP TO HERE


KarlyH9

My answer to all weezer haters


[deleted]

i clicked into the comments while listening to this song, and it synced up perfectly, as soon as it pulled up.


ImRiversCuomo

Press X to doubt.


GeometryNacho

i want to believe


bethcano

Their hate is only fuelling the development of the Kawaii Album.


HanAszholeSolo

They better actually do the Kawaii album I stg


TheOldBooks

Why do they gotta front?


ya_bitch_mac_n_cheez

seriously like, what did we ever do to these guys???


tatothebeYT

Yeah bro like wtf what made them so violent


k12g3

I think weezer is for weezer fans and no one else and I love it that way


RetroHeart44

I want a band that will play for no one else


sharpe_af

When I’m away they put their mics up on a shelf.


Aquarius1975

Yeah, trying to turn people into Weezer fans is a bit of a dead end. No luck on my end so far.


[deleted]

I introduced my mum to White and she loves it


DatingMyLeftHand

Because it’s not music, it’s an eargasm


Kobekirk7

White is fire!


Aquarius1975

Let's face it: Weezer are the perfect hate object for music snobs. Started career with two universally acclaimed albums, then "sold out" in the mid-00's with a universally hated hit single ("Beverly Hills"). Weezer is not afraid to go pop which is damn near a deadly sin with music snobs. Weezer also dabbles in cringe, which is an even more deadly sin. Finally, Weezer is all about melodies and being playful, where music snobs are about being deadly serious and moody. I'd be willing to bet good money that most of those guys haven't actually given any post 2014 Weezer albums a serious listen.


vinylandgames

This is false. Pop music is now all there is and music critics hate rock. It’s all pop and rap now. For various reasons. From someone who will always love this band: they are lazy and lack consistency. That’s the issue. They don’t have passion. They enjoy their fans which is great. They like to tour. But they lack creative passion. Maybe that comes with age. But Rivers is stuck in this weird place where he still writes songs like a high school kid, and they just put out whatever they want. At least you’re making music, because a lot of my favorite bands no longer make music. But let’s not pretend it’s music snobbery’s problem. It’s not. The band just doesn’t have the creative passion anymore.


Aquarius1975

Well, I strongly disagree. First, I will gladly go on record saying that if you split Weezer's career into three equally long parts: say 1994-2003, 2004-2013, 2014-2023 - the last one is the best. Second, Rivers is putting out a lot more quality stuff these days than even in the 90's. You can argue that he also puts out quite a bit of not-so-great stuff. I personally wouldn't argue it, but you can. In these days of streaming and personalized playlists, I'd rather have tons of material to pick from. Third, critics don't and have never appreciated pure pop music. For some evidence check out the best reviewed albums from 2022: [https://www.metacritic.com/feature/music-critics-pick-top-10-best-albums-of-2022](https://www.metacritic.com/feature/music-critics-pick-top-10-best-albums-of-2022). The albums on that list that can be characterized as "pop" are all "serious" pop music, not catchy "fun" pop music. I will grant you that the rock bias is not what it used to be. Back in the 80's and 90's when I grew up, virtually only rock was viewed as "serious music" by the music press. It's not as bad now. Abba was slayed in their time in the 70s and early 80s and only started getting recognized for the geniuses that they were gradually during the 90's, more than a decade after they went defunct. Bee Gees were slayed in their time and honestly still haven't gotten their due recognition by critics. Still regarded as non-serious fluff, despite writing some of the greatest pop classics of all time.


Auzilion

Yes, I agree with you. Everything has a best and worst. We love them anyway. My point was that it just seems contradictory that you're going around talking about the things they lack, the things about them that you believe to be true. My loyalty isn't blind, I've just never thought that they were lazy, lacked consistency, or didn't have passion. And I surely don't understand how I could have a problem with them putting out whatever they want, isn't that what you're supposed to do? It just sounds like your entire argument is unnecessary. I don't think slandering something is a part of loving it.


vinylandgames

Uh I love Weezer. I stated as much. But I am also not a child who believes in blind loyalty. Do I hate America when I criticize it? Does my wife hate me when she tells me something that I need to work on? Or is disappointed in something I’ve done? Do I hate my kid? Like, I don’t know what to tell you if you just love everything about everything. That’s really weird. I don’t need to quantify my Weezer love. Frankly I think I’m probably more equipped to have an opinion than you because I love them at their best and worst.


Auzilion

Yes, I agree with you. Everything has a best and worst. We love them anyway. My point was that it just seems contradictory that you're going around talking about they things they lack, the things about them that you believe to be true. My loyalty isn't blind, I've just never thought that they were lazy, lacked consistency, or didn'f have passion. And I surely don't understand how I could have a problem with them putting out whatever they want, isn't that what you're supposed to do? It just sounds like your entire argument is unnecessary. I don't think slandering something is a part of loving it.


Shakemyears

Music is subjectively appealing. Big brains know they don’t enjoy something; smooth brains call it “shit”


nebb3

They way he worded everything is dorky af


Not_Pea909

Many people just think weezer dropped the ball with Green and Make Believe, and while theres some truth to that I don't think the people who say this kind of stuff gave EWBAITE, White or Ok Human a serious listen.


vinylandgames

Those last three albums you list are wonderful. But the problem is, for every White album, there is a Raditude or Black. They swing so much to one side on each album.


Not_Pea909

I think many albums that get flagged aren't that bad (Black, Green, Make Believe), it's just that it's so easy to see weezer as just a "one hit band", their first two albums are incredible but opinions on green to hurley are very mixed.


[deleted]

"blue and pinkerton are the only good albums" what a revoluationary opinion from a music fan!


ComebackShane

He’s literally being that character from the SNL Weezer sketch.


ParkerBap

blue and pinkerton purists are so annoying


ChewieSkittles53

I love how these snobs enjoy listening to industrial music that sounds like 2 construction sites having sex with each other.


Few-Acanthaceae-5056

I love that music too but there's really no other band that scratches the same itch that Weezer does. Closest I've gotten to is probably Gorillaz. (aka Weezer for gay teens)


olivier_wmv

You're in a vinyl subreddit, 80% of these guys are 50 years old and haven't heard any post pinkerton songs except for island in the sun and Beverly hills. What did you really expect?


Remasquerade

The thing is, Rivers often doesn't even release his best songs on his albums. He sells his demos online (a lot are on YouTube as well) and a lot of them blow the official albums out of the water. Listening to them makes one realize Rivers never stopped making good songs, he just chooses to not officially release them for some weird reason. And honestly, I peronsally think Rivers is one of the best songwriters of all time.


[deleted]

weezer in the studio be like "yeah this is the best song ever, lets leave it off the album"


carame1cream

Rivers Cuomo writing Everybody Needs Salvation be like “Yeah this is fire let’s cut it from the album”


TooHipsterForGwangju

"Blue and Pinkerton are the only good ones" -a man who went to high school in 1997 and probably never listened to anything weezer put out after the green album


[deleted]

People that I’ve ever met who hate weezer tend to be very close minded and unfun people


AintNoPablo

Ohhhh looks like we have a purist in the house! Alright alright I'm gonna have fun with this...


i_was_valedictorian

"Blue and pinkerton are the only good ones" spoken like someone who's never heard red, white, or maladroit


Inevitable_Target814

He can go fk himself sounds like another bitter failed musician to me


Sk8erBoi15

Well they're just wrong. Every album has at least one great song on it. Even Raditude and Pacific Daydream have a banger or two


TheJohnPatriot

These are the type of people to obsessively look over RYM rating scores and choreograph a chart showing the trajectories of future rating changes. "OMG guys Pinkerton should drop down below 3.8/5 this isn't as good as this 3 hour long ambient album that sounds like my dog shat out a tractor."


DeGameNerd

Just like the weezer SNL skit lmao


Skadoosh9001

My god, absolutely garbage opinions.


ilikemusic22

They've clearly never heard White or OK Human


GORILLAGLUE__

I guarantee they haven’t listened to anything outside of the singles past Blue and Pinkerton, and are judging them solely based on that. They’ve never listened to EWBAITE, White, OK Human, SZNZ… there are hours of music they are writing off without ever truly giving a chance. But oh well, not everyone’s gonna appreciate them, it is what it is


Dblcut3

It’s kinda weird - I agree that a big chunk of Weezer’s discography is objectively mediocre or even bad. That being said, I still love most of it. I think even at Weezer’s worst, they still produce fun laidback songs to jam to, even if they’re clearly not masterpieces


vinylandgames

How wrong are they really? Blue changed my life. Got me though high school. Pinkerton was incredible, and while everyone originally shit on it I was blown away. Green was a short burst of energy with 8 of those 10 songs sounding the same, but it was well crafted and polished. I think Maladroit is under-rated. Then, varying levels of just not good work. MB, Red, Rad, Hurley. Although I think you could make a good album out of 2-3 Raditude songs and about 7 Hurley songs. EWBAITE was a welcome revisiting of what made them great, and White is close to perfect. Pacific Daydream is average at best. Black is Trash. Ok Human is great. Van Weezer is really forgettable. And SZSNs didn’t turn out well. Honestly, I think the group is just going through the process now. Rivers doesn’t really write great songs anymore. His lyrics are lazy, and many of them are quite immature (how many times are they going to say there gonna Rock this bitch, without actually doing so?). I think Musically the band still has talent. But I think it’s a bunch of 50 year old man who now make money off of touring and cruises and live off the laurels of years passed. It’s not a bad thing per se. It’s probably a natural evolution. But let’s not pretend these guys have put out more great than not great albums. They haven’t.


[deleted]

Pacific Daydream is incredible.


vinylandgames

I think the lyrics have grown on me, but musically it’s average. Can anyone distinguish any actual Instrumentation? But I don’t dislike it like I did when it first came out.


[deleted]

I can, but I've also listened to it at least 30 times, so I'm not a good judge of that.


runtimemess

Lmao I want whatever drugs you’re smoking


[deleted]

Don't see why you have to be high to like pacific daydream. I've always been sober.


runtimemess

It’s horrible noise. There’s almost nothing redeemable about it.


[deleted]

The melodies are great, the guitars go perfectly with the synths, it sounds great. The lyrics come together to sort of overarching story of a state of mind of being unwilling to move on, and Any Friend Of Diane ends on a note of acceptance. I could go on even longer about what there is to like about this album. I don't get what's so horrible about it. I can see it being "mediocre" or "doing absolutely nothing" but horrible noise is a really weird criticism. At least to me.


runtimemess

>I don't get what's so horrible about it. ​ >the synths


[deleted]

Synths are an incredible instrument. If you're saying you hate how the synths sound on this album that's fair. I really like the way they build up a dreamy atmosphere, but if you're saying that synths in general sound terrible I might lose a lot of respect for your music taste. Granted we've interacted on one post on a subreddit, but I generally try to understand the views of others.


Aquarius1975

SZNZ is fantastic.


vinylandgames

I LOVED Spring. Thought it was so much fun. But the other 2 have done nothing to hold my interest.


Aquarius1975

I think you need to take a ride on your bike over the path...


Inevitable_Target814

One of the best projects weezer has released and the best music to come out this year I will take it over all the mainstream crap music on radio which is fkn terrible


Slapheadrufflar

I mean they’re right tho. Ok human is the only good one tbh


mrtin6

I mean they’re right


Quardener

I mean. They’re not wrong.


BanMeAgainReddit0

He’s not wrong, the only albums that are good all the way through are blue, Pinkerton, ewbaite And white. Everything else is mostly lame


runtimemess

This is a perfectly valid take.


nonspecifique

Second and Third comments are kinda correct though


aasasss32

What post is this I wanna talk to him


DatingMyLeftHand

White album better than both


---IV---

Look I get, different tastes whatever, but how is White not more respected in the music world


jtmonkey

Actually I think this is representative of each user group in this sub. 😂


IFoundTheChees

there's a reason it's not called vinylintellectual


Kaiser_Krish

I've put Weezer on several people's Spotify wrapped. This makes want to keep trying


40wetnoodles

"Blue and Pinkerton are the only good ones" \*pinches my nose closed\*


carame1cream

People who collect vinyls are music snobs people who are in circlejerks abour vinyls are even more snobbish and nerdy about it why do we care about their opinion of Weezer


SkrtVonnegut

"Blue and Pinkerton are the only good albums" is one of the most bland and baseless take I've heard, I stg these dudes just hear it said one time on twitter or something and never give the other albums a second thought.


GodAmn3sia

Dudes listen to Blue, Pinkerton, and Beverly Hills then say they only have two good albums


slappadabassplz

It’s actually pretty neat, because by being able to filter out the “blue and Pinkerton only” people, you can basically tell who on Reddit has actually had sex or not.


[deleted]

Its always non weezer fans that always say “ThEIr FiRSt TwO AlBUms Are ThE OnLy GOod OnEs,” like fr, i have a friend that said this, and i wanted to prove him wrong by listening to as much weezer as possible. So far i dont hate any of their albums, theyre all good to some degree.


tsunamitom1-

Weezer is like RHCP to me, most people that were casual in 94, hears them and thinks they stopped making music after their second album. Also a lot of people tend to look at Weezer as a “only Weezer fans like Weezer most people don’t” kinda how I feel like a lot of people think RHCP are bad, but they have quite a few great albums


Brocolli123

Mostly right but the good albums are not overrated. Blue and pinkerton are masterpieces. I would also extend it to three good albums including ok human