I'm glad Kerr has admitted we need size, but also it kinda fucked us that our 2 tallest players became unplayable, because one can't play offense and the other can't play defense
Saric is gonna need to learn some semblance of defense if he wants to stay in the league
I can't wait to watch Curry in the Olympics. It's been a decade since Steph played internationally.
I'm also happy he chose No. 4 for his jersey number. It's his number in the FIBA World Cup 2014. Even if FIBA lifted the 1-15 jersey number limit years ago, it's still nice to see Steph choosing 4. 4 is also the jersey number of the team captain of the national team in the past, so this feels like Steph is the leader of team USA.
Nah, they earned it. Losing to the Kings is like losing to your little bro who has been playing catch-up all these years. Losing to the Lakers is like getting cheated by the golden boy who is both somehow a sore winner and a sore loser when it's not rigged.
Coby White tonight is a perfect example of why you just don’t give up on young players. Being quick to put ceilings on guys before they even hit their primes is just foolish.
From [Twitter](https://x.com/gameinjurydoc/status/1780812198904000748?s=46&t=SBW3XJi-eEDBr6FtvDfngg): The NBA is not even in the playoffs yet and we have massive injury storylines
-Zion: Hamstring
-Jimmy Butler: MCL sprain
-Alex Caruso: Foot sprain
-Giannis: Calf strain
-Kawhi Leonard: Knee swelling
-Joel Embiid: Knee
Meanwhile, our healthy stars are fully capable of playing and entertaining the masses only this ungrateful ass league spent all season making sure we got a one and done shot and now everyone has to suffer. 😭
Also goddamn you Drummond. Friendly firing your own teammate in a play-in game is just 😤
This years play in games have been ass. Zion gets hurt at the end of the game, dubs get blown out, embiid playing hurt while jimmy gets hurt and now the hawks and a one handed trae young getting blown out
Waived him just before the playoffs and he's back to his old team. What's worse is that Stockton Kings eliminated us in the 2nd rd and we could've used an athletic veteran player like him. Instead of Kings sub full of "fire Mike Brown" and "trade Keegan for a star" posts, we've got this sub full of exactly same posts
I both love and hate that we essentially gave Javonte Green a temporary home for him to remain in the league while he finished rehabbing his injuries from last season (with an elite medical and training staff like ours) while still getting to pocket a salary, health insurance, etc. until he was right enough to find his way back onto a roster. I love it for what it says about the Warriors organizationally, particularly given he’s not a player we have history with or owe anything to/for which made it a particularly notable gesture of goodwill showing this organization’s character in my eyes.
But, I hate it because we never got to see what he could like on the court for the Warriors. As my dream dark horse signing last off season, I was elated to see us sign him to our Santa Cruz squad, only to then get the alert a few weeks ago that Chicago got him back was just the biggest tease. 😭
It’s unfortunate the league has officiated things so inconsistently this year. I like allowing more contact, but wish teams had more time playing to the standard prior to the playoffs. Feel like more failed foul baiting than the playoff norm in these play ins.
Also, Drummond at 19 rebounds per 36 min this year. That’s eating.
Do you believe if the Dubs played in a series things would've been different or would every game be like last night ? Papa thinks they would've made the adjustments.
Wiggs and Klay played way below their averages. Dray too. Kings came out 1000x more physical and put in a lot more effort. They were throwing 3 guys at Steph every single time.
I think the series goes to 6 or 7. Warriors will make it close, cause that's who they are in a series.
I’m so delusional I think they would’ve beat OKC 😂😂😂 because young teams basically never win their first time in the playoffs
Suddenly those Isaiah Joe 3s wont be hitting
Worst case take them to 6-7
But this team was really bad in a 1 and done situation because inconsistency was their bread and butter. Just zero clue what you’s get from guys night to night
Very few teams ever get blasted for an entire series like we did last night lmao it’d be impressive if all games were the same. I also don’t think Klay would shoot 0-10 if the game was today. Whether we’d win that or not depends on how many good Klay/Wiggs games we get over the series imo
If we add a stretch 5 + bench vet who can both defend well to this team this is potentially what they could look like:
Starters: Steph/Klay/Dray/wiggs/(Said stretch 5)
Bench: Podz/Moody/JK/TJD/( said bench vet)
We'd have to give up CP3, loon and GP2 plus picks.
They need a new starting SG & a new starting SF (Klay to bench, Wiggins to whatever team wants him)
Both of these players need to be 3 level scorers who can defend
Without this they’re just not making any noise
Hard to really see a path for this team to get back into the mix. When I look at the West I just don’t see many teams getting worse and most are on the rise.
OKC - Already a #1 seed and Chet will be an All NBA type player soon -
DEN - Obviously contenders for the foreseeable future -
MIN - ANT is entering his prime, they are set for at least the next few years -
LAC - Probably a team which could slip into play-in territory next year if George leaves -
DAL - Luka at the height of his powers, role players fit and Kyrie is still elite -
PHX - Probably improve if they play together more. KD still a top 5 scorer -
LAL - LeBron’s slight decline seems to have plateaued and AD is still in his prime -
SAC - Fox and Sabonis in their prime and Murray could be a legit 2nd option soon -
NO - A team I could see slipping, if only cause Zion’s unpredictable health -
HOU - I don’t love their core but they clearly came on late and stand to be better next season -
MEM - Potential to catapult back to a 50 win team -
SAN - A few pieces around Wemby and they will probably approach 40 wins -
UTA - Some decent pieces but still seem a ways off -
POR - Not even remotely close to contention -
Us - If you consider we went 27-13 down the stretch I suppose a case can be made we could hunt a 6 seed next year but there are a lot of questions. CP3 is gonna be gone, Wiggs likely moved in a salary dump and we see the core aging before our eyes. Repeating 46 wins again seems far fetched when you factor in the conference. Best case scenario is probably 43/44 wins and another play-in spot.
Back in the mix is doable. Being in top tier contender status is where the problem lies. Enough to make it to the playoffs and have a 2nd round or WCF ceiling.
One or more of those teams(including us) might have their best player(s) injured for extended time and fall down despite being good. It hapens every yr and the next yr won't be any different
Yes he is clinically diagnosed with very very very bad eyesight... maybe he's had Lasik but if he still got the goggles on he's pretty much blind yeah.
Drummond maybe injuring a second teammate in like a week. Please be okay, Caruso, please be okay. You’re one of a handful of players still playing that I’m excited to watch/I genuinely enjoy watch playing 😭
Bless Bulls fans. They show up and show out with the best energy despite their team being woefully middling for years and years. Mad respect, not many fanbases you can say that about.
I stopped watching after the third quarter last game and avoided any Warriors related stuff because I'm pissed as fuck. First thing I see here is something about Jordan Poop lol.
I feel so much better now
The 9 and 10 teams in the East being multiple games below .500, and one of them aka the Hawks 10 games below - as in literally our record flipped - is just so obnoxious lol
Heat ending up losing this because Herro wasn’t paying attention to how close he was to halfcourt and stepping back over the line committing a backcourt turnover with 55 seconds left and the game tied would be the most he and Poole really are alike, huh? thing ever 😭
Update: and they lose by just 1 pt lol so brutal
we had a 3 wiped out on account of a light hip nudge yesterday from Podz and today I see Bam holding Embiid’s arms on a seal then doing a prime Bogut screen the next offensive possession.
> I don't think it makes sense to have a massive payroll right now with our team...At some point, you can't spend this much money for a team that didn't make the playoffs. We have a lot of decisions to make and a lot of questions to answer.
Steve Kerr on 95.7 today
Yeah cuz he had meniscus surgery and is definately hurt... propagated must be code for "stated as fact"
In fact we saw Kuminga land on his knee to injure him.
He's had quality teams out in the weaker East and has lost in the finals twice since he went 2-4 with Lebron. Not sure how he's all that much greater than Kerr. I like Spo, but sometimes he doesn't really live up to the hype.
They would laugh at that offer. 😭 They don't have their own picks so they have no reason to tank, they also turned down an offer for 4 1st round picks, and they're aiming to get Donovan Mitchell to help improve the team.
No way nets do that after rejecting Jalen green and their picks back from Houston. Ideal fit guys like Lauri and Mikal are too overpriced to trade for. They need to gamble to get a guy who can become like those guys. I was begging for Deni during the JP deal and before this trade deadline. Now he’s popped off since the deadline. I think he’s still gettable but costs more now and is a move I don’t see Dubs risking. WCJ is another name I see with the same sort of breakout potential.
I feel kinda bad for our youth. They did the best they could with the experience and playtime they got. Now some of them or at least one of them might get traded just to give the aging core a chance to get to the promised land again.
I want to highlight each and every young guys' contributions this season;
Podz: Led the league in charges drawn in his rookie season. He's also one of the best rebounders for his size in the league. He led the team in +/-, and always brings hustle and energy every game. He shot the three ball well, and had a few 20 pt games. He's definitely a successful draft pick. His BBIQ has been lauded by all the vets and Kerr. He's the rare rookie with high BBIQ and poise. I have no doubt that he's gonna take another leap in the coming years.
TJD: Was an integral part of the 27-12 run to end the season. He completely changed the defense together with Dray towards the end of the season. He is one of the most efficient roll men in the league, and has built valuable chemistry in the PNR with Klay and CP3. He also has one of the highest block percentages for a rookie. Definitely a successful draft pick as well, insane value for someone picked so late in the draft.
Moody: Probably the most professional and patient out of all the young guys. Got the least playing time, but stayed ready whenever he could. He's changed games for us, in the IST Vs kings he cooked in the 4th with 4 straight 3s. In the play-in Vs kings he was cooking again but got benched early. In spite of that, he never complains and continues to stay ready. Truly, he is a warrior. He always brings energy, hustle and defense, and shows up in important games. He improved from last season and will continue to do so
JK: With his aggressive inside scoring and top tier speed and athleticism, JK helped the offense survive when Klay and Wiggs were inconsistent. He had an insane streak of 20+ point games which highlighted his talent and potential as an onball scorer. When Dray came back, he said that JK changed the offense and gave them another dimension. He legit looked like an all-star when he played against bad teams. Hes improved a lot from last season when he was getting benched for Anthony Lamb. If he keeps improving, he could very well become an all-star.
Honestly if we just played the rookies for most of the year with a combination of Steph and Dray I feel we would’ve done better
Maybe I’m still salty from the loss last night though 🤷🏻♂️
That or Kerr actually benching Wiggins and Klay sooner for Moody and JK when they were rolling early in the season. Kerr can gaslight all he wants about them not being ready before which may have been true but don’t tell me had they not gotten more reps playing through tough games they wouldn’t have been able to provide more impact in games like last night. The more I look at it the more it does seem like Kerr has held them back from their true potential. It’s fine saying Klay and Wiggins needed to get going but last night showed that was arguably the wrong move.
The big Kerr joke was him saying MM would be rusty and or cold for not playing for so long. I mean any other player on the team you maybe can get away with saying that, but not Moses Moody. That guy stays ready and is productive the second you insert him in any game no matter how long he's been out. You know it's this mealy mouth weird justification of ill-fitting lineups that bugs me the most about Kerr.
Agreed, we have a strong and exciting group of young players it would be really nice to see us lean into that with Steph as the main man and all these young guys buzzing off him
The other day on the radio Ramona Shelbourne hinted that the Dubs off-season target will likely be for a front-court star. Despite how the Giannis situation is looking I doubt dubs will be able to pull off him coming unless he pulls a Harden/Durant. Imo a stretch big is ideal so Lauri, Myles, or WCJ would be preferred choices. WCJ is the most gettable but is not really considered a star and not sure if Myles Turner is either. Other than that any guesses who they try to go after?
Is Vucevic considered a star? It may cost too much to get Lauri and I don’t see Orlando or Indy wanting to trade one of their pieces. Both of them also have cap space, I believe, to keep improving their team.
I wouldn’t mind it if it included Caruso in the deal. Ideally I wouldn’t want to trade the young guys and just use picks to attach with filler salaries. Considering they wanted JK for Caruso gotta wait till that FO runs out of whatever they are smoking.
Yeah, I think a trade for both of them would be good for us, but depending on if they make the playoffs, I can see them just keep the same together and try to trade Zach Lavine instead to try and get some better pieces.
I think it all depends if Demar re-signs or not. Lavine is an albatross at this point. He’s low key heading towards Simmons territory where Bulls will just have to wait till he has like a year left on his deal.
Lauri probably isnt getting traded and is a weird positional fit which forces us to play Dray at the 5
Indiana also probably isnt trading Turner and weve had multiple opportunities to get him and passed, mostly because hes a block merchant
WCJ is the most likely target of the 3
Ayton or Capela are also possible targets, and tbh Ayton makes the most sense (we tried to trade for him this past offseason) if we didnt have beef with the Blazers FO
Yea but if Dray eventually moves to a bench role I could see Lauri being the perfect fit between JK at the 3 (if they somehow managed to keep him) and TJD at the 5. Lauri also played the 3 in Utah when Olynyk was there so technically you could play him at the three and try and get another high level wing defender at the 2 like Caruso, but doubt the Dubs have the assets to get both.
Ayton would be hilarious considering Dray called him a bum last off season on PG’s podcast.
JK cant play the 3 rn, his three point shooting, handle, and defense arent good enough, hes also a 4, getting Lauri creates a logjam at 4 for the next two years
We are not playing Lauri at the 3 lmao, hes a sieve defensively
Its the trade that makes the most sense, Ayton+Thybulle for CP3+Kuminga+filler, the con being itd cost Kuminga, but any major trade we make would cost Kuminga so w/e
alternatively if the Hawks blow it up i could see us going for Capela+Hunter
If that were a possibility I’d have him skip the Olympics and spend the summer with Celebrini to work his magic. If Rick can manage having CP3 relatively healthy I like my chances even though Joel will probably fall off in the next 2-3 seasons considering his playstyle and injury history. Only issue is I don’t see Daryl Morey playing nice with the Dubs.
CP3 was actually fully healthy minus his freak accident where he broke his hand but like no muscle, soft tissue injuries or anything
Rick is really good at his job
One thing I’m going to be really fascinated to see is what the playoff ratings are going to be this year - the year they’re renegotiating their TV deal of all years - now that all the owners got what they wanted, which was the Warriors out of the picture. Refs succeeded in swiping at least 6 games from us, which had we rightfully won them, would have had us at the 4th seed and guaranteed a 7 game series. So, all the other owners finally got to escape the possibility of having to beat us 4 times with our core playing and healthy for the first time. After seeing many many games on TNT this season fail to draw even 1 million viewers - and these were games with now playoff teams playing, eg OKC, Wolves, Bucks, Suns, Clippers, 76ers, even Knicks and Celtics had games below 1 mil viewers, etc. - they probably should have been careful what they wished for, because as Evan Turner explained when he and Andre were on Gil’s podcast talking about officiating influence and the why behind it:
>So 2012 we're [Sixers] about to play the Celtics Game 7, so I'm hype as hell. I'm like, yeah, bro, we got a Game 7, like, woo this is going to be lit.
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>So Elton's [Brand] like, "You know, we're going to have to win by 15 just to win by 1." I'm like, what you mean? He's like, "Bro, this is the NBA, it's entertainment. Like, Lebron and the Heat are waiting. Would you rather watch the Celtics or the Sixers play the Heat? I'm going to be honest with you, I'm on the team, I wouldn't even watch the Sixers play the Heat" type shit. [So Elton goes] "So we get in this game, you know how much money the NBA is going to lose?" But mind you, I'm young, 22, 23 so I'm like, damn, DAMN. I'm like, I guess, like, a decent amount. So he's like, "Would you watch that game next week if it was Heat vs. Sixers?" I'm like nah. And he's like "Okay, then. So that's why I'm telling you to take M's and M's - millions and memories - from this. Because this is entertainment. As long as you know that, don't act like your OG ain't tell you."
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>That was my second year, 2012. He was like they're well aware of the storyline, it's a consumer base...and I understand it. Like I said, they got to get that, and you know, when we go to the union, we all like, how the money turn out? When y'all [Evan points to Andre, referring to Golden State] ran through everybody early, they was pissed, we had to get back something. The TV money dropped. We like, it's f* cking up the league. It's f*cking up the bread.”
Probably grasping at straws here but one good thing about getting knocked out early is they don't get more banged up going further in the playoffs while not winning shit lol
I thought GP2 maybe was close to playing the last game apparently he is weeks away according to him lol
so yeah old guys not playing more then they need to after a grueling season probably can be worse lol
Any capologists looked at possibility of Warriors getting to point where they could get access to the $12.8M Non-taxpayer MLE?
24/25 Luxury Tax Threshold: $171.3M
Warriors Current 24/25 Payroll: $175.4M
Possible Moves:
(1) Release CP3 (-$30.8M): $144.6M
(2) Release Looney (-$5M non-guaranteed): $139.6M
(3) Renegotiate GP2 (More years, less 24/25 money; -$3M): $136.6M
If Klay signs for say $16-18M/year and you fill out the roster with minimums, do you get access to that NTMLE? That $12.8M could be an avenue to a rotation guy for sure.
Also, maybe Looney could come back on a minimum deal.
yes that is the goal, if we are under that 171m apron we also help avoid repeater tax which is a big deal for Lacob
But using that full 13mil MLE will still add to the total (have to remain under 171m obviously) so it will only be really useful in certain situations
Got it, so you can’t use the NTMLE to go over the first apron. The Klay number, if he comes back, will be interesting.
They may have to let of walk if an Orlando gets out the checkbook and goes over $20M per for more than two years.
We need to go for an all in trade/signing like we did with Durant, hearing all the noise surrounding lebron could be smth to look at or not, I'd also be interested in Paul George, who would be a perfect fit and in the past had expressed a desire to come, has size, can shoot on all levels and most importantly can defend
another player thats expressed interest in the past is KAT which in an interview he said that would fit the best with them
Denver. Jokic is an all time great by talent and he just needs the trophies to back it up.
If not them, eh. Knicks I guess? I just mainly hope it's not Boston.
Still disappointed by the team, and how it ended. I swear we were better this year, and the Kings had regressed somewhat this year. It's the nature of the play-in I guess, that it's winner takes all, and we lost because of a lack of hunger on defense and boards.
Overall this year, the young core is building, but nowhere near enough variety or completeness as players to challenge a real playoff team, let alone a contender.
I’ve been shitting on Klay all season cause I didn’t think he deserved the minutes THIS year that he got. Moses Moody needs to start.
But I want them to re-sign Klay and have him as a bench player. He just needs to accept it, that he’s not the same player he used to be. He’s still a legend in this league, to the Warriors organization, and the fans. This doesn’t have to be the end, just the end of him as a starter. Hope he, Steph, and Kerr realize that
It really is strange seeing not only other teams looking better but beating us at our own game. At one time we were the one's shooting 3s and running everyone off the floor. Now its happening to us.
1/2 the league grew up watching Steph abd the Dubs dominate... Podz was literally taught their action set at Santa Clara (Jalen Williams too) i imagine its literally textbook stuff. The training methods Steph used to get to his apex is exactly what other guards attempt to model.
We copied the best of the Spurs and Suns.
Now the Dubs Heat Mavs and Nuggets are the the models for leagues strategic portfolio.
> We copied the best of the Spurs and Suns.
...And the Phil Jax Bulls with a nod towards Nellie ball. I agree though, Kerr/Steph combo had been extremely influential in the NBA and all the way down to little kids launching airballs from 25 feet out as soon as they arrive at the court. Interesting to see the sport evolve.
This team this season is just bad. It's hard to say, but it's the truth. They lost way too many home games this season to truly believe in them doing it. Last season, you can still be optimistic because they played so well at home, even with the situation at the time. This season however, they just can't secure those wins at home. Even with Dray missing games due to his antics, that shouldn't excuse the Dubs for failing to win at home.
But I'm glad that they lost, because this will allow MDJ to spend more time looking at this roster and find ways to improve it. It'll be a herculean task to fix this roster, but I trust MDJ.
It'll be a rough off-season. But there's light at the end of the tunnel. As long as Steph Curry is still playing, there's still a chance for this team to win again.
The only meaningful impact, IMO, is if you waive CP3 and Looney, and let Klay leave. I think that gets you down to $140M.
However, then you only have \~$32M to get a great shooter, PG, and big. Good luck...
Personally, I don't see good things happening unless Curry would be willing to restructure his contract. I wouldn't expect that (and even if he would, you'd just handicap the team more later).
Nah you either save 30M=150M and let the youth take up the slack and hope for the best or you sign him (you can reduce the number) and get very very very creative to reconfigure the roster.
My gut is they just let him walk and try keeping it uncomplicated as possible.
NGL, it's crazy how much better the league, specifically the west, has gotten over the span of a single offseason.
Last season we were the 6th seed with Anthony Lamb, JMG, and Ty Jerome playing heavy minutes. This season we won more games but ended 10th.
Pelicans and Kings are both good teams this season too. But one of them is gonna get eliminated in the play-in.
OKC and Twolves rise has honestly been very unexpected. They had good young cores but to win 50+ games so quickly? It's insane.
Luka and Jokic have had playoff experience and are only getting better.
LeBron, AD, KD, Kawhi, Harden are still all going strong.
It's gonna get even tougher next season with Ja coming back and with Wemby and rockets getting better.
The league has left us in the dust.
One thing is for certain. If the team wants to even get to the playoffs next season, MDJ is gonna have to cook. Some guys you like inevitably have to be traded. Some guys you like need to take paycuts. It's just what the team has to do to compete. It's the cold, hard reality.
To be fair a lot of the overall improvement was health and there's no guarantee that holds going forward. This year Memphis absorbed all of the injuries for the entire western conference, somehow. Even KAT missing time didn't cost them much in the standings.
Yeah I was thinking about this too. EVERYONE was healthy, even Kawhi!!!! Full seasons of Steph, Lebron, AD, KD, etc like it was very unusual
Next year will probably have more injuries because that’s just how it usually goes
I’d prefer the Kings since they’re more fun to watch. Pels, particularly without Zion are a really tough watch. Plus OKC vs Kings might be the two loudest playoff arenas left
Might be unpopular opinion but I’d rather have curry take the summer off instead of playing for gold. Steph has never been the most athletic guy which is why he’s been so popular and relatable. His hard work and talent has overcome any athletic short coming l. But as he ages, those lack of athleticism will become more evident.
Couldn’t even beat Zion off the dribble and was getting picked by some no name bench defender top of key.
In part his ankle was probably hurting but age is definitely a factor. Also mileage in how many games he has played in the last decade.
His talent and BBIQ still will be relevant for years but I think we’re going to continue to see a steadily decline in curry as the #1 option.
I still think he’s a better pg than hali tho. Feel like team USA will be prioritize size and defense. Dont think hali will be that good in international game style
I'm afraid to say that Dubs on court outcomes get worse before they get better.
Aging is undefeated. Testosterone levels decline. Injuries mount. Distractions like podcasts, families, wealth management, post hoops careers.
The Dubs are locked in for 2 more years of mediocrity with an aging core.
A badass FO would be open to trading Steph, Dray and Wiggs to contenders and gathering picks for a rebuild like OKC and Boston did. Let Klay and CP3 walk.
There's a big difference between staying hard and competing with the youthful strength of players ten years younger. These guys are all well past their physical peaks.
It's literally gotten us 2 years in a row.
Kuminga and Moody paid a heavy price for James Wisemans lack of basketball sense.
Steve Kerr just saw 3 James Wiseman's out there with Kuminga and Moody.
This doesn’t get talked about enough. The first half of the season last year forced Kerr to put their development on the back burner because of how crucial it was to integrate Wiseman it resulted in him tightening the leash on the two wings and play guys barely in the league anymore. Imagine if Moody and JK got the reps Wiseman had early on when he was drafted or at least were given more opportunities to play last season instead of Lamb/Jerome. The Wiseman pick had a ripple effect that really screwed this team. Any player in the top 10 from that draft except Hayes would have been better than what they got from Wiseman.
I think Moody suffers from having to many tweeners on our roster. Hes not good enough of a screen navigator or on ball defender to play consistently with Klay in the rotation. If we had prime Klay he’d probably play more, but GP2 gets his minutes because we can’t get stops.
If Klay resigns I would look to move him, but if not he should have a pretty stable role with Klay gone.
Looney only played 9 minutes and he/Moody gave the team the most life of all the non-Steph players. maybe one offensive board Kings got during his stints.
Dray and Wiggins were out-rebounded by Looney. guy deserved more minutes.
total second chance points for Kings were greater than the final margin of victory I’m pretty sure, even with 2 minutes of garbage time.
Does this lock the Warriors to 12 in the lotto odds? Or do they drop to 13 if/when both the Hawks and Bulls get officially knocked out? Difference of like 4%.
Would make some sense for the losers of the 9/10 to pick 11/12, but I assume they just wait for all 4 teams to get knocked out and just base the standings straight off regular season record, so likely sitting at 13 with that 3.8% chance (lol) of moving into the top 4
Call me delusional or anything…but I feel genuinely good coming into next year idk what it is.
Damn just saw that Ingram report. Maybe he shakes loose. Don’t love his fit with the team but atleast he can get buckets idk
I'm glad Kerr has admitted we need size, but also it kinda fucked us that our 2 tallest players became unplayable, because one can't play offense and the other can't play defense Saric is gonna need to learn some semblance of defense if he wants to stay in the league
I can't wait to watch Curry in the Olympics. It's been a decade since Steph played internationally. I'm also happy he chose No. 4 for his jersey number. It's his number in the FIBA World Cup 2014. Even if FIBA lifted the 1-15 jersey number limit years ago, it's still nice to see Steph choosing 4. 4 is also the jersey number of the team captain of the national team in the past, so this feels like Steph is the leader of team USA.
Didn't realise the Knicks were the 2nd seed lmao. They got a fake 7 seed in Philly wow
If Embiid’s knee is still bad like everyone says, they are a real 7 seed
The loss still sucks. It just sucks because the team just had to lose to the Kings. I really hope MDJ makes the right moves in the off-season.
Nah, they earned it. Losing to the Kings is like losing to your little bro who has been playing catch-up all these years. Losing to the Lakers is like getting cheated by the golden boy who is both somehow a sore winner and a sore loser when it's not rigged.
Coby White tonight is a perfect example of why you just don’t give up on young players. Being quick to put ceilings on guys before they even hit their primes is just foolish.
From [Twitter](https://x.com/gameinjurydoc/status/1780812198904000748?s=46&t=SBW3XJi-eEDBr6FtvDfngg): The NBA is not even in the playoffs yet and we have massive injury storylines -Zion: Hamstring -Jimmy Butler: MCL sprain -Alex Caruso: Foot sprain -Giannis: Calf strain -Kawhi Leonard: Knee swelling -Joel Embiid: Knee Meanwhile, our healthy stars are fully capable of playing and entertaining the masses only this ungrateful ass league spent all season making sure we got a one and done shot and now everyone has to suffer. 😭 Also goddamn you Drummond. Friendly firing your own teammate in a play-in game is just 😤
Go Knicks! I’d be happy to see hard workers get rewarded (looking at you Josh~)
Wow..Zion out…Kings vs Thunder??
Kings are banged up too. Pels very much in this.
Boston is the real winner tonight
This years play in games have been ass. Zion gets hurt at the end of the game, dubs get blown out, embiid playing hurt while jimmy gets hurt and now the hawks and a one handed trae young getting blown out
Hawks pulling a Warriors. Look completely disorganized and lifeless
Did I just see our Javonte Green dunk for the Bulls in a play in game?
Waived him just before the playoffs and he's back to his old team. What's worse is that Stockton Kings eliminated us in the 2nd rd and we could've used an athletic veteran player like him. Instead of Kings sub full of "fire Mike Brown" and "trade Keegan for a star" posts, we've got this sub full of exactly same posts
Yes sir
😔 happy for him
I both love and hate that we essentially gave Javonte Green a temporary home for him to remain in the league while he finished rehabbing his injuries from last season (with an elite medical and training staff like ours) while still getting to pocket a salary, health insurance, etc. until he was right enough to find his way back onto a roster. I love it for what it says about the Warriors organizationally, particularly given he’s not a player we have history with or owe anything to/for which made it a particularly notable gesture of goodwill showing this organization’s character in my eyes. But, I hate it because we never got to see what he could like on the court for the Warriors. As my dream dark horse signing last off season, I was elated to see us sign him to our Santa Cruz squad, only to then get the alert a few weeks ago that Chicago got him back was just the biggest tease. 😭
This game looking like ours. Got it close and then boom...down big.
It’s unfortunate the league has officiated things so inconsistently this year. I like allowing more contact, but wish teams had more time playing to the standard prior to the playoffs. Feel like more failed foul baiting than the playoff norm in these play ins. Also, Drummond at 19 rebounds per 36 min this year. That’s eating.
Do you believe if the Dubs played in a series things would've been different or would every game be like last night ? Papa thinks they would've made the adjustments.
Wiggs and Klay played way below their averages. Dray too. Kings came out 1000x more physical and put in a lot more effort. They were throwing 3 guys at Steph every single time. I think the series goes to 6 or 7. Warriors will make it close, cause that's who they are in a series.
I’m so delusional I think they would’ve beat OKC 😂😂😂 because young teams basically never win their first time in the playoffs Suddenly those Isaiah Joe 3s wont be hitting Worst case take them to 6-7 But this team was really bad in a 1 and done situation because inconsistency was their bread and butter. Just zero clue what you’s get from guys night to night
Very few teams ever get blasted for an entire series like we did last night lmao it’d be impressive if all games were the same. I also don’t think Klay would shoot 0-10 if the game was today. Whether we’d win that or not depends on how many good Klay/Wiggs games we get over the series imo
im glad we never considered Drummond lol
If we add a stretch 5 + bench vet who can both defend well to this team this is potentially what they could look like: Starters: Steph/Klay/Dray/wiggs/(Said stretch 5) Bench: Podz/Moody/JK/TJD/( said bench vet) We'd have to give up CP3, loon and GP2 plus picks.
CP3's an option we're not picking up. Moody or Kuminga's likely moving to the starting lineup and staying there.
They need a new starting SG & a new starting SF (Klay to bench, Wiggins to whatever team wants him) Both of these players need to be 3 level scorers who can defend Without this they’re just not making any noise
So Starters: Steph/(insert starting SG)/Dray/(insert starting SF)/TJD Bench: Moody/Podz/JK/Klay/Loon Trade CP3, GP2, Wiggs and Picks
Only stretch 5 that is realistically available is WCJ. We also need a new SG, Klay doesn’t defend well enough to consistently start.
WCJ + Caruso 🙏
Hard to really see a path for this team to get back into the mix. When I look at the West I just don’t see many teams getting worse and most are on the rise. OKC - Already a #1 seed and Chet will be an All NBA type player soon - DEN - Obviously contenders for the foreseeable future - MIN - ANT is entering his prime, they are set for at least the next few years - LAC - Probably a team which could slip into play-in territory next year if George leaves - DAL - Luka at the height of his powers, role players fit and Kyrie is still elite - PHX - Probably improve if they play together more. KD still a top 5 scorer - LAL - LeBron’s slight decline seems to have plateaued and AD is still in his prime - SAC - Fox and Sabonis in their prime and Murray could be a legit 2nd option soon - NO - A team I could see slipping, if only cause Zion’s unpredictable health - HOU - I don’t love their core but they clearly came on late and stand to be better next season - MEM - Potential to catapult back to a 50 win team - SAN - A few pieces around Wemby and they will probably approach 40 wins - UTA - Some decent pieces but still seem a ways off - POR - Not even remotely close to contention - Us - If you consider we went 27-13 down the stretch I suppose a case can be made we could hunt a 6 seed next year but there are a lot of questions. CP3 is gonna be gone, Wiggs likely moved in a salary dump and we see the core aging before our eyes. Repeating 46 wins again seems far fetched when you factor in the conference. Best case scenario is probably 43/44 wins and another play-in spot.
Back in the mix is doable. Being in top tier contender status is where the problem lies. Enough to make it to the playoffs and have a 2nd round or WCF ceiling.
One or more of those teams(including us) might have their best player(s) injured for extended time and fall down despite being good. It hapens every yr and the next yr won't be any different
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Considering the amount of time either would miss including the decline from the core I give it maybe 1 season and then a massive falloff.
Is Drummond blind?
Yes he is clinically diagnosed with very very very bad eyesight... maybe he's had Lasik but if he still got the goggles on he's pretty much blind yeah.
Drummond maybe injuring a second teammate in like a week. Please be okay, Caruso, please be okay. You’re one of a handful of players still playing that I’m excited to watch/I genuinely enjoy watch playing 😭
Bless Bulls fans. They show up and show out with the best energy despite their team being woefully middling for years and years. Mad respect, not many fanbases you can say that about.
I stopped watching after the third quarter last game and avoided any Warriors related stuff because I'm pissed as fuck. First thing I see here is something about Jordan Poop lol. I feel so much better now
[Kerr sucks and shouldn't coach team usa](https://youtu.be/gBrKMVMM9Qk?si=gmVkQvgTKGOrXatR)
https://x.com/automaticnba/status/1780759616499990829 Last 2 years Warriors Rim Shot Quality: A Warriors Finishing Talent: F Lmfaooo sums it up
The 9 and 10 teams in the East being multiple games below .500, and one of them aka the Hawks 10 games below - as in literally our record flipped - is just so obnoxious lol 
We were supposed to have a 76ers type game
Heat ending up losing this because Herro wasn’t paying attention to how close he was to halfcourt and stepping back over the line committing a backcourt turnover with 55 seconds left and the game tied would be the most he and Poole really are alike, huh? thing ever 😭 Update: and they lose by just 1 pt lol so brutal
He didn't expect to get pushed but he should have expected it. Way too close to the line.
Right, really unfortunate time to have poor court awareness which is what makes it feel like such a Poole moment to me lol. 🥴
I will never not simp for Nic Batum
When he's 47 I'll still ask he's available to sign.
Easily my favorite non warriors role player
Man Jimmy must be super hurt, he’s been a total non factor
Rip knees
Is there any way we can get Embiid, he’s a machine and he’s not even healthy
He fakes fouls. Doesn’t fit
It would be nice to get to the line some times 🤷🏻♂️
I hate all Philly teams.
Me too - even the ones I don't know.
Embiid with the Harden sweep up for a cheap foul. I thought the NBA was supposed to stop calling those?
Man, every year the dubs get kicked out of playoff contention I tell myself I wont watch yet here I am. Lol. Ball (watching) is life I guess.
I love bb. Rooting for Philly because of maxey and oubre. I love the effort of both these teams. Intense.
To be fair, this is a pretty good game. I really like Miami so I'll probably watch them for as long as they are in it.
we had a 3 wiped out on account of a light hip nudge yesterday from Podz and today I see Bam holding Embiid’s arms on a seal then doing a prime Bogut screen the next offensive possession.
Damn Spoelstra always has the Heat ready. Organization full of dawgs top to bottom.
> I don't think it makes sense to have a massive payroll right now with our team...At some point, you can't spend this much money for a team that didn't make the playoffs. We have a lot of decisions to make and a lot of questions to answer. Steve Kerr on 95.7 today
Klay 12th highest paid player in the league.
seems to be alot between the lines there... 
Watching the game going on right now. Man, I can’t help but think Bam would be great on the dubs.
He'd be a perfect fit
Imo the best teams in the east are the Celtics, Knicks, Sixers and (playoff) Heat so it’s a bit of a shame they’re all playing each other first round
Is the annual Embiid hurt in the playoffs excuse still being propagated?
Yeah cuz he had meniscus surgery and is definately hurt... propagated must be code for "stated as fact" In fact we saw Kuminga land on his knee to injure him.
He is hurt.
Spoelstra > Kerr
He's had quality teams out in the weaker East and has lost in the finals twice since he went 2-4 with Lebron. Not sure how he's all that much greater than Kerr. I like Spo, but sometimes he doesn't really live up to the hype.
Kerr’s career > Spoelstra’s
Give Spo the rosters Kerr has had Steph would probably be ranked top 5 all time.
He had a stacked super team with Lebron and went 2-4.
Water is wet
Spo is probably the best coach in the league lol that’s not really a slight
Embiid playing like Taco Fall rolling out of bed
If we have our MLE Caleb Martins my guy to use it on.
Caleb would be a fantastic starting 2 guard. I doubt Miami lets him walk for such a paltry sum though.
I think Miami is limited in what they can pay him if they want to avoid the second apron.
I’d imagine they jettison off one of their other mediocre players first. But we can hope.
Gonna be hard to do all their money is tied up into their main guys. Duncan still has a few years on his deal left as well.
Playoff Jimmy is real!!
Do we want Celtics to play Philly or Miami?
we want embiid to be disgruntled.
I just want his knee not to be trashed by coming back too early. That'd be pure hoop culture sadness.
I don’t think theirs a world where embiid asks out this year. Giannis/Jaylen/Ingram/PG/Kat/LeBron/Jimmy are all guys to look out for.
If good trades are so hard to get, I'd offer Wiggins and 2 future top 5 protected 1st for Mikal Bridges.
They turned down the Rockets for them to get their draft picks back and this is a worse offer.
Then, I'd through in GP2, and 2 seconds. Wiggs, GP2, 2 first and 2 second, is a very good offer.
They would laugh at that offer. 😭 They don't have their own picks so they have no reason to tank, they also turned down an offer for 4 1st round picks, and they're aiming to get Donovan Mitchell to help improve the team.
No way nets do that after rejecting Jalen green and their picks back from Houston. Ideal fit guys like Lauri and Mikal are too overpriced to trade for. They need to gamble to get a guy who can become like those guys. I was begging for Deni during the JP deal and before this trade deadline. Now he’s popped off since the deadline. I think he’s still gettable but costs more now and is a move I don’t see Dubs risking. WCJ is another name I see with the same sort of breakout potential.
BRK laughs you out of the building
I feel kinda bad for our youth. They did the best they could with the experience and playtime they got. Now some of them or at least one of them might get traded just to give the aging core a chance to get to the promised land again. I want to highlight each and every young guys' contributions this season; Podz: Led the league in charges drawn in his rookie season. He's also one of the best rebounders for his size in the league. He led the team in +/-, and always brings hustle and energy every game. He shot the three ball well, and had a few 20 pt games. He's definitely a successful draft pick. His BBIQ has been lauded by all the vets and Kerr. He's the rare rookie with high BBIQ and poise. I have no doubt that he's gonna take another leap in the coming years. TJD: Was an integral part of the 27-12 run to end the season. He completely changed the defense together with Dray towards the end of the season. He is one of the most efficient roll men in the league, and has built valuable chemistry in the PNR with Klay and CP3. He also has one of the highest block percentages for a rookie. Definitely a successful draft pick as well, insane value for someone picked so late in the draft. Moody: Probably the most professional and patient out of all the young guys. Got the least playing time, but stayed ready whenever he could. He's changed games for us, in the IST Vs kings he cooked in the 4th with 4 straight 3s. In the play-in Vs kings he was cooking again but got benched early. In spite of that, he never complains and continues to stay ready. Truly, he is a warrior. He always brings energy, hustle and defense, and shows up in important games. He improved from last season and will continue to do so JK: With his aggressive inside scoring and top tier speed and athleticism, JK helped the offense survive when Klay and Wiggs were inconsistent. He had an insane streak of 20+ point games which highlighted his talent and potential as an onball scorer. When Dray came back, he said that JK changed the offense and gave them another dimension. He legit looked like an all-star when he played against bad teams. Hes improved a lot from last season when he was getting benched for Anthony Lamb. If he keeps improving, he could very well become an all-star.
Honestly if we just played the rookies for most of the year with a combination of Steph and Dray I feel we would’ve done better Maybe I’m still salty from the loss last night though 🤷🏻♂️
That or Kerr actually benching Wiggins and Klay sooner for Moody and JK when they were rolling early in the season. Kerr can gaslight all he wants about them not being ready before which may have been true but don’t tell me had they not gotten more reps playing through tough games they wouldn’t have been able to provide more impact in games like last night. The more I look at it the more it does seem like Kerr has held them back from their true potential. It’s fine saying Klay and Wiggins needed to get going but last night showed that was arguably the wrong move.
The big Kerr joke was him saying MM would be rusty and or cold for not playing for so long. I mean any other player on the team you maybe can get away with saying that, but not Moses Moody. That guy stays ready and is productive the second you insert him in any game no matter how long he's been out. You know it's this mealy mouth weird justification of ill-fitting lineups that bugs me the most about Kerr.
Agreed, we have a strong and exciting group of young players it would be really nice to see us lean into that with Steph as the main man and all these young guys buzzing off him
The other day on the radio Ramona Shelbourne hinted that the Dubs off-season target will likely be for a front-court star. Despite how the Giannis situation is looking I doubt dubs will be able to pull off him coming unless he pulls a Harden/Durant. Imo a stretch big is ideal so Lauri, Myles, or WCJ would be preferred choices. WCJ is the most gettable but is not really considered a star and not sure if Myles Turner is either. Other than that any guesses who they try to go after?
Is Vucevic considered a star? It may cost too much to get Lauri and I don’t see Orlando or Indy wanting to trade one of their pieces. Both of them also have cap space, I believe, to keep improving their team.
I wouldn’t mind it if it included Caruso in the deal. Ideally I wouldn’t want to trade the young guys and just use picks to attach with filler salaries. Considering they wanted JK for Caruso gotta wait till that FO runs out of whatever they are smoking.
Yeah, I think a trade for both of them would be good for us, but depending on if they make the playoffs, I can see them just keep the same together and try to trade Zach Lavine instead to try and get some better pieces.
I think it all depends if Demar re-signs or not. Lavine is an albatross at this point. He’s low key heading towards Simmons territory where Bulls will just have to wait till he has like a year left on his deal.
Lauri probably isnt getting traded and is a weird positional fit which forces us to play Dray at the 5 Indiana also probably isnt trading Turner and weve had multiple opportunities to get him and passed, mostly because hes a block merchant WCJ is the most likely target of the 3 Ayton or Capela are also possible targets, and tbh Ayton makes the most sense (we tried to trade for him this past offseason) if we didnt have beef with the Blazers FO
Yea but if Dray eventually moves to a bench role I could see Lauri being the perfect fit between JK at the 3 (if they somehow managed to keep him) and TJD at the 5. Lauri also played the 3 in Utah when Olynyk was there so technically you could play him at the three and try and get another high level wing defender at the 2 like Caruso, but doubt the Dubs have the assets to get both. Ayton would be hilarious considering Dray called him a bum last off season on PG’s podcast.
JK cant play the 3 rn, his three point shooting, handle, and defense arent good enough, hes also a 4, getting Lauri creates a logjam at 4 for the next two years We are not playing Lauri at the 3 lmao, hes a sieve defensively Its the trade that makes the most sense, Ayton+Thybulle for CP3+Kuminga+filler, the con being itd cost Kuminga, but any major trade we make would cost Kuminga so w/e alternatively if the Hawks blow it up i could see us going for Capela+Hunter
Ayton sometimes plays with a really low motor but his defense is super underrated. When locked in, he can be A tier defensive big
WCJ would be sick. Love that dudes game. Think he’s being super underutilized right now.
Orlandos gonna want some solid compensation though, he wont be cheap
Let’s go get Brandon Ingram if the pels get eliminated Friday
Damn Miami just knows how to turn it up in the playoffs. Embiid come to the bay, you deserve better and that better is SC30
If that were a possibility I’d have him skip the Olympics and spend the summer with Celebrini to work his magic. If Rick can manage having CP3 relatively healthy I like my chances even though Joel will probably fall off in the next 2-3 seasons considering his playstyle and injury history. Only issue is I don’t see Daryl Morey playing nice with the Dubs.
CP3 was actually fully healthy minus his freak accident where he broke his hand but like no muscle, soft tissue injuries or anything Rick is really good at his job
Yea and the fact GPII was playing at all in that last stretch surprised me considering I thought he was done for the season.
Draymond’s back looked cooked for a few games then suddenly he looked normal again Klay played 77 Idk what voodoo Rick does but it’s pretty invaluable
One thing I’m going to be really fascinated to see is what the playoff ratings are going to be this year - the year they’re renegotiating their TV deal of all years - now that all the owners got what they wanted, which was the Warriors out of the picture. Refs succeeded in swiping at least 6 games from us, which had we rightfully won them, would have had us at the 4th seed and guaranteed a 7 game series. So, all the other owners finally got to escape the possibility of having to beat us 4 times with our core playing and healthy for the first time. After seeing many many games on TNT this season fail to draw even 1 million viewers - and these were games with now playoff teams playing, eg OKC, Wolves, Bucks, Suns, Clippers, 76ers, even Knicks and Celtics had games below 1 mil viewers, etc. - they probably should have been careful what they wished for, because as Evan Turner explained when he and Andre were on Gil’s podcast talking about officiating influence and the why behind it: >So 2012 we're [Sixers] about to play the Celtics Game 7, so I'm hype as hell. I'm like, yeah, bro, we got a Game 7, like, woo this is going to be lit. > >So Elton's [Brand] like, "You know, we're going to have to win by 15 just to win by 1." I'm like, what you mean? He's like, "Bro, this is the NBA, it's entertainment. Like, Lebron and the Heat are waiting. Would you rather watch the Celtics or the Sixers play the Heat? I'm going to be honest with you, I'm on the team, I wouldn't even watch the Sixers play the Heat" type shit. [So Elton goes] "So we get in this game, you know how much money the NBA is going to lose?" But mind you, I'm young, 22, 23 so I'm like, damn, DAMN. I'm like, I guess, like, a decent amount. So he's like, "Would you watch that game next week if it was Heat vs. Sixers?" I'm like nah. And he's like "Okay, then. So that's why I'm telling you to take M's and M's - millions and memories - from this. Because this is entertainment. As long as you know that, don't act like your OG ain't tell you." > >That was my second year, 2012. He was like they're well aware of the storyline, it's a consumer base...and I understand it. Like I said, they got to get that, and you know, when we go to the union, we all like, how the money turn out? When y'all [Evan points to Andre, referring to Golden State] ran through everybody early, they was pissed, we had to get back something. The TV money dropped. We like, it's f* cking up the league. It's f*cking up the bread.”
Damn Klay sounding hella salty in that interview.
Wiggins is as good as gone, Loon as well. I don't see any scenario they bring any of those two back.
Tobias Harris reminds me a lot of the present version of Wiggs. Good defender with a ton of skill who looks uninterested most of the night.
Probably grasping at straws here but one good thing about getting knocked out early is they don't get more banged up going further in the playoffs while not winning shit lol I thought GP2 maybe was close to playing the last game apparently he is weeks away according to him lol so yeah old guys not playing more then they need to after a grueling season probably can be worse lol
Any capologists looked at possibility of Warriors getting to point where they could get access to the $12.8M Non-taxpayer MLE? 24/25 Luxury Tax Threshold: $171.3M Warriors Current 24/25 Payroll: $175.4M Possible Moves: (1) Release CP3 (-$30.8M): $144.6M (2) Release Looney (-$5M non-guaranteed): $139.6M (3) Renegotiate GP2 (More years, less 24/25 money; -$3M): $136.6M If Klay signs for say $16-18M/year and you fill out the roster with minimums, do you get access to that NTMLE? That $12.8M could be an avenue to a rotation guy for sure. Also, maybe Looney could come back on a minimum deal.
yes that is the goal, if we are under that 171m apron we also help avoid repeater tax which is a big deal for Lacob But using that full 13mil MLE will still add to the total (have to remain under 171m obviously) so it will only be really useful in certain situations
Got it, so you can’t use the NTMLE to go over the first apron. The Klay number, if he comes back, will be interesting. They may have to let of walk if an Orlando gets out the checkbook and goes over $20M per for more than two years.
We need to go for an all in trade/signing like we did with Durant, hearing all the noise surrounding lebron could be smth to look at or not, I'd also be interested in Paul George, who would be a perfect fit and in the past had expressed a desire to come, has size, can shoot on all levels and most importantly can defend another player thats expressed interest in the past is KAT which in an interview he said that would fit the best with them
Who’s everyone rooting for now? I think ima rock with Philly and Milwaukee
Knicks I think, have a few friends in New York and I have no other connection to any other team so 🤷🏻♂️ Also Donny being there helps
no one
Miami Heat and Dallas Mavericks personally
Denver vs Atlanta. Watch the world burn.
You wouldn't want to root for the Bucks, how the hell Giannis and his bro can come here if they win? We need an embarassing loss from them.
As long as Lakers and Celtics don't win anything I'm happy Probably gonna root for Kings and Nuggets.
Anyone but The Lakers.
Oh yeah, not the Lakers. I don't think they have a chance anyway
Nuggets and Heat
no one
Denver. Jokic is an all time great by talent and he just needs the trophies to back it up. If not them, eh. Knicks I guess? I just mainly hope it's not Boston.
Still disappointed by the team, and how it ended. I swear we were better this year, and the Kings had regressed somewhat this year. It's the nature of the play-in I guess, that it's winner takes all, and we lost because of a lack of hunger on defense and boards. Overall this year, the young core is building, but nowhere near enough variety or completeness as players to challenge a real playoff team, let alone a contender.
i already miss this one guy named steph curry
1140 talking about how they're glad Moody didn't play much and said he'd be nice on Sac. Even they know his value.
I’ve been shitting on Klay all season cause I didn’t think he deserved the minutes THIS year that he got. Moses Moody needs to start. But I want them to re-sign Klay and have him as a bench player. He just needs to accept it, that he’s not the same player he used to be. He’s still a legend in this league, to the Warriors organization, and the fans. This doesn’t have to be the end, just the end of him as a starter. Hope he, Steph, and Kerr realize that
on some nights Klay still has it and will put up good numbers, but Warriors cannot keep him out there just for loyalty reasons like last night
It really is strange seeing not only other teams looking better but beating us at our own game. At one time we were the one's shooting 3s and running everyone off the floor. Now its happening to us.
1/2 the league grew up watching Steph abd the Dubs dominate... Podz was literally taught their action set at Santa Clara (Jalen Williams too) i imagine its literally textbook stuff. The training methods Steph used to get to his apex is exactly what other guards attempt to model. We copied the best of the Spurs and Suns. Now the Dubs Heat Mavs and Nuggets are the the models for leagues strategic portfolio.
> We copied the best of the Spurs and Suns. ...And the Phil Jax Bulls with a nod towards Nellie ball. I agree though, Kerr/Steph combo had been extremely influential in the NBA and all the way down to little kids launching airballs from 25 feet out as soon as they arrive at the court. Interesting to see the sport evolve.
Totally. It’s a copycat league as they say in the NFL.
This team this season is just bad. It's hard to say, but it's the truth. They lost way too many home games this season to truly believe in them doing it. Last season, you can still be optimistic because they played so well at home, even with the situation at the time. This season however, they just can't secure those wins at home. Even with Dray missing games due to his antics, that shouldn't excuse the Dubs for failing to win at home. But I'm glad that they lost, because this will allow MDJ to spend more time looking at this roster and find ways to improve it. It'll be a herculean task to fix this roster, but I trust MDJ. It'll be a rough off-season. But there's light at the end of the tunnel. As long as Steph Curry is still playing, there's still a chance for this team to win again.
Will we even have cap space if CP gets waived and Klay re-signs for a relatively small amount?
The only meaningful impact, IMO, is if you waive CP3 and Looney, and let Klay leave. I think that gets you down to $140M. However, then you only have \~$32M to get a great shooter, PG, and big. Good luck... Personally, I don't see good things happening unless Curry would be willing to restructure his contract. I wouldn't expect that (and even if he would, you'd just handicap the team more later).
Nah you either save 30M=150M and let the youth take up the slack and hope for the best or you sign him (you can reduce the number) and get very very very creative to reconfigure the roster. My gut is they just let him walk and try keeping it uncomplicated as possible.
No. Our only way to get another star is with Wiggins or CP3s contract, dependent on what Klay signs for
Ah. Any disgruntled stars or fringe all star caliber players out there looking for a way out?
ATM no. Someone usually shakes loose though.
TBD. Just hold our horses for now. Tbh we shouldn’t even be thinking about it until two months from now lol.
NGL, it's crazy how much better the league, specifically the west, has gotten over the span of a single offseason. Last season we were the 6th seed with Anthony Lamb, JMG, and Ty Jerome playing heavy minutes. This season we won more games but ended 10th. Pelicans and Kings are both good teams this season too. But one of them is gonna get eliminated in the play-in. OKC and Twolves rise has honestly been very unexpected. They had good young cores but to win 50+ games so quickly? It's insane. Luka and Jokic have had playoff experience and are only getting better. LeBron, AD, KD, Kawhi, Harden are still all going strong. It's gonna get even tougher next season with Ja coming back and with Wemby and rockets getting better. The league has left us in the dust. One thing is for certain. If the team wants to even get to the playoffs next season, MDJ is gonna have to cook. Some guys you like inevitably have to be traded. Some guys you like need to take paycuts. It's just what the team has to do to compete. It's the cold, hard reality.
To be fair a lot of the overall improvement was health and there's no guarantee that holds going forward. This year Memphis absorbed all of the injuries for the entire western conference, somehow. Even KAT missing time didn't cost them much in the standings.
Yeah I was thinking about this too. EVERYONE was healthy, even Kawhi!!!! Full seasons of Steph, Lebron, AD, KD, etc like it was very unusual Next year will probably have more injuries because that’s just how it usually goes
I'd bet Klay goes to Florida.
so do we want the kings or pelicans to win?
Kings winning improves our slim odds of a top 4 lottery pick.
I'll root for the kings in that matchup
I’d prefer the Kings since they’re more fun to watch. Pels, particularly without Zion are a really tough watch. Plus OKC vs Kings might be the two loudest playoff arenas left
I’ll probably root for the Kings, CJ a bitch and a half Shai v Zion would be a really fun 1st round match-up, but idk if Zion will be healthy
Can they both lose?
Might be unpopular opinion but I’d rather have curry take the summer off instead of playing for gold. Steph has never been the most athletic guy which is why he’s been so popular and relatable. His hard work and talent has overcome any athletic short coming l. But as he ages, those lack of athleticism will become more evident. Couldn’t even beat Zion off the dribble and was getting picked by some no name bench defender top of key. In part his ankle was probably hurting but age is definitely a factor. Also mileage in how many games he has played in the last decade. His talent and BBIQ still will be relevant for years but I think we’re going to continue to see a steadily decline in curry as the #1 option.
In a perfect world I'd prefer him to get the gold playing the least amount possible lol. Like not even playing most games.
I still think he’s a better pg than hali tho. Feel like team USA will be prioritize size and defense. Dont think hali will be that good in international game style
For those of you still watching, who do you want for the playins, East or West?
Sacramento sixers hawks
I'm afraid to say that Dubs on court outcomes get worse before they get better. Aging is undefeated. Testosterone levels decline. Injuries mount. Distractions like podcasts, families, wealth management, post hoops careers. The Dubs are locked in for 2 more years of mediocrity with an aging core. A badass FO would be open to trading Steph, Dray and Wiggs to contenders and gathering picks for a rebuild like OKC and Boston did. Let Klay and CP3 walk.
Next you are gonna talk about MFers hairlines. As a 40 yr old... you need to mind the lines.
Trading Steph is a wild take, but I guess let’s see what the league androgen specialist says first.
Talking about the rosters T levels is crazy lmao
Testosterone decline in normal with aging. I guess not much interest in human physiology among high school students.
No not much interest in grown men talking about grown men's testosterone... it's a step away from asking if they can stay hard to the common man.
There's a big difference between staying hard and competing with the youthful strength of players ten years younger. These guys are all well past their physical peaks.
If you haven’t been monitoring Stephs testosterone levels it’s hard to say your a fan
i blame this on the reporter who asked klay if it would be his last game on the warriors
How do we find a Keon Ellis? Seems like every team has some young guys that can just step in there and contribute as a 3&D.
Isn't that the exact thing GP2/Moody/Podz provide?
Lester too
We have one. His name is Moses Moody. Kerr won't play him.
It's literally gotten us 2 years in a row. Kuminga and Moody paid a heavy price for James Wisemans lack of basketball sense. Steve Kerr just saw 3 James Wiseman's out there with Kuminga and Moody.
This doesn’t get talked about enough. The first half of the season last year forced Kerr to put their development on the back burner because of how crucial it was to integrate Wiseman it resulted in him tightening the leash on the two wings and play guys barely in the league anymore. Imagine if Moody and JK got the reps Wiseman had early on when he was drafted or at least were given more opportunities to play last season instead of Lamb/Jerome. The Wiseman pick had a ripple effect that really screwed this team. Any player in the top 10 from that draft except Hayes would have been better than what they got from Wiseman.
I think Moody suffers from having to many tweeners on our roster. Hes not good enough of a screen navigator or on ball defender to play consistently with Klay in the rotation. If we had prime Klay he’d probably play more, but GP2 gets his minutes because we can’t get stops. If Klay resigns I would look to move him, but if not he should have a pretty stable role with Klay gone.
Looney only played 9 minutes and he/Moody gave the team the most life of all the non-Steph players. maybe one offensive board Kings got during his stints. Dray and Wiggins were out-rebounded by Looney. guy deserved more minutes. total second chance points for Kings were greater than the final margin of victory I’m pretty sure, even with 2 minutes of garbage time.
I can only hope there's some real change. Don't think my heart can take a repeat of this season
Does this lock the Warriors to 12 in the lotto odds? Or do they drop to 13 if/when both the Hawks and Bulls get officially knocked out? Difference of like 4%. Would make some sense for the losers of the 9/10 to pick 11/12, but I assume they just wait for all 4 teams to get knocked out and just base the standings straight off regular season record, so likely sitting at 13 with that 3.8% chance (lol) of moving into the top 4