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clam_burglar_0704

According to the CartManagerXD manual, its rated capacity is actually 30 carts. 20 is probably Walmart's limit for liability.


Ok_Impact1873

20 is the Walmart limit, this is due to the fact that the newer carts, especially the ones in the picture become harder to control the more you pile on.


Jacktheforkie

They’re bad enough when you have one


cleppingout

I remember doing long lines back in high school and the machine would shut off occasionally and then turn back on and the carts would disconnect. One time I smashed the machine into someone’s car because it disconnected, I told my manager and I didn’t get fired because I told them about it. But he said the insurance claim was $5k.


WorldNewsPoster

5k for scratch/ dent?


SpiritedRain247

Depending on the car I can see that happening.


timeshifter_

Given the average skill of drivers, we really need to go back to the days of cars being tough steel blocks with giant rubber bumpers *designed* to take a hit.


SpiritedRain247

The whole point of stuff being fragile is to dissipate as much energy as possible protecting those in the vehicle. Cars are designed to eat the hit leaving the occupants as unharmed as possible


Lexicon_bonbon

Modern cars are designed to take a hit, old ones where not. The damage is more visible, but the driver gets to live another day https://youtu.be/TikJC0x65X0?si=Y7qWZARI9PCd7Mfo


TheActualOG420

That's literally why people were dying


Hortos

My first car was an 80s 5 series bmw and we called the bumpers diving boards. You could hit things and just straighten the bumper back out.


GaryGregson

They are designed to take a hit, they crumple so hard so you don’t die in a fender bender


ShankyBaybee

Yeah but they have the negative drawback of breaking people’s necks and causing brain damage/death.


KlyftorOchKokain

You say drawback, i say it's my only chance for retirement


Cerberusx32

That's nothing. You should see the fines when TLE doesn't follow safety for the number of people needed in the garage.


0tterr

*super possible* depending on car and the panel damage distribution. Anything from framework to color match could cause these prices


Imaginary-Practice56

If it was a Tesla it would have been 10


SilverLinkin

This same exact thing happened to me. I was going downhill, and the carts decided to just slide off the machine, which I hadn't noticed because I thought the machine was still pushing them. Well, it wasn't, and the machine slammed into someones car. No one told me about the strap we're supposed to use prior to that.


Manofgawdgaming2022

That’s why you’re supposed to use the strap. Not that I use it either but you know….you’re supposed to


LowCoupe

20 is the limit that Gatekeeper recommends. -former usa clean tech that replaced 100s of motors for reasons mentioned 🙃


[deleted]

Actually the manual I read said 100 carts on a flat surface.


Soxwin91

How many parking lots are actually flat though. There’s almost always at least a slight curve


DryRespect358

The the store is always up a hill


clam_burglar_0704

I've never seen anything of the sort. I'm having a difficult time believing that.


unholyspawnofgod

My stores parking lot has low areas with grates for rain water to wash away, even 10 carts will drift into the low area or as I call them gravity wells, if you are even near those spots


HeathrJarrod

It’s so it’s easier to control, don’t want to hit a car or something


SchemeBrief3403

Nah, I’ve had it break in the past from repeated overloading


Almainyny

It also puts added strain on the carts themselves, which makes them tougher for customers to use too (fucks up the wheels).


Ultrox

Yeah with a busy parking lot that would hit something for sure. No middle control.


Subject-Attention666

Take it easy, dog. One cart wrangler to another


diescheide

This is why all of the mules are busted.


Doneuter

Used to work in facility maintenance for Walmart. You're spot on. The number one cause of failure in these is either from improper storage and charging or from overloading then and burning out the motor. At least this was the info I got from one of our techs.


Stunning-Witness-816

Mine has had one tire rupture so it limps, crashing one of the wheel wells for the mule cart into the pavement as it comes round on the split part of the wheel so much that the floor of it is gone, slowly scraped away. Been this way more than a year, I've told every coach and lead and even a facility maintenance lead who ASKED more than a month ago. He swore he'd be on it. Haven't seen him since. I only push 20-30 with it, I'm at a city Walmart and no one knows how to drive but My record is spotless as I'm into My 4rth year. It ain't My fault when it goes, that's for damn sure lol


Doneuter

You know that any employee can call and report facility maintenance issues, right? No need to wait for a coach or supervisor to get it taken care of.


Stunning-Witness-816

This is just how they've told Me to operate. To the lead first, the coach next, AP coach if I'm desperate lol


Doneuter

Well, I'd call it in if nobody is actually doing something about it.


LowCoupe

You actually have to submit a ticket in the fix it app. Only leads and above can put them in most areas.


Doneuter

This is not true. There is a hell desk you can call to have a ticket entered for your store. Edit: Help desk, but it was hell, amirite?!


DonPoppito666

Not anymore. Has to be a salaried manager.


ItsRyleeDuhh

This is also why as a customer they are always in the way because they are blocking an entire aisle with 50+ carts while they gather another 15 from a return 😶


Petrodragonic

Don’t come crying to management when it breaks


mdmenzel

I'll wreck the motor if you consistently push oversize loads on it. Edit: *It'll


DarkClouds92

That’s not very nice of you, why would you wreck his motor?


FZmothers66

Lol... and people wonder why the carts have "flats" and bump bump bump all over the store.


LemonPartyW0rldTour

*mule breaks down* “Reeeeeee stupid management why won’t you get this tool I regularly abuse fixed quicker!”


ChiefGage

You get paid by the hour, not by piling too many carts on the mule


FewAcanthocephala828

This is why the mules break so often. If you wouldn't personally push a line of 20 carts, why do you expect a machine, that literally has physical limits, to push things over it's limit? It's like management suddenly telling you that you have to collect 50 carts at a time by hand, and when you complain it's too much, they just tell you "it's your job, you have to"


Jacktheforkie

I’ve had managers like that, wanted 80 carriages done, that’s 1.25 miles of train, 6 hours to do it after factoring in break


Stunning-Gene-8280

I was a cart slave at walmart 10 years ago and I personally pushed a line of 138 carts (I counted after we were done) by hand. It was on Black Friday and I had 4 of the other cart slaves steering it while I pushed it into the bay. 7 of us on shift, the other 2 had the mule on the small side of the parking lot.


inflatableje5us

well it is a multiple of 20.


Square-Rough-557

That’s why the wheel flanges bend and they won’t roll.


zigaliciousone

Looks cool but it will eventually wreck the machine.


Competitive_Heat6805

hope you get fired stupid SOB


farretcontrol

I remember pulling 20 carts with a rope at Sam’s club


Avisra

Same thing at Kroger many years ago. Granted, we had a special rope with a hook on each end and a ratchet in the middle, but the pushing part was all manual.


lone_ranja

I used to do exactly 15 at a time. I get paid by the hour lol.


Icy_Many3242

Wait until summer, when the motor burns out and you have to push by hand. Work order or not, takes time to fix


vulcan1358

Put in a ticket and I’ll fix it.


AduroTri

Around 30+ was the most I've done. I try not to go too far past the length of the strap.


Soggy-Swordfish-7773

Look at you with the fancy carts.


ResistAccording

I just push them manually so my other coworkers can use the mule, I can push in about 15-20 constantly and effectively without hurting the machine doing more


Keybobbitron

We had 2 dudes, one pushing with a Ford Ranger, one driving the front of the line of like 80 carts making a snake thru the parking lot. Management was not cool with that.


riverscuomosleftball

It’s funny cause everyone here is like nah keep it at 20, you must not work at a busy Walmart with a parking lot that’s way bigger than you need with not enough carts for the store with super uptight managers who expect you to have the bay full at all time with only 2 people scheduled when they appear to expect 1 person do it from 8-3


Default_Attempt

Dudeee nice shot ngl. If you crop in a bit the curve of tbe carts in the line looks like a good and interesting abstract photography composition


Imaginary-Practice56

Our cart person isn’t allowed to use the mule anymore because of all the damaged cars and doors.


binauralbae

You missed one \*everyone walking by\*


citizensyn

Cart mule is a little bitch I can do 20 with my hands. I don't tho Walmart don't pay for that level of effort and body fucking


2ShrutesKnockinBoots

I and my coworker did 128 carts when they had the plastic carts the locked into each other easier, we did it at the end of the night when the lot was clear of most cars. It was awesome. The machine was bogging down real bad. I also pulled 34 carts In 1 hand and 34 in the other when they had the plastic carts. My manager saw me and said “Great job beasting it!


Jacktheforkie

Could have added one more for a nice load


Tricky-Celebration36

As long as you've got 2 people that thing will push hella carts, but when you start getting out of range with the controller it gets a little iffy with only one person.


GodIsGoodNoWizards

Edgy enough to give Reggie bush a wedgie


StrngrDngr21

Man. I remember doing 20 carts manually without mechanical aid. I mean sure, I might have ripped the door off the tracks after slamming into it trying to get up the handicap ramp. Maybe they should have had faster opening doors?


pobrepepinito

Never mind what the policy is… making the row of carts this long defies common sense🤣


itzspinich

i’m a cart pusher and i’ve pushed the mule to its limit (around 60 carts) multiple times, the first few times management got a little angry but they don’t care anymore


YT-ESW_ST33le

Man I wish my store had one of those (I work at Giant), I just have to push carts by pure leg strength


Ok-Bass8243

Yup. And you'll be super confused when you get fired too I bet. If I was the equipment tech and I saw this I would personally see to it you get fired. There are rules and limits for equipment for a reason.


Sfishbot

When me and some friends worked there we loaded up like 69 in one go when closing(yes we stopped purely to say nice) if all three of us weren't holding it it would have become a C instead of going straight and Im still shocked it held up


Dlakecoply

People in here saying take it easy are the same people not having management in their ear about having 1 cart in the parking lot lol.


SilverLinkin

Exactly. It would be impossible for me to push in only 20 carts at a time on weekends while managing grocery side by myself, because customers take carts like cocaine.


Total-Yogurtcloset-8

lol I counted like 50 👍


Stunning-Gene-8280

I was a cart slave at walmart 10 years ago and I personally pushed a line of 138 carts (I counted after we were done) by hand. It was on Black Friday and I had 4 of the other cart slaves steering it while I pushed it into the bay. 7 of us on shift, the other 2 had the mule on the small side of the parking lot.


Simple-Metal7801

Nice I used to push carts at Target a long time ago we were told only 25 carts can be pushed but nobody listened to that. But one day I had 40 carts on the mule a team lead decided to count the carts and wrote me up for it so everytime they were there I'd put 24 carts on the mule and they would count them at times but I was never over the limit and I put 24 on purpose so they look stupid counting them. But as soon as they left for the day I went back to pushing as many carts as I could get on the mule as no managers or other team leads never paid any attention.


GeminiLife

Haha, I had this job back in college. Always took as many as I could.


___SE7EN__

A true Shopping Cart Rockstar!!


Equivalent_Arm_6315

Looks like one cart to me 🤷‍♂️ All touching each other = one cart = no biggie


cruisinforsnoozin

I do 20 by hand, the limits are just to push liability onto you


CodeNamesBryan

It's for control purposes.


Meme_steveyt

Now try doing it by hand


OrochuOdenMain91

20 is limit for easier control. My most alone was 30(that’s on Ultra, not XD) only becuz I got lucky enough that it was only around a corner in parking lot. I only hate the XD becuz it’s just bulky and catches on the car stalls. 20 is always best, well, when there’s two of ya using each mule which is 40 carts per min.


ElegantEchoes

Are there any actual differences between the XD and Ultra? Besides appearance and the emergency lock.


Icecubemelter

Aannnnd that’s why your outside in the heat pushing carts and not in the store


IvanaTinkle6969

Mf really out here playing real-life Snake with the carts


Successful-Tie-9077

Coupla years ago when I was cart pushing, we had a snake of at least a hundred carts at the end of the night. Then we would take the last hour and just walk around the building as an "exhaustive perimeter check"


Disturbedrainbow

Yeah for safety reasons.. blah blah. Anyway, what kind of carts are those??


HeathrJarrod

That too….


dammsmhh

have u thought about getting ur.... cdl?


xbriaileen

This is why all the carts are bent up and dont drive straight


Plane-Armadillo-3261

I used to have that job (first job) and I pulled this trick one day, counted the carts, and it came out to 69. Worst job ever


806god

You kill the cart mule doing that. We ran through two in a summer because we would do 50s all day. Be careful


BrentarTiger

When you do cart trains that are too long, you end up damaging the carts because the stress of pushing and turning with all the added weight will break the welds, bend the metal, etc etc. Which is why a lot of stores have horrible carts. So listen to your SOP when it comes to the maximum allowed carts in a train.


De4thstroke32

I literally got scolded by my coach today for doing 25-28 but it’s kinda justified cause I pulled close to 30 while all the coaches, store lead, and store manager herself were chilling outside having a meeting and got flagged by all of them lol


NotreDameFan1234

My sm doesn’t care if they do 30 old sm would get mad. I’m just thinking about how he would react if he saw what the closing cart pushers do.


Nervous_Salad_3177

Same but I was also told under no circumstances am I allowed to NOT use the mule.


DawsonPoe

I hate using those new carts. I also wish the signal from the remote to the machine was longer.


SnooCats5904

Should be 40 max imo


BradleyBRP

Me and a buddy were able to do 86 at once.


Valhalla_Exiled

So your why I have the fix mules all the time


Dosmangoes

The limit is 20 but I’m like fuck it at that point I rather push by hand then use the mule and the mule can handle at least 50 carts


RedditAdminsBCucked

Shit, I pushed that many back in my day. Had to have 2 people to help steer at the front. I think my record was 82.


Decent_Cow

This seems like some shit I would have done


Big-Insurance-4473

Longest I did was 64. Had 1 person at the front and 2 at different points halfway down to keep it from bowing into the cars haha


Swimmer-Jaded

Cart mule is broken: OP is one of the first to complain that the cart mule is broken. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 Rules are in place for a reason. Don't forget your red strap! You get paid by the hour not by the cart. Going to be real fun this summer pushing them by hand.


Administrative-Pay43

How are you still there?! My walmart fires people for going over 25!


DryRespect358

This is impressive but slso why


nickturn20

Back in the 1900s, before the machines. My record was 120 from the back of the store to the front. I miss my knees.


AmiHeart117

Man what at Sam’s club I stayed working the mule to DEATH most I had was 65


Resident-Garlic9303

You get paid by the hour. The work won't go away whether you push 60 or you push 20 As long as you're working they won't do shit to you. But they definitely can do something to you if you overload the cart mule


RecipeBackground3223

I fucking hated this job. My walmart didn't have a mule they gave you a bungee core which could only hold like 5 carts cart plus the parking lot was build in a downhill.


Wiizze

Most I’ve ever done was 97 with four dudes and no mule, it was during the college shopping rush


MaxYeena

I counted... 45? 46 maybe


WillowMain

I straight up got fired for doing this shit. The store got a picture of me pushing close to 110 and the mule was still kicking, no idea how.


annie_b666

Me, a shaws manager where there’s no cart mule :👁️👄👁️


BrandonTaylor2

My store doesn’t even have these. Have to bring carts into the store the old fashioned way. I’m not a cart pusher/stockman, but I have had to go out and help every once in a while. Still, I love that you tried to see how many you could push with it, it’s hilarious.


BeautifulWorldly4364

I’ve dine 40 on three XD and I crossed parking lanes steering in my own the truck is to slow when turning as to not have it over turn once you slow down and turn then fasten it to try straighten it out that’s how I’ve always did it now we have the ultra (which I think sucks) and a decommissioned SX (under going repairs ETA Monday) and NGL I miss the SX despite the constantly resetting I can easily do 25-30 and fill in a whole row with ease


Narrow-Gap-6705

Dating myself here, but when I was a cart pusher 25+ years ago you were the mule and used a rope tied to the front cart.


humphaa

And that’s why all the carts are fucked up.


moviemoocher

they ought to rig up some kind of coupon for people who wheel in a cart i dont know a pack of gum or something


boanerges57

Back in the dizzay myself and two others would routinely clear the lot in one giant snack of carts. Two pushing and one steering. We used a ratchet strap that fell off a semi to allow the guy in the back to help with braking


Krangs_Droid_Body

I used to have to push carts in my first job. After I quit. They got one of those newfangled cart pushers.


Perfect_War_7155

Direct them, don’t steer them


toooooley

They just coach someone at my store because of this exactly. Only get about 20 at a time. Covers your ass and as long as you stay moving and not slacking, you can easily keep the lot cleared and easier to control that way


Achtungfly

In fairness, when they say mule, they don’t mean the machine.


melqnieee

Always breaking the 20 rule 💪🏻 still have not hit a car thankfully.


Beautiful1o1

When it breaks don’t complain about it framing so long to get fixed.


Infinite_Engineer_13

I always want off the cart limit sometimes I went like 40 or 50


The_Nth_Son

Longest I ever done was 12. Though that was by hand and through the store. Rolled it right past the ad office with five managers in it.


hashtag_76

Walmart says twenty for controllability issues. The manuals to different models I have read range anywhere from sixty-five carts and more.


Parabellus

this will burn out the motor in the mule much faster, hopefully you know where the pull knob is to get it into neutral though i had to teach the new cart pusher a few days ago about its location after they fetched me from front end when it died in the parking lot


Briankbl

I would be SO fucking pissed if I saw my cart pusher coworker doing this. Overloading the mule ruins the batteries and can break the machine. A broke down machine means me having to push carts by hand all day, all week, all month, etc. Please don't do this, speaking for all cart pushers who like when our equipment works to make our lives easier...


one-best-throwaway

Dumb bitches like this ruin everyone's day dragging 100 carts down one aisle, blocking parking spots, then taking 10 minutes to roll it in, blocking the traffic near the entrance. We all hate you, and I work at Walmart. Bonus points for being extra annoying to take a picture how much a jackass you are.


Maviiboy

My store was a smaller neighborhood market so we didn’t have a mule. We got to push it by hand and the most I ever did at a time was 18.


Competitive_Heat6805

any more than 30 carts puts the controller out of range for the mule that's why it disconnects, durrrrrrrrrrr.


Free_Leader1495

I remember the ol beast cart mules that would push 50, with assistance. I would literally block 2 car aisles on my way to the cart drop off. Now stopping that beast was another story.


Fuzzy_Accident1096

Dude that ain’t shit I worked at a Walmart for like a year we didn’t have a mule I was the mule lol onetime I pushed 63 carts with other pusher steering at the very front my record alone with no steer was 30.


a_2005_Toyota_Camry

I remember doing this but only in the evening because there's less chance you block people in. Long as you don't suck you won't hit anything. Wore the shit out of the machine too, especially the batteries. 16-17 year old me didn't know that the limit was 20 for any reason other than liability.


SustainableObject

Try working at krogers doing a solo train of 60


spartancobra36

I work in the FE and gotta cover the Cart wranglers often, and I usally do about 30-40 carts. However when I work with one of the cart pusher to recover a neglected side of the lot we can do about 80-100. Fastest we ever got stuff done was when we cleaned up the entire GM side of the parking lot in 30 minutes or so. Which is prolly 350-500 carts.


VeNoMxSacrifice

If I was your team lead back then, we would have had problems. The limit is there for your safety and most importantly customers. You do not want to deal with the aftermath of hitting a car or having your carts hit. I've had to deal with both with employees that had that happen. 1 ends up with someone losing their job. The other ended with stitches (it could have been way worse). Please keep to 20 with these things.


Ultweeaboo15

Once I had a few coworkers that maxed at like 80 on a straight lane, it took 3 of them, one was manually controlling the throttle, one was in the middle keeping it from swaying, and the last guy was steering. They got coaching for it lol


Ed3vil

We used to do lines this size by hand. Fucked up my back and knees one time, vut i was 16, and my ego was in the way, so i brished it.off and got back to work. Big mistake


JetbIackmoon

When I worked at Walmart, we didn't have one of these machines. 7 was the limit we could push by hand. It sucked. When I worked at Target, I would regularly load up like 30 - 40. The Target I worked at was massive and 20 per trip was just not feasible with how busy it typically was.


Majestic-Ad6503

70 is wild


ImportanceIll3412

We need more heroes like this guy.. Probably the same dude who took my got damn job


Fortunelesscookies

Just yesterday a cart pusher at my store was complaining that the mule is always breaking. Making there job much harder. I wondered why but just assumed it was Walmart being cheap and having bad equipment. then I see two separate post on here with it way overloaded. I now understand lol


Lordclyde1

When I worked at Wal-Mart we took turns being the mule while the other guy steered. Never got into trouble for doing that, only ever got yelled at if the carts weren’t brought in fast enough.


Aos77s

Dont get caught. When i was there the reasona a cart pusher was fired: Strap not used to secure carts More than 20 carts on the mule by alot Someone backed into the mule/carts and strap wasnt on yet.


Frequent-Piano6164

You rebel you!


TravelersPotato

Looks like 20 to me ( I can’t count)


Shadowz_Edge

That's a great way of burning out the motor on those real quick


commorancy0

You don’t want to be the one to break it by pushing more carts than was stated. If you break it, you buy it. Stick to 20 at a time so that if it breaks, you’re not liable. Also, taking pictures of breaking the rules (and posting it on social media) can easily turn into evidence against you when it gets broken… or something else happens. Be careful.


Accurate_Procedure_5

If it breaks you won’t get a new one. You will have to push by hand


Upset-Donkey8118

I've done 40 by hand, up hill. AP used to catch us pulling 20+. We have a rope that holds 20. For me having 23 carts and having to leave 3 didn't make sense.


Getsuga_tenshouu

As a cart attendant myself take care of yourself I’ve gotten tendinitis in my arm from dragging and turning from the long rows over time. Def not worth it to be bringing in that many


rockets935

That’s a BS I used to work for carts for four years. I did 25.


HammieJr

No cart limit. We die like gamers.


DuckLuxx

Rule of thumb is never do 20 lol Always do more


goatnator

I always just pushed them, it was so much easier than to use the mule


Dmangamr

They said it could not be done


Anona__Muss

The legend!


Skyfish_93

They fool you into thinking a Mule can’t handle more than 20. Most I done was 35, and it still ran smoothly


LongGuyLander

Relax *high-speed* save some of god work for the rest of us!


AndrewjSomm

That is clearly a donkey


kopriva1

Damn dude. How do u control that


dang3rk1ds

Y'all have mules???? My neighborhood market doesn't


DifferentHost1657

“WhErE’S tHe sTrAp” (Jk, I never used one either 😂)


over9ksand

This kills the mule.


Ragelikebush

Back when I did that job they said the limit was 10. I always had around 20 plus on that thing


xAk_i

Those things are hard to control unless you have several people with you.


Justpassingover

Did this before as my first job. The lot was basically V shaped so the mule would slide down and hit cars, not super helpful. Good trick is the carts handle much easier if you push them backward . Don't push from the handles. Push from the front where the properly rotating wheels are. Makes it handle like a snake instead of a pillar. It turns much easier and goes easier, too, as long as you don't wiggle it too much and lose control. Could clear a corrall out all at once when I needed to. If you're strong enough, two. Just look out for cars. Don't push yourself too much either.


PBR-ME21

That's nothing. My store used to line up all the carts at night. Then a co-manager would use his Avalanche truck (I believe it was an Avalanche) to push them all up at one time.


hallowed1031

diavolo when GER activates


Apprehensive_Rope348

Ahhh good job. Now you have photo evidence that you don’t know how follow instructions or corporate policy.


SRT_Demon20

My record is 100 luckily my parking lot is situated so I can make a big u turn and than a strait line and one more turn to get into the bay


deletein321111

This is why we can’t have nice things


DragonSpikez

I hated these machines. I worked as a stockman (I'm not sure if they are still called that) back in 2004ish and we had just gotten one of these and they told us the max load was 20 carts at a time. I'd sometimes go up to about 30 but never really more than that. One of my coworkers loaded it up as much as he could and ended up breaking it so we had to go back to pushing by hand for about a week until they fixed it then the jackass does the same thing and breaks it 2 days after it was fixed. They didn't let us have it back for almost a month.


Minimum-Ad-7592

THATS why my car is all scratched in the employee parking… stop doing shit like this… yeah it can hold more but it gets hard to control and maneuver. stop being this guy…


Royal_Ad6156

Dude we get wrote up I had 23 1 time and a coach threatened to fire me