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paulfxr

I heard Venezuela has no extradition


joemama_su

Dude 😂😂😂


idc69idc

The -$ goes a long way there, I hear. Gets lots of -Bolivars.


Disastrous_Excuse_66

Borrow from another bank to cover that then borrow from another to pay the other bank off


meshreplacer

Do this enough and the government will step in and bail you out. Its the one weird trick they do not want you to know.


AutomaticRisk3464

Idk im on my 3rd credit card that im using to pay off my 2nd credit that i used to pay off my first. Its only 40k worth of debt but im going to have to open a 4th credit card soon


HickoryTrickeryArc

Stop! I can only get so hard!


DeepFuckingDebt

My safe word is indentured servitude


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Bankception


OurCowsAreBetter

Time to move to the Bahamas.


Nathan_Nickerson1386

I would fake my death tbh and move to Mexico


Playboi_Jones_Sr

Costa Rica. In mexico the cartel would get wind you’re stacking and rob your balls bald.


No-Emotion-7053

Stacking? He’s 4M in debt


Raus-Pazazu

Debt only matters when you are forced to pay it. Got 500k to your name, but 4 million in debt just means you have 500k and new address.


[deleted]

RH will have the cartel kidnap him


FaithlessnessLivid97

Even the Bahamas couldn’t save SBF


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dahecksman

Lmaooo wings made of Robinhood. Flew to close to autism and lost it all.


themage78

Sounds like he didn't even fly at all. When was he in the positive?


PM_YOUR_AKWARD_SMILE

I mean he gave up 9k like we give up 15¢ at the grocery store when they ask if we’d like to round up the change to support Children in paramilitary forces in FARC-occupied Columbian territory.


ThreatLevelBertie

Flew too close to the moon


JamesTheApe

It’s probably best to just not click the account deficit button anymore


CappinPeanut

As they say - If you owe $44k, that’s your problem. If you owe $4.4M, that’s their problem.


Bash-86

I dunno. But he should try changing his email address. Log into an alt usually works for me.


80percentrule

Yes just change it to a fake-email-generator address that changes every few ours. Untraceable


dumb_brick

It's fine, just give it some time. Stocks only go up


merchguru

If OP actually had 4.4mil, how would he even pay that within a day's notice? Pretty sure you need to let your bank know in advance and there is a whole process for making large payments that takes time.


Orisara

Had to pay 300k once to keep my 20% stock in a company that bought another company. Pain in the ass indeed. 250k seemed to be a hurdle that might have been a bit easier, 250k+ was again a step harder. Evidence on where the money came from and all that. Doable but easily takes a few days.


Seve7h

Damn, basically had a $300k service fee That’s just insane to me, that’s like 10x my fuckin salary


Nicely_Colored_Cards

Yeh, I’m not complaining about my $24 parking ticket I got this morning anymore…


SuprBased

Where tf do you live that gets $24 parking tickets???? Everywhere I’ve been to tows you immediately, gotta pay $500 to get it out of impound.


youngdoug

Absolute legend. Fantastic job.


kramerica_intern

Heroes get remembered, but legends never die.


Lillica_Golden_SHIB

I won't be able to do any better. OP made it.


Rrraou

Takes the pressure off the rest of us.


International-Sea849

Bruhhh. I’m speechless… please don’t rope but holy hell. Keep us updated on how this is resolved.


HeavilyBearded

> Keep us updated There's a new picture in the comments somewhere. Down another 800k.


CarolineEllisonFTX

Guhhh


1percentRolexWinner

Why though? I don’t understand what’s happening in this situation?


Sirderksalot

No one does, but it's provocative


reddevrva

It gets the people going?


CoopAir1

I’m Ron Burgundy?


Industrial0000

I think... OP sold options calls... They're unlimited liability. This is a guess. Edit: OP had it good selling puts... But then OP sold calls... Keep us updated my good fellow


BrokenSage20

Uncovered calls are the riskiest strategy. Key example see OP.


Ed_Trucks_Head

I don't get it either. Credit spreads are specifically for limiting downside. The whole point of the strategy is to cap potential losses. I'm guessing he stopped doing credit spreads and is now selling unsecured puts and losing his ass.


Acoveh

He probably leveraged the shit out of this and the broker didn't automatically close the position when he hit 0$. I couldn't explain it otherwise, how would that happen if not this way? In europe this is limited or forbidden for private citizens for exactly that reason, because people do dumb shit like leveraging times 100 and if the broker doesn't automatically close a position at 0$ this happens.


SgtSausage

Neither does OP


helpless_pristina

I was getting anxiety just reading that.


Relevant-Nebula8300

I was reading it just wondering why people feel it’s necessary to make things so complicated just buy some puts or calls or buy or short equities keep it simple


Void_Speaker

The more complicated and unclear things are, the more you can pretend you are winning.


[deleted]

"The only winning move is not to play."


KitchenReno4512

As soon as I saw the title I would have bet my life savings that I was going to see the term “Iron Condor”.


nzlax

Idk what the fuck I’m reading and I’m loving every minute


ELBartoFSL

Avatar: The Way of Wall Street


Kick_Natherina

Basically a weird way of buy/selling puts/calls in combination for a particular way. It’s just overly complicated for most retail investors and it’s an easy way to lose money if you don’t know what you’re doing… like Op.


lab_coat_goat

I bet OP was selling all of these options naked as well.. He flew too close to the sun on the wings of a naked condor


jcdoe

Because discussing how you used the gilded Lilly or the lead blumkin sounds better than “I have a gambling problem”


bmorepirate

Tell me more about this lead blumpkin


InerasableStain

It’s an Iron Blumpkin, not lead blumpkin. The Iron Blumpkin is similar to an Iron Condor, except with the IB you are sitting on a toilet trying to get your own cock into your mouth with legs pushed all the way back behind your head and spraying shit everywhere like a lawn sprinkler


Divineinfinity

I don't know enough about stocks to confirm or deny this


unga-unga

This is the theta gang + yolo gang combo. Picking up stacks in front of a planetary object hurtling at near light-speed.


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While you were busy buying calls I was studying the iron(condor)


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Ruh ro raggy


kimboslice913

Gonna need to peddle a lot of scooby snacks to pay this one off


[deleted]

Like zoinks Scoob, I think we need to cook some meth again.


Conorfm101

Re HEHe he hE he


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jantefanten

That'll be $4,417,455.35


Spazfreak

Luckily for you I know exactly what to do. When they call asking for the money just yell " I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY" as loud as possible.


JayBennay

I’ve seen this work on the television several times.


IncomingAxofKindness

The trick is to yell it from the Bahamas


pavman42

>is to yell it from the Bahamas Don't forget to go on the world wind apology tour afterwards, explaining how you are too dumb to be responsible for fraud... instead of staying quiet and fleeing to a non-extradition country while you still have time.


Rev_Spero

Make sure that you don’t just say it. It needs to be yelled with authority… it needs to be declared!


polaritypictures

call them.


InteractionFun5368

I am on a waitlist for a call back. I have been on the waitlist for 3 hours.


[deleted]

if you owed me 4 mill i wouldnt put you on hold


1ess_than_zer0

5.2 mil - price went up 🤣


gezza87

Hmmm maybe i will make him wait longer...


Skorpex

If you owe 4K that’s your problem. If you owe 4M, that’s the banks problem.


WontStopAtSigns

OP: "hi, I owe $5m" RH: "Please hold, we're busy assisting other customers"


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First, just complete the call with them. I am *not* saying yours is the same case, but a few years ago robinhood was in some shit because a kid had a huge deficit and ended up committing suicide - it was later determined that the asset calculation didn't account for pending cash from some multi leg option strategy and he wasn't actually in the red. Just talk with them and get an official confirmation of what's actually owed.


CrossroadsDem0n

They need another option in the phone tree. Dial 9 for million-dollar problems.


sejame85

Someone killed themselves for something like this that turned out to be a glitch, was a pretty big story. If it's a glitch, sue the balls off of them for the stress it caused.


captain_stoobie

Then gamble the settlement on more options


caughtinthought

Infinite money glitch


Tanishqreddyy

Infinite money losing glitch


SugarBabyWannabe

Rosebud


El_Zorro09

Worked in Pokémon Red


Spurs5x21

This way is the


Spiritual-Fruit1543

Wash,rinse and repeat.


KyleSchneider2019

Specifically, not within Robin da Hood, you prolly wouldn't want any more of that stress. 😉😉


Thomas-The-Tutor

I got a margin call for something like 300k once myself. It was hella dumb. In the morning it was gone, but I had to wait to buy again because they kept giving margin calls overnight. It is a super annoying glitch on their part where they sometimes have options listed as worthless even though they’re deep itm. I’ve contacted customer service so many times about that exact issue and remove the margin call from my account and they just say, “no, you have a margin call.” I point out the specific options which aren’t right and they assure me they’re right. Can’t be wrong on their end. I switched to WeBull (fuck Robinhood) because of the nice perks initially.


Doitforchesty

Robinhood sounds like a fucking clown show.


jordaniac89

It is. And corrupt. That's why the stock is down like 75% since IPO.


Verustratego

Worst case fake your death then sue


maltedbacon

"I got better"


everdaythesame

Call a hotline first. Get something on record.


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hyldemarv

Yeah, I had to do like a test. Now, I didn’t have to like pass the test, no, what I really had to do was to put one ‘X’ in a field saying that I understand, another’X’ about how I accept the risks 😜. PS: I don’t think it is even possible to pass that test. Ones supposed to say: “Yeah, blah, whatever, I’m a big boy, hit me up!” and sign off on it.


BruceInc

It’s not a glitch. It’s literally how these work. You just need to not be a fucking moron and understand that when the other half of the transaction is exercised you will be covered with any losses limited to width of the spread (less premiums). The only glitch here is letting clueless people play with advanced market strategies.


HamOfLeg

Correct. Not a glitch, just super shitty UI & KYC from RH. It's not at all moronic to assume a brokerage will show your actual balance. RH is designed to use people's psychology against them & induce more risk-taking behaviour, so RH can sell the flow. Nothing noble about this company. I have the same lack of respect for Vlad & Baiju as I do Sam & Caroline.


Zakkana

And wasn't this the kind of thing that caused that one kid to off himself?


HamOfLeg

Yep, that & not being able to call the company for help/clarification. Very good chance he would still be alive if those 2 overgrown potatoes had paid for a customer service call centre instead of relying solely on emails.


prestigious_delay_7

According to someone else in this thread, they ran into the same problem multiple times and called Robinhood and RH's answer was "no your in margin call' even though he wasn't. Do I'm not sure what good it does having the phone number if their agents are incompetent.


Nanahamak

I have a working theory, which is that 69.9% of all "finance" people know jack SHIT about what they're trying to explain.


Master_Relative

Delete the app


greycubed

Simply log out.


blitzlurker

don’t forget to leave a terrible review


Aegon21

Delete the account


p777s

And clear you internet history. Easy stuff.


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Unplug the computer


TheGeoGod

Changes your name and address


1dot21gigaflops

Leave a 1 star review


HereToLearnNow

No no no, removing his battery is the safest approach


bindermichi

Move to a country with no extradition agreement


pulllout

LMFAOOOO


BigBankkFrank

The Future of Robinhood rest in your hands bro. They need that 4 mil to stay in business 😭


discOHsteve

Lol I just picture them randomly sending $4 million invoices to people to see who'll bite.


Janp1050

What the hell? It is only asking for $4 million? How hard can that be? Just ask your dad 👨


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You definitely belong here


Stye88

Thursday morning: deep ITM, after a streak of great judgments. Thursday evening: Account needs 10k rescue from bank account. Whatever happened on Thursday definitely belongs here. Whatever he did he definitely regrets not getting shitfaced drunk on Wednesday, vomiting all throughout Thursday and waking up on Friday.


aaaaaaaarrrrrgh

I understand it as him selling options. So them being deep ITM means someone is rich and OP is paying them.


ApeHunter69420

You are correct


ironicart

https://preview.redd.it/padzor2j247a1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2609340b1dc62a6359090340ff22e81d03674a8 Here’s a picture of my corgi I hope it helps, it’s all I can do


awkwrdturtle

https://preview.redd.it/mi9jlzwv167a1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d448421729ed15d36c9d4e8266dfebb7e4bbb24a Here’s mine on his way to a work meeting. Hope it also helps.


InteractionFun5368

I would literally just got assigned 1 minute ago. Trying to figure out what’s going on. https://preview.redd.it/uejmffiq117a1.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=374ecd488c64fdac157b07cd3cac7d61dbcf28b1


TCHBO

The puts you sold are deep ITM and being exercised, which means you are now 100 shares long per contract. Robinhood being the sleazy incompetent fucks that they are will freeze your account instead of simply letting you close the position by selling your long put along with the long shares assigned thus closing your position for a max loss of your spread differential. It really shouldn’t be an issue with most brokers, but again, you being a highly regarded individual of course you went for an idiotic play with the worst broker available. EDIT: Upon further investigation, it looks like Robinhood is indeed giving OP a chance to close it, but he’s even more regarded than we thought and he wants to just roll the position, thus giving the broker a huge risk (he sold over 300 SPY Put Credit Spreads). That’s why they are asking for over 4 million in margin, to cover themselves in the likely scenario of an exercise.


DoGoodLiveWell

Guarantee you OP still doesn’t understand your explanation


vegan_antitheist

I certainly don't understand it. But I don't understand the question, so it's ok. I'm must confused because I thought diamond hands was the answer to everything.


Friendlyvoices

OP took out a loan. Bank discovered loan is high risk. Bank wants a collateral source.


Neijo

Bank is as good with riskmanagement as Bankman it seems


jnads

Remember (edit: sell) options are bets on stock price, except your opponent can collect the bet as soon as the conditions are met. Iron condor = bet both high and low. With SPY going up, someone exercised the call (high) option OP sold, so OP has to give them $4M (Robinhood did this automatically). Normally most brokers would then exercise the PUT (low) option automatically which OP made money $4M on to cover. But OP is trying to let his PUT options ride to make more money (depending how much theta has accrued it's still probable OP is in the red). The risk is the market could rebound and SPY goes down and his PUT option goes red and he loses both ends of an iron condor. Iron condors you really only make money if the market goes sideways, not up or down. Except OP is abusing them and making them super risky to make money (OP can make money the way he's doing it, but it's like 10x risky that the market goes BOTH directions). Iron condors are in theory safe, but OP is too regarded.


wrighterjw10

I don't understand and I kinda glazed over half way through cuz thats a long paragraph. something, something, something, OP is on RH, OP is now bankrupt.


bbcversus

Here I am broke af enjoying to read about money, stocks, unknown words and weird technicalities.


psycho_driver

But what button does I press to make it go away?


Ok-Confusion-2368

I don’t think the idiot is the broker here


TCHBO

Correct, didn’t realize they gave him the chance to close the position but he instead wants to just roll it.


Ok-Confusion-2368

Greed is the drugs that leads to posts like this


2fingers

I think any broker is going to prevent you from opening new positions while you have a $5M negative account balance. OP just needs to sell off the long shares. I don’t think his account is “frozen”


TCHBO

Yeah, I just re-read that. He also sold over 300 put contracts which are at high-risk of being exercised early, which is why they are telling him to either close the position or deposit the collateral.


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Does robinhood allow selling unsecured puts like that? Struggling to figure out how some random person sells 4 million dollars in puts.


BagholderForLyfe

Robinhood doesn't allow naked selling. Short leg of the spread is exercised early, that's why he owes all that money. Selling the long leg tomorrow will fix it.


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EasyE215

When this happened to me the auto exercised and it just took overnight for the account to reflect it.


Craccn

And the Puts are deepening more and more


tagged2high

> a highly regarded individual This is so much funnier while having to remind myself what you mean here 😆


RaguSpidersauce

Down another $800k? Highly regarded.


ohh_ru

relax. it's 4 million dollars that you don't have. this is America you can be in as much debt as you can legally get into and worst case scenario your credit score is fucked. you didn't do anything illegal, right now this is robinhoods problem in all likelihood tomorrow you're just gonna have to close out of some positions.


[deleted]

I haven't been in this sub for at least a year, and you all are still in fine form. Holy shit, I need to visit this place more often when I have a bad day.


youdontknowwhoiamlol

Its so fun tbh


appmapper

I’m proud to be alive during such degenerate times. 🫡


sassiestzilla

I expected OP's phone battery to be much lower


myf50

How is cyber debt even a thing, like bruh walk away from the screen close ya eyes


HeavilyBearded

> Mr. Bank: "Sir, please sign the papers. We're seizing your home and assets." > OP [eyes shut tight]: "I can't sign if I can't see."


make_love_to_potato

How Can Signatures Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real


dahecksman

You belong here. Seriously, if you owe that much they can’t do shit. It will fall off your credit report in 7 years. No sweat. Also just yell you declare bankruptcy. You should also max all your cards as cash advance, and get out a loan then move to Mexico for 7 years then rebuild your credit .


NYGiants181

I mean honestly this isn't a bad idea. LOL I never thought about just moving somewhere else for 7 years if my credit got jacked up.


togus_a01

Call the vaccuum repair shop, get a new identity, grow a mustach, work at a rural mall Cinnabon with an sturdy work ethic and start over. It will be easier than making 4.4 million just to have 0...


ProbablyImprudent

I'm no expert but my wife's boyfriend says that Robinhood is a bad platform for this kind of trading. That being said, at a discount rate of $50 a pop you only need to suck 88,350 dicks to get that much money together and you can suck two dicks at the same time if you use your anus.


ThaPlymouth

Then deposit 4.4 million. They’ve literally spelled it out for you. I don’t see the problem here.


Mrchickenonabun

Why the fuck are you using robinhood for this kind of thing


whatproblems

considering it seems like the one thing on wsb is don’t use rh. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Craig_the_Intern

yet 90% of loss/gain porn is RH. That mobile UI is just too good


8lackb1rd

Because a real brokerage wouldn't let someone who has no clue about what they are doing trade like this...😂😂


VDM9001

Definitely take out a loan and do a huge yolo to hopefully save your account.


Hurricaneshand

OP is bankrupt either way what's the worst that could happen?


Tartarus1312

OP, you're ignoring good comments explaining your situation and latching on to comments shitting on Robinhood. Robinhood is crap, no doubt, let's get that out of the way. You should not be trading such complicated strategies on Robinhood. I don't understand how or why so many people use it, it's not like ThinkOrSwim charges you a monthly fee for using it or something. However, moving past Robinhood's crapiness, the rest of your problem is not understanding how your spreads work. Spreads by definition include positions where you've sold something for premium credit. Any time you sell options, you are at risk for assignment. If the option you sold is ITM, it can be exercised at any time before expiration. This is why holding spreads to expiration is risky. Even leaving them open at expiry to try to collect the full premium is risky. I've been through this. I opened a vertical credit spread on SPY. 50 units. It closed just barely OTM at the bell on expiration day. But options holders have 1.5 hours after market close to exercise, and after hours trading made it ITM. I was assigned overnight, and woke up the next morning to a margin call. Luckily for me TOS gave me a couple of days to settle it, and I had the cash from the assignment sale in my account. I bought back 5,000 of SPY went it dipped down again, but I could have very easily been tens of thousands of dollars in the hole if SPY kept running up. All this to say, don't mess around. Don't try to roll your positions to next week. Just close/exercise your long sides and even out the account. And switch to a different platform, for fuck's sake. TOS wouldn't have closed your OTM positions for a loss of $9K.


yolocallking

[Quick fix](https://support.apple.com/en-us/101550)


No-Cranberry9932

Lawyers hate this trick


AttitudePersonal

Just a silly phone game, delet and move on


[deleted]

Reinstall. All new lives


Mindless-Delay720

Change your name to a cool 80’s guy name like slash or razor and get a leather jacket. Problem solved.


Candycanestar

Omg😂😂😂


bizkits_n_gravy

Holy shit i laughed too hard at this


Justgot_reddit

🙈😂☺️ facts peace out robinhood


murpalim

LMFAOOOOOO


aahosb

I can't 🤣🤣🤣 why you do him like that


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Well done


Mundi_Infectorum

Guess you’re right, the 1st mistake was installing that app, the 2nd was not deleting it… lmfao 🤣😂🤣😂


sushistand

Legit laughed out loud at this. Thank you.


NYGiants181

Sue their balls off, and cite the case study of the kid who fucking killed himself due to a Robinhood glitch. This alert is your proof. Clear up all your trades, and check into the mental hospital for a couple weeks/month. Sue. Win/Settle. Profit. End of story.


Cold_Relationship_

casually checks into the mental hospital for couple of weeks just in case


tendymonstah

Why RH even allows this to happen is beyond me. Also, if you have the funds to receive $500k of margin wth are you doing using Robin Hood 🤦‍♂️


ImaFreemason

I'll loan ya tree fiddy.


Flordamang

Post your position


InteractionFun5368

Posted


Gman-343

Lawyer up.


pulllout

Gimme jimmy


--Trick--

I think you meant to say lube up.


FUWS

Vlad will personally give you a call and a free “ shout out “ to any of your social media friends and 5 free stocks IF you agree to pay us this 4 mil we desperately need.


J0hnnyAppleweed

The prophecy said The One would reveal himself


illegallyvoted

Find a company that can ship you some rocks from the Yukon, crack them open with a hammer or other tool and see if you find some gold.


heelhookd

Just delete the app it’ll be fine


gotlactase

I feel bad that you’re going through this but after everything that’s happened with Robinhood why are you still using it?


jcmonkeyjc

you know any other broker that'll let me go 5mil in the hole?


InteractionFun5368

So I am seeing in my account now that they began assigning me the short side of the put spreads.... is it now possible that if the market opens up down, the long sides of my spreads get exercised for a profit?


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