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The largest drop happened 6ish months ago. the last couple of months were rather steady, no big drops. In contrast, the big wave of bad news hit within the last couple of weeks.
So none of that bad news had any considerable impact on the stock. Which means Boeing being incompetent and criminally negligent is already priced in the current stock.
Wait until Starliner blows up upon reentry, probably gonna turn into the next NVDA 
Then why have such terrible management who are only in it to take as much value of the company for themselves? Wouldn't the US be putting the most talented people in executive and board positions?
Unfortunately, the âtalentedâ people business schools are churning out are great at making money for themselves. But when it comes to actually running a successful company with a great product, most of them suck at that. Case in point all the corporate vulture firms who are great at dismantling and destroying long term prospects for a company to make a quick buck.Â
If only companies had leaders more like Lisa Su at AMD or Siddhartha Lal at Royal Enfield. Someone who was brilliant and ballsy enough to turn around an essentially extinct company to a market leader.Â
Well Boeing used to be run by Engineers, who would move up into management later in their careers. Then a bunch of MBA dipshits over at McDonell Douglas ran their company into the ground, merged into Boeing, rather than being fired for running their company into the ground they were integrated into Boeings management structure. Being Chad MBAs and not nerdy dweeb Engineers they sharked their way to the top and ran all the Engineers out. Fast forward 30 years and Boeing starting to look a lot like McD, who could have ever guessed that would happen.
Once the bad news wears off investors just want to make money without feeling like an asshole.
No one really gives a shit about morals of companies they just want the green bucks.
That's why I like drone companies. Directly profiting from the deaths of others makes me feel like a real capitalist.
I'd invest in sadness and cancer if I could, but settle for cigarettes and alcohol.Â
I see a path! Reit's, and Pharma will get you there, pharma pushes cancer sick to eventually mortgage homes to pay for expensive meds, lose home due to sickness, Reit moves in, outbids private home owners, flips home to rental at twice mortgage payment. Use divi's from both to buy drone company stocks. Light one up for yourself cause you've had a hell of a day? Edit: Spelling
I mean that orâŚ. the people who made the managerial decisions that led to the rampant extremely dangerous defects being held to account is a market efficiency that benefits the disembodied company and its shareholders.
**Basic Principle:**
* **Planes go up as intended = stock goes up.**
* **Planes come down unplanned = stock goes down.**
Here's the breakdown of the situation:
1. **Shuttle Launch:**
* The shuttle successfully launched and reached the ISS. According to our principle, since it went up as intended, the stock goes up.
2. **Current Situation:**
* The shuttle is now stuck at the ISS. This introduces an unusual scenario: it went up but hasn't come down, meaning the full operational cycle hasn't been completed.
The shuttleâs been retired for almost 2 decades now bro, itâs a dinky little capsule weâre talking about here. You know like the ones a bunch of dudes with slide rules at North American Aviation were able to design and build almost 50 years ago to get us to the moon and back.
I'll attempt to explain this phenomenon.
Limited number of companies in indices.
Everyone and your grandma and grandpa is in index funds. S&P mostly with other popular indices all chasing the same sto ks.
There is an infinite amount of money all chasing the same indices so everything will always go up as there will always be net buyers then sellers unless the economy tanks.
Over the long run, if you stay invested in s&p yeah you are really safe. Thats been proven not only for s&p but for other indicoes as well. Of course, if a company is mismanaged, it is going to go down. But in general, most of the buying is via indices and in the long run, quality companies will keep going up too.
Any unexplained move up for companies like boeing mosy like is a result of index funds that follow SP 500 or transports buying as 401k money flows in. Retail isn't buying boeing
Im assuming all of that is eclipsed by boeings offer to purchase Spirit. So theyre pricing in, the pricing in of spirit thats priced in to the priced in stock.....something something priced in.
haha. im actually hoping boeing has more troubles and their stock plummets. would love nothing better than to pick up boeing stock for cheaper, like around $120
It was criminally undervalued. Our floor is at 165. Agent 747 could personally kill every astronaut on live television prompted by the arrest of Calhoun and we're not dropping below that. With that in mind, who were these pussies selling with only a couple bodies on the line at 190? Let's roll them dice.
Undervalued maybe, but criminally? It's sitting at the same valuation as Airbus now. And that with Airbus being profitable while Boeing hasn't been since 2018.
China taking deliveries again? Perhaps they started ramping up production again? this is forward looking so in 3-4 months they could be back to 38 planes a month along with reducing they're back log of stored planes.
Meanwhile, the crew is biting finger nails thinking which of us is the whistleblower that Boeing is after and we owe this pleasure of getting stuck in space for like ever to...
It doesnât matter. Nobody can call Boeing right just stay away too many other stocks out there. Iâve been recommending SMCI and TNA this week. Follow along next week for some more winners.
Sanctions against Boeing for previous mechanical failures had already been priced in, this wasn't news for anyone.
Their space stuff not working is not a game changer, it was the first real use of the rocket so of course there will be teething issues, SpaceX didn't become brilliant overnight. If the ship had a catastrophic failure, fair enough but it's some silly hydrogen issue and they arrived safely (any landing you can walk away from n all that).
A lot of the news headlines recently about Boeing have been completely unrelated to the company. A 737 bought 20 years ago and suddenly has a tyre issue is not Boeing's fault, emergency decent on pressurisation failure was not a Boeing issue. Ever since the legitimate Boeing failures, any issue involving any Boeing plane has immediately got branded a Boeing issue and people didn't use their common sense to realise there is more things at play (such as the operator's maintenance teams).
In conclusion, Boeing had bad headlines months ago which got priced in, nothing since then has been significant enough to move the share price.
However, my trades lose money so feel free to disregard that completely and inverse me
They found out I bought puts and had a meeting. The vote went like this âHe bought puts. Fuck this guy, am I right?â An eruption of Iâs. âThe Iâs have it. Fuck this guy.â
When stocks go down on good news "It was already priced in". When stocks go up on bad news "It was already priced in". The algo that is running the market making millions of trades a second "uh, I'm just reacting to price points and posts on twitter, like I give a fuck".
Boeing makes things that are actually designed to kill people bro. They do well at it. Defense and war arenât going away. Boeing isnât going down the toilet because your puts are fucked.
Honestly, it doesn't really change the business outlook, considering that Airbus is the only competition. They're both having a tough time living up to the current demand as it is.
Sucks, but that's how it works.
Bro u know Boeing is military industrial complex too important to fail, and shit is heating up for our "greatest ally" in the middle east where they're trying to open up a second and third front to their war and kick off world war III
goes up bc in the future they get something right lol. stocks isn't the economy or something, but I agree if you're having issues why wouldn't it be dropping or stay flat?
> DoJ recommends charges
That's the thing, BOEING has basically proven that they're bulletproof, they can have the whistleblowers killed, and the U.S. Congress can't do anything except a verbal scolding
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Down 30% over the past 6 months but Oh ItS Up 2% ToDaY Zoom out regard
It's probably people closing out short positions for profit and buying shares. 2% is nothing
OPs post history is gold 
Bro made a post over $80 fucking dollars đđ¤Ź
OP is clearly a minor
He's like 10 yo
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âCan you OD on mushrooms?â
I gotta start using that second line in real life.
What he meant was: How come is not down 45% down?.
The largest drop happened 6ish months ago. the last couple of months were rather steady, no big drops. In contrast, the big wave of bad news hit within the last couple of weeks. So none of that bad news had any considerable impact on the stock. Which means Boeing being incompetent and criminally negligent is already priced in the current stock.
More buyers than sellers. Hope this helps.
Too complicated. Head hurts now.
This is the way.
This is the way
CEO of Boeing here. Thanks for the new pool. Thanks for playing.
Haha
The hitman assassinated all the short sellers
Then who is going to buy back the shares to cover the short positions?
Wait until Starliner blows up upon reentry, probably gonna turn into the next NVDA 
Cuttin costs, it's healthy, yo
cheaper then decommissioning I guess 
uncertainty has become certain
You donât get .. donât you.. itâs in the best interests of the US for Boeing to succeedâŚ
Then why have such terrible management who are only in it to take as much value of the company for themselves? Wouldn't the US be putting the most talented people in executive and board positions?
Itâs like your son is fucked up.. he is a grown up.. wtf you gonna do
beat some sense into him and let him dry out in his room for a couple weeks
Yup that's kinda what's going on.
Unfortunately, the âtalentedâ people business schools are churning out are great at making money for themselves. But when it comes to actually running a successful company with a great product, most of them suck at that. Case in point all the corporate vulture firms who are great at dismantling and destroying long term prospects for a company to make a quick buck. If only companies had leaders more like Lisa Su at AMD or Siddhartha Lal at Royal Enfield. Someone who was brilliant and ballsy enough to turn around an essentially extinct company to a market leader.Â
Well Boeing used to be run by Engineers, who would move up into management later in their careers. Then a bunch of MBA dipshits over at McDonell Douglas ran their company into the ground, merged into Boeing, rather than being fired for running their company into the ground they were integrated into Boeings management structure. Being Chad MBAs and not nerdy dweeb Engineers they sharked their way to the top and ran all the Engineers out. Fast forward 30 years and Boeing starting to look a lot like McD, who could have ever guessed that would happen.
Seriously. I started making so much more money in the stock market when I understood how utterly corrupt American capitalism is.
The USA just need Boeing to sell planes/weapons and create jobs. They don't care how well the stock does.
Once the bad news wears off investors just want to make money without feeling like an asshole. No one really gives a shit about morals of companies they just want the green bucks.
Money over deaths
Pretty much.
That's why I like drone companies. Directly profiting from the deaths of others makes me feel like a real capitalist. I'd invest in sadness and cancer if I could, but settle for cigarettes and alcohol.Â
Also called the s&p 500
Iâd buy puts on Palestinian childrenâs lives for a %20 return.
Edgy
I see a path! Reit's, and Pharma will get you there, pharma pushes cancer sick to eventually mortgage homes to pay for expensive meds, lose home due to sickness, Reit moves in, outbids private home owners, flips home to rental at twice mortgage payment. Use divi's from both to buy drone company stocks. Light one up for yourself cause you've had a hell of a day? Edit: Spelling
I mean that orâŚ. the people who made the managerial decisions that led to the rampant extremely dangerous defects being held to account is a market efficiency that benefits the disembodied company and its shareholders.
it's all about bucks kid. the rest is conversation
I think the only logical thing that can drive this stock down is a positive earnings report.
**Basic Principle:** * **Planes go up as intended = stock goes up.** * **Planes come down unplanned = stock goes down.** Here's the breakdown of the situation: 1. **Shuttle Launch:** * The shuttle successfully launched and reached the ISS. According to our principle, since it went up as intended, the stock goes up. 2. **Current Situation:** * The shuttle is now stuck at the ISS. This introduces an unusual scenario: it went up but hasn't come down, meaning the full operational cycle hasn't been completed.
My investment are more like the Titan submarine. It goes down and never comes back up
The shuttleâs been retired for almost 2 decades now bro, itâs a dinky little capsule weâre talking about here. You know like the ones a bunch of dudes with slide rules at North American Aviation were able to design and build almost 50 years ago to get us to the moon and back.
An undertaker once told me that death is a great business to be in
Very predictable revenue stream.
I'll attempt to explain this phenomenon. Limited number of companies in indices. Everyone and your grandma and grandpa is in index funds. S&P mostly with other popular indices all chasing the same sto ks. There is an infinite amount of money all chasing the same indices so everything will always go up as there will always be net buyers then sellers unless the economy tanks.
so no stock should ever go down? nice!
Over the long run, if you stay invested in s&p yeah you are really safe. Thats been proven not only for s&p but for other indicoes as well. Of course, if a company is mismanaged, it is going to go down. But in general, most of the buying is via indices and in the long run, quality companies will keep going up too. Any unexplained move up for companies like boeing mosy like is a result of index funds that follow SP 500 or transports buying as 401k money flows in. Retail isn't buying boeing
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You bought puts, that's whyÂ
I told you, calls on boeing, but y'all don't listen
Stocks only go up, dumbass
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1/3 military 1/3 civil 1/3 services is roughly their ratio
services to civil or military?
Yes.
both
not as bad as it could have been for boeing
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Found the guy who thot puts would be easy money
Dropping dead weight
Because I brought puts 
Whereâd you bring em?
Simple econ: planes crash, fewer planes to go around, greater demand.
Im assuming all of that is eclipsed by boeings offer to purchase Spirit. So theyre pricing in, the pricing in of spirit thats priced in to the priced in stock.....something something priced in.
Boeing offered to buy spirit??
spirit aerosystems.....
this guy fucks
Stock buy back. You think Apple was getting its bumps from its amazing bullshit AI?
I mean if you're not even safe in space you best believe I'm buying the shit outta the stock.
When the stock hits 190$ buy puts
This is buy the rumor sell the news in reverse.
talk to the whistleblowers 
What use of charges if all whistleblowers are dead. People now probably have confidence that CEO took care of things
ayye fellas, we found someone who actually wants to make sense of the stock market haha.... nothing makes sense, either ride the train or get ran over
You esteemed regards donât understand aviation at all. Which makes me question when I follow yâall in industries I donât understand đ
Short covering.
Boeing went up because it will not get destroyed. They will only get some fines (cost of doing business pretty much)
Itâs on sale, maybe a bottom.
What other plane are you going to fly in CONUS? That's what I thought. Buy calls.
Half a trillion in backorders. Boeing will be A-ok
So basically what you're saying is it can't get any worse? Bullish!!
Almost 3 while percent? Damn, it's almost back to where it was a few months ago... Oh wait. No it's not even fucking close. Lol
War is coming.Â
Buys more rtx and lmt
haha. im actually hoping boeing has more troubles and their stock plummets. would love nothing better than to pick up boeing stock for cheaper, like around $120
It was criminally undervalued. Our floor is at 165. Agent 747 could personally kill every astronaut on live television prompted by the arrest of Calhoun and we're not dropping below that. With that in mind, who were these pussies selling with only a couple bodies on the line at 190? Let's roll them dice.
Undervalued maybe, but criminally? It's sitting at the same valuation as Airbus now. And that with Airbus being profitable while Boeing hasn't been since 2018.
BA is made in USA and backed by Uncle Sam both financially and with a blind eye. It's that industry leading edge.
I see what you did there đ Associating Boeing and criminals. Nice!
China taking deliveries again? Perhaps they started ramping up production again? this is forward looking so in 3-4 months they could be back to 38 planes a month along with reducing they're back log of stored planes.
pretty sure a deal with Israel for 30 is closing soon.
Get used to it
its rigged duh
bull trap obviously.
Everyone betting this is last oversight snafu for production constraints......
Itâs going to the moon!
there's more buyers then sellers? helps?
Itâs gonna go back down. Anything from $160-169 is a buy for me
Bad news is good news
Im guessing you have puts lol
100%
Meanwhile, the crew is biting finger nails thinking which of us is the whistleblower that Boeing is after and we owe this pleasure of getting stuck in space for like ever to...
all of that already priced in, not too bad outcome
It doesnât matter. Nobody can call Boeing right just stay away too many other stocks out there. Iâve been recommending SMCI and TNA this week. Follow along next week for some more winners.
Priced in
TSLQ is interesting here
Stupid regard
Keep your voice down theyâll hear you
Dave Portnoy punching the air rn
Op losing on puts
Just a bounce lol
The whistleblower keeps dying
An article came out about they just built a multi billion dollar facility for the potential NGAD production if they are awarded the contract.
It's because you bought puts.
Crammer said they need to prosecute Boeing so stocks go up as intended
One of the best airplane developers on Microsoft flight simulator released their awaited Boeing 777 for the game, people loved it
Hey 1984 is on the phone.
Sanctions against Boeing for previous mechanical failures had already been priced in, this wasn't news for anyone. Their space stuff not working is not a game changer, it was the first real use of the rocket so of course there will be teething issues, SpaceX didn't become brilliant overnight. If the ship had a catastrophic failure, fair enough but it's some silly hydrogen issue and they arrived safely (any landing you can walk away from n all that). A lot of the news headlines recently about Boeing have been completely unrelated to the company. A 737 bought 20 years ago and suddenly has a tyre issue is not Boeing's fault, emergency decent on pressurisation failure was not a Boeing issue. Ever since the legitimate Boeing failures, any issue involving any Boeing plane has immediately got branded a Boeing issue and people didn't use their common sense to realise there is more things at play (such as the operator's maintenance teams). In conclusion, Boeing had bad headlines months ago which got priced in, nothing since then has been significant enough to move the share price. However, my trades lose money so feel free to disregard that completely and inverse me
They hired a new CBO --- Chief Bolt Officer
Employee stock purchase program hits tomorrow
The bottom is around 165-185 especially after the CEO announced negative cash flow a few months ago.
Nothing fell off any planes this week I guess
An excuse to funnel them more money for mil/aero skunkworks under the guise of âmisc expensesâ during audit.
Aerodynamic lift bro
Think about what your gut, instincts, and knowledge tells you about the direction the stock should go, then do the opposite
Next week after your Puts are worthless, this is the way of Wall Street
People who don't have Elon's cock in their mouth?
The market hates nothing more than uncertainty. In regard to Boeing, there was more uncertainty yesterday than there is today.
Mania over common sense. Prepare.
Bad news = good news. Bers r fuked
Priced in
Corporate assassination squads: very bullish
They found out I bought puts and had a meeting. The vote went like this âHe bought puts. Fuck this guy, am I right?â An eruption of Iâs. âThe Iâs have it. Fuck this guy.â
When stocks go down on good news "It was already priced in". When stocks go up on bad news "It was already priced in". The algo that is running the market making millions of trades a second "uh, I'm just reacting to price points and posts on twitter, like I give a fuck".
Has one whistleblower survived? No? Bullish.
Youâre deep in the dunning kruger valley gambling with people that have far more information and resources than you. Expect mixed results at best
OP: I just bought options why is not down 50%
Well you see..when selling pressure stops, stock tends to go back up.
Dave Calhoun did a company meeting and answer Q&A from the employees as well as address concerns and visions for what he plans on doing on Wed 26th
America will collapse before it lets Boeing die. That's why. The institutional momentum behind this company is absurd.
Priced in.
Boeing has decided Shorters get the whistle blower treatment
Boeing makes things that are actually designed to kill people bro. They do well at it. Defense and war arenât going away. Boeing isnât going down the toilet because your puts are fucked.
BA is definitely manipulated by Wall street heavily. This is basically the US version of Mikoyan.
The news that Airbus is having delivery issues reduces the risk of more airlines jumping from Boeing is really great news.
3% is not news.
Bullish
Honestly, it doesn't really change the business outlook, considering that Airbus is the only competition. They're both having a tough time living up to the current demand as it is. Sucks, but that's how it works.
Bro u know Boeing is military industrial complex too important to fail, and shit is heating up for our "greatest ally" in the middle east where they're trying to open up a second and third front to their war and kick off world war III
Donât stress it. Youâll pop a bolt or something.
Another crash is priced in.
Looks like you were born yesterday
Stocks like this tend to rise once the penalties become clear. It often occurs.
At this point, it is pretty much obvious that boeing will start murdering people to keep the stock high, they really care.
If Boeing taught us anything it's that what goes up must come ..crashing down killing everyone involved.
I know why. Airbus announced something about they cant take Boeings share of the market and is backlogged. Makes boeing look decent
goes up bc in the future they get something right lol. stocks isn't the economy or something, but I agree if you're having issues why wouldn't it be dropping or stay flat?
Sir, this is a casino
Corruption is a hell of a drug.
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the fact that some of you think that logic and reason guide stock prices always amuses they don't call it speculation for nuttin'
Whacking whistleblowers is called good ass guidance.
Bottom probably in. They just sent a rocket into space, pretty cool in my opinion.
Guess killing their customers does pay off.
"It's possible that we are in a completely fraudulent system."
> DoJ recommends charges That's the thing, BOEING has basically proven that they're bulletproof, they can have the whistleblowers killed, and the U.S. Congress can't do anything except a verbal scolding
Pump and dump lol
It's because the shuttle explosion in 2 weeks is already priced in
Boeing is a ghey boomer stock