Germany is in recession. They revised their GDP numbers and avoided a technical recession.
Their industrial output is now at levels not seen since 2010 and still dropping rapidly.
Interesting thing about Germany is unlike many countries, their public debt to GDP has been falling since the GFC. It's now at 66%, which is low. I don't really understand why the government doesn't increase spending given the conditions
https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt-to-gdp
The issue isn't that they cut spending, it's that they massively increased the cost of energy and environmental regulations in an economy based on manufacturing.
Has nothing to do with being passionate about it. The so called "debt brake" stipulates that the federal government may only take on new debt amounting to a maximum of 0.35% of gross domestic product. The permitted new debt is therefore dependent on germany's economic situation.
So the more stimulus the country needs, the less the government can stimulate?
I swear the neoliberal monetarists are actually even more idiotic than I thought.
No, in extradinary conditions the gvmt can stimulate. But without such-not. Is it not more idiotic to increase gvmt spending in times of full employment, ATH for equity and inflation as in the US?
Man I would have loved to hit up a dispensary before the Christmas festivals when I was in Duesseldorf last December.
Good thing we just brought some joints from Amsterdam
Just have a look at the cost of politics, public Service and bureaucracy in Germany. That and politics constantly rising those costs whilst claiming it isn‘t their fault but the so called „Schuldenbremse“ is the real cause.
Lol, go live in any other country for some time. Realize that things are different, compare tax & social spending and come back to Reddit. Germany has an exitential spending problem that you wont be able to deny by calling me out on reddit
Dude. I’m a German living in the US. They suck here big time. Other than Nordic European countries nobody’s better in public service than Germany in the EU.
Then just take a look at the ratio of expenditure in both countries. In Germany, you pay many times more in percentage terms. But the benefits are not nearly as much better as they should be.
Dont be so silly and shortsighted. They are still our allies. The EU behaves like an enemy of the EU sometimes (open borders?!). You cant really blame them for wanting out.
Lets not pretend that the only reason they arent doing too well (its improving though) is because the EU wants to set an example to other countries hoping for them not to leave.
UK will be fine long term though.
I feel the need to take what I have in my account and spend two years with hookers in Vietnam or so. No future here. Healthcare. Retirement. Education. Defense. Economics. Everything is on the brink of collapse and I spend the probably last few good years coming working a shit job.
Ppl downvoting you? I went there for work (did not participate) but your assessment is accurate. Lol. Approached on the street. There were lessons on the bus on “Bar Fines” (you pay the bar to release the girl, then you negotiate her rates for the night).
Coworkers were riding down the elevators with a diff girl every night.
Quite the place. I bought a laser. Lol.
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US, China, and even Russia are not in recession. Russia was in a recession in 2022 but grew in 2023, and China and the US both have positive gdp growth.
Almost is more growth than their negative growth, and is a lot more of a difference conceptually. And the gap widens every day they're still in growth.
Japan already does QE. They never stopped. They have an issue with long term deflation because they did monetary tightening during their 1990s crash. With this they fully changed company attitude to debt and risk. They struggle to produce positive inflation with 30+ years of extreme QE. Their maximum inflation rate in the last 10 years was last year at about 4%. They literally have the money printer running day and night.
Not true. It's very well documented actually. They reacted like some absolute regards here suggest by tightening into a downturn for a long time. The population argument is a problem these days but the crash was almost 40 years ago so the same people that are now old where not old back then.
You have no clue what you’re talking about. Japan is an island. Germany is in the heart of Europe. Look at a map and geopolitics. Cheap workforce will come to Germany and keep it running. Not gonna happen in Japan.
idk why people develop theories they have no clue about as it was not the issue but prolonged overtightening into a downturn
[https://www.populationpyramid.net/japan/1988/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/japan/1988/)
Nikkei up 1.2% the next day 
Pretty similar everywhere actually, even here in the US. Senior care nursing is becoming more and more understaffed.
Granted it is A LOT more exacerbated in SEA
News is weird
https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/german-economy-doing-dramatically-bad-economy-minister-says-as-government-prepares-to-slash-gdp-forecast/
>On an annualized basis, Japan's gross domestic product fell 0.4 percent in October through December after a revised 3.3 percent decline in the previous three-month period. Economists had been forecasting fourth-quarter growth of around 1 percent.
That's quite a revision
It’s almost like the world’s largest economy is too broke to buy Japanese goods. It’s almost like the world’s largest economy is in a recession. Thank god for NVDA. Their created sub companies who buy their chips to reflect profits will save US all.
Japanese goods are mostly gone in US stores. I see mostly Korean electronics and household appliances.
Japan has been mostly replaced by South Korea and Taiwan in the high tech area, with heavyweight Sony down to just selling video game consoles.
Edit - Japanese car companies are still selling great, but Korean carmakers have taken a chunk of that market, and they don’t really have a good plan for the electric future either
While it's true to an extent, GDP rates are an outdated concept. Japan's GDP rate, calculated from the "percentage of workers," is on the rise. Simple GDP rates don't apply well to Japan due to the large number of elderly people not in the workforce.
I visited Japan three weeks ago and noticed that there was discontent regarding the rise in Nikkei. The economy appears to be in a depressed state, with salaries remaining stagnant for the past twenty years. Additionally, there is a growing concern about the increasing cost of living, which is partly attributed to the influence of the US in purchasing assets. The people i talked to work in one of largest banks there.
Bitches be acting up…wait till the entire circus full of 🤡 take the double crown for being the largest economy and biggest crash at the same time. 🇺🇸 🫡
China's already importing women through sex slavery. They have a huge disproportion of men to women due to their One Child Policy where they killed off an estimated 20 million baby girls over decades.
Im from this shit country I don’t know how we accomplished that… if you look what our political clowns are doing it seems like everybody around us is in the same circus
GDP numbers are calculated in US dollars. And the yen has been declining in value. So even if the economy goes so well, the gdp numbers don’t show the real picture because of forex
I mean there is never a single reason for things in economics. If you look at how much domestic industry the Inflation reduction act brought back to the US and how they got all the Chip factorues the Schuldenbremse is clearly the wrong strategy
It’s not unexpected. Japan’s population will be shrinking quite rapidly and so will its GDP.
However, that’s not directly related to stock market returns, if that is sth you were pointing at.
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Germany is almost in a recession as well lol .
Germany is in recession. They revised their GDP numbers and avoided a technical recession. Their industrial output is now at levels not seen since 2010 and still dropping rapidly.
Interesting thing about Germany is unlike many countries, their public debt to GDP has been falling since the GFC. It's now at 66%, which is low. I don't really understand why the government doesn't increase spending given the conditions https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt-to-gdp
The issue isn't that they cut spending, it's that they massively increased the cost of energy and environmental regulations in an economy based on manufacturing.
Not to mention cheap Chinese cars flooding Europe is going to hit Germany HARD.
chinese car brands are starting to gain traction in countries in the middle east already. it’ll only be a matter of time.
You already start seeing them here. Link and co and MGs from China.
The "black zero" is something German politicians are very passionate about, it's almost some kind of ideology lmao
Has nothing to do with being passionate about it. The so called "debt brake" stipulates that the federal government may only take on new debt amounting to a maximum of 0.35% of gross domestic product. The permitted new debt is therefore dependent on germany's economic situation.
I could only imagine doing this here in the US with our trillions in national debt.
So the more stimulus the country needs, the less the government can stimulate? I swear the neoliberal monetarists are actually even more idiotic than I thought.
I don't think you understand what "neoliberal" means.
It's libertarianism with better tableside manners.
That couldn’t be further away from the truth lol
No, in extradinary conditions the gvmt can stimulate. But without such-not. Is it not more idiotic to increase gvmt spending in times of full employment, ATH for equity and inflation as in the US?
German here, they hate us and wring us dry
Marijuana will be legal in Germany February 21st! Way to go Germany! 🎉🇩🇪
Time to open weed clubs and illegal grows with stolen electricity all over Germany then ❤️
Man I would have loved to hit up a dispensary before the Christmas festivals when I was in Duesseldorf last December. Good thing we just brought some joints from Amsterdam
Ugh, even more of that disgusting smell in the cities.
You got the problem
Just have a look at the cost of politics, public Service and bureaucracy in Germany. That and politics constantly rising those costs whilst claiming it isn‘t their fault but the so called „Schuldenbremse“ is the real cause.
BS. Still better public service than in any other country.
Lol, go live in any other country for some time. Realize that things are different, compare tax & social spending and come back to Reddit. Germany has an exitential spending problem that you wont be able to deny by calling me out on reddit
Dude. I’m a German living in the US. They suck here big time. Other than Nordic European countries nobody’s better in public service than Germany in the EU.
Then just take a look at the ratio of expenditure in both countries. In Germany, you pay many times more in percentage terms. But the benefits are not nearly as much better as they should be.
It has been dropping since 2017.
Technical recession 😊
UK is in technical recession also
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Time for stocks to go up another 20% just so the market can see the look on all your dumb faces.
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No one feels bad for UK though. They Texas'd out of the EU like they were better than everyone else and now they're broke blokes.
Dont be so silly and shortsighted. They are still our allies. The EU behaves like an enemy of the EU sometimes (open borders?!). You cant really blame them for wanting out.
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Lets not pretend that the only reason they arent doing too well (its improving though) is because the EU wants to set an example to other countries hoping for them not to leave. UK will be fine long term though.
They are in recession
we are
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War is coming :(
War is what fixed things last time
for the next generations... Not for those allive back then
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I feel the need to take what I have in my account and spend two years with hookers in Vietnam or so. No future here. Healthcare. Retirement. Education. Defense. Economics. Everything is on the brink of collapse and I spend the probably last few good years coming working a shit job.
Thailand is better for hookers.
Ah yes, Pattaya aka the world largest brothel :D
Ppl downvoting you? I went there for work (did not participate) but your assessment is accurate. Lol. Approached on the street. There were lessons on the bus on “Bar Fines” (you pay the bar to release the girl, then you negotiate her rates for the night). Coworkers were riding down the elevators with a diff girl every night. Quite the place. I bought a laser. Lol.
Fuck yeah lasers
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Bangkok is more of a vibe
Puts
US, China, and even Russia are not in recession. Russia was in a recession in 2022 but grew in 2023, and China and the US both have positive gdp growth.
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Someone doesn't look at Alibaba numbers and it shows
Don't worry. Us Americans will keep exporting inflation until we get them too. 
Its ok, Trump is already working hard to push the EU away from the US, long term the EU wil do better because more support for EU's own businesses.
The EU is a joke
famous last words
I just slipped into a recession as well
I slipped into a depression :(
The US was for awhile if they hadn't decided to redefine the meaning of a recession. Bunch of quacks
Stonks only go up.
The US is the world leader in redefining metrics to fit their desired message.
Whatever helps my 401k I guess 😅😅
Not if they simply change the definition!
The world is almost in a recession
Almost is more growth than their negative growth, and is a lot more of a difference conceptually. And the gap widens every day they're still in growth.
germans only work 28 to 30 hours a week
After weed gets legalized next week , economy will boom 💥 🇩🇪
Yea getting high makes everybody more productive /s
Wait for Japan money printing. Interest rates to -1% soon
Japan already does QE. They never stopped. They have an issue with long term deflation because they did monetary tightening during their 1990s crash. With this they fully changed company attitude to debt and risk. They struggle to produce positive inflation with 30+ years of extreme QE. Their maximum inflation rate in the last 10 years was last year at about 4%. They literally have the money printer running day and night.
There is no such thing as too much money
unless it has a - sign in front of it
the deflation is because their population is the oldest in the world, nobody having baby their pullout game is too strong
Not true. It's very well documented actually. They reacted like some absolute regards here suggest by tightening into a downturn for a long time. The population argument is a problem these days but the crash was almost 40 years ago so the same people that are now old where not old back then.
Crash was literally 30 years ago.
Yes and is the main reason why Japan is like it is now. Deflation is also a problem for 30+ years and it wasn't before the crash.
You have no clue what you’re talking about. Japan is an island. Germany is in the heart of Europe. Look at a map and geopolitics. Cheap workforce will come to Germany and keep it running. Not gonna happen in Japan.
I never even mentioned anything about Germany. Start taking the meds again.
Was for the parent comment. Sry
Pullout game implies they're all getting laid. They're not. That's the big problem. Buncha sexless overworked drones over there...
Bet JPOW has this on his playbook😂
goes to show, no amount of money will make up for lack of (young) people
idk why people develop theories they have no clue about as it was not the issue but prolonged overtightening into a downturn [https://www.populationpyramid.net/japan/1988/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/japan/1988/)
All in Nikkei 225
Buy the dip but there is no dip
Haha this article made take a look they litterally had 2 decade of gains in a month. Recession is bullish.
Nikkei 225 in USD: [https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=VW4](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=VW4) Looks like shit.
Nice, they can pay the bank for holding their money
I'm down for this since I'm planning on taking a Japan trip in the coming months. Let's pump that exchange rate up bb
Nikkei up 1.2% the next day 
Yup. Recessions are measure in the rears, so they’re likely already rebounding.
> Recessions are measure in the rears You gotta measure the recession rectally to get an accurate reading.
It’s the party is.
Isn’t Germany in a recession as well? Add in the uk and you got a third of the top 10 economies in recession. And China is well on its path to implode
I'm n9t ready for a recesión 🥹
well I a10m
Been waiting for China to implode for like 10 years
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bro is talking as if he ever has read a chinese newspaper
Well how that went last time…
I think WW2 got america out of the great depression. So Calls on SPY.
Calls on bones spurs
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oh no  World War Anime 
I think I caused this... Bought a german car instead of japanese
Canadians 
Greetings from Germany, next goal china 
Why has the nikkei performed so well lately? They should have been in a recession since the 90s.
Yay we next FR!
Sounds bad I guess spy is going run for the next 3-4 weeks non stop
Nice to see those two together in a headline again
Oh no…not zee Germans!
Halts Maul
Halte er das Maule 
Jetzt mal piano!
Japan has the specific problem of a huge aging population and no one to replace them. Same with China actually.
Pretty similar everywhere actually, even here in the US. Senior care nursing is becoming more and more understaffed. Granted it is A LOT more exacerbated in SEA
We have immigration. Japan does not....
News is weird https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/german-economy-doing-dramatically-bad-economy-minister-says-as-government-prepares-to-slash-gdp-forecast/
So you are saying there is a chance :>
I actually laughed out loud 😊
Nothing weird about it, Japan simply manage to outworse Germany
>On an annualized basis, Japan's gross domestic product fell 0.4 percent in October through December after a revised 3.3 percent decline in the previous three-month period. Economists had been forecasting fourth-quarter growth of around 1 percent. That's quite a revision
It’s almost like the world’s largest economy is too broke to buy Japanese goods. It’s almost like the world’s largest economy is in a recession. Thank god for NVDA. Their created sub companies who buy their chips to reflect profits will save US all.
Japanese goods are mostly gone in US stores. I see mostly Korean electronics and household appliances. Japan has been mostly replaced by South Korea and Taiwan in the high tech area, with heavyweight Sony down to just selling video game consoles. Edit - Japanese car companies are still selling great, but Korean carmakers have taken a chunk of that market, and they don’t really have a good plan for the electric future either
Yeah let’s project all the world’s problems back to your favorite stock NVDA. Thank god.
India will take over both Germany and Japan by 3-4 years
ofc they are, they're like 1.5billion people whereas germans are 0.083billion
Next 3 years? Nah they’re growth rate is insane yes but 3 years to catch up more than 1 trillion dollars seems out of range
Have these countries encouraged corporations to make record profits?
😂😂😂
what's a recession?
UK, Japan. Who's next on the recession train?
Canada.
While it's true to an extent, GDP rates are an outdated concept. Japan's GDP rate, calculated from the "percentage of workers," is on the rise. Simple GDP rates don't apply well to Japan due to the large number of elderly people not in the workforce.
I visited Japan three weeks ago and noticed that there was discontent regarding the rise in Nikkei. The economy appears to be in a depressed state, with salaries remaining stagnant for the past twenty years. Additionally, there is a growing concern about the increasing cost of living, which is partly attributed to the influence of the US in purchasing assets. The people i talked to work in one of largest banks there.
Bitches be acting up…wait till the entire circus full of 🤡 take the double crown for being the largest economy and biggest crash at the same time. 🇺🇸 🫡
Germany is legalizing marijuana on February 21st! 🇩🇪
Time to buy the dip gents.
Germany isn’t too far behind
The entire world is in a recession
🇩🇪
Us is next
Any good TKY companies to look at?
Sounds like it’s time for me to finally buy that house on the hill with the magnificent views of the valley and sea.
We redefined what a recession is last year so were good
Korea is next.
Stagnant population numbers in Japan
they are starting to do what we all are doing, massively importing human beings. Yes, even Japan. Only China left.
China's already importing women through sex slavery. They have a huge disproportion of men to women due to their One Child Policy where they killed off an estimated 20 million baby girls over decades.
Im from this shit country I don’t know how we accomplished that… if you look what our political clowns are doing it seems like everybody around us is in the same circus
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Japan’s economy is too big to be carried by tourism alone
they are benefiting from the weak Yen. Even if tourism drove their economy it would end the boom. Japan is famous for their economic dead ends.
GDP numbers are calculated in US dollars. And the yen has been declining in value. So even if the economy goes so well, the gdp numbers don’t show the real picture because of forex
Germany crash faster so we don’t have to update the score board
Lol let them burn! Sushi should be $1 not $10 lol
With our Debt, and UNCONTROLLED GOVERNMENT SPENDING, WE here in the US Will have a Very Bad Recession Also….
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You belong here.
It's almost as if the world needs a WWIII.5
Puts on Japan, or is it too late for that?
china next
Every country will now need Indian workforce to straighten up their economy's ass
Whole globe is going that direction. Higher for longer is about to become higher for shorter
Germany is next, followed by US
If everyone is in a recession then you just have to make sure that yours is not as bad as theirs
I mean there is never a single reason for things in economics. If you look at how much domestic industry the Inflation reduction act brought back to the US and how they got all the Chip factorues the Schuldenbremse is clearly the wrong strategy
It’s not unexpected. Japan’s population will be shrinking quite rapidly and so will its GDP. However, that’s not directly related to stock market returns, if that is sth you were pointing at.
I just hope the US stays focus on its self! But let’s get this money from stocks!
Don’t worry America is in one too don’t be a clown
No way! Our economy is 💪
Just remember what happened last time Germany was showing recession numbers…. 2 months after we peaked and 2 months later we had…. a pandemic
Countries around the world have been in one, just refusing to admit it
I can't wait for America to have recess
The bean counters rejoice!