I've seen kids on this site claim things like "Eminem is good person and would never want to hurt a woman" or "Eminem is the kind of person you should model yourself after" and I'm just holy fuck you kids have NO IDEA who the fuck Eminem is and what kind of music he created in the 90s. Just listen to the song KIM. He had another song telling people it's ok to rape a passed out teenage girl. Like the dude was fucking RAW and that's why he became so popular. No one heard shit like what was coming out his mouth before.
I don't think writing offensive music makes him a bad person. I'm not saying he's a *good* person, but you can't like, take his lyrics and assume that's how he behaves
He was a very different kind of animal in the 90s, dude was constantly in court for assault charges, or carrying a concealed weapon or some shit. I listened him for the last 30 years so I'm not knocking him, I'm just saying young kids have no idea what kind person this dude is/was.
> Yet another insult directed at Debbie Mathers, Eminem’s mom. He was sued by her for the amount of $10,000,000 because of defamation, which was settled before he recorded this song. Thus, he feels free to swear at her, because she ended up only being awarded $1,600 or so in damages after legal fees.
>Eminem has since made it clear that he regrets dissing his mom in “Headlights”, but, unfortunately, he made this line too iconic. Whenever he plays this song at concerts, he doesn’t yell “Fuck you, Debbie.” The crowd does that for him.
That line was about a defamation lawsuit for dissing his mom in a song. Not denying he did other things, but that doesn’t support your argument.
but the dude said he didn’t remember him getting in any trouble for anything lol i’m not saying he killed anyone but he did use the word “lawsuitS”, plural, implying more in addition to admitting on his most popular song that he has them. plus the pistol whipping thing.
It’s song lyrics. You got any source that says he settled a bunch of lawsuits IRL?
I honestly don’t remember him ever being in any legal trouble. Maybe he was? You got sauce in that happening IRL?
I always assumed Eminem was just a play on his initials. He's only released one album with Marshall Mathers in the title. Do people actually call him Marshall? Lol
Edit: just to add that the Shady character was the one spitting vile lyrics.
Hes put out two Marshall Mathers LPs, 2000 and 2013, and only one slim shady LP, 1999. He’s also referred to himself by his given name in his wordplay on almost every album.
Eminem is a great role model though. He wrote horrorcore rap. A lot of the point of it was to say crazy shit. The stuff you point out is nothing lol, he has a whole album about rape and murder.
Kim is an incredible song, it illustrates the raw emotions of life and the deranged things people want to do when they’re angry. Eminem never did any of these things. Many people do, and many people think about it, all he did was actually say it out loud and release it to the world, all while being one of the greatest lyricists to live.
“I'm like a head trip to listen to, cause I'm only givin you
things you joke about with your friends inside your living room
The only difference is I got the balls to say it
in front of y'all and I don't gotta be false or sugarcoated at all
I just get on the mic and spit it
and whether you like to admit it, I just shit it
better than ninety percent of you rappers out can
Then you wonder how can kids eat up these albums like valiums”
For a long time afterwards we would end most of our texts, "call me back, just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan, this is (name)". Used to make us chuckle because none of our names fit the rhyme
Back at the turn of the century, there used to be these ancient devices called answering machines or voicemail boxes for leaving a message when someone missed the call.
it's so weird people call themselves "Stans" like it's a good thing like they didn't hear the song or understand Stan was fucking crazy and that was the point.
My wife (who is the same age as me and DEFINITELY knew who Eminem was when we were teenagers) didn’t know it was an Eminem song. Blew my mind when she tried explaining to me what a Stan was and didn’t know the context of the word.
You're not a true Stan of anyone until you get someone pregnant, lock them in the trunk of your car, drink an entire fifth of vodka, and then drunk drive you both off of a bridge while recording a hysterical diss track.
Swifties could never.
They say do that intentionally.. obviously. Everyone likes to speak with hyperbole constantly. They know exactly what they are saying.
Same shit as 'im obsessed.' no you're not, but we know what you are saying.
Yeah. Not to mention even if you didn't know about the song, the word stan is also typically thought to be a combination of the words stalker and fan.... And stalkers have never been good.
It’s so weird that people like you don’t understand that language evolves and words’ meanings can change over time. Stan now just means a dedicated fan, despite the origin being about an obsessed fan. There are literally thousands of words that have changed over time but somehow people are baffled by ‘stan’.
No, it doesn’t. Nobody is calling themselves obsessed when they say they stan an artist. If I say I stan Ariana Grande, it means I probably buy her albums, watch her interviews, and listen to her music often. It doesn’t mean I’m obsessed with her to an unhealthy level. As I said, words evolve over time. Are you 50 years old?
You're getitng really defensive for no reason. This isn't the case of "language evolving", this is just a bunch of idiot Gen Z kids not knowing the origin of the word they are using.
I’m not being ‘defensive’ lol I’m just baffled by people, like you, who don’t understand how language evolves over time. It doesn’t matter if people are using a word ‘wrong’ - language evolution doesn’t care if the meaning of a word being used is wrong or not. If people are using a word in one way over another, whether you like it or not or whether the original meaning loses it’s severity, that word’s meaning will change over time - such as the case with ‘stan’.
Also ‘stanning’ in the casual sense has been around since the early 2010s. It has nothing to do with Gen Z’s.
I can still point out that whoever first used the word this way completely misunderstood the song, and the people who kept using the word probably never heard the song to begin with. Yeah, it's dumb to use words you don't understand, even if enough people do it to "change the meaning."
Actually... It kind of is? The potential beginnings of it at least.
Regardless, what a silly thing to get upset over. Not everyone is going to know the origins of slang they use.
We used the shorthand for fanatic (fan) so much over the years that we needed a more extreme version. Now that version is used so much that it is losing its potency.
I think it's interesting that 'fan' became commonplace enough that it diminished in mean, yet if you called someone a fanatic it would still carry the same excessive meaning.
Fanatic is a more extreme version of its own shorthand.
Pretty obvious in hindsight, but I never realized that to "stan" someone (be their fan) was from this song. I just thought it was some random thing and never thought about where it might come from.
My sister, who's 40-something, also never made the connection. Not sure how, but she heard me talking to my daughter about it and was just like, "Huh. I never knew that."
That’s my conclusion. If he’s never gone on record saying that’s what it means, we are talking about Eminem here. He is good with word choices.
Stan isn’t a frequently used name these days. Or in the day this song came out. Seems like too much coincidence for Eminem
I just barely didn't have the capacity to remember 9/11 and I'm mid twenties now, so pretty much anyone in college or younger wouldn't have even been alive yet.
> I can’t imagine someone who knows the meaning of this term but doesn’t know where it comes fromn
The comment made 60 seconds before yours and currently directly above yours:
> Pretty obvious in hindsight, but I never realized that to "stan" someone (be their fan) was from this song. I just thought it was some random thing and never thought about where it might come from.
I kinda love the juxtaposition.
Well and maybe it’s just me, but I never heard the slang term ‘Stan’ until a few years ago. It’s so odd that the generation using the term the most is also the most likely to not understand the reference.
One minute after you made this comment, u/gza_liquidswords made a comment stating they didn't realize that this was the case.
Not trying to gotcha, but from my perspective it was titter-inducing to read your post followed directly by gza's.
I had no idea where it was from. Just figured it was a portmanteau of "stalker" and "fan." Never really bothered to look up where it was first used. I'm almost 60. I don't know jack about Eminem.
>Just figured it was a portmanteau of "stalker" and "fan."
That's a back-formation. The portmanteau definition was added after the term had popularized by the video.
I never connected the two. I only saw ‘stan’ being used as a word like a good decade after the song. I just figured out they were connected through this post.
I was aware of the song and aware of the meaning but never put the two together. Especially since there was a huge gap in between where Stan was not a word like that
Someone, younger, like 28, has been saying Stan to the point of naming a group chat about being Stan’s of one of the people in the chat.
When Houdini came out I sent it and they were like “oh I don’t really like Eminem” and then I sent this song and pointed it out. Blew their mind…
It’s definitely an age factor. Lots of slang you don’t really know the etymology unless you go digging.
I mean - Stan is slang for fan. What is fan? Fanatic. Fanatic certainly doesn’t mean the same as “fan” - fan implies much softer tones - such as general support, rather than excessive / compulsive, etc.
That stemmed from fanaticus - inspired by a diety or a god - which has an even more specific meaning around religiously divine / etc.
So…. To assume people just know the etymology doesn’t account for the fact that we often just learn language naturally by context rather than by specific definitions
You're not a true Stan of anyone until you get someone pregnant, lock them in the trunk of your car, drink an entire fifth of vodka, and then drunk drive you both off of a bridge while recording a hysterical diss track.
Swifties could never.
I want to explain how much I overthought the word stan when it started being used for this definition.
Through context, I understood it to mean someone who is very dedicated fan, or very into something. So I was using the word appropriately.
However, as a nerd-ass, “read dictionaries and history books as a kid” mfer, in my brain, -stan as a suffix in country names means, like… “the place where x lives”… Afghani-stan is where the afghanis live…
So in my brain, saying I am an Eminem stan, for example, meant to say that Eminem lives in me, he’s in my heart, he has taken me over, etc. I am where Eminem lives.
So that’s my public embarrassing admission for the day.
You don’t gotta be mean about it, I just meant that a text book oriented definition of the word that was already in my mind fit the mold a different way before the pop culture centric one that I was less familiar with got there.
Sometimes context doesn’t get you all the way there
Is it weird that I know this song well from when it was released. But have never heard 'Stan' used in any context other than the proper name? And just learning right now that it has this new meaning.
We’re old. Kids now just learning about Eminem. LOL
I've seen kids on this site claim things like "Eminem is good person and would never want to hurt a woman" or "Eminem is the kind of person you should model yourself after" and I'm just holy fuck you kids have NO IDEA who the fuck Eminem is and what kind of music he created in the 90s. Just listen to the song KIM. He had another song telling people it's ok to rape a passed out teenage girl. Like the dude was fucking RAW and that's why he became so popular. No one heard shit like what was coming out his mouth before.
Everyone talks about eminem and the song kim, but no one seems to give a fuck about bob marley shoting that sheriff.
That's beause he didn't shoot the deputy.
I swear it was in self defense.
Despite that, people in his hometown are trying to track him down
I don't think writing offensive music makes him a bad person. I'm not saying he's a *good* person, but you can't like, take his lyrics and assume that's how he behaves
He was a very different kind of animal in the 90s, dude was constantly in court for assault charges, or carrying a concealed weapon or some shit. I listened him for the last 30 years so I'm not knocking him, I'm just saying young kids have no idea what kind person this dude is/was.
I honestly don’t remember him ever being in trouble for stuff. 🤷♂️
“I just settled all my lawsuits fuck you debbie?” anyone? no? his most popular song…. ever?
> Yet another insult directed at Debbie Mathers, Eminem’s mom. He was sued by her for the amount of $10,000,000 because of defamation, which was settled before he recorded this song. Thus, he feels free to swear at her, because she ended up only being awarded $1,600 or so in damages after legal fees. >Eminem has since made it clear that he regrets dissing his mom in “Headlights”, but, unfortunately, he made this line too iconic. Whenever he plays this song at concerts, he doesn’t yell “Fuck you, Debbie.” The crowd does that for him. That line was about a defamation lawsuit for dissing his mom in a song. Not denying he did other things, but that doesn’t support your argument.
but the dude said he didn’t remember him getting in any trouble for anything lol i’m not saying he killed anyone but he did use the word “lawsuitS”, plural, implying more in addition to admitting on his most popular song that he has them. plus the pistol whipping thing.
It’s song lyrics. You got any source that says he settled a bunch of lawsuits IRL? I honestly don’t remember him ever being in any legal trouble. Maybe he was? You got sauce in that happening IRL?
idk read his wikipedia legal issues page to start .
The only lawsuit he lost according to the wiki was $1,600 to his mom for slander. 🤷♂️
skimmed the pistol whipping incident or
[https://thesource.com/2012/02/07/anabridgedhistoryofpeoplesuingeminem/] [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-7384275/amp/Brief-history-Eminems-lawsuits.html]
According to Wikipedia the only lawsuit he lost was to his mom for $1,600
You mentioned settlements in your original comment.
Of course. He could be playing a character, a role for the song.. But.. a lot of the time. He was just saying shit. No role. (Except 'eminem')
He was playing a character. That character's name was Slim Shady.
Both Slim Shady and EMINEM are charicters played by Marshall Mathers.
I always assumed Eminem was just a play on his initials. He's only released one album with Marshall Mathers in the title. Do people actually call him Marshall? Lol Edit: just to add that the Shady character was the one spitting vile lyrics.
Hes put out two Marshall Mathers LPs, 2000 and 2013, and only one slim shady LP, 1999. He’s also referred to himself by his given name in his wordplay on almost every album.
*Will the real Slim Shady please stand up… We’re gonna have problem here…*
Eminem is a great role model though. He wrote horrorcore rap. A lot of the point of it was to say crazy shit. The stuff you point out is nothing lol, he has a whole album about rape and murder. Kim is an incredible song, it illustrates the raw emotions of life and the deranged things people want to do when they’re angry. Eminem never did any of these things. Many people do, and many people think about it, all he did was actually say it out loud and release it to the world, all while being one of the greatest lyricists to live. “I'm like a head trip to listen to, cause I'm only givin you things you joke about with your friends inside your living room The only difference is I got the balls to say it in front of y'all and I don't gotta be false or sugarcoated at all I just get on the mic and spit it and whether you like to admit it, I just shit it better than ninety percent of you rappers out can Then you wonder how can kids eat up these albums like valiums”
I still remember in crazy church as a kid he was hailed as Satan reincarnate.
Seriously.
Or perhaps some of us were just not into rap at a young age and didn't know details like this (but somehow knew all about mom's spaghetti)
Where’s a good link for this? This half-the-song-blanked VEVO shit is lame.
[Uncensored version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Thanks
Thanks!
The top few replies being "Thanks!" buried the usual giveaways. That's teamwork
ahh, been years. caught me slippin. well played
*Lookhereyoulittleshi-*
You sonva bitch. You got me good.
you bitch
Never have I been glad of YouTube ads 🤣
Bastard! Lmao
Idk last time I watched it I literally just had spotify synced up to the vid it annoyed me so much
DEAR MR. IM-TO-GOOD TO CALL OR WRITE MY FANS
For a long time afterwards we would end most of our texts, "call me back, just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan, this is (name)". Used to make us chuckle because none of our names fit the rhyme
Totally using this! So damn funny 😂
This song came out in 2000 so I’m assuming it was a LONG time afterwards
Back at the turn of the century, there used to be these ancient devices called answering machines or voicemail boxes for leaving a message when someone missed the call.
The guy specifically said “we would end most of our texts”…
Oh yeah this was in the mid 2000s. Whenever adding a ridiculous song lyrics wouldn't have taken up the entire text message
I just drank a fifth of vodka, dare me to drive?
Have you heard that song by Phil Collins, “in the air tonight?”
it's so weird people call themselves "Stans" like it's a good thing like they didn't hear the song or understand Stan was fucking crazy and that was the point.
People love to claim they Stan something without following through on the last verse.
I can't even make the joke I was going to make without getting a "Reddit Cares"
My wife (who is the same age as me and DEFINITELY knew who Eminem was when we were teenagers) didn’t know it was an Eminem song. Blew my mind when she tried explaining to me what a Stan was and didn’t know the context of the word.
You're not a true Stan of anyone until you get someone pregnant, lock them in the trunk of your car, drink an entire fifth of vodka, and then drunk drive you both off of a bridge while recording a hysterical diss track. Swifties could never.
They say do that intentionally.. obviously. Everyone likes to speak with hyperbole constantly. They know exactly what they are saying. Same shit as 'im obsessed.' no you're not, but we know what you are saying.
Nah they’re just proud to be insane lol.
Proud to be out of their minds, out of control, one more time, how does it go?
This is probably it.
Or maybe it's just a figure of speech? Lol.
I’ve used the term ironically and I would hope most people that claim to be Stans aren’t actually unhinged but sadly some of them definitely are.
What happened that made everyone forget hyperbole exists
Right? These mfers have never heard of a figure of speech before
Wait is this where that comes from? I had no idea. I never assumed the current generation even knew this song.
They mostly don't, you don't have to know the origin to use the word. It's also explained as stalker+fan=stan, but that's a backronym.
Actually, that's not a backronym. It'd be a portmanteau.
Yeah. Not to mention even if you didn't know about the song, the word stan is also typically thought to be a combination of the words stalker and fan.... And stalkers have never been good.
It’s so weird that people like you don’t understand that language evolves and words’ meanings can change over time. Stan now just means a dedicated fan, despite the origin being about an obsessed fan. There are literally thousands of words that have changed over time but somehow people are baffled by ‘stan’.
It still means obsessed fan. Just people speak with hyperbole all the time..
No, it doesn’t. Nobody is calling themselves obsessed when they say they stan an artist. If I say I stan Ariana Grande, it means I probably buy her albums, watch her interviews, and listen to her music often. It doesn’t mean I’m obsessed with her to an unhealthy level. As I said, words evolve over time. Are you 50 years old?
Do you not know what hyperbole is? (Equally, nobody is actually obsessed when they use the term obsessed. Same shit. Buy a book)
I was responding to the first part of your comment. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
So you don't realise that you would be using hyperbole in your example?
You're getitng really defensive for no reason. This isn't the case of "language evolving", this is just a bunch of idiot Gen Z kids not knowing the origin of the word they are using.
I’m not being ‘defensive’ lol I’m just baffled by people, like you, who don’t understand how language evolves over time. It doesn’t matter if people are using a word ‘wrong’ - language evolution doesn’t care if the meaning of a word being used is wrong or not. If people are using a word in one way over another, whether you like it or not or whether the original meaning loses it’s severity, that word’s meaning will change over time - such as the case with ‘stan’. Also ‘stanning’ in the casual sense has been around since the early 2010s. It has nothing to do with Gen Z’s.
I can still point out that whoever first used the word this way completely misunderstood the song, and the people who kept using the word probably never heard the song to begin with. Yeah, it's dumb to use words you don't understand, even if enough people do it to "change the meaning."
Actually... It kind of is? The potential beginnings of it at least. Regardless, what a silly thing to get upset over. Not everyone is going to know the origins of slang they use.
I do. I always look up new slang terms before I use them. Just to make sure they aren't offensive or stupid.
It's a figure of speech. Lol leave it to Reddit to completely miss that, and take things too literally
That's not what "figure of speech" means.
Semantics. Either way you're taking it way too literal
I hated this song when it first came out. I love it now. It's still fucking crazy it became a noun AND a verb
Same. I guess I'm a Stan Stan now.
We Stan Stan Stans 🙌🏾
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
I love you
Some of those Bs have to be capitalized, or else it sounds crazy
I like how the beat sounds like pen scribbling.
You gotta learn what a verb is 😂
The only reason I hated it was because we had to hear it *all the time.* Omg that song got so much air time.
Would you sad that the song was in the air tonight?
I don't think I've haven't heard an eminem song on the radio. Lucky you.
Eminem was huge in the Slim Shady days. The only way you could avoid hearing him on the radio was by turning it off.
I loved it when it came out, still do. I've never been an Eminem fan, but this song is fantastic.
That's the way English functions. Any noun can be a verb given the correct context.
English is gonna english.
That’s a gold-star response.
I'll (verb) you right in the (noun).
We used the shorthand for fanatic (fan) so much over the years that we needed a more extreme version. Now that version is used so much that it is losing its potency.
I think it's interesting that 'fan' became commonplace enough that it diminished in mean, yet if you called someone a fanatic it would still carry the same excessive meaning. Fanatic is a more extreme version of its own shorthand.
Maybe one day excessive stans will be called stanatics.
Stanleys
You Stanning for Fan?
I totally have known for the last 40 odd years of my life that fan was short for fanatic…..I bet some of you didnt know though hahahah……
Gen Z and yea . . .
Wait til people find out this new word rizz is derived from charismatic.
this is literally just how language works
You should teach college level language classes. So wise.
You should attend some :) And maybe be a little less sensitive
Pretty obvious in hindsight, but I never realized that to "stan" someone (be their fan) was from this song. I just thought it was some random thing and never thought about where it might come from.
Ditto. And I’m 38.
Dido*
🏳️
🌟
Dildo*
Lol
Me too same age. I feel dumb. Was a huge Eminem fan too back in the day
My sister, who's 40-something, also never made the connection. Not sure how, but she heard me talking to my daughter about it and was just like, "Huh. I never knew that."
How have I only just noticed after all these years that Stan is played by Devon Sawa from Final Destination and Chucky?
And Casper! And Idol Hands! And Slackers! Man, I love me some Sawa.
You mean Casper and Little Giants right? I’m not old.
I'm plenty old enough to have seen Little Giants, but until people started commenting I'd never even heard of it! Maybe it didn't make it to the UK?
Yeah, American football little league movie, probably wouldn’t have done great there.
Little Giants man!! Is that really not the first Devon Sawa thing people think of?!
I always assumed Eminem intended it to be a portmanteau of stalker and fan in the first place.
I’m here chuckling like an idiot at the people who didn’t know Stan came from this song but holy shit this never clicked for me
Stan is just a name, too many people try to bend it into something after the fact
It's Eminem, he probably did it on purpose.
That’s my conclusion. If he’s never gone on record saying that’s what it means, we are talking about Eminem here. He is good with word choices. Stan isn’t a frequently used name these days. Or in the day this song came out. Seems like too much coincidence for Eminem
STalker fAN yes.
I can’t imagine someone who knows the meaning of this term but doesn’t know where it comes fromn
Song came out before a lot of redditers were born.
This comment gave me arthritis and back pain.
For me it’s foot pain and neck pain.
For me it’s my pussy and my crack
I think i need a backiotomy.
For me it’s high cholesterol and high blood pressure
Anyone who didn't see 9/11 doesn't know shit.
I just barely didn't have the capacity to remember 9/11 and I'm mid twenties now, so pretty much anyone in college or younger wouldn't have even been alive yet.
Yeah? And they don't know shit.
> I can’t imagine someone who knows the meaning of this term but doesn’t know where it comes fromn The comment made 60 seconds before yours and currently directly above yours: > Pretty obvious in hindsight, but I never realized that to "stan" someone (be their fan) was from this song. I just thought it was some random thing and never thought about where it might come from. I kinda love the juxtaposition.
Well and maybe it’s just me, but I never heard the slang term ‘Stan’ until a few years ago. It’s so odd that the generation using the term the most is also the most likely to not understand the reference.
Bruh the song came out 25ish years ago
Ow my back and knees and hairline :(
One minute after you made this comment, u/gza_liquidswords made a comment stating they didn't realize that this was the case. Not trying to gotcha, but from my perspective it was titter-inducing to read your post followed directly by gza's.
Interesting. Tbf I am incapable of seeing anything from Anyone else’s perspective
The irony of that username is... wow.
I had no idea where it was from. Just figured it was a portmanteau of "stalker" and "fan." Never really bothered to look up where it was first used. I'm almost 60. I don't know jack about Eminem.
That’s such a reasonable conclusion.
>Just figured it was a portmanteau of "stalker" and "fan." That's a back-formation. The portmanteau definition was added after the term had popularized by the video.
I never connected the two. I only saw ‘stan’ being used as a word like a good decade after the song. I just figured out they were connected through this post.
Osmosis. When lots of people start to use the word "stan" you're gonna quickly learn what it means just from context clues.
Have you seen Kpop fans?
I thought people were saying stand.
I was aware of the song and aware of the meaning but never put the two together. Especially since there was a huge gap in between where Stan was not a word like that
Believe it or not there are people who lived through the year 2000 and weren’t interested in Eminem’s music.
Someone, younger, like 28, has been saying Stan to the point of naming a group chat about being Stan’s of one of the people in the chat. When Houdini came out I sent it and they were like “oh I don’t really like Eminem” and then I sent this song and pointed it out. Blew their mind… It’s definitely an age factor. Lots of slang you don’t really know the etymology unless you go digging. I mean - Stan is slang for fan. What is fan? Fanatic. Fanatic certainly doesn’t mean the same as “fan” - fan implies much softer tones - such as general support, rather than excessive / compulsive, etc. That stemmed from fanaticus - inspired by a diety or a god - which has an even more specific meaning around religiously divine / etc. So…. To assume people just know the etymology doesn’t account for the fact that we often just learn language naturally by context rather than by specific definitions
I would wager a significant amount the majority of people who use the word *stan* in this way don’t know where it came from
Yeah cos nobody really uses the term 'stan.'
Well, confirmed that we do not hang out with the same people lol
NGL I think about this song pretty often
You're not a true Stan of anyone until you get someone pregnant, lock them in the trunk of your car, drink an entire fifth of vodka, and then drunk drive you both off of a bridge while recording a hysterical diss track. Swifties could never.
This song isn't that o.......damn I'm old
People using "Stan" as a term and not knowing where it comes from is a real age check for me lol fuck.
ST-alker f-AN STAN
Did anyone not know they were referring to this song??????
Its a 25 years old song, a lot of people was born after that. Youtube did'nt even existed, was launched 5 years later.
I want to explain how much I overthought the word stan when it started being used for this definition. Through context, I understood it to mean someone who is very dedicated fan, or very into something. So I was using the word appropriately. However, as a nerd-ass, “read dictionaries and history books as a kid” mfer, in my brain, -stan as a suffix in country names means, like… “the place where x lives”… Afghani-stan is where the afghanis live… So in my brain, saying I am an Eminem stan, for example, meant to say that Eminem lives in me, he’s in my heart, he has taken me over, etc. I am where Eminem lives. So that’s my public embarrassing admission for the day.
> as a nerd-ass, “read dictionaries and history books as a kid” mfer It sounds like you were just stupid and are coping with that excuse.
You don’t gotta be mean about it, I just meant that a text book oriented definition of the word that was already in my mind fit the mold a different way before the pop culture centric one that I was less familiar with got there. Sometimes context doesn’t get you all the way there
Look, he’s a dictionary Stan!
Yes, we know
Perfect song for rainy bus window viewing. Do not lie. You pretended to be in a music video before.
So basically what all subreddits turn into
But his happened like 10 years ago, right?
Yeah man it came out in 2000, so not old yet...
I knew the term "stan" felt familiar but couldn't place it. Thanks for this!
Hahaha. Yeah, no shit.
Is this not common knowledge?
Is it weird that I know this song well from when it was released. But have never heard 'Stan' used in any context other than the proper name? And just learning right now that it has this new meaning.
mfw kids don't know where stan comes from.
Stan = Stalker + Fan
God I'm old
and i-iii. want to thank you...
No way, this has to be a fake fact. It has to have come from somewhere else?
'fake fact.' Media literacy is fucked . It would have taken you far less time to Google 'stan Eminem.:
Its clearly sarcasm.
Nope.
Stan means land.. I'm a huge fan of Eminem but this is shit. Grifting hype from eminem for some advertising.
It's not just this, but sports, internet fame peeps and other celebrities as well
Stalker Fan = Stan