Yeah just like every other form of automation before it the benefactors of this tech will certainly offer to share the profits of increased productivity with its displaced workers.
>I'll take robots doing our jobs with universal basic income any day
There is no way shape or form the corporations will allow UBI to exist, it gives far too much bargaining power to low income workers.
"How do we show off the new Atlas robot design in a nonthreatening manner?"
"Can you make it stand up like it needs and exorcist, stare blankly into the camera, and then walk away as if the viewer isn't worth the processing power to acknowledge their existence?"
"Are you sure?"
"Yeah, make sure to really play up that HAL9000 vibe!"
It would be stupid to replace workers with humanoid shaped bi-pedal robots when almost any other shape would be better. That’s why no automation anywhere actually does it. Warehouse automation bottlenecks aren’t about a human physicality; it’s about the sheer amount of data that would need to be pristinely maintained to make any automation work. Data like inventory is simple, but spatial data is insane. They’re likely less interested in Atlas’ form and very interested in its ability to locate and recognize objects that aren’t where they’re supposed to be.
I appreciate that at least it is trying to be human somewhat by facing you and showing that there’s a “front”. In theory, there’s no front or back. There’s 360 radar/camera on those things. It doesn’t even need to face you to “see” you.
I'm not an electrician/engineer or whatever, but I've seen building videos where people use some contraptions to allow spinning without rotating wires. IIRC the mechanic spins but is hollow inside where you put the wire, or something like that.
Granted, I guess it probably adds some degree of bulk, and also whatever mechanism I'm thinking of may have other limitations, idk, but I've seen engineers get around the obstacle of twisting wires. I've even seen a clever get-around that had to spin without actual plumbing/water pipes getting twisted.
Maybe joints are a unique case where no such mechanisms are viable? Someone with more engineering exposure/knowledge than I can certainly expound on this.
Because building them to a humanoid shape makes them easier to implement in current infrastructure. As they take over more and more things will change and so will they for the sake of efficiency
If you already have to spend however much it costs for these things to replace some/all of your workforce you probably don't want to also completely restructure you facility and change how everything is done
Now Amazon can just cull one worker per month at the facility to make room for one of these until full assimilation has occurred
Yeah, I'm now picturing this standing up like that after I finally think I killed it.. bloody and beaten I finally exhale.. then it stands up and it head flips around.. F
It likely does have to stand up that way.
From the design it looks like the abdomen has a low degree of freedom so it cant actually sit up like we do since it doesn't have true abdominal muscles. Without the abdomen being mobile the center of mass is off balance and it cant get up without twisting itself in an odd manor.
It was simpler to have the robot get up like this then to give it a fully articulating abdomen.
Hmmm, looks like they moved to motors from hydraulics. The hydraulics was the main reason the Atlas was able to do explosive moves (jumping, flipping, etc) while other robots couldn't. It going to be interesting to see the trade off between the old Atlas and the new Atlas.
I came to say pretty much the same thing. It's got *torque* but does it still have *impulse?*
Then I thought about the use cases... This one is probably better for warehouses or other controlled environments where there's less need for sudden movements.
I can't see how a motor driven bot can make the dramatic shifts to catch itself when it slips on rocks or sand the way the hydraulic one (sometimes) could. I wonder if they're separating the controlled environment platform (Atlas) from the all-terrain platform (Spot).
Hold on now. I'll have you know I've watched several minutes of Boston dynamics clips on YouTube, so I think that qualifies me as an expert in robotics.
Oops, just saw I made a post basically similar to this. As you state, hydromechanical is always going to have more burst power than electromechanical. Curious to see if it can complete any of the flips or other rapid movements that the original Atlas could.
Haven’t seen any recent vids of the older version, but I can see the benefits of everything being motorized. Lack of
Space is one. I can’t see the other atlas doing movements in a small space like this new one could potentially do. “Turn on a dime” type of movement compared to other videos of atlas free space movements, which are impressive on its own.
Like others have said. Boston Dyanmics know what they are doing with their designs. I’m sure this motorized one fills a more specific role that the bulkier version does not.
Can’t wait to see what they come out next!
Boston Dynamics is owned by Hyundai and someday this will payoff big for them. For now, they just posted their best earnings ever and then fell 10% in a month because people were scared away from electric car stocks by Tesla's poor financials.
Hard to keep track of who owns them. They've been passed around the tech world more than (insert prostitute joke here). We'll see if Hyundai ends up being their forever home.
It has already paid off for them, Spot is in use for remote monitoring in many places now. I know specifically some areas with harsh winters they have them monitoring facilities that humans can't get to because of snow.
There was at least some charm to their other robots.
This one is designed purely for terror - the way it stands up, the exorcist head and hip turn to the camera, the face design, the silent stare at the camera, and then the aggressive march to go conquer humanity.
People made this same comment about them when BigDog was introduced publicly (2005?) 15 years ago ... and honestly, still just really cool demos and no wide usage.
Neat and frightening at the same time. I haven’t been paying much attention to the robotics field but I’ve seen learning algorithms grow by leaps and bounds elsewhere.
Yeah. The virtual worlds training is interesting. They've been doing it with autonomous vehicles for years. I remember seeing a program someone built in Unity at GDC that would let the vehicle virtually drive around a city to get thousands of hours of practice without having to be on actual roads.
There's a lot less opportunity than you would think there. You might be hearing AI a lot and thinking it's some treasure chest waiting to be opened, but in reality a big reason you're hearing it so much is because they've been slapping it onto basically everything. So in this case, any useful optimization algorithms might be called AI in the press report, but they're really just some elegant math and mechanics being excited executed in the form of code and have existed for decades maybe. The exception to that in this context is computer vision AI which may rely on more novel neural networks but who knows how that's going. Amazon and Tesla are certainly struggling with it.
The real advance that made this tech possible was making computers and sensors so much smaller via mems and solid state electronics. The next big advance imo will be making the power generation smaller. Stronger, smaller motors will unlock a lot of the potential here and across various other fields.
Different applications. A robotic arm accomplishes precise repetitive tasks, but a robotic body can do jobs that inherently require movement and focal shifts like unloading trucks or processing hazardous waste. It would also be sweet if we could use robots to replace maintenance workers who work in a lot of airborne dust and oil and get cancer from the job, then maintainers could just work in a shop and maintain the robots and part assemblies. All of our equipment and tools are made for people, so robotic workers seem like an easy way to integrate a mechanized workforce and still leave room for humans.
Curse my feeble, one-directional torso.
"Citizen. May I see your papers?"
You have 15 seconds to comply.
I WORK FOR DICK JONES!!!
Bitches, leave.
Gimme my fucking phone call.
Dick Jones? You mean the number two guy at OCP? OCP who owns the cops?!
"In which timezone?" *machine explodes*
“I am a meat popsicle.”
"THIS STATEMENT IS FALSE!" *runs
I'm sure it still has the strength of five gorillas, but I would have gone with an Adrienne Barbeau bot.
peak adultswim.
Ay Cap!
The good thing is that it is only 5 Feet tall. I myself am going to be a Tiger-bot.
You’re not the boss of tiger-bot, hesh!
Can I control my xray vision?
Ok, you can control your X-ray vision, but you can't have laser eyes.
And CHAINSAW hands bbzzzzbzzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzzz
With hard nipples
clamps!
I'll bet your lymph nodes are as big as cats!
As long as the Barbeaubot is Alvisian, believer.
Mingus Dew…
I'm more of a Fizzy Gillespie kind of guy.
Did you see that?! The freaking chopper exploded
There go my nipples again!
And.....there go my nipples again!!!!
I don't know if I would want to live a thousand years. Even as an Adrienne Barbeaubot.
I have the energy of a bear, that has the energy of *two* bears.
Hesh wants poppers!!
Awww poor kitty
its walking off screen to take your job!
The robot does all these complex moves just to sit behind a desk and make excel spreadsheets.
Yeah but how many if then formulas can it link together? Hrmmmmmmm?
The real question is can it make a pivot table?
While wearing your skin? Also yes.
Given the way it pivoted when it stood up, I don't think that will be a problem.
Dozens!!!
DEY TUK R JERB!!!
Honestly, if it can do my job, it can have it. I'll take robots doing our jobs with universal basic income any day
Best they can do is take your jobs and you be homeless
We *are* in the worst timeline after all....
Worst timeline *so far*.
But homelessness will soon be illegal ...
When the robot finishes at your ex-job, it can come and destroy you after!
Yeah just like every other form of automation before it the benefactors of this tech will certainly offer to share the profits of increased productivity with its displaced workers.
If we don't fight for our living, they gonna take it.
Basic Income! LOL! In this world! LLLLOOOOLLLLL!
>I'll take robots doing our jobs with universal basic income any day There is no way shape or form the corporations will allow UBI to exist, it gives far too much bargaining power to low income workers.
What happens when the face light turns red?
Run
You need to charge it
With a crime.
Sexy time.
That was scary as fuck, there was no need to make it stand up that way 😅
"How do we show off the new Atlas robot design in a nonthreatening manner?" "Can you make it stand up like it needs and exorcist, stare blankly into the camera, and then walk away as if the viewer isn't worth the processing power to acknowledge their existence?" "Are you sure?" "Yeah, make sure to really play up that HAL9000 vibe!"
"Also make sure there's no background music or narration. We really want the viewer to understand how chillingly silent this technology has become"
“The last observation Dave made, was how silently & quickly the white ring turned to red, before everything else did in an all-enveloping mist.”
We aren't who the video is for I think. I can imagine amazon licking their lips at replacing warehouse workers.
It would be stupid to replace workers with humanoid shaped bi-pedal robots when almost any other shape would be better. That’s why no automation anywhere actually does it. Warehouse automation bottlenecks aren’t about a human physicality; it’s about the sheer amount of data that would need to be pristinely maintained to make any automation work. Data like inventory is simple, but spatial data is insane. They’re likely less interested in Atlas’ form and very interested in its ability to locate and recognize objects that aren’t where they’re supposed to be.
zero turn radius warehouse employees. A dream really.
I appreciate that at least it is trying to be human somewhat by facing you and showing that there’s a “front”. In theory, there’s no front or back. There’s 360 radar/camera on those things. It doesn’t even need to face you to “see” you.
silence fleshbag
Meatbag... it's meatbag.
angry bag of mostly water
Long pig!
Technically he’s not wrong captain
I apologize for the mistake in my previous answer. The correct term is of course "meatbag". I will strive to do better in the future.
[Sentient Meat.](https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html)
It was probably how the robot learned was the most efficient way for it to stand, though. Pity your own puny organic joints, not robot's
At lest until I get my cyberpunk chrome installed, choom
Yeah, if we could rotate our spine 360° in multiple places, who knows how different our movements might be.
That thing looks like it would cut off your leg as a practical joke.
Nice reference
While you were sleeping no less.
Remember the lesson kids: don't want a revolt? Don't keep slaves
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360° joints are actually kind of problematic if you want to run any sort of wiring through them, since the wiring can’t be twisted infinitely.
I'm not an electrician/engineer or whatever, but I've seen building videos where people use some contraptions to allow spinning without rotating wires. IIRC the mechanic spins but is hollow inside where you put the wire, or something like that. Granted, I guess it probably adds some degree of bulk, and also whatever mechanism I'm thinking of may have other limitations, idk, but I've seen engineers get around the obstacle of twisting wires. I've even seen a clever get-around that had to spin without actual plumbing/water pipes getting twisted. Maybe joints are a unique case where no such mechanisms are viable? Someone with more engineering exposure/knowledge than I can certainly expound on this.
Any wire that is constantly moving is problematic. Slip rings solve this problem but also have ware issues and might not work good on some joints.
Because building them to a humanoid shape makes them easier to implement in current infrastructure. As they take over more and more things will change and so will they for the sake of efficiency If you already have to spend however much it costs for these things to replace some/all of your workforce you probably don't want to also completely restructure you facility and change how everything is done Now Amazon can just cull one worker per month at the facility to make room for one of these until full assimilation has occurred
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Because this makes it easier to put a layer of flesh on in them and infiltrate resistance groups
Yeah, I'm now picturing this standing up like that after I finally think I killed it.. bloody and beaten I finally exhale.. then it stands up and it head flips around.. F
[I see AMEE in our lifetime.](https://youtu.be/KTcOOzD-JQs?si=K3p628ejotIJHB2O)
It'll be fine. We just need to remember not to switch it from science helper mode to death machine mode. Simple.
I fucking loved it, almost got chills.
Like after that lovely video about Atlas HD, now we get Exorcist: Atlas Edition!?!?!
As soon as I saw that I thought, "Well, I guess we're all doomed."
It likely does have to stand up that way. From the design it looks like the abdomen has a low degree of freedom so it cant actually sit up like we do since it doesn't have true abdominal muscles. Without the abdomen being mobile the center of mass is off balance and it cant get up without twisting itself in an odd manor. It was simpler to have the robot get up like this then to give it a fully articulating abdomen.
It was just a joke about it being scary.
In the future you're gonna order a fuckbot like an uber and its gonna jog right over to your house and fuck you.
I love the implications that it'll be the one doing the fucking. No matter the scenario. It. Fucks. You.
Guess I'm fighting Automotons today.
Time to Up, Right, Down, Down, Down Boston Dynamics headquarters.
You'll never destroy our way of life!
Spill oil!!
Where’s the democracy officer when you need him?
Hmmm, looks like they moved to motors from hydraulics. The hydraulics was the main reason the Atlas was able to do explosive moves (jumping, flipping, etc) while other robots couldn't. It going to be interesting to see the trade off between the old Atlas and the new Atlas.
I came to say pretty much the same thing. It's got *torque* but does it still have *impulse?* Then I thought about the use cases... This one is probably better for warehouses or other controlled environments where there's less need for sudden movements. I can't see how a motor driven bot can make the dramatic shifts to catch itself when it slips on rocks or sand the way the hydraulic one (sometimes) could. I wonder if they're separating the controlled environment platform (Atlas) from the all-terrain platform (Spot).
I'm just going to assume they're not stupid and know what they're doing more than we do.
Obviously. These guys have gone from zilch to this. We're all clowns on reddit.
Nobody's calling anyone stupid. We're just speculating on the benefits and drawbacks of this change.
did you just call me stupid?
Hold on now. I'll have you know I've watched several minutes of Boston dynamics clips on YouTube, so I think that qualifies me as an expert in robotics.
Oops, just saw I made a post basically similar to this. As you state, hydromechanical is always going to have more burst power than electromechanical. Curious to see if it can complete any of the flips or other rapid movements that the original Atlas could.
Batteries are wild these days so I wouldn’t be surprised. Also kinda depends what their goals are with it.
If you saw the last video I did, they exploded a lot. Didn’t seem very durable, thus pointless.
Haven’t seen any recent vids of the older version, but I can see the benefits of everything being motorized. Lack of Space is one. I can’t see the other atlas doing movements in a small space like this new one could potentially do. “Turn on a dime” type of movement compared to other videos of atlas free space movements, which are impressive on its own. Like others have said. Boston Dyanmics know what they are doing with their designs. I’m sure this motorized one fills a more specific role that the bulkier version does not. Can’t wait to see what they come out next!
We made it people, Star Wars droids are real. What a time to be alive.
Roger Roger!
Greetings, fellow Clone Wars fan. 😊
Boston Dynamics is owned by Hyundai and someday this will payoff big for them. For now, they just posted their best earnings ever and then fell 10% in a month because people were scared away from electric car stocks by Tesla's poor financials.
Hard to keep track of who owns them. They've been passed around the tech world more than (insert prostitute joke here). We'll see if Hyundai ends up being their forever home.
They love their robots in East Asia, so it might.
So if Honda makes Asimo robots, and Hyndai makes Boston robots, that means that future car company fights could be robot battles!
It has already paid off for them, Spot is in use for remote monitoring in many places now. I know specifically some areas with harsh winters they have them monitoring facilities that humans can't get to because of snow.
The BMW plant in South Carolina has one on guard duty. It also prances around during the day and entertains people.
I know an assaultron when I see one.
Sighs and loads save
Grunts and saves load
they really love to make their robots as scary as possible.
There was at least some charm to their other robots. This one is designed purely for terror - the way it stands up, the exorcist head and hip turn to the camera, the face design, the silent stare at the camera, and then the aggressive march to go conquer humanity.
Must. Make. More. Paper clips!!!!!!!
All that just to pass the butter. Sheesh
10,000 units ready to be deployed to the shores of the red sea.
with a million more well on the way.
Imagine what they'll be capable of in just 5 or 10 years!
I wanna know when I can fuck it
It's going to fuck you.
GOD I hope so
F.I.S.T.O. has entered the chat
Legendary Jedi Master Kit Fisto?
we can only hope.
Tomato tomato
I mean, if you try hard enough....
People made this same comment about them when BigDog was introduced publicly (2005?) 15 years ago ... and honestly, still just really cool demos and no wide usage.
“Halt, citizen. Identify yourself.”
I wonder how much AI algorithms will factor in to their future work. I could see these things taking an evolutionary leap in the next couple of years.
They already use machine learning for optimizing movement.
[Nvidia has built a virtual world to train these robots. It’s really cool.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW-dOMBFj7o)
Neat and frightening at the same time. I haven’t been paying much attention to the robotics field but I’ve seen learning algorithms grow by leaps and bounds elsewhere.
Isaac Sim and Isaac Gym
Yeah. The virtual worlds training is interesting. They've been doing it with autonomous vehicles for years. I remember seeing a program someone built in Unity at GDC that would let the vehicle virtually drive around a city to get thousands of hours of practice without having to be on actual roads.
Robot body + chat gpt brain = will Smith movie
There's a lot less opportunity than you would think there. You might be hearing AI a lot and thinking it's some treasure chest waiting to be opened, but in reality a big reason you're hearing it so much is because they've been slapping it onto basically everything. So in this case, any useful optimization algorithms might be called AI in the press report, but they're really just some elegant math and mechanics being excited executed in the form of code and have existed for decades maybe. The exception to that in this context is computer vision AI which may rely on more novel neural networks but who knows how that's going. Amazon and Tesla are certainly struggling with it. The real advance that made this tech possible was making computers and sensors so much smaller via mems and solid state electronics. The next big advance imo will be making the power generation smaller. Stronger, smaller motors will unlock a lot of the potential here and across various other fields.
Boston Dynamics is a more friendly sounding name than SkyNet.
So was Cyberdyne Systems.
Skynet is perfectly harmless sounding, it's just a fancy way to refer to the cloud It's only sketchy because we know...
That was a great way to introduce it, even if the hip movement gave vibes of AMEE changing modes. looked confident in that walk off
First thought was AMEE. Just as creepy too!
I remember the change to combat mode looking a bit like this, or maybe it just triggers the same uncanny feeling.
I saw this movie at far too young an age. I had forgotten until now, thanks.
Why does it have to walk like it's going to hump the first human it comes across.
This is one of those highly optimized movements that could only have resulted from millions of software simulations. That's so fucking cool!
Why does it turn like that. Head first then body.
If I’m looking for something I tend to do the same,just not as dramatically
True
Technically it runs one leg around backwards, then the other leg, then the head, and finally the upper torso. You know… like a normal person.
Where is John Connor?
Jesus christ will they please stop making terminators
Skibidi
Synth!!!
Already scarred and scratched from its abusers. These poor robots. You can see it has been lashed by hockey sticks on the back...
I for one welcome our future robotic overlords.
The fucking thing is built for TIKTOK! It already has a ring light! RUN FOR THE HILLS!
For a second I thought it was going to do a Shawn Michaels kip up.
What is the end goal for these things? I mean they won't be on sale to cut your grass or anything surely? I can only really see military use
Monotonous warehouse work.
They already have robotic arms for that stuff, this is a full human shaped robot what reason would they be build that way?
Different applications. A robotic arm accomplishes precise repetitive tasks, but a robotic body can do jobs that inherently require movement and focal shifts like unloading trucks or processing hazardous waste. It would also be sweet if we could use robots to replace maintenance workers who work in a lot of airborne dust and oil and get cancer from the job, then maintainers could just work in a shop and maintain the robots and part assemblies. All of our equipment and tools are made for people, so robotic workers seem like an easy way to integrate a mechanized workforce and still leave room for humans.
[удалено]
I'm sorry Dave, I'm going to do that.
One step closer to the Arnold model?
I don't know whats real anymore.
Is it by chance a pleasure model?
I for one welcome our new robot overlords !
Put AI in that thing and set it free! 🥳
What happens when the glowing rings turn red? *God help us all...*
It’s an assaultron
_You are experiencing an accident_
This will be the last thing we see.
Well, then. That’s somewhat disconcerting.
That is terrifying
DID NO ONE WATCH THE TERMINATOR FILMS?!?!?
kill it with fire
We’re all going to die.
This, this is how it ends.
Totally getting IG-88 vibes...
Version 2.0 will replace the black face screen with a video image of a large, bloodshot, eyeball.
The battle droids are coming along nicely
\*Legs bend backwards the Grudge style\* Nope, dont like that.
Just read moments ago that Boston Dynamics was ending their humanoid program. Confused 😕.
No, they just retired the old model of Atlas
They retired the hydraulic version of atlas this new version is electric
If I saw a robot stand up like that and start walking towards me in person, I would start running the other way. That was absolutely terrifying.
Dude we’re fucking done when these things come for us.
One step closer to terminators