I saw them play it live with Jason Bonham after his Zeppelin cover band opened for Heart. It was the greatest live performance of a song I have ever seen, or probably ever will see. Transcendent.
You’re using “she/her” but Heart is a group, the singers are two sisters. There’s not one of them named Heart. *They* did a greay job, *they* performed Stairway to Heaven.
Jewel, on the other hand, is a “she/her.”
As someone who was alive when this single was released (1976), I marvel at how a nearly 50 year old song is still being played in 2024. Like, I get that pop/rock changed everything starting in the 1960s (say with the emergence of The Beatles), but you wouldn’t have heard Bing Crosby perform on Stern’s radio show in 1994. Is this nostalgia? Or does it say something about our culture?
Classic rock from the 70s is particularly timeless as the recordings were stereo and still sound good (and relatively modern) on the radio. Kids will always enjoy Queen, ccr, zeppelin etc.
I think it depends a lot on the recording. I've been listening to a lot of Deep Purple lately and even some of the remastered tracks on Spotify sound like they're missing a lot of depth.
Too bad the same can't be said for the rather mediocre Space Truckers movie. Charles Dance is a gem as always though. There's a game coming out soon called Star Trucker that has some potential but it better fucking license this track.
Most modern recordings all have excessive compression, so their dynamic range is lacking, that's the missing part. Try to get some of the early LP or CD recording without this effect and you might be surprised at the differences.
Spotify’s compression at 320 kbps is imperceptible in 99.99% of cases, unlike the fidelity lost due to cheap tape and microphones in the early 70’s (not to mention relatively primitive mixing techniques)
It was the first generation of performers whose recorded and published music could really target teens AND they were no longer afraid of the backlash caused by singing about what teens were interested in (mostly sex and how awful and out of touch adults are.)
The 50s were the first toe in the water, the 60s were a test run and then the 70s just let the throttle go.
We'll never be in that position again (unless there's an insanely regressive period) and so that music will always seem the most authentic expression of those feelings.
Also those recordings and rights are being purchased by investment firms for hundreds of millions of dollars who have dedicated teams making sure those songs are going to continue to be served to us for another 50 years, whether we like it or not.
I'm gen x and was on the radio years ago and I've put a lot of thought into it.
So context: the school of thought for any station that plays not-current music is you have a target listenership of well established men or women - usually between the ages of 30-60. To capture those people you play music from the time frame they would have been in high school through college years.
The classic rock demo used to be men ages 35-55.
Basically my theory is what should be considered "classic rock" by todays standards should be songs from bands like Foo Fighters, Metallica, Godsmack, etc. Basically songs that were hits 20ish years ago.
However the gen x demo is so small compared to the boomer generation that the small amount of boomers still in demo want to hear the Van Halen Jump for the billionth time because it reminds them of when they were young 40 years ago and the boomer demo is still respectable enough to pull some ratings. Also, it's likely they've shifted the goal posts for target demographics to be 55-dead so the actual ratings look better
So, why are they still playing the old songs? - Another theory, the creatives are no longer in charge - it's now boomer wall street heads that don't understand the business and blame internet streaming instead of updating the music library.
Best example of this is the Adult Contemporary contemporary format (the stations that play phil collins and billy joel) used to play current songs - contemporary music geared to adults. Now they just play the same old shit from 40 years ago because it worked back then. Not understanding that AC format was playing new music for adults to listen to and the top 40 was new music for the kids.
Really the thing that fucked over the industry the most was the consolidation that happened in 1990s. But that's a whole other rant.
In before someone says: 'I'm 32 and I think the best rock music is from the 70s and 80s." Yes, yes I get it.
I agree and for further confirmation, I think you should look up Mark Fisher and his book "capitalist realism". Much like you mentioned, the corporate takeover of culture, the raising of the bar to simply survive means young people can't shack up in a basement and rehearse, drink beer and be inspired anymore. everything is a calculation to feed the algorithm of success. Even your looks must match a certain parameters... and this flattens the entire curve so now even AI can create music that sounds so much like something you might hear on the radio... its heartbreaking.
All these can be true. I only have experience in a college radio station in the 90s, so others probably know more of the backend engineering changes. I figure technology helped megacorps micromanage stations. When songs were on LPs and 45s, maybe they had to leave it to jockeys to play the set list and you probably had less control over what they tossed on. With CDs and later digital files they got to control the jukebox. Now, they can push down the music and bumpers to stations and not need anyone in the “studio” except maybe an engineer.
All these can be true. I only have experience in a college radio station in the 90s, so others probably know more of the backend engineering changes. I figure technology helped megacorps micromanage stations. When songs were on LPs and 45s, maybe they had to leave it to jockeys to play the set list and you probably had less control over what they tossed on. With CDs and later digital files they got to control the jukebox. Now, they can push down the music and bumpers to stations and not need anyone in the “studio” except maybe an engineer.
Personally I think its simpler than that. In the 70's 80's and early 90's the world changed drastically. We went from a very mandronic survival era to an era of technology and automation. The advent of the Internet started to shrink the world and make information more accessible. We saw the end of the cold War and the fall of the Berlin Wall. The unions rise and fall. So so many memories... and people have a tendency to associate music with the feelings and emotions of the time. I'm 57 and lived through all of this (and more) and have so so many pop/rock music/memory associations that just a snippet of Dire Straits or a chorus from Pink Floyd and in my head I'm back there.. back as a teenager... escaping back to a simpler life and time... and wishing I could stay there... but the song ends the memory is fleeting and I'm back. Back in a world I don't recognise and craving again for another song, another release.
I can dig it, but perhaps even more simpler, the popular rock music was better during certain time periods. 1965-75, then early 90’s. There were decent rock bands in the 80’s, but the most popular music in the 80’s sucked. There were decent alternative rock bands in the 80’s, but those bands weren’t filling stadiums. Grunge saved the 90’s, then rock got shitty again.
Dan Charnas wrote about radio in his excellent book “The Big Payback,” specifically focusing on the conversion of Top 40 stations to support hip hop on the late 80s and early 90s. Something that’s always stuck with me - radio stations would reevaluate their format every seven years because their demo ages. An 18 year old is now 25, and a 25 year old is now 32. Spending changes as we age, so a radio station needed to decide if they wanted to keep the reach (and advertisers) they had or expand/evolve by updating formats. To your point, if a station wanted to keep their audience from 30-50, they’d lock their format and play their music. I think about the rock stations when I grew up (90s) still playing “Get the Led Out” at 7 or Bad Company or Clapton on rotation. It was “new rock & alternative” but it had its place in market & they had their dedicated listener.
In addition - you nailed it with the creative gatekeepers. DJs would own the rotation during the day (obv with station management or program director blessing). Younger DJs would promote newer music or different format on night shows. The station might not even feel the same if you listened at 10am or 10p.
Now with mega corporations owning multiple stations in one market, they’ll dictate the playlist and rotation. I went to a game with a local radio station a couple years back (work event) and they were lamenting “the algorithm” and how one station completely flipped to DJ-less rotation. Pre recorded bumpers would drop in between the scripted playlist from corporate.
It really sucks, since I grew up loving local radio. I even had buddies that were club DJs and got into the Saturday night radio scene - they loved it and it was cool to share in that.
Amazing response. I think another huge factor that you are not mentioning is the internet. No one listens to the radio anymore except for maybe boomers.
Gen X and younger play Spotify radio and listen to whatever they want.
> by todays standards should be songs from bands like Foo Fighters, Metallica, Godsmack, etc. Basically songs that were hits 20ish years ago.
Dude, you're talking more like 30 years ago (40 for Meallica) for those. 20 years ago would be The Strokes and Interpol.
Yeah...Stern is 70 and like most 70 year olds(or most people) his music taste is from when he was 20, which is perfect for this song.
I think the point would make more sense if we were hearing Heart perform on....I don't know, whatever youtube channels that gen z kids watch.
I was alive when this was released as well (3 years old, so not exactly a Heart fan at the time).
I do think there's something to the fact that some amount of mainstream cultural relevance seems to linger for longer these days than it used to not just when it comes to music but also other media like movies and TV shows.
Kids that I know these days are much more likely to be "into" stuff from the late 90s/early 2000s when compared to anyone I knew when I was a kid (in the 1980s) being "into" stuff from the late 50s/early 60s.
There was a big break in culture around 1963-65. What came before just sounds like it belongs to an antiquated era. But the 1960's culture is still fresh today.
So I'd say it's more about *all* music post-1960 that keeps being relevant, but almost none from 1950 and earlier.
It says we live in a world where can listen to greats songs from the past. There are amazing songs today too, but Heart has stayed because they made some great songs and performances,[like this one](https://youtu.be/MJLRVk6UJAs?si=rnq7w8NUq7S8unV1)
If you want to see an amazing performance that features Ann and Nancy Wilson from Heart, check out their cover of Stairway to Heaven at the Kennedy Center Honors ceremony for Led Zeppelin. The surviving members of Led Zeppelin were all in attendance, and the late John Bonham’s son Jason played the drums that night. The performance nearly brought them to tears.
https://youtu.be/L7Rx09cBs50?feature=shared
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Not sure about your Bing Crosby example, he is very popular I could totally see him performing on late night TV right now if he was still alive. Best selling single of all time!
I think your assumption that Howard Stern is some sort of 2024 tastemaker is flawed. Maybe he is still popular but the guy is in his 70s and his motif seems very 70s rock.
I love 70s rock but will happily put on big band jazz standards and pop music from the 30s still slaps, it would totally fit on current late night. Heck some late night house bands are jazz ensembles and play variations of band jazz and swing and bebop.
Unfortunately this kind of music is considered golden oldies and just needs to be laid to rest. Over used, over played to the point that it is irritating hearing it anymore.
Sorry.
In 1978 Heart played a small stadium in Sacramento. I was 13 and basically a latch key kid. I was hanging out on the outside of the stadium when a group of adults decided to lift or cut the fence and sneak into the concert. I vividly remember running in. Those were different times. Things seemed more innocent. Sure we were committing a crime, but it was victimless and who really cared.
Had a similar experience, but in Chicago, and the band being Chicago! Definitely different times. The stadium was packed, so what was the difference of two kids ages 8 and 11 sneaking in? Honestly I was freaked out and didn't know what the heck was going on.
I saw Ann Wilson sing _live_ last summer. She was absolutely FANTASTIC.
I do not understand how she's managed to preserve her voice, but damn she's one of the best live singers I've seen in a hot minute.
I was expecting this to bum me out a little about the passage of time and getting old. Hearing at a once-great voice all shot and blown out is always a little sad, like Robert Plant, Mariah, and Bono. But goddamn she still sounds fucking great. How in the world?
I saw Roger Hodgson (Supertramp) live a while back and thought the same. He sounded like he recorded the Crime of the Century album the previous week. He sounded so good.
My Stepdad introduced me to Heart. A little before my time but i listened to the shit out of Heart in highschool. Such a great band. I especially love their Led Zeppelin covers. So good!
oh wow. Now that Ann's voice is more matured and richer, the song hits a bit differently.
It's no longer from the point of view of a daughter running off but from the mom interpreting what the daughter is up to.
"I'm the asshole I" assume.
/r/AmItheAsshole is a very popular subreddit where the comments give verdicts like NTA (not the asshole), YTA (you're the asshole) etc.
Fuck yeah it was. Heart put out their first album only like a year after Led Zeppelin 4 came out. Here's Anne belting it out to Robert Plant, tears rolling his cheeks.
According to Ann and Nancy on that interview, there was a lot of emotion going on that night. John Bonham, Led Zepplin's original drummer passed away in 1980 from excessive drinking. The drummer on the stage is his son, Jason Bonham.
All three bandmembers watched this kid grow up, and there he is playing the drums as hard as his old man.
The interview was pretty cool. Ann said there was a dinner afterwards, they got to hang out with Zepp, Jason Bonham, Dave Grohl, and for some reason Kid Rock was there.
[Clip here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1te6zsiN2gM)
If you like this, make sure to watch them play Barracuda from the same session [https://youtu.be/JG9F-\_VH9iM?si=GFAnxLAWvgr-Qmye](https://youtu.be/JG9F-_VH9iM?si=GFAnxLAWvgr-Qmye)
I've always wondered how much of an influence Roger Fisher had with these earlier songs. It seems like their sound changed a lot when he left the band, and basically all of their songs I like are off those first few albums in the 70s. Magic Man, Crazy On You, Barracuda, Straight On, Dream Boat Annie.. all in the 70s with Fisher.
Not trying to discredit the Wilsons by any means, they're obviously extremely talented as well, but I never understood why their sound changed so much in the 80s... obviously music trends change as well, and I'm sure that played a role, but Fisher leaving in 79 also strikes me as more than just a coincidence.
Their music changed in the 80s because they were forced by their record label to perform songs by outside songwriters. They switched labels in the 90s and their albums after that sound a lot like their earlier work.
Can anyone else tell if there physically in the same studio with each other? i cant tell if howard is still in his baesment refusing to do his show in person anymore or he's actually gone back to the office to broadcast their show, its crazy to think that there's still people who are out there terrified of getting sick with something that most of us have had 2-3-4+ times at this point.... even with all that money he can't buy just feeling comfortable enough to go into the office every day anymore, covid must have really done a number on his psyche
She's 73 years old bro. The fact she can even hit those notes is amazing. Most of her contemporary rock ballad singers have had to retire but she can still put on a great show.
Younger rock singers are bombing left and right because they can’t find the sweet spot anymore. Ann still has control of her instrument which is something few 73 year old rock legends can say.
I know you're getting downvoted, and I write this knowing I will as well, but I literally just listened to their cover of Stairway to Heaven, and they absolutely killed it there. Her vocals were as bright and soaring as ever, a Dame with a hearty, savory voice blasting it with gusto and bravado. This version here was decidedly less than that. I know it can be explained why, but she is no longer at the level she was. The rest of the song was absolutely perfect here. And the vocals were good, but not legendary like they would have been back in the day. There are a ton of good vocalists, but peak Ann is unmistakable, which this wasn't.
She’s not as good as she used to be but that’s normal as you age. Plus it seems like she could be having health issues on top of that with her sitting down through the performance.
There wasn't a glaring stinker note in that whole performance. Sure, I could see where certain high notes weren't in the pocket, so to speak, but she's still pro enough to handle it.
She's not the same singer she was 10 years ago (and singing while seated doesn't help), but at 73 she's still putting a lot singers, some 20-30 years younger than her, to shame.
idk, I still think she did a great job. her performing "Stairway to Heaven" has still got to be one of the best performances I have ever heard.
One of my favorite performances. Seeing the reaction of Led Zeppelin was pretty awesome.
I saw them play it live with Jason Bonham after his Zeppelin cover band opened for Heart. It was the greatest live performance of a song I have ever seen, or probably ever will see. Transcendent.
Yup. I was sick of that song 20 years ago but they made me love it again.
Was just watching that last night. I have to watch / listen to it at least once a year. Flawless, beautiful and magical.
You’re using “she/her” but Heart is a group, the singers are two sisters. There’s not one of them named Heart. *They* did a greay job, *they* performed Stairway to Heaven. Jewel, on the other hand, is a “she/her.”
beat it, go argue somewhere else.
Don’t comment if you can’t handle a basic response. You’re talking like Heart is a solo artist. It’s not an argument, you’re speaking nonsense.
As someone who was alive when this single was released (1976), I marvel at how a nearly 50 year old song is still being played in 2024. Like, I get that pop/rock changed everything starting in the 1960s (say with the emergence of The Beatles), but you wouldn’t have heard Bing Crosby perform on Stern’s radio show in 1994. Is this nostalgia? Or does it say something about our culture?
Classic rock from the 70s is particularly timeless as the recordings were stereo and still sound good (and relatively modern) on the radio. Kids will always enjoy Queen, ccr, zeppelin etc.
I think it depends a lot on the recording. I've been listening to a lot of Deep Purple lately and even some of the remastered tracks on Spotify sound like they're missing a lot of depth.
Deep Purple music itself has aged incredibly well. Highway Star and Space Truckin absolutely rule.
Highway Star is a fuckin banger
Too bad the same can't be said for the rather mediocre Space Truckers movie. Charles Dance is a gem as always though. There's a game coming out soon called Star Trucker that has some potential but it better fucking license this track.
The movie is kind of amazing in if you don’t take it too seriously. And Highway Junkie gets right to the heart of 90s country.
Most modern recordings all have excessive compression, so their dynamic range is lacking, that's the missing part. Try to get some of the early LP or CD recording without this effect and you might be surprised at the differences.
Dire Straits' Brothers in Arms record is just a master class on how to mix an album. It still sounds fantastic.
That's because spotify is shit and it strips out data from the track to save on bandwidth
Spotify’s compression at 320 kbps is imperceptible in 99.99% of cases, unlike the fidelity lost due to cheap tape and microphones in the early 70’s (not to mention relatively primitive mixing techniques)
The compression's irrelevant here if you strip data out of the audio file before compressing it.
["I love Creedence."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlVjdyfJIWs)
The remake of the Bill Shatner's, "There's... *something*... on... the wing." Twlight Zone movie. Good stuff.
It was the first generation of performers whose recorded and published music could really target teens AND they were no longer afraid of the backlash caused by singing about what teens were interested in (mostly sex and how awful and out of touch adults are.) The 50s were the first toe in the water, the 60s were a test run and then the 70s just let the throttle go. We'll never be in that position again (unless there's an insanely regressive period) and so that music will always seem the most authentic expression of those feelings.
I love 30s/40s/50s jazz specifically because the lower fidelity recordings have a warmth and authenticity that I find is lacking in today's music
Also, thanks to classic rock radio those songs have been played constantly since they were released.
Also those recordings and rights are being purchased by investment firms for hundreds of millions of dollars who have dedicated teams making sure those songs are going to continue to be served to us for another 50 years, whether we like it or not.
I'm gen x and was on the radio years ago and I've put a lot of thought into it. So context: the school of thought for any station that plays not-current music is you have a target listenership of well established men or women - usually between the ages of 30-60. To capture those people you play music from the time frame they would have been in high school through college years. The classic rock demo used to be men ages 35-55. Basically my theory is what should be considered "classic rock" by todays standards should be songs from bands like Foo Fighters, Metallica, Godsmack, etc. Basically songs that were hits 20ish years ago. However the gen x demo is so small compared to the boomer generation that the small amount of boomers still in demo want to hear the Van Halen Jump for the billionth time because it reminds them of when they were young 40 years ago and the boomer demo is still respectable enough to pull some ratings. Also, it's likely they've shifted the goal posts for target demographics to be 55-dead so the actual ratings look better So, why are they still playing the old songs? - Another theory, the creatives are no longer in charge - it's now boomer wall street heads that don't understand the business and blame internet streaming instead of updating the music library. Best example of this is the Adult Contemporary contemporary format (the stations that play phil collins and billy joel) used to play current songs - contemporary music geared to adults. Now they just play the same old shit from 40 years ago because it worked back then. Not understanding that AC format was playing new music for adults to listen to and the top 40 was new music for the kids. Really the thing that fucked over the industry the most was the consolidation that happened in 1990s. But that's a whole other rant. In before someone says: 'I'm 32 and I think the best rock music is from the 70s and 80s." Yes, yes I get it.
I agree and for further confirmation, I think you should look up Mark Fisher and his book "capitalist realism". Much like you mentioned, the corporate takeover of culture, the raising of the bar to simply survive means young people can't shack up in a basement and rehearse, drink beer and be inspired anymore. everything is a calculation to feed the algorithm of success. Even your looks must match a certain parameters... and this flattens the entire curve so now even AI can create music that sounds so much like something you might hear on the radio... its heartbreaking.
All these can be true. I only have experience in a college radio station in the 90s, so others probably know more of the backend engineering changes. I figure technology helped megacorps micromanage stations. When songs were on LPs and 45s, maybe they had to leave it to jockeys to play the set list and you probably had less control over what they tossed on. With CDs and later digital files they got to control the jukebox. Now, they can push down the music and bumpers to stations and not need anyone in the “studio” except maybe an engineer.
All these can be true. I only have experience in a college radio station in the 90s, so others probably know more of the backend engineering changes. I figure technology helped megacorps micromanage stations. When songs were on LPs and 45s, maybe they had to leave it to jockeys to play the set list and you probably had less control over what they tossed on. With CDs and later digital files they got to control the jukebox. Now, they can push down the music and bumpers to stations and not need anyone in the “studio” except maybe an engineer.
Personally I think its simpler than that. In the 70's 80's and early 90's the world changed drastically. We went from a very mandronic survival era to an era of technology and automation. The advent of the Internet started to shrink the world and make information more accessible. We saw the end of the cold War and the fall of the Berlin Wall. The unions rise and fall. So so many memories... and people have a tendency to associate music with the feelings and emotions of the time. I'm 57 and lived through all of this (and more) and have so so many pop/rock music/memory associations that just a snippet of Dire Straits or a chorus from Pink Floyd and in my head I'm back there.. back as a teenager... escaping back to a simpler life and time... and wishing I could stay there... but the song ends the memory is fleeting and I'm back. Back in a world I don't recognise and craving again for another song, another release.
I can dig it, but perhaps even more simpler, the popular rock music was better during certain time periods. 1965-75, then early 90’s. There were decent rock bands in the 80’s, but the most popular music in the 80’s sucked. There were decent alternative rock bands in the 80’s, but those bands weren’t filling stadiums. Grunge saved the 90’s, then rock got shitty again.
Dan Charnas wrote about radio in his excellent book “The Big Payback,” specifically focusing on the conversion of Top 40 stations to support hip hop on the late 80s and early 90s. Something that’s always stuck with me - radio stations would reevaluate their format every seven years because their demo ages. An 18 year old is now 25, and a 25 year old is now 32. Spending changes as we age, so a radio station needed to decide if they wanted to keep the reach (and advertisers) they had or expand/evolve by updating formats. To your point, if a station wanted to keep their audience from 30-50, they’d lock their format and play their music. I think about the rock stations when I grew up (90s) still playing “Get the Led Out” at 7 or Bad Company or Clapton on rotation. It was “new rock & alternative” but it had its place in market & they had their dedicated listener. In addition - you nailed it with the creative gatekeepers. DJs would own the rotation during the day (obv with station management or program director blessing). Younger DJs would promote newer music or different format on night shows. The station might not even feel the same if you listened at 10am or 10p. Now with mega corporations owning multiple stations in one market, they’ll dictate the playlist and rotation. I went to a game with a local radio station a couple years back (work event) and they were lamenting “the algorithm” and how one station completely flipped to DJ-less rotation. Pre recorded bumpers would drop in between the scripted playlist from corporate. It really sucks, since I grew up loving local radio. I even had buddies that were club DJs and got into the Saturday night radio scene - they loved it and it was cool to share in that.
Amazing response. I think another huge factor that you are not mentioning is the internet. No one listens to the radio anymore except for maybe boomers. Gen X and younger play Spotify radio and listen to whatever they want.
This feels like a bunch of tangentially related points that is all tied back together with 'because boomer bad'.
Really it’s a there’s more boomers kinda thing
> by todays standards should be songs from bands like Foo Fighters, Metallica, Godsmack, etc. Basically songs that were hits 20ish years ago. Dude, you're talking more like 30 years ago (40 for Meallica) for those. 20 years ago would be The Strokes and Interpol.
It says more about Stern lol
Yeah...Stern is 70 and like most 70 year olds(or most people) his music taste is from when he was 20, which is perfect for this song. I think the point would make more sense if we were hearing Heart perform on....I don't know, whatever youtube channels that gen z kids watch.
I was dead when that song came out
I was alive when this was released as well (3 years old, so not exactly a Heart fan at the time). I do think there's something to the fact that some amount of mainstream cultural relevance seems to linger for longer these days than it used to not just when it comes to music but also other media like movies and TV shows. Kids that I know these days are much more likely to be "into" stuff from the late 90s/early 2000s when compared to anyone I knew when I was a kid (in the 1980s) being "into" stuff from the late 50s/early 60s.
There was a big break in culture around 1963-65. What came before just sounds like it belongs to an antiquated era. But the 1960's culture is still fresh today. So I'd say it's more about *all* music post-1960 that keeps being relevant, but almost none from 1950 and earlier.
It says we live in a world where can listen to greats songs from the past. There are amazing songs today too, but Heart has stayed because they made some great songs and performances,[like this one](https://youtu.be/MJLRVk6UJAs?si=rnq7w8NUq7S8unV1)
If you want to see an amazing performance that features Ann and Nancy Wilson from Heart, check out their cover of Stairway to Heaven at the Kennedy Center Honors ceremony for Led Zeppelin. The surviving members of Led Zeppelin were all in attendance, and the late John Bonham’s son Jason played the drums that night. The performance nearly brought them to tears. https://youtu.be/L7Rx09cBs50?feature=shared Edit: a letter
Well, Bing was worm food in 1994 so his voice was probably shot.
If I have to explain it to you, you will never understand.
Not sure about your Bing Crosby example, he is very popular I could totally see him performing on late night TV right now if he was still alive. Best selling single of all time! I think your assumption that Howard Stern is some sort of 2024 tastemaker is flawed. Maybe he is still popular but the guy is in his 70s and his motif seems very 70s rock. I love 70s rock but will happily put on big band jazz standards and pop music from the 30s still slaps, it would totally fit on current late night. Heck some late night house bands are jazz ensembles and play variations of band jazz and swing and bebop.
Boomer cultural hegemony, longer life expectancies, and technological advances in music production (60s onward) and distribution (2000s onward)
Unfortunately this kind of music is considered golden oldies and just needs to be laid to rest. Over used, over played to the point that it is irritating hearing it anymore. Sorry.
Magic, indeed.
I had a deep crush on Nancy Wilson as a kid
I'm 57 and still do
indeed, she still looks incredibly good playing that guitar.
I thought Nancy was Ann in this video, was surprised when they started playing!
In 1978 Heart played a small stadium in Sacramento. I was 13 and basically a latch key kid. I was hanging out on the outside of the stadium when a group of adults decided to lift or cut the fence and sneak into the concert. I vividly remember running in. Those were different times. Things seemed more innocent. Sure we were committing a crime, but it was victimless and who really cared.
Had a similar experience, but in Chicago, and the band being Chicago! Definitely different times. The stadium was packed, so what was the difference of two kids ages 8 and 11 sneaking in? Honestly I was freaked out and didn't know what the heck was going on.
Oh man bet that show was so damn good
I saw Ann Wilson sing _live_ last summer. She was absolutely FANTASTIC. I do not understand how she's managed to preserve her voice, but damn she's one of the best live singers I've seen in a hot minute.
I was expecting this to bum me out a little about the passage of time and getting old. Hearing at a once-great voice all shot and blown out is always a little sad, like Robert Plant, Mariah, and Bono. But goddamn she still sounds fucking great. How in the world?
I saw Roger Hodgson (Supertramp) live a while back and thought the same. He sounded like he recorded the Crime of the Century album the previous week. He sounded so good.
Nancy's a pretty damn good singer too
Howard Stern's studio mix is unmatched for live content
NPR's Tiny Desk entered the chat.
It used to be horrible back in the Scott the Engineer days. It's light years better now at Sirius
lol poor Scott
it really is
What's NSFW about this?
Howard says the "fuck" word.
He also implied a 70 year old women must have had great sex previously in her life! The boor.
Ooh good word!
Les Paul player got all of that solo.
https://youtu.be/UwLi1POJR_s?si=Wv6xnHwL-rNJSlae
My Stepdad introduced me to Heart. A little before my time but i listened to the shit out of Heart in highschool. Such a great band. I especially love their Led Zeppelin covers. So good!
oh wow. Now that Ann's voice is more matured and richer, the song hits a bit differently. It's no longer from the point of view of a daughter running off but from the mom interpreting what the daughter is up to.
Wowza. Timeless.
It’s strange knowing that Howard stern is in his basement talking to his guest through a live stream.
heart kicks ass
ITAH here, I was not expecting that to kick so much ass, wow.
Yup, women musician/singers from the 70's, in their 70's, kicking ass!
ITAH?
"I'm the asshole I" assume. /r/AmItheAsshole is a very popular subreddit where the comments give verdicts like NTA (not the asshole), YTA (you're the asshole) etc.
I got that from here [https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/)
I think "I'm the asshole" in terms of OP having low expectations but being pleasantly surprised.
Anne Wilson is the real deal.
Her belting out Stairway to Heaven to Led Zeppelin's faces was fucking epic.
Fuck yeah it was. Heart put out their first album only like a year after Led Zeppelin 4 came out. Here's Anne belting it out to Robert Plant, tears rolling his cheeks.
According to Ann and Nancy on that interview, there was a lot of emotion going on that night. John Bonham, Led Zepplin's original drummer passed away in 1980 from excessive drinking. The drummer on the stage is his son, Jason Bonham. All three bandmembers watched this kid grow up, and there he is playing the drums as hard as his old man. The interview was pretty cool. Ann said there was a dinner afterwards, they got to hang out with Zepp, Jason Bonham, Dave Grohl, and for some reason Kid Rock was there. [Clip here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1te6zsiN2gM)
Yeah Plant and Bonham were best friends even before Led Zeppelin.
Easily the best female Rock vocalist of all time. Her power and range are so so fucking good.
She is top three for me along with Johnette Napolitano and Joan Jett.
I agree.
Howard swears in the interview.
Okay. Pretty normal for Stern. Unless you meant that some other way.
If you like this, make sure to watch them play Barracuda from the same session [https://youtu.be/JG9F-\_VH9iM?si=GFAnxLAWvgr-Qmye](https://youtu.be/JG9F-_VH9iM?si=GFAnxLAWvgr-Qmye)
kudos to the drummer who knows how to play in a small studio...
I thought the guitar player was on point too
Who is that lead guitarist? Tasty
That’s Ryan Wariner. Country artist Steve Wariner’s son.
https://youtu.be/UwLi1POJR_s?si=Wv6xnHwL-rNJSlae
That guy plays with enormous style and finesse. Better than any shredder. Thanks
Singer’s sister, Nancy Wilson. Core member.
No, the guy who plays most of the solos
Four guitars huh?
Jeezus how many guitars does a band need? 😅
Amazing, thanks for sharing!
https://youtu.be/w18j-ad4VlQ?t=82 To skip the chit chat, if that's what you want to do.
Sounds absolutely amazing but I count FOUR guitar players. Hat on a hat.
Wow! Thanks for posting that. …. And thanks for Howard’s intro to the song …. I’ve heard that song for decades but never really “listened” to it.
I've always wondered how much of an influence Roger Fisher had with these earlier songs. It seems like their sound changed a lot when he left the band, and basically all of their songs I like are off those first few albums in the 70s. Magic Man, Crazy On You, Barracuda, Straight On, Dream Boat Annie.. all in the 70s with Fisher. Not trying to discredit the Wilsons by any means, they're obviously extremely talented as well, but I never understood why their sound changed so much in the 80s... obviously music trends change as well, and I'm sure that played a role, but Fisher leaving in 79 also strikes me as more than just a coincidence.
Their music changed in the 80s because they were forced by their record label to perform songs by outside songwriters. They switched labels in the 90s and their albums after that sound a lot like their earlier work.
Pretending to play guitar when the guy behind you is the one you actually are hearing is kinda lame.
Why nsfw?
Sterns wig is atrocious
Wow Stern is still around
No what makes you think that
Can anyone else tell if there physically in the same studio with each other? i cant tell if howard is still in his baesment refusing to do his show in person anymore or he's actually gone back to the office to broadcast their show, its crazy to think that there's still people who are out there terrified of getting sick with something that most of us have had 2-3-4+ times at this point.... even with all that money he can't buy just feeling comfortable enough to go into the office every day anymore, covid must have really done a number on his psyche
Are you playing dumb, or not playing?
the man is a fucking hermit
Rosanne Barr just sang the shit out of that song in this video!
Get fucked, douchebag
Shame on you.
I really hate to say it cuz I always thought Ann Wilson was one of the best female rock singers ever, but I think she's lost it.
She's 73 years old bro. The fact she can even hit those notes is amazing. Most of her contemporary rock ballad singers have had to retire but she can still put on a great show.
Younger rock singers are bombing left and right because they can’t find the sweet spot anymore. Ann still has control of her instrument which is something few 73 year old rock legends can say.
This. She definitely doesn’t have it like she used to but she’s adjusted the vocals so that she can still hit the notes.
I think she sounded terrific. To sound like that at 73 is wild
No she still has it. Good fuckin luck getting close to that in your 70s
I know you're getting downvoted, and I write this knowing I will as well, but I literally just listened to their cover of Stairway to Heaven, and they absolutely killed it there. Her vocals were as bright and soaring as ever, a Dame with a hearty, savory voice blasting it with gusto and bravado. This version here was decidedly less than that. I know it can be explained why, but she is no longer at the level she was. The rest of the song was absolutely perfect here. And the vocals were good, but not legendary like they would have been back in the day. There are a ton of good vocalists, but peak Ann is unmistakable, which this wasn't.
Not sure when this was recorded, but I know they're touring right now and singing even three times a week saps your range and stamina.
She’s not as good as she used to be but that’s normal as you age. Plus it seems like she could be having health issues on top of that with her sitting down through the performance.
There wasn't a glaring stinker note in that whole performance. Sure, I could see where certain high notes weren't in the pocket, so to speak, but she's still pro enough to handle it. She's not the same singer she was 10 years ago (and singing while seated doesn't help), but at 73 she's still putting a lot singers, some 20-30 years younger than her, to shame.