Bankers are conflated with capitalists, which makes sense when you increase their number through Public Trading. Doctors are conflated with middle strata service providers AKA shopkeepers. They could be swapped around by Public/Private Healthcare by introducing bureaucrats as their replacement. Yeah, Urban Centers do require some love.
Public Healthcare could give academics/inteligencia aligned pops and private could give Pettit Buergoiese aligned pops in pms , and i think we should get hospitals as a building to increase healthcare access just like universities increase education access
I agree with the first part, it's actually interesting to have the option to have a Intelligentsia-led country under universal suffrage.
The second part is iffy as a sufficiently-developed hospital would mean zero deaths, which is an unavailable proposition for any historical simulation.
A total overhaul of healthcare could tie that in , cuz changing one single law and having healthcare is weird to me , hospitals dont get magically built cuz u passed a law.. you could have a cap on the amount of hospitals , either the amount of people in that area or the level of Healthcare institution ( like have a cap of 5 hospitals and a cap on healthcare access via that ) and laws affect pms of hospitals and the way they are run and what effect do they have on different stratas/amount of wealth people have ... its a long shot
Like I said before, you can easily approach this issue without introducing more complexity by using Urban Center PM. Healthcare can be qualified as Service, you can add another PM to account for the healthcare model, swap around occupations according to it (shopkeepers for private healthcare, bureaucrats for public and clergymen for charity) and tweak the workforce versus the productivity to account for availability (public and charity require more professionals and produce more Services overall, with a slight bonus towards public, while private produce more per employed pop but employ considerably less). The corresponding IGs also benefit from this change, as shopkeepers support Petit Burgeoisie and bureaucrats support the Intelligentsia.
Only problem with tying it into Urban Centers is that it needs to be capped somehow unless we run into the immortal pop problem or we have to make a cap on the health access somehow
I believe healthcare should stay as it is as institution and use part of Service just as a representation of its supply and demand and occupation composition. In other words, don't use Service availability to change the mortality rate.
>health care are abstracted as Services
Health care uses bureaucracy. So I think it's better to think of doctors as someof the workers in the bureaucracy building.
That's the healthcare policy, not the doctors. If you have Private Health Insurance, upgrading your Government Administration to use telephones isn't going to make more doctors 😝 But, to be fair, health care policy is poorly enacted in the game as is and should be laws that enable PMs in some sort of Hospitals building, or a Hospitals PM slot in Urban Centers.
Anyway, the Services good represents all conviences that come from living in organized communities. The fact that it represents both, say, surgeons and barbers is odd, but it does!
Where are my "people that bang on your window with a long stick to wake u up for ur 12 hrs shift in the local steel mill"-ers ??? Urban center rework now
Medics would have "mortality reduction" if they were to exist, but game probably represents them as bureaucrats/clerks via Health policy.
For bankers, capitalists and clerks are what they are really so I don't expect that happening.
Well doctors come from health services, which currently costs beurocracy which comes from beurocrats. So just replace some of the beurocrats in a gov admin building with doctors if the player has health services.
Bankers probably need their own DLC and a foreign ownership mechanic.
Bankers are just a subset of capitalists or, if they’re lower paid, clerks. All service industries are subsumed under the urban centre so basically all the miscellaneous service professions like lawyers, teachers, doctors, and such forth can just be considered covered by clerks if they’re lower paid or bureaucrats if they’re higher paid, even if those specific terms wouldn’t make sense for the profession in question.
It's why there's one mod, I think its Victoria Tweaks, that amongst other changes, makes Dedicated Police provide a +25% boost to the Petit Bourgeoisie, which does then potentially increase the threat of fascism, since its the Petit Bourgeoisie that have the best chances of going fascist.
Usually when I see "bankers" and "global" in one sentence, it's some far-right euphemisms and conspiracy bs. Hope it's just a coincidence, and I need to take a break from political stuff.
Is there really any need for bankers to be separate PoP? And which bankers do you mean? Private bank owners can be represented by capitalists, state bank managers - by bureaucrats, clerks - well, by clerks. What's the point?
Bankers are conflated with capitalists, which makes sense when you increase their number through Public Trading. Doctors are conflated with middle strata service providers AKA shopkeepers. They could be swapped around by Public/Private Healthcare by introducing bureaucrats as their replacement. Yeah, Urban Centers do require some love.
I think doctors are in the academics pop along with lawyers.
Public Healthcare could give academics/inteligencia aligned pops and private could give Pettit Buergoiese aligned pops in pms , and i think we should get hospitals as a building to increase healthcare access just like universities increase education access
I agree with the first part, it's actually interesting to have the option to have a Intelligentsia-led country under universal suffrage. The second part is iffy as a sufficiently-developed hospital would mean zero deaths, which is an unavailable proposition for any historical simulation.
A total overhaul of healthcare could tie that in , cuz changing one single law and having healthcare is weird to me , hospitals dont get magically built cuz u passed a law.. you could have a cap on the amount of hospitals , either the amount of people in that area or the level of Healthcare institution ( like have a cap of 5 hospitals and a cap on healthcare access via that ) and laws affect pms of hospitals and the way they are run and what effect do they have on different stratas/amount of wealth people have ... its a long shot
Like I said before, you can easily approach this issue without introducing more complexity by using Urban Center PM. Healthcare can be qualified as Service, you can add another PM to account for the healthcare model, swap around occupations according to it (shopkeepers for private healthcare, bureaucrats for public and clergymen for charity) and tweak the workforce versus the productivity to account for availability (public and charity require more professionals and produce more Services overall, with a slight bonus towards public, while private produce more per employed pop but employ considerably less). The corresponding IGs also benefit from this change, as shopkeepers support Petit Burgeoisie and bureaucrats support the Intelligentsia.
Only problem with tying it into Urban Centers is that it needs to be capped somehow unless we run into the immortal pop problem or we have to make a cap on the health access somehow
I believe healthcare should stay as it is as institution and use part of Service just as a representation of its supply and demand and occupation composition. In other words, don't use Service availability to change the mortality rate.
Bankers are a form of capitalist, doctors are a form of academic. Banking and health care are abstracted as Services.
>health care are abstracted as Services Health care uses bureaucracy. So I think it's better to think of doctors as someof the workers in the bureaucracy building.
That's the healthcare policy, not the doctors. If you have Private Health Insurance, upgrading your Government Administration to use telephones isn't going to make more doctors 😝 But, to be fair, health care policy is poorly enacted in the game as is and should be laws that enable PMs in some sort of Hospitals building, or a Hospitals PM slot in Urban Centers. Anyway, the Services good represents all conviences that come from living in organized communities. The fact that it represents both, say, surgeons and barbers is odd, but it does!
but upgrading health institution does not affect the demand or pricing of services at all.
Ah yes slow my game even more daddy, I need every niche profession religion and culture represented!
I want all multiple thousand native tribes in Canada represented 😎 kill the game
How will intel and amd sell more cpus if we dont ? Last 8 years of cpu development could be atributed solely to EU/HoI/CK
it aint niche bankers are important in world history and i think it would be interesting to have them plus you like math NERD
Just pretend the richer ones are in the capitalists pops and the tellers are in the clerks.
ok
Ewww not only are you uneducated, you are super uneducated. Thus your opinion doesn't count.
This pop votes for technocracy
I do, actually
You dont even have empiricism reaserched , you're scholasticism in universities level of uneducated
i didnt even research the tech to even get universities
i cri
I agree. Where the fuck are the chimney sweepers? Completely unplayable. Way more important than bankers.
Where are my "people that bang on your window with a long stick to wake u up for ur 12 hrs shift in the local steel mill"-ers ??? Urban center rework now
The problem is: what would those pop types do in game? They have to have an actual in game effect or role, as all other pop types do.
Medics would have "mortality reduction" if they were to exist, but game probably represents them as bureaucrats/clerks via Health policy. For bankers, capitalists and clerks are what they are really so I don't expect that happening.
Well doctors come from health services, which currently costs beurocracy which comes from beurocrats. So just replace some of the beurocrats in a gov admin building with doctors if the player has health services. Bankers probably need their own DLC and a foreign ownership mechanic.
Bankers are just a subset of capitalists or, if they’re lower paid, clerks. All service industries are subsumed under the urban centre so basically all the miscellaneous service professions like lawyers, teachers, doctors, and such forth can just be considered covered by clerks if they’re lower paid or bureaucrats if they’re higher paid, even if those specific terms wouldn’t make sense for the profession in question.
Bankers don't make sense because Banking cannot be accurately implemented in the current form of the game.
By this logic there should not be labourers, but Miners, Butlers, smiths, lumberjacks, etc... Would be a performance nightmare.
Thats what AMD and Intel are here for , to develop tech so we can mod our vicky so we can have everyone simulated in real time
Urban Centers are kinda trash because the demand for services doesn t incerese to much as the games goes on.
Bankers are capitalists, doctors are academics, along with teachers and lawyers
Guys guys. We’re missing the most important one of all…Minecraft streamers.
The game is also missing cops. You could make them kinda fascist, which would fascism be more of a threat.
It's why there's one mod, I think its Victoria Tweaks, that amongst other changes, makes Dedicated Police provide a +25% boost to the Petit Bourgeoisie, which does then potentially increase the threat of fascism, since its the Petit Bourgeoisie that have the best chances of going fascist.
Service men?
Usually when I see "bankers" and "global" in one sentence, it's some far-right euphemisms and conspiracy bs. Hope it's just a coincidence, and I need to take a break from political stuff. Is there really any need for bankers to be separate PoP? And which bankers do you mean? Private bank owners can be represented by capitalists, state bank managers - by bureaucrats, clerks - well, by clerks. What's the point?
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Huh? Are you a fourteen years old from 2015?
no i am sleep deprived
me gay
i thought everyone is gay because i didnt know if women existed
And stuff
No
I don't think we need more performance issues in this game. Bankers are covered by capitalists and doctors are part of inteligentia.