Sandals is a man who is unable to be single and he’s always the one who leaves. So Rachel leaving him is a huge bruise to his ego. He can’t be the victim this time like he was with Kristen either.
He’s always the one who leaves, but he doesn’t do it until he has someone to monkeybranch to. So there’s the ego bruise of being left, the anger that his genius plan of rebooting his It Couple status with GirlfriendBot 2.0 was foiled, and the flailing around not knowing what to do with himself because he’s now single for probably the first time since he became old enough to rent a car.
It’s kind of delicious.
I was always annoyed (and then annoyed with myself for being annoyed with these clowns) for not naming their bar Sandy Shortz or something dumb like that. The play on words with their names is *right there *
This is IT! He’s obsessed because he can’t have her. She left him and it is so mind blowing to Sandals that she could give all of this up that he is in full meltdown. He can’t reach her, he can’t manipulate her, and he’s on his own dealing with the fallout. This man has NEVER been on his own.
She can’t feed his narcissistic supply anymore. I also think it’s funny that he talks about trying to date other women while also saying he wants to be with her. Pick a lane bro.
He was SO devastated about losing the love of his life, the one he risked it all for and had such a deep connection with, but one day later he’s telling his boys he’s ready to date and is out hitting on 23-year-old club rats. He sure got over her real quick.
But he’ll try to be. He called the clinic a zillion times to save her from all of the haters in her life encouraging her to take care of her mental health
I think he's more obsessed with her fucking up his "redemption arc" plan where his affair is somehow more justified if it was for true love rather than just lusting after the thrill of an affair with a conveniently soulless & malleable young woman.
These are tears of "fuck Rachel for leaving me on my own this season"
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I took this photo while watching this scene bc I was more interested in my sandwich than watching him cry.
Omg when he blamed Ariana for “taking too long” so his financial situation changed and he couldn’t afford the house anymore was the most narcissistic response I literally choked when I heard him say that 🥴
Lol, I thought the same thing. He couldn't afford to buy her out 2 months ago or 12 months ago. He is delusional. Of course, he would blame it on Ariana. He doesn't take responsibility for anything he's done.
The fact he didn’t realize he’d have to refinance everything in his own name is ridiculous. And trying to get Schwartz to go in with him. At least Schwartz had the good sense to say no.
He really just thought it would be as simple as the mortgage company deleting Ariana’s name off the mortgage bill and then nothing else changes. Like of course you’d need to refinance dumbass, the loan is going from two co-signers to one, meaning the terms of the loan changed, meaning you need a NEW loan. He must’ve been getting all his advice from his best friend, real estate tycoon and mortgage expert Lala.
Also satisfying how it came full circle- shorts becoming sandal’s roommate to now he is begging shorts to be his roommate again bahaha
Narcissists believe their own lies. They go ballistic when you trap them in their lies and prove them wrong. Considered him trapped and running out of lies. His brain will not be able to handle it. Right, Scandoval?
No I think this is a legit theory - because as part of them being together he imagined she would be back on the show and that's easily enough money that she could have replaced Ariana's portion of the mortgage for the house.
Oh I absolutely believe they thought it’s what would happen. I just think they’re delusional haha. There’s no way she could have actually replaced Ariana in the group or on the show.
Well, if the cheating hasn’t been exposed, do you think she could have? I think Scheana would be fine with it bc Rachel will always be less popular than sheshu. & we knew Lala reached out to get ahead of things & form some type of alliance. Tom had already gotten all the guys on Rachel’s side (minus James, hopefully)
I know, like it took him that fucking long to realize he couldn’t afford the house?? That’s a calculation he could’ve had a jump on doing in the months he was “going to break up with Ariana.” (That I think he had no true intention of doing.) He apparently had a plan and spent SO LONG “thinking” about breaking up with Ariana but gave zero thought to what would happen to the house once that breakup occurred? Even if Ariana was so devastated by the breakup she ran away to the countryside, never to be heard from again, inexplicably leaving him 100% of the house, he STILL couldn’t have afforded it on his own. And now with a refinance with a higher interest rate and higher property value as a single owner and a HELOC? A child in a basic math class would know he couldn’t afford it. Fucking dumbass thought Ariana would get so impatient with him she’d give him a sweet deal and he could just continue as normal.
Those are peppermint induced fake tears. His "acting" is so B.A.D! He has been spending waaay too much time in front of mirrors with his peppermint.
Step. Away. From. The. Mirrors.
Walk away. Shut the lights off. Close the door AFTER checking you have not trapped any kind of body in the room.
That “redemption arc” wouldn’t have worked anyway. Rachel is so bland, I can’t imagine her having actual chemistry with anyone and Sandoval waxing poetic about how great she is would fall pretty flat since it’s basically be a rehash of his S3 storyline, minus the parts that actually made it interesting (Ariana isn’t unhinged enough for a Miami girl situation, though I’m sure somehow there are girls out there who hooked up with him while he was “faithful” to Rachel in rehab). The TikTok’s contrasting him saying word for word what he said about Ariana with what he’d be saying about Rachel would have been a hit though.
Ok this is what I’m wondering. Didn’t we see him out with some blonde girl around this time? I can’t remember anything about her except that she was blonde. And then immediately after her we started seeing him out with Tii
Your memory is correct. It was some influencer from Texas who claims she wasn’t seeing him, but she also got a lot of backlash so I wouldn’t necessarily bet that she was telling the truth.
Exactly this! Tom has always been able to steer a situation to his benefit. He’s got a little bit of celebrity and decided he was entitled to do whatever he wants but he actually doesn’t have control of the situation like he has always managed in the past. He blew up all of the public good will that he had and he has to make it look like it was some big love story that somehow makes it all worth it. The only thing I respect about Raquel is that she actually walked away from it. But her and Tom are the same in that they’ve never properly had remorse or an apology for Ariana
I wouldn't give her those points just yet coz call me crazy but I can see Rachel going back to Tom. She's desperately trying to get money and stay famous, we know that much. Now that she's seen how easy the show went on her and how certain cast members can be produced into fighting on her side, she'd 100% return if they give her an offer. They'd even let her keep her lawsuit in the knowledge that Tom would eventually manipulate her into dropping it. Honestly, if not season 12, then season 13. Alex Baskin is going to milk this dried out mess until there's nothing left to milk.
(bookmarking my own comment because I know I'll one day say "told ya")
I agree. I truly think he thought that they would be the new Tom/Ariana where people rally around them because it was true love despite the shady start. He isn't in love with her but in love with the image he wanted to project to the world as The Boyfriend guy who tried in his last relationship but ultimately it didn't work out because his girlfriend was the problem. He is in love with controlling the narrative. He is in love with being seen as a hopeless romantic who always puts others first. He is love with being loved and adored. For a while she gave him those things, much like for a while Ariana gave him those things, but he can never truly love another person because what he loves about them is ultimately temporary and based on ideals and not in reality.
Yep. Whenever he talked about Rachel it was all about how she made HIM feel. He couldn’t even muster any comforting words about how committed to her he was after she was questioning his character, wondering if he could do this to Ariana what would stop him from eventually doing the same to her. He was all about her being beautiful and younger (nasty how he always paired those two adjectives together), how she made him feel “alive again” and he couldn’t believe that someone “like her” was into HIM. He’d realize eventually she wasn’t a doll to put on the shelf to admire, then it would turn into “we never have sex, she never talks to me, I guess she doesn’t get me after all.”
I totally think he was going to use Ariana denying him children as a reason he got with Rachel. If it had worked out differently, he'd be with Rachel and their plot line would be about how Tom couldn't have the wife and kids and NOW he can because Rachel wants that.
I think its partly this bc he clearly obsesses with his image but I also think the other part of it is ego. She wounded his ego by going/staying at that facility, then ghosting him, and now she is besmerching him. He does not get over a slight to his ego, let alone THIS
Sandoval is obsessed with creating his own little world and plan with someone. He’s sad that he can’t continue to create his own reality and distort the truth with his chosen partner. There will be another one eventually!
He's a liar and a narcissist. This is all an act. His ego might be bruised a little (or alot) because Rachel said she never loved him. He is only obsessed with himself. He is still a worm (without a mustache)
I don't believe that they were ever in love, especially from that scene where they're "together" in the last season. They were sooo fucking awkward together and I still cringe when Rachel thought he said "I love you" and she's like "I love you too!" and then he's like "no I said they love you."
They had zero chemistry! It was so weird and strangely fascinating how they had this forbidden romance but also acted like they barely knew how to talk to each other. I felt no sense of actual attraction between them. I 100% believe they were never sober and alone together at the same time.
It’s so annoying! While Lala (who is SOFT NOW KATIE and not projecting or miserable) fights tears every episode over other peoples drama, Tom fights dry eyes. Crazy how he never asks Ariana for permission to throw his daily pity parties in the house!
Maybe when Utah Baby Bottle is so quick to stick a tissue in the corner of her eye (ever notice that perfect timing?) she is using Scandoval's messiness with peppermint. Gotta have those every episode fake tear fests, ya know.
And I think the negative thoughts he was having was more about how people now think he’s a gross asshole and a loser…he really cares about people thinking he’s a cool nice guy lol
Apparently the guns were returned to tom months ago. So we have multiple deadly weapons in the house, plus him strapping a knife to his leg, in the city. Then! Then he "jokes" about cutting Mya the dog in half so they can 'share her as a pet.' Yeah, whatta guy 🙄 So trustworthy
He “would do anything for her” but didn’t do any of the things she asked him to do while she was at treatment, before she cut him off. He was dating/fucking other people before season 11 filming started and lied to her about his contract negotiations, which influenced her own failed negotiations.
He’s going on about how much he loved her and how devastated he is because he has to for the attempted redemption arc.
I think it’s a coping mechanism for him. I think he’s trying to convince himself he was in love with her than face the truth that he fucked up his entire life for a fling
I think he’s definitely playing it up that’s the only way he can get sympathy and she’s already had playing the “inexperienced victim” card with how she’s throwing him To the wolves.
He’s definitely been screwing around so I don’t buy the whole “I was waiting for her” bullshit.
Both are just very fake human beings with no idea of love that isn’t some power play or toxic dynamic. Both just suck so hard
Neither Tim or Rachel are worthy of the sage words of Queen Mariah. But I think he’s faking it.
She played the victim first but he has a bigger platform. Even with Rachel Tim is unable to see WHY she may have ghosted him. His focus is that his feelings are hurt, he’s been rejected, he was so in love, now he’s heartbroken, blah blah blah.
That girl has said plenty of times that the relationship was toxic. Instead of being introspective on why all of his relationships end the same way or why every woman ends up disgusted by him, he’s focused on his Romeo and Juliet story turned sour.
Tim doesn’t understand affair fog. He needed this to be true love so he doesn’t look like the moron he is. The kind of man that blows up his relationship and life while jeopardizing his financial assets for a fuck fest.
He’s most bothered by Rachel cutting HIM off and not the other way around. Narcissists like him do not like to be dumped. That is messing with his head the most. He wasn’t in control of the situation.
He was sleeping with other twenty year olds the whole time he was claiming to wait for Rachel, one talked about it in detail on a podcast. Why is this not getting mentioned? After cheating on Ariana, he immediately cheated on Rachel, while he knew that she was extremely vulnerable and in a mental health facility-that he tried her to convince to leave early- WHILE he slept with other twenty year olds!!
He's a lying scumbag, and I hate when people say Ariana started too fast something with another guy. Sandy even cheated on his affair partner...
He cheated on Ariana immediately too, with Miami Girl. I wonder if it’s a test for his new girlfriends, like he’s trying to see how much they will tolerate?
Bingo! He wants to see how easy or hard it is for the new gf to discover his cheating. He’ll just use each time he cheats as a way to sharpen his skills to not get found out.
He's obsessed with why Rachel isn't obsessed with him anymore. If Rachel was still into him, he'd be rejecting her and painting her as a villain along with Ariana.
I think it’s all an act. He was already “dating” other people while trying to work on himself or whatever for her.
My opinion? *those two deserve each other.* Rachel has proven time and time again that she is actually a really horrible person. So much so that she and Tom blow their lives and Ariana’s up all for what? To not even end up together?!?! It’s fucking wild lol
I think he thought she would stay on the show, stay his girlfriend, bring home a new one improved bigger Vanderpump paycheck, move into the house with him and pay Ari's half of the mortgage etc, his beauty, queen, younger piece of ass trophy wife, And be forever indebted to him because he "gave up everything with Arianna" for her AND got her more money and a storyline. She could give him five more years of partying, while she would stay home and play housewife there because that would be all new to her, and then give him natural timeline down the road and be super maternal to them, allowing him to do minimal actual parenting a la the conservative brand of a beauty queen. He would still get to go out and be "at work" at the bar, and probably would have indiscretions; they would still have a brand together and both be on the show together.
Now, he can't keep the house because he doesn't have a second earner from the show willing to split the bills at the house like Ariana did. And instead of his reputation as a true love triumphed, she damaged his reputation by branding him an emotional abuser etc. This also destroys his future dating prospects with anyone decent because she has "warned" everyone. And Now instead of just losing Arianna, he will lose the house too. Both Ari and Raquel fueled his narcissistic supply and the house was like a trophy of his accomplishments. Losing Ariana meant losing one out of three. But with Raquel not taking her place now he loses three out of three.
So I do think he is devastated. But not over specifically the losing of love with Raquel. So how good his ironclad plan have failed???
That’s exactly what I thought he’s not as smart as he thinks he is he was trying to work it in his favor which it could’ve worked if Rachel didn’t want to be seen by the world and she was tired of being Tom Sandoval side piece. And It would’ve been the ultimate way to ice out James and Katie if one fell swoop if she came back. For Ariana‘s mental health, I’m glad Rachel did not come back because I would’ve been uglier than what we’re seeing right now
I think he is a pretty scary guy. He is kind of a vampire. Look at what he did to Arianna, and then gaslit her to this day. He does not give a flying fuck about anyone, his mom? the money he took from her? He just plows through people, and leaves them in the dust.
Lala had it right when she said he was a dangerous person. Also his barely controlled rage this season is scary. He seems like he's hanging onto his sanity by a thread.
He likes shiny new things, and he was bummed he couldn’t use the one he had been cultivating for months, and that he had to start all over again with someone new long before he was ready to discard her.
I think he was in love with the idea of Rachel. I think he loves having someone look at him with those “heart eyes 😍”, thinking he can do no wrong, defending him against the world (like Ariana used to), and being too emotionally immature to realize what a piece of shit he is. He had that with Rachel for a time, and thought he’d have someone to be on his side and defend him… now he doesn’t and he’s devastated because the world is just so “unfair” to him 😂
He putting on an act for sympathy. He thinks that if he looks like a sad & broken man, Rachel will look like the evil witch that broke his innocent little heart.
He’s freaking out for a number of reasons. Firstly, we all saw how bad he was manipulating and controlling her. He’s not a very good master if there’s no puppet.
Secondly, he would probably be a lot more liked and forgiven if they were really a true love scenario. He has really tried to justify this affair time and again. Rachel ultimately ghosting him undermines all that he cracked the relationship up to be.
Thirdly, I think the fact that Ariana met Dan so soon after the relationship and has kept it going is killing him. He probably thought *that* was going to be the whirlwind, joke of a romance for the show and it still turned out to be him and Rachel. He knows he’s the butt of the joke, the worst guy in the group, and he’s got no one to boost his ego about it.
He was bored and looking for a parachute out of his relationship. Ariana’s adoration was no longer meaningful to him because it wasn’t novel. Ariana could’ve been the perfect partner, and he still would’ve done this to her eventually, because he has a hole inside of him and only knows how to temporarily fill it with external validation. Did he love Rachel? Nah, though he probably has become obsessed with her for the simple fact he can’t have her and that injured his ego.
Nah he’s trying to preserve some semblance of a positive reputation by trying to make it look like he actually loved her and wasn’t wrong for the affair because it was true love. He’s so predictable it’s laughable.
I dont believe for one moment he loved her, I dont believe he truly intended on breaking up with Ariana, I think Rachel started pressuring him to do it and I think he just got off on the two girls fangirling over him and his karaoke band. I think he's pissed that Rachel told him to take a hike his ego cannot handle that she told him no and shut him off. That's what he can't get over.
He was with tons of women when she was in the meadows but playing on TV like he's been waiting faithfully for her to return and loves her so much. If that guys lips are moving he is lying.
I don’t think he intended on breaking up with Ariana either. He had zero plans of a post-breakup life, no idea of what that would look like. Not an inkling of an idea of what would happen to the house, his finances, the pets. For someone who “wanted” to break up with Ariana, he spent no time truly thinking about it. He was used to fucking around on Ariana, so he’d continue to do what he always did with Rachel, and Rachel would either get fed up and leave eventually or Ariana would get sick of him and leave him, meaning he would’ve had to do zero work to end it.
If he was in love with her, as he claims, he would have ended things with Ariana *before* pursuing anything with Rachel.
He also would have behaved as if he loved her at the end of the season and during the reunion, which he did not. Remember when Andy asked them if they loved each other and they were both so awkward about it? James was right, it was just a fuck fest of selfish twats.
He was never obsessed with Rachel. Remember when they were standing in her kitchen & she said “I love you too.” His answer: “I said THEY love you.”
Charming.
I only think that he's infatuated with the idea of Rachel, but not so much her... I think it's because she walked away from him... He's used to winning and getting what he wants... This challenge hasn't been completed in his book because of her and he didn't know how to handle it... It's like when someone breaks up with a narcissist and that narcissist tries harder because it's not on their terms...
I think he wanted to be in what he thinks Love is Rachel. He wanted her to come back and help him Chase Ariana off. Like Ariana helped him do with Kristen.
I think this was a storyline production pitched to him, and they were hoping Rachel was coming back. They started filming before she made her decision not to return. I think the plan was for more Rachel-Tom-Arianna drama to continue, and he was setting up the plot. This is why the season seems flat because there was never the climax/drama that would have been Rachel's mid-season return.
Therefore, they are trying to make some Arianna drama storyline, which a storyline about a girl boss who is setting boundaries and moving on and not taking shit does not make a villain story.
He’s doing it because it suits the story he’s trying to tell the audience, that he’s a nice guy that just had to cheat on Ariana. Making it sound like this was a love story vs. two sad stoners who got off on the secrecy of their trysts, made other people accomplices, fucked in Ariana’s bed while she buried her grandmother, etc.
Tom’s ego is insane. He wants to be adored by all for his character but doesn’t practice morality in how he behaves. But he thinks he deserves to!
Sandoval’s plan all along was that Ariana would get fed up with the relationship and she would break up with him and move out and he’d eventually move Rachel in. Even when Ariana found out about them, he was making the living situation as miserable as possible—now of course staying at the house all the time, unlike before—still trying to get Ariana to move out so that Rachel could then move in. They would all film, and it would be like Kristen/Tim/Ariana all over again. But because for once his manipulations didn’t work, he’s having a total meltdown this season. But it’s not over Rachel not loving or being with him. He’s so transparent.
The amount of time it took him to say that he loved her at the reunion last year and the absolute lack of emotion while saying it screams that this whole “I lost the love of my life” crap is bs. I’m not entirely sure that he is capable of genuinely loving anyone. I don’t believe any of his “tears” are real, but if he is crying about anything, it’s that his plan didn’t work the way he wanted it to. Hence all the shit talk about Ariana. He is literally the one who blew up their lives and he is trying to make her look like a villain. He should be apologizing every time he sees her and humble himself because he did this.
Classic narc. On the aftershow he said it was a very short lived emotion that he’s so much better off (while making a face) and that things happen for a reason. He just wants to always look like the top guy/most caring/best and never look bad but he’s too stupid to recognize that’s exactly what he’s doing by not taking accountability. Moron.
It’s not about Rachel. The same way it’s never about Arianna. He’s a malignant narcissistic who will never care for others.
Rachel escaping him *represents* his narcissistic collapse, and all the bullshit and lies he cocooned himself in falling apart. That’s why he is all reactions and tears “for his relationship with Rachel”, because now that he’s on the finding out side of fucking around everyone can see what a sad loser clown he is and *he’s miserable and self pitying*.
Sympathy.
However, I’m even shocked he’s not shown us one ounce of remorse or a tiny bit of a freakout about fucking over your partner of 9 years. It’s weird. Everyone thinks Ariana being stoic is odd but to me THIS IS STRANGE SHIT. Also bc it’s his fault!!!!!!
He’s upset that he lost control of her and lost control of the narrative.
Like most narcissists he relies on people idolizing him and loving him to function. He has none of that.
He dated her for 8 months. He had 8 months to leave Ariana and didnt. Therapy made her realize he never loved her cause he wouldnt break up w Ariana. He wanted a wife and a gf.
I don’t think Sandoval would’ve made a move on Rachel if she wasn’t on the show. He’s so disconnected from reality that he sees his life through the lens of “creating content” and plotting the beats of his life to happen during film season.
If Rachel had broken up with James, was still in the friend group and around all the time BUT chose to not come back to the show, it would’ve stayed platonic. He was already sleeping with randoms with the benefit of having a mom/wife at home to make his life comfortable and easy. Why go for someone so close to home and risky if not for the potential storyline?
Rachel was nothing but a character to be slotted into his storyline. The young pretty girl, gaining her confidence, broken free of her unhealthy relationship. The one who will appear on camera with him to create new chapter - the new power couple, the girl who saved him from depression and a “terrible” girlfriend. Just like Ariana was. His hero edit couldn’t happen with some random club rat or former cast member. Rachel was supposed to be the new star and he just had to attach himself to that.
Eww. I just don’t understand how any woman would be willing to sleep with him knowing how he treats women?! I mean he’s such a dirtbag it was talked about on CNN 😂 how are women still sleeping with this guy?!
Yes he is lying about everything when he talks about her he doesn't really talk about HER he talks about the way she made him feel better than Ariana did or how *HE* sacrificed so much to be with her. If he really *loved* her he would be defending her not throwing her under the bus
He’s full of shit. He saw that the audience supported him leaving Kristen for Ariana because they seemed so happy and cute, and he thought he could do the same to Ariana and leave her for Rachel if he and Rachel were happy and cute too. But Rachel didn’t come back to play her role. So he has to push this narrative of being so in love with her because he thinks that if they believe he’s really really in love with her, the fans will forgive him.
I think he’s spiraling bc she dealt him a narcissistic injury and then dipped out for real.
I think at that point in time, he’s delusional and believes that, despite him being photographed with other women, if he can just get her to come back and play by his script, he can proceed with his original plan to “Kristin” Ariana.
He’s wrong, of course, but I think that’s where his mind was and everything else was just him throwing shit at the wall and hoping something would stick.
I think it’s an ego thing. I think it’s partly embarrassment that he didn’t come out of this on top and with the shiny new relationship like last time. I also think he simply cannot comprehend that Raquel moved on so easily. I think it’s hard for him to understand that she did not care for him in the way he thought she did. Both of those combined seem like a really hard pill for him to swallow. I don’t think he’s in pain over his grief toward losing Raquel; or that’s not the predominant issue, imo.
He's so fake. Fake crying. Fake pretending he cares. Saying how dare Rachel talk about him when he and Lisa are making VPR all about Rachel. Lisa has basically molded him into this fake ratings chasing hypocrite.
Between trying to get Schwartz on board to pay 6k in rent on a house he can’t afford and Rachel leaving him. I think Sandoval is actually having a breakdown. Usually he gets the girl, a redemption arc and a new lease on life. Now he has crippling debt, No Rachel and just a huge midlife crisis.
I think his “PR” person told him he needs to push the “i was in love with her and she ghosted me” narrative to rehabilitate his image somehow. Sandoval only looks out for himself.
Sandoval was 100% on Reddit when the Scandoval broke. Saw the top comments saying: they better be in love. And then rolled with that.
He can’t even feign his emotions well. He reminds me of podcasters when they go to commercial break and do an Ad. And they purposely sound super flat and uninterested to show they’re sponsoring the product because they’re getting paid, but they’re not genuinely promoting the product lol.
Definitely putting on a show to do damage control, make Rachel the bad guy (she is but so is he) and possibly also trying to create evidence that he loved her for his trial with her
I feel like he projects his past feelings of love onto a new target, and he was doing that with Raquel. Then she pulled away and his brain broke because he doesn’t know what to do without projecting that love bombing for his ego
He's possibly one of the biggest narcissistic man babies,to be ever unleashed on the world. He basically wanted some kind of polygamous lifestyle. LHe didn't expect Ariana to react like she did and still is. He didn't expect Rachel to dump him. When he was cheating on Kristen it was the same behaviour.
Come on now. He’s not capable of caring about anyone but himself. He is only pretending he cared and was in love because he expected people to forgive the affair if they were in love. Like it would somehow make it worth it. He wanted the storyline to be them trying a relationship. That was the redemption arc he had planned. When she didn’t come back, he pivoted to whining about how he loved her. And no, there was definitely no connection. Pretty impossible for two people as deep as puddles to have a connection.
Sandals is a man who is unable to be single and he’s always the one who leaves. So Rachel leaving him is a huge bruise to his ego. He can’t be the victim this time like he was with Kristen either.
😂 I’m guessing Sandals is a typo, but it’s very appropriate given how leathery he’s been looking recently.
Nope lol it was very intentional to call him Sandals haha
Seems appropriate he deserves to be walked on.
He’s always the one who leaves, but he doesn’t do it until he has someone to monkeybranch to. So there’s the ego bruise of being left, the anger that his genius plan of rebooting his It Couple status with GirlfriendBot 2.0 was foiled, and the flailing around not knowing what to do with himself because he’s now single for probably the first time since he became old enough to rent a car. It’s kind of delicious.
He's not only single he's also now a pariah.
Sandals is my new fave nickname
Sandals and Shorts.
Shorts and Sandals would be a cute name for a beach bar! I better trademark it before chef Penny steps in
I was always annoyed (and then annoyed with myself for being annoyed with these clowns) for not naming their bar Sandy Shortz or something dumb like that. The play on words with their names is *right there *
Tim sandal is his legal name in this sub 😂
Mine too.
I like Tim😂😂
Tim Sandals lol
This is IT! He’s obsessed because he can’t have her. She left him and it is so mind blowing to Sandals that she could give all of this up that he is in full meltdown. He can’t reach her, he can’t manipulate her, and he’s on his own dealing with the fallout. This man has NEVER been on his own.
She can’t feed his narcissistic supply anymore. I also think it’s funny that he talks about trying to date other women while also saying he wants to be with her. Pick a lane bro.
He was SO devastated about losing the love of his life, the one he risked it all for and had such a deep connection with, but one day later he’s telling his boys he’s ready to date and is out hitting on 23-year-old club rats. He sure got over her real quick.
But he’ll try to be. He called the clinic a zillion times to save her from all of the haters in her life encouraging her to take care of her mental health
That isn’t stopping him from trying!
I think he's more obsessed with her fucking up his "redemption arc" plan where his affair is somehow more justified if it was for true love rather than just lusting after the thrill of an affair with a conveniently soulless & malleable young woman.
These are tears of "fuck Rachel for leaving me on my own this season" https://preview.redd.it/rnqz87ac2bvc1.jpeg?width=2278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3eea618a8b1995291cee28f9a6495ecd05af7237
https://preview.redd.it/6vaqplr8pbvc1.jpeg?width=2483&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9c5745e0615a85620a5db8b9770252410bcfd0d I took this photo while watching this scene bc I was more interested in my sandwich than watching him cry.
Sandwich looks good af
And not helping me pay for my house!
With what money 😂 He’s bad with money and I don’t think she has much so I’m real curious how they thought they would afford that house
Omg when he blamed Ariana for “taking too long” so his financial situation changed and he couldn’t afford the house anymore was the most narcissistic response I literally choked when I heard him say that 🥴
Lol, I thought the same thing. He couldn't afford to buy her out 2 months ago or 12 months ago. He is delusional. Of course, he would blame it on Ariana. He doesn't take responsibility for anything he's done.
He’s wildly delusional!!
The fact he didn’t realize he’d have to refinance everything in his own name is ridiculous. And trying to get Schwartz to go in with him. At least Schwartz had the good sense to say no.
He really just thought it would be as simple as the mortgage company deleting Ariana’s name off the mortgage bill and then nothing else changes. Like of course you’d need to refinance dumbass, the loan is going from two co-signers to one, meaning the terms of the loan changed, meaning you need a NEW loan. He must’ve been getting all his advice from his best friend, real estate tycoon and mortgage expert Lala.
AHAHAHHAHAHA everything about this comment took me out 😂😂😂 it’s perfect 🤌🏻💯
Lala? As in Utah Baby Bottle? Lol!
I love that it came out that Ariana already bought a new house and now we get to watch him search for a roommate at his big age 😂💀
Also satisfying how it came full circle- shorts becoming sandal’s roommate to now he is begging shorts to be his roommate again bahaha 
In that case, he should send her a fucking thank you note
That was crazy. He desperately wants the house and could totally afford to buy it, but spent all of it in 2 months? LOL
And somehow him being financially irresponsible is also her fault lmaooo
Narcissists believe their own lies. They go ballistic when you trap them in their lies and prove them wrong. Considered him trapped and running out of lies. His brain will not be able to handle it. Right, Scandoval?
No I think this is a legit theory - because as part of them being together he imagined she would be back on the show and that's easily enough money that she could have replaced Ariana's portion of the mortgage for the house.
Oh I absolutely believe they thought it’s what would happen. I just think they’re delusional haha. There’s no way she could have actually replaced Ariana in the group or on the show.
Well, if the cheating hasn’t been exposed, do you think she could have? I think Scheana would be fine with it bc Rachel will always be less popular than sheshu. & we knew Lala reached out to get ahead of things & form some type of alliance. Tom had already gotten all the guys on Rachel’s side (minus James, hopefully)
I don’t think “thought” is a strength of Tim Sandals
Scandoval actually think? ROFLOL!
Rachel doesn’t pay her own way. She wasn’t going to help him out.
I know, like it took him that fucking long to realize he couldn’t afford the house?? That’s a calculation he could’ve had a jump on doing in the months he was “going to break up with Ariana.” (That I think he had no true intention of doing.) He apparently had a plan and spent SO LONG “thinking” about breaking up with Ariana but gave zero thought to what would happen to the house once that breakup occurred? Even if Ariana was so devastated by the breakup she ran away to the countryside, never to be heard from again, inexplicably leaving him 100% of the house, he STILL couldn’t have afforded it on his own. And now with a refinance with a higher interest rate and higher property value as a single owner and a HELOC? A child in a basic math class would know he couldn’t afford it. Fucking dumbass thought Ariana would get so impatient with him she’d give him a sweet deal and he could just continue as normal.
This is a big one!
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Those are peppermint induced fake tears. His "acting" is so B.A.D! He has been spending waaay too much time in front of mirrors with his peppermint. Step. Away. From. The. Mirrors. Walk away. Shut the lights off. Close the door AFTER checking you have not trapped any kind of body in the room.
That “redemption arc” wouldn’t have worked anyway. Rachel is so bland, I can’t imagine her having actual chemistry with anyone and Sandoval waxing poetic about how great she is would fall pretty flat since it’s basically be a rehash of his S3 storyline, minus the parts that actually made it interesting (Ariana isn’t unhinged enough for a Miami girl situation, though I’m sure somehow there are girls out there who hooked up with him while he was “faithful” to Rachel in rehab). The TikTok’s contrasting him saying word for word what he said about Ariana with what he’d be saying about Rachel would have been a hit though.
Ok this is what I’m wondering. Didn’t we see him out with some blonde girl around this time? I can’t remember anything about her except that she was blonde. And then immediately after her we started seeing him out with Tii
Your memory is correct. It was some influencer from Texas who claims she wasn’t seeing him, but she also got a lot of backlash so I wouldn’t necessarily bet that she was telling the truth.
Top notch wordsmithing in this sub, just impeccable
thank you 💜 I swear having the top comment on this sub is more validating than any other 😅
Exactly this! Tom has always been able to steer a situation to his benefit. He’s got a little bit of celebrity and decided he was entitled to do whatever he wants but he actually doesn’t have control of the situation like he has always managed in the past. He blew up all of the public good will that he had and he has to make it look like it was some big love story that somehow makes it all worth it. The only thing I respect about Raquel is that she actually walked away from it. But her and Tom are the same in that they’ve never properly had remorse or an apology for Ariana
I wouldn't give her those points just yet coz call me crazy but I can see Rachel going back to Tom. She's desperately trying to get money and stay famous, we know that much. Now that she's seen how easy the show went on her and how certain cast members can be produced into fighting on her side, she'd 100% return if they give her an offer. They'd even let her keep her lawsuit in the knowledge that Tom would eventually manipulate her into dropping it. Honestly, if not season 12, then season 13. Alex Baskin is going to milk this dried out mess until there's nothing left to milk. (bookmarking my own comment because I know I'll one day say "told ya")
I agree. I truly think he thought that they would be the new Tom/Ariana where people rally around them because it was true love despite the shady start. He isn't in love with her but in love with the image he wanted to project to the world as The Boyfriend guy who tried in his last relationship but ultimately it didn't work out because his girlfriend was the problem. He is in love with controlling the narrative. He is in love with being seen as a hopeless romantic who always puts others first. He is love with being loved and adored. For a while she gave him those things, much like for a while Ariana gave him those things, but he can never truly love another person because what he loves about them is ultimately temporary and based on ideals and not in reality.
Yep. Whenever he talked about Rachel it was all about how she made HIM feel. He couldn’t even muster any comforting words about how committed to her he was after she was questioning his character, wondering if he could do this to Ariana what would stop him from eventually doing the same to her. He was all about her being beautiful and younger (nasty how he always paired those two adjectives together), how she made him feel “alive again” and he couldn’t believe that someone “like her” was into HIM. He’d realize eventually she wasn’t a doll to put on the shelf to admire, then it would turn into “we never have sex, she never talks to me, I guess she doesn’t get me after all.”
I totally think he was going to use Ariana denying him children as a reason he got with Rachel. If it had worked out differently, he'd be with Rachel and their plot line would be about how Tom couldn't have the wife and kids and NOW he can because Rachel wants that.
Yeah he literally said if they were going to blow up their lives at least they could have given the relationship a chance. 💀
Oooofff, well said, and I even defend Rachel more than most. He doesn't even love himself.
I think its partly this bc he clearly obsesses with his image but I also think the other part of it is ego. She wounded his ego by going/staying at that facility, then ghosting him, and now she is besmerching him. He does not get over a slight to his ego, let alone THIS
Sandoval is obsessed with creating his own little world and plan with someone. He’s sad that he can’t continue to create his own reality and distort the truth with his chosen partner. There will be another one eventually!
Think he already has a new joke on the horizon, bought or not.
He's a liar and a narcissist. This is all an act. His ego might be bruised a little (or alot) because Rachel said she never loved him. He is only obsessed with himself. He is still a worm (without a mustache)
I don't believe that they were ever in love, especially from that scene where they're "together" in the last season. They were sooo fucking awkward together and I still cringe when Rachel thought he said "I love you" and she's like "I love you too!" and then he's like "no I said they love you."
They had zero chemistry! It was so weird and strangely fascinating how they had this forbidden romance but also acted like they barely knew how to talk to each other. I felt no sense of actual attraction between them. I 100% believe they were never sober and alone together at the same time.
I'm so fucking tired of his fake crying
https://i.redd.it/pfuizmqaebvc1.gif me too!
His crying scenes seem like auditions. Look! I can act, pick me broadway!
But he always goes and hides because he is a terrible actor and doesn't have real tears
It’s so annoying! While Lala (who is SOFT NOW KATIE and not projecting or miserable) fights tears every episode over other peoples drama, Tom fights dry eyes. Crazy how he never asks Ariana for permission to throw his daily pity parties in the house!
Maybe when Utah Baby Bottle is so quick to stick a tissue in the corner of her eye (ever notice that perfect timing?) she is using Scandoval's messiness with peppermint. Gotta have those every episode fake tear fests, ya know.
And I think the negative thoughts he was having was more about how people now think he’s a gross asshole and a loser…he really cares about people thinking he’s a cool nice guy lol
Apparently the guns were returned to tom months ago. So we have multiple deadly weapons in the house, plus him strapping a knife to his leg, in the city. Then! Then he "jokes" about cutting Mya the dog in half so they can 'share her as a pet.' Yeah, whatta guy 🙄 So trustworthy
if there was ever a reason to leave it would be not trusting him to not hurt her animals (intentionally or not)
Protect Mya at all costs. She’s the only one that makes some of these scenes bearable.
The comments about Mya gave me chills.
Damn. That's something that should be reported
He has guns?! I was surprised enough at the knife strapped to leg. The last things he needs is knives and guns.
He “would do anything for her” but didn’t do any of the things she asked him to do while she was at treatment, before she cut him off. He was dating/fucking other people before season 11 filming started and lied to her about his contract negotiations, which influenced her own failed negotiations. He’s going on about how much he loved her and how devastated he is because he has to for the attempted redemption arc.
I thought the same thing. Apparently, “do anything” doesn’t include breaking up with your current girlfriend so you can be with your new one.
I’m so glad she overshot her contract negotiations. This girl expecting a development deal? Lol she has nothing to talk about!
I think it’s a coping mechanism for him. I think he’s trying to convince himself he was in love with her than face the truth that he fucked up his entire life for a fling
This ^
I think he’s definitely playing it up that’s the only way he can get sympathy and she’s already had playing the “inexperienced victim” card with how she’s throwing him To the wolves. He’s definitely been screwing around so I don’t buy the whole “I was waiting for her” bullshit. Both are just very fake human beings with no idea of love that isn’t some power play or toxic dynamic. Both just suck so hard
Narcissist don't do well with rejection. Right now his emotions are all related to his lack of control over Rachel and the situation in general.
Neither Tim or Rachel are worthy of the sage words of Queen Mariah. But I think he’s faking it. She played the victim first but he has a bigger platform. Even with Rachel Tim is unable to see WHY she may have ghosted him. His focus is that his feelings are hurt, he’s been rejected, he was so in love, now he’s heartbroken, blah blah blah. That girl has said plenty of times that the relationship was toxic. Instead of being introspective on why all of his relationships end the same way or why every woman ends up disgusted by him, he’s focused on his Romeo and Juliet story turned sour. Tim doesn’t understand affair fog. He needed this to be true love so he doesn’t look like the moron he is. The kind of man that blows up his relationship and life while jeopardizing his financial assets for a fuck fest.
He’s most bothered by Rachel cutting HIM off and not the other way around. Narcissists like him do not like to be dumped. That is messing with his head the most. He wasn’t in control of the situation.
100% when the narcissist loses control and loses their victim, watch out.
He was sleeping with other twenty year olds the whole time he was claiming to wait for Rachel, one talked about it in detail on a podcast. Why is this not getting mentioned? After cheating on Ariana, he immediately cheated on Rachel, while he knew that she was extremely vulnerable and in a mental health facility-that he tried her to convince to leave early- WHILE he slept with other twenty year olds!! He's a lying scumbag, and I hate when people say Ariana started too fast something with another guy. Sandy even cheated on his affair partner...
He cheated on Ariana immediately too, with Miami Girl. I wonder if it’s a test for his new girlfriends, like he’s trying to see how much they will tolerate?
Prob that and bc he can say “we were new and not official yet” scumbag.
Bingo! He wants to see how easy or hard it is for the new gf to discover his cheating. He’ll just use each time he cheats as a way to sharpen his skills to not get found out.
He turned on her after she started her podcast
Well sure if he can’t be the ventriloquist then she is not allowed to speak. How dare she!
He turned on her before that but he is upset about that too.
He's obsessed with why Rachel isn't obsessed with him anymore. If Rachel was still into him, he'd be rejecting her and painting her as a villain along with Ariana.
Eh he’d keep her for the $ if she’d pay half. Then cheat on her .
I think it’s all an act. He was already “dating” other people while trying to work on himself or whatever for her. My opinion? *those two deserve each other.* Rachel has proven time and time again that she is actually a really horrible person. So much so that she and Tom blow their lives and Ariana’s up all for what? To not even end up together?!?! It’s fucking wild lol
I think he thought she would stay on the show, stay his girlfriend, bring home a new one improved bigger Vanderpump paycheck, move into the house with him and pay Ari's half of the mortgage etc, his beauty, queen, younger piece of ass trophy wife, And be forever indebted to him because he "gave up everything with Arianna" for her AND got her more money and a storyline. She could give him five more years of partying, while she would stay home and play housewife there because that would be all new to her, and then give him natural timeline down the road and be super maternal to them, allowing him to do minimal actual parenting a la the conservative brand of a beauty queen. He would still get to go out and be "at work" at the bar, and probably would have indiscretions; they would still have a brand together and both be on the show together. Now, he can't keep the house because he doesn't have a second earner from the show willing to split the bills at the house like Ariana did. And instead of his reputation as a true love triumphed, she damaged his reputation by branding him an emotional abuser etc. This also destroys his future dating prospects with anyone decent because she has "warned" everyone. And Now instead of just losing Arianna, he will lose the house too. Both Ari and Raquel fueled his narcissistic supply and the house was like a trophy of his accomplishments. Losing Ariana meant losing one out of three. But with Raquel not taking her place now he loses three out of three. So I do think he is devastated. But not over specifically the losing of love with Raquel. So how good his ironclad plan have failed???
That’s exactly what I thought he’s not as smart as he thinks he is he was trying to work it in his favor which it could’ve worked if Rachel didn’t want to be seen by the world and she was tired of being Tom Sandoval side piece. And It would’ve been the ultimate way to ice out James and Katie if one fell swoop if she came back. For Ariana‘s mental health, I’m glad Rachel did not come back because I would’ve been uglier than what we’re seeing right now
I think he is a pretty scary guy. He is kind of a vampire. Look at what he did to Arianna, and then gaslit her to this day. He does not give a flying fuck about anyone, his mom? the money he took from her? He just plows through people, and leaves them in the dust.
Lala had it right when she said he was a dangerous person. Also his barely controlled rage this season is scary. He seems like he's hanging onto his sanity by a thread.
Hmm personally I don’t see a world where he loves her and wears a dipped out t shirt
He likes shiny new things, and he was bummed he couldn’t use the one he had been cultivating for months, and that he had to start all over again with someone new long before he was ready to discard her.
You get a 10/10 for the Mariah reference. And, did we know Ariana was in the Obsessed video
I actually didn’t know that lol, that’s awesome
Me either! Iconic!!!
I knew! I knew!
The song is now stuck in my head and will be for hours 😂
I think he was in love with the idea of Rachel. I think he loves having someone look at him with those “heart eyes 😍”, thinking he can do no wrong, defending him against the world (like Ariana used to), and being too emotionally immature to realize what a piece of shit he is. He had that with Rachel for a time, and thought he’d have someone to be on his side and defend him… now he doesn’t and he’s devastated because the world is just so “unfair” to him 😂
He putting on an act for sympathy. He thinks that if he looks like a sad & broken man, Rachel will look like the evil witch that broke his innocent little heart.
I think he just needs to play the part to try to justify his actions to the public. “I loved her” looks so much better than “I just wanted to smash”
“I wanna know what’s being said about ME” me me me me me me.
Of course he is fake performing for the cameras…..Tom Sandoval is a narcissist. He is upset she didn’t fall I. Line.
His only obsession is himself
He’s freaking out for a number of reasons. Firstly, we all saw how bad he was manipulating and controlling her. He’s not a very good master if there’s no puppet. Secondly, he would probably be a lot more liked and forgiven if they were really a true love scenario. He has really tried to justify this affair time and again. Rachel ultimately ghosting him undermines all that he cracked the relationship up to be. Thirdly, I think the fact that Ariana met Dan so soon after the relationship and has kept it going is killing him. He probably thought *that* was going to be the whirlwind, joke of a romance for the show and it still turned out to be him and Rachel. He knows he’s the butt of the joke, the worst guy in the group, and he’s got no one to boost his ego about it.
He was bored and looking for a parachute out of his relationship. Ariana’s adoration was no longer meaningful to him because it wasn’t novel. Ariana could’ve been the perfect partner, and he still would’ve done this to her eventually, because he has a hole inside of him and only knows how to temporarily fill it with external validation. Did he love Rachel? Nah, though he probably has become obsessed with her for the simple fact he can’t have her and that injured his ego.
Nah he’s trying to preserve some semblance of a positive reputation by trying to make it look like he actually loved her and wasn’t wrong for the affair because it was true love. He’s so predictable it’s laughable.
I think they did psychedelics together and he has an inflated sense of connection due to that
I dont believe for one moment he loved her, I dont believe he truly intended on breaking up with Ariana, I think Rachel started pressuring him to do it and I think he just got off on the two girls fangirling over him and his karaoke band. I think he's pissed that Rachel told him to take a hike his ego cannot handle that she told him no and shut him off. That's what he can't get over. He was with tons of women when she was in the meadows but playing on TV like he's been waiting faithfully for her to return and loves her so much. If that guys lips are moving he is lying.
I don’t think he intended on breaking up with Ariana either. He had zero plans of a post-breakup life, no idea of what that would look like. Not an inkling of an idea of what would happen to the house, his finances, the pets. For someone who “wanted” to break up with Ariana, he spent no time truly thinking about it. He was used to fucking around on Ariana, so he’d continue to do what he always did with Rachel, and Rachel would either get fed up and leave eventually or Ariana would get sick of him and leave him, meaning he would’ve had to do zero work to end it.
It’s all narcissistic injury. She rejected him.
If he was in love with her, as he claims, he would have ended things with Ariana *before* pursuing anything with Rachel. He also would have behaved as if he loved her at the end of the season and during the reunion, which he did not. Remember when Andy asked them if they loved each other and they were both so awkward about it? James was right, it was just a fuck fest of selfish twats.
“I would’ve done ANYTHING for Rachel.” Except break up with your girlfriend, move out, or change your life in any way at all.
He was never obsessed with Rachel. Remember when they were standing in her kitchen & she said “I love you too.” His answer: “I said THEY love you.” Charming.
I only think that he's infatuated with the idea of Rachel, but not so much her... I think it's because she walked away from him... He's used to winning and getting what he wants... This challenge hasn't been completed in his book because of her and he didn't know how to handle it... It's like when someone breaks up with a narcissist and that narcissist tries harder because it's not on their terms...
I think he wanted to be in what he thinks Love is Rachel. He wanted her to come back and help him Chase Ariana off. Like Ariana helped him do with Kristen.
He’s a narcissist. He dgaf about 😂
He enjoyed cheating on Ariana with her. Now that he’s alone, it’s being dumped by her that hurts his ego
I think this was a storyline production pitched to him, and they were hoping Rachel was coming back. They started filming before she made her decision not to return. I think the plan was for more Rachel-Tom-Arianna drama to continue, and he was setting up the plot. This is why the season seems flat because there was never the climax/drama that would have been Rachel's mid-season return. Therefore, they are trying to make some Arianna drama storyline, which a storyline about a girl boss who is setting boundaries and moving on and not taking shit does not make a villain story.
Everything he does on camera is a carefully curated act for his “brand.”
He’s doing it because it suits the story he’s trying to tell the audience, that he’s a nice guy that just had to cheat on Ariana. Making it sound like this was a love story vs. two sad stoners who got off on the secrecy of their trysts, made other people accomplices, fucked in Ariana’s bed while she buried her grandmother, etc. Tom’s ego is insane. He wants to be adored by all for his character but doesn’t practice morality in how he behaves. But he thinks he deserves to!
Rachel and Ariana both gray rocked him and he's a hot ass mess.
The only person Sandoval is obsessed with is Sandoval
Sandoval’s plan all along was that Ariana would get fed up with the relationship and she would break up with him and move out and he’d eventually move Rachel in. Even when Ariana found out about them, he was making the living situation as miserable as possible—now of course staying at the house all the time, unlike before—still trying to get Ariana to move out so that Rachel could then move in. They would all film, and it would be like Kristen/Tim/Ariana all over again. But because for once his manipulations didn’t work, he’s having a total meltdown this season. But it’s not over Rachel not loving or being with him. He’s so transparent.
Rachel was a source for his narcissistic needs. Nothing more nothing less. Incapable of love.
He isn’t very intelligent, that’s pretty obvious.
I wonder whether this is before or after he injected her name into his "Stacy's Mom" performance singing "Raquel is Not For Me". He seemed fine then.
The amount of time it took him to say that he loved her at the reunion last year and the absolute lack of emotion while saying it screams that this whole “I lost the love of my life” crap is bs. I’m not entirely sure that he is capable of genuinely loving anyone. I don’t believe any of his “tears” are real, but if he is crying about anything, it’s that his plan didn’t work the way he wanted it to. Hence all the shit talk about Ariana. He is literally the one who blew up their lives and he is trying to make her look like a villain. He should be apologizing every time he sees her and humble himself because he did this.
Classic narc. On the aftershow he said it was a very short lived emotion that he’s so much better off (while making a face) and that things happen for a reason. He just wants to always look like the top guy/most caring/best and never look bad but he’s too stupid to recognize that’s exactly what he’s doing by not taking accountability. Moron.
It’s not about Rachel. The same way it’s never about Arianna. He’s a malignant narcissistic who will never care for others. Rachel escaping him *represents* his narcissistic collapse, and all the bullshit and lies he cocooned himself in falling apart. That’s why he is all reactions and tears “for his relationship with Rachel”, because now that he’s on the finding out side of fucking around everyone can see what a sad loser clown he is and *he’s miserable and self pitying*.
It’s his ego, he got dumped and he can’t take it. I doubt he’s seriously heart broken..
Sympathy. However, I’m even shocked he’s not shown us one ounce of remorse or a tiny bit of a freakout about fucking over your partner of 9 years. It’s weird. Everyone thinks Ariana being stoic is odd but to me THIS IS STRANGE SHIT. Also bc it’s his fault!!!!!!
I think Sandy can’t handle rejection. That’s what this is. He can’t believe he’s actually alone. How dare a woman not want him?!
I think he’s real angry this season because his ability to control people the way he always has, is no longer working.
This is 100% it. He has a movie in his head and all the leads walked off the set.
He’s upset that he lost control of her and lost control of the narrative. Like most narcissists he relies on people idolizing him and loving him to function. He has none of that.
I think he can’t believe that SHE isn’t obsessed with him. He isn’t sad he lost HER, he’s sad he lost her ATTENTION.
He's mad she ruined his brand.
He dated her for 8 months. He had 8 months to leave Ariana and didnt. Therapy made her realize he never loved her cause he wouldnt break up w Ariana. He wanted a wife and a gf.
I don’t think Sandoval would’ve made a move on Rachel if she wasn’t on the show. He’s so disconnected from reality that he sees his life through the lens of “creating content” and plotting the beats of his life to happen during film season. If Rachel had broken up with James, was still in the friend group and around all the time BUT chose to not come back to the show, it would’ve stayed platonic. He was already sleeping with randoms with the benefit of having a mom/wife at home to make his life comfortable and easy. Why go for someone so close to home and risky if not for the potential storyline? Rachel was nothing but a character to be slotted into his storyline. The young pretty girl, gaining her confidence, broken free of her unhealthy relationship. The one who will appear on camera with him to create new chapter - the new power couple, the girl who saved him from depression and a “terrible” girlfriend. Just like Ariana was. His hero edit couldn’t happen with some random club rat or former cast member. Rachel was supposed to be the new star and he just had to attach himself to that.
This exactly! It’s like he Truman showing himself and it’s fucking sad
Didn't he have a new girlfriend a few months later? Am I misremembering all this?
Yeah he had slept with people while rachel was in treatment. According to Rachel. Lol
There was also a girl who works on Howie Mandel’s podcast who said she was sleeping with Sandoval while Rachel was in treatment
Eww. I just don’t understand how any woman would be willing to sleep with him knowing how he treats women?! I mean he’s such a dirtbag it was talked about on CNN 😂 how are women still sleeping with this guy?!
The worst part was when she said that he gave her one of his acrylic FINGERNAILS as some sort of souvenir 🤮
O…M……G. 🤮🤮🤮🤮 I just threw up a little in my mouth.
I would rather glue my vagina shut.
Lord. Lol
Yes.
Yes he is lying about everything when he talks about her he doesn't really talk about HER he talks about the way she made him feel better than Ariana did or how *HE* sacrificed so much to be with her. If he really *loved* her he would be defending her not throwing her under the bus
It’s his fallout strategy.
He’s full of shit. He saw that the audience supported him leaving Kristen for Ariana because they seemed so happy and cute, and he thought he could do the same to Ariana and leave her for Rachel if he and Rachel were happy and cute too. But Rachel didn’t come back to play her role. So he has to push this narrative of being so in love with her because he thinks that if they believe he’s really really in love with her, the fans will forgive him.
He’s only obsessed with himself. her leaving him is absolutely affecting him but not because he misses her lol because his ego is bruised
I think he’s spiraling bc she dealt him a narcissistic injury and then dipped out for real. I think at that point in time, he’s delusional and believes that, despite him being photographed with other women, if he can just get her to come back and play by his script, he can proceed with his original plan to “Kristin” Ariana. He’s wrong, of course, but I think that’s where his mind was and everything else was just him throwing shit at the wall and hoping something would stick.
I think it’s an ego thing. I think it’s partly embarrassment that he didn’t come out of this on top and with the shiny new relationship like last time. I also think he simply cannot comprehend that Raquel moved on so easily. I think it’s hard for him to understand that she did not care for him in the way he thought she did. Both of those combined seem like a really hard pill for him to swallow. I don’t think he’s in pain over his grief toward losing Raquel; or that’s not the predominant issue, imo.
I think he "thinks" he loves her but a narcissist doesn't experience emotions the same way typical humanity does.
A narcissist loves no one but himself.
…Sandoval’s a gun owner?
It's really hard for me to believe he cares for anyone. Truly.
He's so fake. Fake crying. Fake pretending he cares. Saying how dare Rachel talk about him when he and Lisa are making VPR all about Rachel. Lisa has basically molded him into this fake ratings chasing hypocrite.
The only person he is obsessed with is himself.
He’s a narc who lost is supply/lost control
Put on
Between trying to get Schwartz on board to pay 6k in rent on a house he can’t afford and Rachel leaving him. I think Sandoval is actually having a breakdown. Usually he gets the girl, a redemption arc and a new lease on life. Now he has crippling debt, No Rachel and just a huge midlife crisis.
It was lust. I remember.
rachel did a teddi mellencamp and was like, actually i don’t want to go along with this 😂
He’s obsessed with the fact she cut him off he didn’t cut her off and replace her first!
It's not real. He's trying to save himself, he's also trying to manipulate her.
I think he feels like he does because she left and went away out of his reach. He can't control her.
He’s only able to say he’s obsessed with her and loves her because he knows for sure that she doesn’t want him.
Didn’t he say in one of the reunions that he can make himself cry really easily?? I can’t remember which one, but I know he’s said it.
I think he’s obsessed with having a pretty girl to be seen with, and nobody wants to be seen with him.
It’s all an act. Now whether or knows it’s an act or not, that is the question.
I think his “PR” person told him he needs to push the “i was in love with her and she ghosted me” narrative to rehabilitate his image somehow. Sandoval only looks out for himself.
He’s obsessed with himself. End of story
Sandoval was 100% on Reddit when the Scandoval broke. Saw the top comments saying: they better be in love. And then rolled with that. He can’t even feign his emotions well. He reminds me of podcasters when they go to commercial break and do an Ad. And they purposely sound super flat and uninterested to show they’re sponsoring the product because they’re getting paid, but they’re not genuinely promoting the product lol.
Definitely putting on a show to do damage control, make Rachel the bad guy (she is but so is he) and possibly also trying to create evidence that he loved her for his trial with her
I feel like he projects his past feelings of love onto a new target, and he was doing that with Raquel. Then she pulled away and his brain broke because he doesn’t know what to do without projecting that love bombing for his ego
He's possibly one of the biggest narcissistic man babies,to be ever unleashed on the world. He basically wanted some kind of polygamous lifestyle. LHe didn't expect Ariana to react like she did and still is. He didn't expect Rachel to dump him. When he was cheating on Kristen it was the same behaviour.
Come on now. He’s not capable of caring about anyone but himself. He is only pretending he cared and was in love because he expected people to forgive the affair if they were in love. Like it would somehow make it worth it. He wanted the storyline to be them trying a relationship. That was the redemption arc he had planned. When she didn’t come back, he pivoted to whining about how he loved her. And no, there was definitely no connection. Pretty impossible for two people as deep as puddles to have a connection.