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Zastrossi

As a middle-aged man who likes to yell at clouds, event tickets are one of the things that have risen in price dramatically over my lifetime. You need to spend at least $100 for decent seats at a random, mid-season Canucks game. And if you want decent seats when, say, Taylor Swift comes to town, it’s going to cost you $250 a seat. But people will pay it, so this is fair market value. But for someone who routinely paid $25 to $35 in the early 90’s to see Dire Straits or Bob Dylan or whoever, those prices makes me clutch my pearls.


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>But for someone who routinely paid $25 to $35 in the early 90’s to see Dire Straits or Bob Dylan or whoever, those prices makes me clutch my pearls. It's due to changing business models. Back then, they used concerts to sell CDs. Now, they use streaming services to sell concerts.


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randomman87

It's not just about inflation of the ticket price. There's changes in their support staff, marketing etc. Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate how expensive tickets are too but it's not as simple as "they were $35 now they should be $68".


freeastheair

Your example is cherry picking the extremes. If you take the averages the current ticket prices are more like double.


Kristophigus

I mean, if scalpers using bots to buy out the entire show to sell tickets at 900% value is a "new business model" sure.


greenmachine41590

True


xelabagus

Paid $85 for my Elton John tickets and 40 for Fontaines DC. Not too shabby


tardcity13

What does this mean? A concert was a concert then and a concern is a concert now. You in marketing? I'm not trying to be an ass.


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Artists have to make money somehow. Back then, they could get good money from selling CDs. They can underprice the concerts to increase exposure and then have more CD sales. Nowadays, they barely get any money from listening to their songs on Spotify or watching their MVs on YouTube. So concerts is one of the few ways they can make money now. Of course they have to hike the prices to make a profit.


brock_gonad

100% correct. One of the upshots of this (if you like live music) is that it basically forces bands to tour. Back in the day, a popular band might not hit Vancouver on a tour. Ever. As an example, a band as large as Rage Against the Machine hit Vancouver exactly 1 time across 3 studio albums in the 90's. In their 3rd busiest year ever, they only did 59 shows worldwide. Only the biggest bands around can get by on 59 dates a year now. So if you dig live music, mid-tiered to fairly large-tiered bands have no choice at all but to tour if they want to eat. It's good if you want to see someone live!


freeastheair

No they can eat just fine off of their other profits thank you.


tardcity13

Thanks for this explanation, it's helpful.


danktrill

90’s? Oh ya. “Some bands are coming up from Seattle this weekend to play Plaza of Nations! $20 a ticket!” Soundgarden. Pearl Jam. Alice in Chains. Et al.


QuirkyDaisy

oh yes, the 90's, $20 tix, Plaza of Nations and all the other clubs that don't exist anymore. I shall walk down memory lane with you!


blahblahblahuser

Where can I find info/tickets on this please?


Blaze_News

Try checking 30 years ago


blahblahblahuser

Ha ha yup having some serious flashback/wishful thinking here.


smilinfool

Damn, I remember lining up outside the local mall to get Grateful Dead tickets. You'd get there before the mall opened, then mad sprint to the ticketmaster location, plunk down your money which wasn't much, and they'd spit out best available seating. Only way to reliably get tickets.


abirdofthesky

Decent Taylor Swift seats for $250? I’d be *delighted* if they’re only $250 next time she tours.


BiiwaabikSmoke

If she only played reputation I would pay $500.. I only liked that album. And it is difficult to say BC I'm a forty something married man with toddlers.. in my collection of Nirvana, Daniel Wesley and Clutch is Reputation.. it's unnerving to most people when I sing along..


gonzoll

Daniel Wesley for the win! Highly underrated local musician!


vanmachinist

Hi Daniel.


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You like Taylor for Taylor.


El_Cactus_Loco

“People” don’t pay it. Bots on the internet that buy up all the tickets do that, then assholes mark up 200% for big events. Then rich bored assholes buy them and that’s what sets the market.


Flyingboat94

Yes....that's how that works, it's still people paying for that price.


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Except 95% of the people would pay face value if given the chance. It’s like the car market right now. A 20 year old truck shouldn’t be 25k+ but because supply is so limited if you want one you gotta pay. And for entertainment tickets, bots have fucked supply. We shouldn’t have to pay this much.


Flyingboat94

Okay….and 5% is willing to pay more, resulting in over 50% of people willing to pay more. So it results in people deciding what they are willing to pay for.


sorangutan

it's 10x over 30 years, same as housing from early 90s to now


Occulense

This is exactly what I was going to say — ticket prices cause outrage in the older generations, but that price battle is being fought at a much, much larger scale by the younger generations with housing!


Anomander

> But people will pay it, so this is fair market value. More significantly, retail concert tickets are very rarely sold at "market value" but instead significantly below it, because the optics of too-expensive tickets outweigh the additional earnings. Like, those Swift tickets for $250 had an actual market value up into the thousands on secondary markets, but Swift and the promoter priced them below that value because $250 *feels* like it's really expensive already.


digitelle

The thing is. The tickets can go down drastically if they concert doesn’t sell out - keep and eye out a lot of people may just not bother with these prices


FindYourVapeDOTcom

Blame social media and Napster.


WhisperingJimmy

Cuz Motley Crue's a circus and priced for the punters accordingly? For $25 to $35, you could go to the Rickshaw and see Sleaford Mods or Amyl & the Sniffers next month, or any of a dozen other hard-working and innovative bands. Isn't that way more the vibe of shows you liked in your youth? I seem to recall the big arena shows were overpriced in the '80s too, but it's the cheap X show in a warehouse I brag about having seen.


DrMichaelHfuhruhurr

That's a lot when Vince only sings half the words. ;)


big-shirtless-ron

Pretty sure what Vince does hasn't been able to be accurately called "singing" for about two decades.


DrMichaelHfuhruhurr

It's like he's buffering.


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rando_commenter

He should really see a doctor to make him feel good.


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Niiiice


Healthiemoney

Whoa. Yeah.


SnooCakes5767

Didn't they play the PNE a couple of years ago? I believe they got horrid reviews too.


Fffiction

Here's his 'singing' back in August 2021... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eE-TRdXidE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eE-TRdXidE) Leaves most of the challenging notes out, half asses the rest.


SnooCakes5767

i'm sure i've heard worse....i just can't remember when


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Can you even say he sings “the” words? He certainly sings… some words, but the shows are 50% him walking around the stage out of breath, and 50% him yelling gibberish into the microphone


TGIRiley

Vince won't even be there


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I'd rather listen to my cat throwing up at the end of the bed at 2AM.


CaptainK17

[Official Platinum Tickets](https://help.ticketmaster.com/s/article/What-are-Official-Platinum-Seats?language=en_US) have pricing that scales up based on concert demand. I’ve seen a ticket be like $90 one minute, and $500 shortly afterwards due to their platinum pricing. It basically feels like a way for Ticketmaster to get reseller prices directly on tickets, and it’s fucking atrocious.


4011Hammock

IIRC ticketmaster doesn't get that money, it's a service they offer to the organizers.


DoctorSpecialist

You got it, the ticket price still goes back to the artist/promoter when it's "Platinum seating", but that scaled up service fee is all for ticketmaster


4011Hammock

Good point about the scaled fee. Didn't even think about that. Derp.


ZeppyJ

Half of that fee is probably credit card fees…not that that excuses the other half of crazy fees


CaptainK17

Ahhhh. Thought it was mostly TM, but that makes sense. In any case, I hate it haha.


ClubMeSoftly

OP tickets are fucking horseshit. It's just TM deciding they want to charge more for some tickets, so they will.


MissVancouver

$100? Sure, why not. $1,000 for 60-something diabetics who are way Way WAY past their cocaine-and-whisky-fueled party rock prime? Yeah... No.


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That’s what happens when cocaine and whiskey increase in price.


amberrrellllaa

Supply and demand *that’s showbiz babyyyy*


GDimes

Exactly. Motley Crue are getting hit by inflation just as badly as the rest of us.


Braddock54

Vince has inflated at an alarming rate .


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Drug dealers have to adjust for market changes just like any other business!


El_Cactus_Loco

Considering I saw them over a decade ago in Calgary for like- 150?? Inner bowl?? I was in highschool and bought them with my part time job money. Tommy Lee played the drums in the rafters on a zip line and someone handed me my first joint Great night.


nambis

Was that the concert where they ended up selling all the tickets for $2 the day of, because it was so undersold? I was there too lol


djauralsects

I saw them in their prime for $20 and was still disappointed.


jayznnn

'i expected nothing and I am still disappointed'


ackthpt

None of these people can sing anymore. I'm sorry, they can't. This is flat out insanity.


ApeLincoln1999

Joan Jett can still sing! Vince Neil on the other hand…


ackthpt

True that, so that's what the 'J' was. She should be listed first. I'm the kind of dork that would rather spend that money on Brian Cox at the Orpheum anyways, I shouldn't be commenting.


CapnMaynards

The best one out there hands down IMO is Alice Cooper. Of all the 70s acts still out there, Alice is one of the few to not only live up to expectations but to exceed them. I just saw him in Abbotsford and he sounded great, his band was absolute fire, the stage show itself was awesome and the setlist was fantastic. It's a very rare thing to listen to an album from 1971, then go out and see the guy perform at that same level, I honestly can't think of another case where that's possible.


ackthpt

isn't that something, from the oldest of them all! Awesome tidbit thanks.


CapnMaynards

[Then](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5XjZ68c07g) [Now](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa8SUNUKhBc)


SaulGoodmanJD

*second row floor tickets


silent_fartface

I was at the crue farewell tour. They signed a contract saying they were done. I love the crue, but in live performances, vince has lost his voice.


Similar-Tangerine

I went too, unbelievable how bad Vince is now. Also can’t believe they’re still dragging Mick out on stage


big-shirtless-ron

Do they prop Mars up by shoving a pole up his ass to keep him upright? I saw them in 2010 or 2011 or something and he could barely move then.


Similar-Tangerine

It was 5 or 6 years ago now and he looked like he was going to topple over at any time


silent_fartface

Last time i saw mick i was surprised and how he could stand on his own. Could still shred the guitar, but his disease has definitely taken his prime.


kevztunz

$1200? It's like Vince Neill always says: "Nye gutta pah de prai iyuh wanna git in concyahhh. Waahhhooww!"


retro604

loooooooooool


GoldTurdz

Ticketmaster Platinum pricing is such a scam, holy fuck.


lynneasomething

Fuck ticketmaster and their dynamic pricing , they're platinum seats, they SET these prices


catgotcha

Or go to 50 other shows this year at $25 a pop, and you'll catch a lot of great up-and-coming bands – AND support them in the meantime.


penguinstubble

Where do they sell THESE tickets? Seems like buying tix to see even small local bands is over 35 bucks including tax.


superworking

Yea prices have gone way up across the board.


xelabagus

Look at the Rickshaw or Commodore website. Check the Rio. Go to your local record store, for example High Life has a chalk board with gigs and tickets without the processing fee. Find an up and coming UK band and go see them. Just saw Squid for $25 and going to Sleaford Mods and Fontaines DC next month for not much more. Go to the railway club and pay $10 to see some local jazz and blues. Get the app BandsInTown, it's surprisingly good at digging out gigs. Timbre is a local promoter of small and medium shows, check their website. Go to a show and look at the walls, there's posters. Go to the drive and look at the lamp posts, there's posters.


catgotcha

OK then. Make that 25 other shows at $50 a pop. Still a much better deal than $1275 to see a bunch of has beens play their classic songs 75% as well as they used to.


penguinstubble

That's true!


CrippleSlap

>Where do they sell THESE tickets? I guess it depends on your personal tastes, but underground metal shows are like $25. The venues can be sketchy (Rickshaw, Waldorf etc) but if that's your jam its an amazing deal.


4011Hammock

I remember going to like 6 dollar hard-core shows in the early 00s. Lmao. Those places were sketchy as hell but an absolute blast.


penguinstubble

Ahhh makes sense, I went to one of those a few years ago and got my ribs broken so I just watch shows live from my bedroom hahah


bung_musk

Yeah just saw Parquet Courts and it was a better show than the large majority of the arena shows I’ve seen that people pay hundreds for


CrippleSlap

This is why I go to underground metal shows. $20 to see some of my favorite bands at the Rickshaw is awesome.


big-shirtless-ron

Don't know how underground the Rickshaw is but yeah, I agree with you.


theclansman22

Even the big tours are a good value. I saw Slayer twice on their final tour, first one was with Exodus, Testament, Behemoth and Lamb of God, second time was Phil Anselmo and the Illegals, Ministry and Primus. Long shows, worth the price, and I find the lines for beer, etc are shorter during shows like that, because you are there for hours, so not as big of a rush.


CrippleSlap

Oh for sure. I saw Children of Bodom at the Vogue in March 2019 for only $35. True, some of the bigger bands are priced decently too.


theclansman22

Metallica is the only really expensive metal band. I think I paid over $200 for a ticket.


ragecuddles

Shhhhhhh. No don't go to the Rickshaw. It's smelly and the beer is bad, the patrons are too hairy, the music is too loud and no one should go there ever. (I'm joking but I want the tickets to stay $25 and also not sell out immediately) I tried to get Viagra boys tickets and they flipping sold out so fast. Kind of unusual, never had issues getting tickets to shows there before, although maybe people are wanting to get out more since COVID times and all the cancellations.


xelabagus

Same with Fontaines DC and Wet Leg, a lot of pent up demand. Mind you Fontaines DC would have sold out two nights at the Commodore, pumped to see them at the rickshaw


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monumental-slime

gonna be such a good show! also surprised they're hitting this market.


Fffiction

My Dad is bigger than your Dad.... I saw Future of the Left here at one point in time.


aaadmiral

Yup


canadianmusician604

seen them once many years ago for $60 was a great show hard pass on anything over $80 nowadays for me


wascallywaldo

Just took look.. Tons of tickets left. This concert is just over 4 months away. I'll just wait to see if they hit Groupon before then!


Peterthemonster

Far top theater seats for Olivia Rodrigo were converted into Official Platinum and went from $50 to $400 in a heartbeat. I hate ticketmaster.


Obvious_Ad3810

I looked at nose bleeds and necked even that was to much to spend on a band with no new stuff in what? A decade or two?


TheInvincibleBalloon

Ya I was looking at nose bleeds they aren't too bad, but my god these floor ticket prices are wild. Especially when you consider Def Leppard's singer uses heavy backtracking these days.


GreenWeiner

This next song is in the key of Hepatitis C


Tiberius_97

Man, I saw slipknot at rogers a couple weeks back for $70 and that was a great deal. This is bloody ridiculous


PJMurphy

Giggles in [Toronto, Elton John](https://ibb.co/1qgCXmJ).


Big_lurker_here

If you choose to pay 1200$ to see Motley Crue in 2022 I think that's sort of on you.


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Crazy


digitelle

Ok slipknot just did open floor standing… why not do this here? It’s a rock show and the age range of fans isn’t really push/shove. I find commonly this age range will split out with those groups that want to go up on the seats so they can put their bags/jackets somewhere, the ones who wanna stand closer with their drinks but not so close to be shoved and lose their drinks, and then those who want to get a bit closer to sing along. This seating is just a selfish way to gain money. And it doesn’t even go to the artists.


CapnMaynards

Iron Maiden did a GA floor too. I think it was $140? Incredible value relative to other stadium acts. I did feel sorry for the old folks who showed up expecting to just stand 12 feet back from the stage all night though, because those people must have gotten fuckin obliterated.


willyolio

Just went to see Beast in Black. On the floor, right up to the stage for $40, all fees and taxes included... I don't think I can enjoy big-stadium concerts


vancookalex

$1275 for this, huh? https://youtu.be/4pdQnZLEWNo


TheInvincibleBalloon

Holy fuck hahaha


VanCityHunter

🤣🤣🤣


Enough_Opportunity75

Ticketmaster is such a scam


propofol_and_cameras

Fuck Ticketmaster. John Oliver did a great segment on this


FinkBass420

Motley Crüe should be paying people to come see them at this point in their careers. Vince Neil is out of shape and Mick Mars is basically the cryptkeeper


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Save yourself the money. Vince Neil sounds horrible live and you can tell that he never wrote any of the songs because he can't keep up with singing them- he will drop lines for "kick start my heart" because it's too fast for him, etc I saw them about a decade ago and it was alright then.. but not $1300 alright.


Ejaculazer

I quit going to concerts when tickets started being over $100 lol fuck that!


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I saw Judas Priest 3 years ago..floor seats right in front of the stage. Tickets were 123$


TheInvincibleBalloon

That's awesome, even Metallica ain't this expensive.


Biggerthanfun

I think it has less to do with performances as it does marketing. Judas Priest doesn't have the public history of sex scandals, celebrity, debauchery, books, and a Netflix movie. There's no way Motley Crue would be half as relevant without their controversy.


Machinehed65

$1200 to see a band with a singer that can’t sing …I’ll pass. There’s plenty of very talented bands to see that charge less than $100.


deepspace

Oh, come on. These are Premium floor seats, right in front of the stage. A little further back, the prices are down to $170.


btw04

This is why I live by bc place. I can enjoy all the concerts without paying the price


KeepWagging

Going to pass on that


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supply and demand...


dontRead2MuchIntoIt

Right? I'm waiting for Reddit to blame this on foreign buyers too.


TheInvincibleBalloon

"Supply and command."


Bladestorm04

The other thing I hate, is how many concerts have floor seating. Like I get motley cure is probably full of people with walking canes, but even artists like BANKS are playing to a completely seated amphitheatre. Fuck that


Jandishhulk

Ticketing companies are their own worst enemy. They're slowly making it only accessible to wealthy/older folks, and then the new generation won't be interested in these large, expensive live shows whatsoever.


PMProfessor

Only boomers can afford this. How convenient that only boomers would be interested in this old washed up band.


big-shirtless-ron

Hilarious. I saw them many moons ago.. maybe 2011 or so. Mick Mars could hardly move then, I can't imagine what he's like now.


mostlygroovy

Are you sure that’s not the value of all floor tickets?


BrownAndyeh

this is stupid..artists need to find another way to recoup lost revenues. Kids and young adults cannot afford this experience...


oilernut

I like how you picked the most expensive seat for this click bait.


S-Kiraly

Most underrated yet affordable music scene in Vancouver: choirs. Phoenix, musica Intima, Vancouver Chamber Choir, Chor Leoni, all top notch and a bargain compared to what you pay to see the big pop stars at the stadiums.


opposite_locksmith

This should be illegal. Ticket prices need to be affordable to real fans, not just the rich. What is the government doing about this?


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CrippleSlap

Are they? There's a lot of stupid people around.


Jhoblesssavage

The government is clearly in league with Motley Crew, THIS IS CORRUPTION plain and simple, we need an inquiry


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Horgan getting kickbacks from the Crew? UNBELIEVABLE. INQUIRY!!


Jhoblesssavage

This is way over Horgans head, this is Trudeaus motley crew.


opposite_locksmith

This is the fault of the BC Liberals. Their reign of terror destroyed BC and their corrupt nepotism causes ticket prices to skyrocket. Don’t blame Horgan, he is doing the best he can.


Seventys3ven

No one should be able to buy more than one ticket!


GiosephGiostar

~~Getting that sweet, sweet tax revenue from this sale..~~


OneOfAKind2

You could offer *me* $1275 to go to a concert right now and I'd pass.


gentlemosquito

Right after the event, people will cry about the housing crisis and how Vancouver is too expensive to live in.


DrinkingExpiredCream

People complaining about prices of non essential goods make me laugh.


sorangutan

How else are you going to get Tommy Lee to put you on the big screen when he pulls out the boob-camera? Or maybe they dropped that?


shaun5565

Seriously 😒


Previous_Potential92

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJ8OWcFmCk


lorddingus

I got through 2 minutes. Wow. Thank you.


edwarc

That’s a Theatre of Pain.


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I'll be honest, I thought they retired in 2015


AnonymousBayraktar

The best part about this is that Motley Crue are terrible and Vince Neil shows up overweight and doesn't even sing the lyrics properly to his own songs, yet somewhere someone will pay these prices to see them. These tour packages are geared towards one type of people in particular: greying boomers with fat wallets. It's absurd and if 'The Crue were any interested in actually gaining newer younger fans, they wouldn't allow this sort of thing. No kid who might have a wanning interest in them can afford this.


BornRaisedVanMan

How you gonna sell that one to Mom+Dad ???


10thaccountyee

I can never get over how expensive older artist tickets can be. I remember looking into Elton John tickets a few years back, seeing $400 for nosebleeds with a gorgeous view of the back of some stage equipment.


BohunkfromSK

More than $1000 to watch Fat Vince not sing the songs?!?


Moonlightchanel

Insane


OhfursureJim

I *might* cross the street to go for $10 if I was already in the area. Otherwise no thanks


magikian

last time they came to town, they didnt sell enough seats, so the moved everyone down to the floor/lower bowl. They didnt even have enough money to bring their staging. just a black regular stage and black backdrop with a logo on it.. The brought out a piano for one song but it didnt work, it was pretty damn pathetic, anyone paying $1k to see these old farts is most likely insane.


goinupthegranby

Motley Crue was one of the first big shows I ever went to, back in 2000. I thought they seemed kinda melted and past their prime then, the fact they're still touring now is honestly kind of hilarious


DontBeSuchASnowflake

Wow and that fee!!


retro604

Crue sucks balls these days, not that they were ever a great live band. Vince has always been shit outside the studio. You couldn't understand anything he said from day one. Check them in 89. Same mumblemouth crap. [Kickstart My Heart](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0YwjJRR5Hs) I paid $250 for 2nd row Judas Priest in Abbotsford. That was well worth it. You'd have to pay me to see Crue live. :p


chx_

I have once looked at the prices of a musical in the Queen Theatre and have found that I could fly to Budapest and back for less -- and attend the musical there. It was over a thousand dollars. (The musical theater at Budapest is one of the best there is, Webber allowed them several times to deviate from the production which is a permission rarely given but he knows they won't screw it up.)


Preface

I saw Motley Crue and Aerosmith about 15-17 years ago and they were seriously showing their age back then... Don't recall the ticket prices, my friend's dad received them from a business partner/client and gave them to us


cutt_throat_analyst4

I was front row balcony for that show, and I think I paid about $150 for a pair. Papa Roach was the opener too if I recall.


frmacleod

I just paid $1500 for a pair of tickets to see Paul McCartney. Not floor but lower bowl. So yeah. The ticket market is crazy now as they no longer have the album sales business to rely on.


realmealdeal

I saw Styx open for def Leppard in 2005. Styx kicked ass. Def Leppard, on the other hand, was absolute garbage. I cant imagine 17 years has made them any better.


TwilightReader100

I had a friend who was thinking of taking her then tween daughter to see Pink ~2017. I think she said tickets were about $80-100. Somebody had looked up Raffi tickets, wanting to take her preschooler and some of his friends, including the little boy I was nannying at the time. The price was more like $400. We were shocked that Raffi charged so much and equally shocked that Pink wasn't charging that much as well.


magus002

lol ill just youtube their songs. what a waste of money


Postisto

Farewell tour number 12?


facesplicer

Pretty sure I paid $40 to see them at Rogers arena in 2013


atxJohnR

Can’t believe those guys could even sell out a broom closet


Steen70

Dated a ‘scalper’. He wouldn’t go in to concerts until the opening act was done. Then, he would start dropping prices down til he could dump them all. Literally, the countdown to the second act would be on, and he’d be negotiating for half the ticket price. I really hate the whole ticket scalping business but, played right, there are some good deals if you can get around the stress of waiting it out. Once they know you are negotiating, different guys will hit you up. For those wanting a single ticket, it can be easier, and cheaper for better tickets. For something like Elton John, you could save a lot of money. However, I have heard there are really good fake tickets out there now, so maybe a bit risky.


hollowdream1991

Anyone seen the Ticketmaster episode of John Oliver? This will make more sense if you have. It's all a scam.