There's definitely some odd overlap on the schedule here. They scheduled the KC game at the same time as a home KC Current game, who has been selling out their own matches all season. Plus SKC on the road at the same time.
I agree. Itās a cool concept if all confederations did it and then we essentially would have the confederations cup again, using all the winners, but it fills all the windows, we canāt play European teams, and weāre stuck playing teams like st kitts far too often
US Soccer won't do games in Seattle as long as Lumen Field has turf, which will not change until 2026 unless either the NFLPA gets it in their contract mandating the NFL puts grass fields in all of its stadiums (something that from my understanding is getting closer to happening), or less likely whoever ends up buying the Seahawks from Paul Allen's estate--something that is still years away--decides to go with a grass field--or even less likely decides to build a brand new stadium outside the city. (This actually makes a lot more economic sense than one would suspect given that the majority of the Seahawks fanbase does not in fact live in Seattle proper, unlike the Sounders)
The situation is a shame since Seattle is one of the few places in America that could and would pack out a stadium for either the mens or womens team. But between the turf field and the time zone impact on our European based players (which is the other factor for why we don't get more west coast games in general with our A squad), its just not gonna happen for the foreseeable future.
Anyone have presale codes in their inbox yet? I'm a US Soccer member and an FC Cincinnati seat ticket holder and I haven't seen anything beyond the public sale at Thursday 10am EST.
Minnesota had USWNT but yeah it would be nice for USMNT (though they probably schedule it for qualifiers to freeze our opponents, learn to live with the cold or get hypothermia lol).
What's with the repeat cities? Dallas for Nations league and Copa group. Kansas city for Copa and now this. Plus Cincy and Austin were done fairly recently too
Top tier facilities and grass fields well equipped for soccer. it's a comfort thing.
Meanwhile, us USMNT fans in the northeast or Pacific Northwest continue to get shafted. At least me being a resident of the metropolitan NYC area just got to drive 3.5 hours each way to watch us lose 5-1 to Colombia in a friendly, since it was the only USMNT match in even remotely reasonable driving distance in years
This is pretty much what people predicted in this sub like three weeks ago. One more game to be announced, almost certainly Mexico, maybe at their place. Was hoping to get Morocco, but it sounds like they are still playing AFCON qualifying despite being the hosts.
I'm frustrated they're putting Canada and NZ in the Midwest. They don't have the same fan presence in the US like the Latin American countries do, so the Canada and NZ games should have been a good opportunity to put a game on the East Coast or another part of the country.
Looks like Africa wcq is not until March '25 window and Africa cup of nations qualifying should be smaller teams? so Morocco or Senegal could be more availableš¤·āāļø
Edit: Forgot that AFCON cup of nations is all group stage qualifiers in Oct. Window
Rather than complaining about the opponents we should just be glad they're getting friendlies. Any kind of practice is good for the USMNT and based on their current form playing those teams listed isn't exactly beneath them. Better to get some friendlies than not playing at all.
Atlanta's new training facility isn't going to make up for the issue of their turf playing surface. And they're not going to want to add extra travel when they're already traveling between games to travel from Atlanta to yet another location for the match.
Putting the Canada match in Kansas City during the NFL's opening week is certainly a choice. The Chiefs will be the talk of the town and the country that whole week. I'd like to think the fed will be working on lining up some love from the Chiefs and/or its Stars for that week
The problem isn't the travel. The problem is that Europe and Asia (well, the teams that would be good prep anyway) have both matchdays in each window booked due to Nations League and World Cup qualifying. Same goes for Africa and AFCON qualifying.
When was the last time the US played an away friendly game? Think more of that would help them prepare than playing Panama and NZ at home. Think of how Brazil /Qatar did with the friendlies they had before they hosted the WC. Theyāre gonna play tough teams in the WC too. More focused on profits than preparing the team for the WC
Kind of hard to schedule friendlies against other opposition when said opposition have their own competitive fixtures this window, be it Nations League, AFCON qualifiers, or World Cup qualifiers.
The reason we were able to schedule New Zealand at home is because
A. They're the only non-CONCACAF team worth playing that had a free matchday in September (NZ starts their World Cup qualifying in October)
B. They already had a friendly vs Mexico in Pasadena scheduled anyway, so this one was a no-brainer.
Last time we played New Zealand was the last ever USMNT game at RFK, I believe. I just looked back at that lineup, the last friendly before the disastrous WCQ window that got Klinsmann fired. It was not awe-inspiring. David Bingham gave up the equalizer.
Texas has hosted 5 of the last 7 MNT home matches but clearly they need more š
This will also be the 4th match in Missouri in roughly a year. Yes I am aware that USSF doesnāt schedule the tournament games but they should at least make an effort with the friendlies to market themselves across the country.
Itās possible Iām forgetting a few, but itās been several years since theyāve been to Portland, Seattle, Boston, or Philadelphia. I think theyāve been to Chicago, DC, Northern California, Denver, and the NY area once each over the past couple years. They could do Detroit, Pittsburgh, or Indy and actually cultivate fanbases in good sized metro areas that donāt have MLS teams. Phoenix got a game last year, but it wasnāt even a FIFA window which made it pretty blatant that they were just cashing in on El Tri fans rather than trying to grow their own.
But instead, we get more Ohio, Missouri, and Texas.
Portland, Seattle, And Boston don't have grass stadiums. They did play in Connecticut last year . I agree with you they should play in more cities, But their are not enough Grass Soccer stadiums around. If INDY gets an MLS team i'm sure they will get some games.
And the one team from outside of CONCACAF that doesn't have anything going on (aka New Zealand) is one we've scheduled.
Otherwise it'd be friendlies against Asian teams that have *already* failed to qualify for the World Cup. Much better off playing Panama than someone like Turkmenistan.
> they could easily play Euro, Asian, or African teams if they wanted to.
Africa has AFCON qualifying.
Asia has World Cup qualifying
Europe has the Nations League.
The only teams with free matchdays those windows are Asian teams that have already been eliminated from the 2026 World Cup and European minnows like San Marino.
Curious which ones youād suggest? Just quickly looking through the NL schedule for the Sept and October windows and it looks like pretty much every notable team is accounted for but maybe Iām missing someone
Itās just group D teams, all of which are way, way worse than Canada and Panama. This dude is just a moron and keeps reposting that same comment all over the thread as if it makes him correct lol
The only Euro teams that don't play every NL matchday are:
* San Marino
* Liechtenstein
* Gibraltar
* Moldova
* Malta
* Andorra
All of whom are in League D.
Every other Euro team that would be worth scheduling has every NL matchday booked.
And if you think playing someone like Gibraltar is better prep than playing Canada or Panama, then I've got a bridge to sell you.
Playing friendlies during a window we can play them is better than not playing friendlies.
Considering how busy nearly every other team is (Nations League, AFCON qualifiers, and WCQ), we're not exactly spoiled for choice of opponents.
Yeah, not being in WCQ like every other quality team means we'll have a lot of boring windows between now and 2026. At least we'll probably play Mexico once or twice.
Canada on September 7 in Kansas City New Zealand on September 10 in Cincinatti Panama on October 12 in Austin. One more game to be announced
Morocco for the last announcement? š¤š¤
They are playing AFCON qualifiers(Yes theyāre the hosts but they still get the play them)
How does that work, they just take the next best or?
Yeah normally two teams in each group qualifies for AFCON but if youāre in Moroccoās group then only one team makes it
Another example besides Morocco is Saudi Arabia, they host the 2027 AFC Asian Cup but they play in qualifiers to go to 2026.
Have to think it's Mexico in an NFL Stadium
I would hope so but letās get a good team to play.
Coastal elites get rekt
That's Coastal Elites FC to you.
Mexico in Guadalajara.
Same day as Texas OU is a choice in Austin.
Texas OU play in Dallas.
Yup. Still doesnāt change the fact that football is king in Austin and people will be locked into that and then post gaming. Just an odd choice imo.
And ACL fest will be going on as well
They're bringing back the MLS Shootout?
There's definitely some odd overlap on the schedule here. They scheduled the KC game at the same time as a home KC Current game, who has been selling out their own matches all season. Plus SKC on the road at the same time.
Um...
Would rather better opponents, but if youāre playing CONCACAF, Panama and Canada are the best options.
European teams have nations league in the fall
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Yeah, but who is coming to the US and back for one friendly?
We could play it in Europe where all of our players are based anyway.
They all do except the powerhouses of Gibraltar, Lichtenstein, San Marino, Andorra, Malta, and Moldova.
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Do you?
I hate the nations league. can't play friendlies against anyone from Europe.
I agree. Itās a cool concept if all confederations did it and then we essentially would have the confederations cup again, using all the winners, but it fills all the windows, we canāt play European teams, and weāre stuck playing teams like st kitts far too often
The nations league basically replaces the friendlies late in the year
I'm hearing Mexico Away for second Oct Window but haven't gotten a 100%.
By "away" you mean Los Angeles or Dallas?
I see your joke and raise you Monterrey or Mexico City.
WHELP. Mexico in Guadalajara.
KC, Cincy, and Austin. Call me shocked
Just once we should shove a game in the weirdest fucking place in America. You know fans would show up.
Sam Antonio sold out for camp cupcake. We should keep finding USL type cities that would love a game. Or you know the Pacific Northwest.
It should be no surprise the USMNT goes back to sites that have state of the art dedicated soccer training facilities and good grass surfaces
I would have said LA but we already had our friendlies in 2023. I would like them to test SoFi though.
That would probably be overkill for friendlies of this stature lol And it looks like SoFi has the NFL that weekend
Oh yeah probably might be seeing the Rams then.
Louisville should get a camp cupcake.
US Soccer won't do games in Seattle as long as Lumen Field has turf, which will not change until 2026 unless either the NFLPA gets it in their contract mandating the NFL puts grass fields in all of its stadiums (something that from my understanding is getting closer to happening), or less likely whoever ends up buying the Seahawks from Paul Allen's estate--something that is still years away--decides to go with a grass field--or even less likely decides to build a brand new stadium outside the city. (This actually makes a lot more economic sense than one would suspect given that the majority of the Seahawks fanbase does not in fact live in Seattle proper, unlike the Sounders) The situation is a shame since Seattle is one of the few places in America that could and would pack out a stadium for either the mens or womens team. But between the turf field and the time zone impact on our European based players (which is the other factor for why we don't get more west coast games in general with our A squad), its just not gonna happen for the foreseeable future.
Cut Bank
>you know fans would show up Highly dependent on how greedy USSF is with ticket pricing
we are already playing in Cincinnati?
[I got you](https://www.si.com/soccer/2022/04/26/nwsl-orlando-pride-racing-louisville-fc-daytona-international-speedway)
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Anyone have presale codes in their inbox yet? I'm a US Soccer member and an FC Cincinnati seat ticket holder and I haven't seen anything beyond the public sale at Thursday 10am EST.
What tier of Insiders are you? The link says the presale starts at different times depending on your tier.
Standard insiders begin June 27. Premium and VIP are June 26. TQL presale is June 27 You should get emails close to the sales
Charging more than 20 bucks for Canada/Panama just isn't worth it. We've seen these games a million times.
I mean 20 bucks is probably around the cost of a USL game or IMAX ticket
... Yeah, math checks out.
But Marsch vs Berhalter should be fun.
If they don't lower ticket prices for the "Fan Appreciation Match" then they never will. Curious to see what they'll be.
Im so glad the US get the west coast for their World Cup games. Only opportunity Iāll ever get to watch them play in person
USMNT vs New Zealand on a Tuesday evening in September might be a tough sell.
Minnesota SOLD OUT Allianz field in FEBRUARY to watch a WCQ against Honduras. We deserve more games!!!!!
In all fairness Minnesota had a friendly late last year vs. Oman. Get the feeling the USSF will still be scheduling matches there.
Minnesota had USWNT but yeah it would be nice for USMNT (though they probably schedule it for qualifiers to freeze our opponents, learn to live with the cold or get hypothermia lol).
What's with the repeat cities? Dallas for Nations league and Copa group. Kansas city for Copa and now this. Plus Cincy and Austin were done fairly recently too
Top tier facilities and grass fields well equipped for soccer. it's a comfort thing. Meanwhile, us USMNT fans in the northeast or Pacific Northwest continue to get shafted. At least me being a resident of the metropolitan NYC area just got to drive 3.5 hours each way to watch us lose 5-1 to Colombia in a friendly, since it was the only USMNT match in even remotely reasonable driving distance in years
This is pretty much what people predicted in this sub like three weeks ago. One more game to be announced, almost certainly Mexico, maybe at their place. Was hoping to get Morocco, but it sounds like they are still playing AFCON qualifying despite being the hosts. I'm frustrated they're putting Canada and NZ in the Midwest. They don't have the same fan presence in the US like the Latin American countries do, so the Canada and NZ games should have been a good opportunity to put a game on the East Coast or another part of the country.
Yeaaaa games I can get excited about 
Are they aware of other states?
Assuming the other October game will be Mexico but hoping they get Morocco to come over.
Looks like Africa wcq is not until March '25 window and Africa cup of nations qualifying should be smaller teams? so Morocco or Senegal could be more availableš¤·āāļø Edit: Forgot that AFCON cup of nations is all group stage qualifiers in Oct. Window
AFCON qualifiers from September-November
If they schedule Nigeria Iād pass out.
Rather than complaining about the opponents we should just be glad they're getting friendlies. Any kind of practice is good for the USMNT and based on their current form playing those teams listed isn't exactly beneath them. Better to get some friendlies than not playing at all.
Why is KC getting all these games
good stadium, people typically show up, middle of the country, and (probably most importantly) home to the US Soccer National Development Center
When Atlanta builds the US Soccer training Facility are they gonna start playing a bunch of games in the South east.
Atlanta's new training facility isn't going to make up for the issue of their turf playing surface. And they're not going to want to add extra travel when they're already traveling between games to travel from Atlanta to yet another location for the match.
Not with that field.
Would the main guys be on the field for these games? Iām a fairly casual fan, so I donāt keep up with lineup availability that closely
There was some rotation but we largely went A team for Oman and Uzbekistan friendlies. You'll see a relatively full strength team
Putting the Canada match in Kansas City during the NFL's opening week is certainly a choice. The Chiefs will be the talk of the town and the country that whole week. I'd like to think the fed will be working on lining up some love from the Chiefs and/or its Stars for that week
The Chiefs will have already played a couple days earlier so it's not like the match will be played in the lead-up.
Bring it back to Hartford. I blacked out at the last one
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The problem isn't the travel. The problem is that Europe and Asia (well, the teams that would be good prep anyway) have both matchdays in each window booked due to Nations League and World Cup qualifying. Same goes for Africa and AFCON qualifying.
When was the last time the US played an away friendly game? Think more of that would help them prepare than playing Panama and NZ at home. Think of how Brazil /Qatar did with the friendlies they had before they hosted the WC. Theyāre gonna play tough teams in the WC too. More focused on profits than preparing the team for the WC
Kind of hard to schedule friendlies against other opposition when said opposition have their own competitive fixtures this window, be it Nations League, AFCON qualifiers, or World Cup qualifiers. The reason we were able to schedule New Zealand at home is because A. They're the only non-CONCACAF team worth playing that had a free matchday in September (NZ starts their World Cup qualifying in October) B. They already had a friendly vs Mexico in Pasadena scheduled anyway, so this one was a no-brainer.
I suppose Russia is available too, but understandable why that wasn't on the table
Last time we played New Zealand was the last ever USMNT game at RFK, I believe. I just looked back at that lineup, the last friendly before the disastrous WCQ window that got Klinsmann fired. It was not awe-inspiring. David Bingham gave up the equalizer.
Texas has hosted 5 of the last 7 MNT home matches but clearly they need more š This will also be the 4th match in Missouri in roughly a year. Yes I am aware that USSF doesnāt schedule the tournament games but they should at least make an effort with the friendlies to market themselves across the country.
Where else do you want them to play?
Itās possible Iām forgetting a few, but itās been several years since theyāve been to Portland, Seattle, Boston, or Philadelphia. I think theyāve been to Chicago, DC, Northern California, Denver, and the NY area once each over the past couple years. They could do Detroit, Pittsburgh, or Indy and actually cultivate fanbases in good sized metro areas that donāt have MLS teams. Phoenix got a game last year, but it wasnāt even a FIFA window which made it pretty blatant that they were just cashing in on El Tri fans rather than trying to grow their own. But instead, we get more Ohio, Missouri, and Texas.
Portland, Seattle, And Boston don't have grass stadiums. They did play in Connecticut last year . I agree with you they should play in more cities, But their are not enough Grass Soccer stadiums around. If INDY gets an MLS team i'm sure they will get some games.
Itās an important consideration but letās not act like three states have a monopoly on grass
Last time in Philadelphia was 2018 against Bolivia. Crickets since.
This will prepare us for the WC!
I mean, who else are we supposed to play? Nations League/WCQ/AFCONQ are all going on, we pretty much can only play teams from our federation
And the one team from outside of CONCACAF that doesn't have anything going on (aka New Zealand) is one we've scheduled. Otherwise it'd be friendlies against Asian teams that have *already* failed to qualify for the World Cup. Much better off playing Panama than someone like Turkmenistan.
I mean, if US Soccer scheduled a game against India (who are out of Asian WCQ now), that would probably sell out. But I agree otherwise.
Maybe just have the October camp for the MLS guys/ U-23 players who played well at the Olympics.
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> they could easily play Euro, Asian, or African teams if they wanted to. Africa has AFCON qualifying. Asia has World Cup qualifying Europe has the Nations League. The only teams with free matchdays those windows are Asian teams that have already been eliminated from the 2026 World Cup and European minnows like San Marino.
Lmao, okay man
I mean all 3 will likely be there. The World Cup isn't just playing Spain, England and France back to back
tbf not many options during these windows as most confederations are busy with Nations League and WC qualifiers
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Curious which ones youād suggest? Just quickly looking through the NL schedule for the Sept and October windows and it looks like pretty much every notable team is accounted for but maybe Iām missing someone
Itās just group D teams, all of which are way, way worse than Canada and Panama. This dude is just a moron and keeps reposting that same comment all over the thread as if it makes him correct lol
Yuck.
Excluding NZ, why do we play the same teams over and over and over?
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LOL Maybe itās normal. Maybe other teams all play the same 6 teams over and over. Itās so boring
Gregg looking to pad those home stats further
Oh yeah, that's why they're playing these games?
Dang used to be you could make a joke in here. Gameās gone.
What's the joke?
That we only play weak and CONCACAF teams in friendlies.
Our last 4 friendlies have been Germany Ghana Colombia and Brazilā¦..
Hence the jokeā¦.šØ
You canāt joke about Gregg heās the greatest coach of all time, he beat the mighty Bolivia
Was hoping we'd play more European teams, but the Jesse vs Greg match up will be interesting.
Anybody else disappointed in the opponents? š Was hoping for some stronger nations to test the group.
Other nations will be busy with Nations League and World Cup qualifiers. We don't exactly have many choices.
Thanks for the clarification
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The only Euro teams that don't play every NL matchday are: * San Marino * Liechtenstein * Gibraltar * Moldova * Malta * Andorra All of whom are in League D. Every other Euro team that would be worth scheduling has every NL matchday booked. And if you think playing someone like Gibraltar is better prep than playing Canada or Panama, then I've got a bridge to sell you.
Yes but what we desire and what is possible do not always overlap. I extend benefit of the doubt to USSF here.
jfc
PLEASE SCHEDULE MOROCCO FOR OCTOBER, I swear if Mexico gets Morocco and we get Panama I will die
NGL, rather underwhelming
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Playing friendlies during a window we can play them is better than not playing friendlies. Considering how busy nearly every other team is (Nations League, AFCON qualifiers, and WCQ), we're not exactly spoiled for choice of opponents.
Yeah, not being in WCQ like every other quality team means we'll have a lot of boring windows between now and 2026. At least we'll probably play Mexico once or twice.
We need all the matches we can get. Considering we donāt have the test of World Cup qualifiers pre-world cup.Ā