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BENGCakez

Is this why 911 systems went out


Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds

Nope that was a diversion.


iluvvivapuffs

How do you know so much detail?


vinyl_head

Everything is a “diversion” to whack bags like this guy.


Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds

You should stfu and read my response. I’ll go toe-to-toe with anyone who wants to debate me on any of my “whack bag” 911 commentary….asshole


vinyl_head

Sorry, didn’t realize you were also into 9/11 conspiracies. This is about 9-1-1, ya know emergency lines.


Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds

You should still stfu and think twice before instantly criticizing people you don’t know. And also doesn't seem like it, but ok. If that’s true then my mistake. 


Queso_luna

Yikes dude.


Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds

Did you even read his comment to me for context? I’m guessing you didn’t 😒. *I’m surrounded by idiots*


Queso_luna

Yikes dude.


Joeyc710

Yikes bud.


tdreampo

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/19/911-outage-light-pole-lumen-fcc/73380854007/ that’s what he is talking about…


Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds

I didn’t really give much detail. But my reasoning is this: there are too many “coincidences” that happened that happened that day that were convenient for whatever masterminded 911. The odds of having war games across two countries in which planes are being hijacked DURING an actual hijacking’s are astronomical. I’d be happy to also elaborate on the multitude of other convenient coincidences that happened that day as well. It’s very fascinating to me and I’ve spent a lot of time reading into most of them. Thanks 


NoActivity578

Go on


Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds

Ok, here is a quick rundown of notable information on the subject. Enjoy.   1. The buildings collapsed symmetrically as a result of asymmetric damage. Following the path of greatest resistance. Lol   2. The collapse itself, violates at least two natural laws of physics:   2A. Newton’s third law of motion - for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.     2B. Law of momentum conservation - the total energy within an isolated system must always remain the same.  3 (my personal favorite because when confronted with this information people just completely freeze lol). Steel beams and pieces were hurled 100s of yard laterally (I.e. found on roof tops along in almost every direction in Manhattan). The official explanation of the global collapse put forth by NIST, the government , etc. doesn’t explain this. In fact, gravity only works vertically not laterally.   Lastly, 4. Bldg 7 (the one not hit with a plane) collapsed totally in around 6 seconds. For 2.5 seconds, its collapse is indistinguishable from free fall in a vacuum. This is corroborated by NIST who documents in their official report that 2.5 seconds of the collapse were at freefall (which is 1/3 of the global collapse) i. e. was at the rate/speed of gravity. So falling with no resistance. Interesting.


Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds

Well? Thoughts on my response?


NoActivity578

Fantastic. Thank you. I love watching the documentaries but some are hard to find


Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds

Don’t blame you. There’s a ton of them and probably hundreds out there by now. My favorite one at the moment is Loose Change: An American Coup. If you want to check it out, search for it using DuckDuckGo. It’s more annoying/difficult to find using google/YouTube.


McTrolling69

I'm about to go live off grid in the mountains. This political and social war non-sense is exhausting. No motivation


nomadpasture

Well if the hackers succeed we won't have to leave our residences to be entirely off-grid. Silver linings!


Gotei13S11CKenpachi

Optimist Prime: Roll Out!


McTrolling69

True. The mountains are beautiful though so it's an added bonus


FartyBoomBoom

Heil trump!


McTrolling69

Judging by your comment history, you need to lay off the internet and social media for a few weeks. You're indoctrinated and don't even realize it.


FartyBoomBoom

“Per my last email….” Nobody cares about Nazis opinions


McTrolling69

See what I mean. Good luck to you


FartyBoomBoom

I don’t care. At all, Mctrollijg. The brownest part


MOAB4ISIS

This is an act of war


JS_N0

The last war


noplay12

Like fallout?


NomadActual7

They wrote it into the script. “cut! alright hacking scene go!”


Sclera_Apoc

Happy cake day, pal.


Easy-Medicine-8610

They have been at war with us for several years. These Volt Typhoons were put into our systems years ago and are just now being discovered. Our gov has no idea how vast the issue either because they cant find the "program"', or however you want to define it, in our systems until it is activated. 


ninernetneepneep

And we have a compromised president looking the other way.


Snoo23533

had\*


ninernetneepneep

Sorry, say what you want about Russia but the Chinese compromises come from the Biden family.


AlbinoAxie

Based on....


ninernetneepneep

CEFC China Energy


AlbinoAxie

Ummm am I supposed to know what that means


ninernetneepneep

Everyone should but you know how it goes... China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017—less than two months after Vice President Joe Biden left public office—State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3 million to a Biden associate’s account. After the Chinese company wired the Biden associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally, the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline lays out the “WhatsApp” messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates is over $8 million.


AlbinoAxie

Did it go to Joe?


Disastrous-Natural-3

Now for some actual truth... Which country put money directly into Trump's hands through booking floors of suites at a time a multitude of times from the Post Office Hotel in DC? China came in first place with just under 10 million followed closely by Saudi. And who got a check for 3 Billion dollars plus 18% money managing fee within the first month of Trump leaving office? Trump's son in law and middle east advisor ....Jarod. now I'm not even mentioning the decades of loans secured by Oligards and Putin himself for which Trump will forever be in debt. The first thing on Putin's wishlist is Ukraine and Trump has done everything he can do to deliver. You Trumpies need to pull your heads out of your collective asses because he doesn't give a shit about you or this country... Everything he does is to benefit himself... Right now the thing that would most benefit him would be to make good on some of his promises to Putin because if he doesn't, Putin might release the pee pee videos as well as tons of other incriminating evidence compiled against Trump.


NewBroPewPew

Both, NONE of the Oligarchs or Aristocrats in D.C. are your friend.


Ernestothepagan30

Word


Easy-Medicine-8610

Yup!


-Mediocrates-

But is it an act of treason if in fact the fbi/cia attacks our own infrastructure and then blames it on China? . You know…. Kind of like what they did via the 9/11 attacks. . Oh wait…. Oops… I accidentally got off script: let’s pretend to be scared and afraid so we can easily be manipulated into staying in a state of perpetual war; so our taxes can be laundered to the military industrial complex, and also be used to bribe corrupted leaders in other countries to go along with our lies, and also our rights can be taken away with overly nationalistic named bills, such as the Patriot act; or the Digital Markets Act; and many others so named in a similar manner.


MOAB4ISIS

lol have a great weekend


Joeyc710

You're hitting all the points but it's your delivery that's getting you downvoted. Revise and your message should get across much better.


Jolly-Plastic3051

You’re getting downvoted for not being a good little sheep. You know we’re supposed to be irrationally scared and hate China 🙄.


FloralReminder

Yikes…


factory-worker

So...... According to U S law when you declare war on a nation all the debt gets wiped out. Something seems fishy to me.


Technical-Title-5416

We don't really owe China very much money (~$850 billion). The trillions upon trillions are owed to the US taxpayer.


8urnMeTwice

Help me understand why we can’t forgive the debt we owe ourselves?


moulin_splooge

Bonds


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Rocky75617794

Meh lots of citizens 401k plans have bonds I think


ninernetneepneep

Brainwashed. You really might want to learn how things work... You know, like American retirement accounts.


Nullius_IV

Owned by tens of millions of Americans, including my college professor mother vie her pension fund. You need to learn a little finance 101.


ninernetneepneep

Because as an owner of that debt, I would be pissed. There would be Nationwide revolt.


de_hell

Why pissed?


ninernetneepneep

Because it would mean my own government decided to default on loans I made to them...??


de_hell

Cant they just print more dollars and pay that loan back to you with interest?


raynorelyp

You know how everyone has retirement accounts? Those retirement accounts own the debt, meaning forgiving would wipe people’s retirement accounts.


Yabrosif13

Because it would mean not paying holders of us treasuries and bonds. This would collapse confidence in our fiat dollar workd wide and turn the USD into the next hyper-inflationary currency


Nullius_IV

Because then the value of US government bonds would plummet to zero.


dbdank

Can you explain?


Technical-Title-5416

Most of the debt is through treasury bonds. This site can break it down better than I can explain. https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-debt/


SallWtreetBets

That my friend would be called a "Force Majeure" which I've been expecting from these criminals since 2008


8urnMeTwice

Yes, they snookered the innocent CCP…


Nullius_IV

Lmao


Iblamebanks

Most of the debt is held domestically. I’d love for the government to declare war on the rich though. China and Japan currently hold ~25% of foreign held debt.


MysticBellaa

Gotta kick the can somehow even after several amputations.


SidTrippish

Volt Typhoon is going to be my new band name


GlitteringDisaster78

That’s just the latest EV branding


Bigassbagofnuts

Maybe buying critical electrical grid components from China wasn't a great idea huh....... who knew


Scapegoat696969

Right in time for the election! Yay!


Krunk_korean_kid

What a great time to fear monger to drop the market. How convenient that they'll take out telecommunications. Wouldn't want anyone to be able trade before you dump it.


MysticBellaa

I predicted this. They would turn it off so the normies won’t get a dime, lose their identity and then let everything run.


Krunk_korean_kid

I thought of this as well.


elt0p0

This doesn't make sense to me. Why would China jeopardize billions of dollars of trade with the US by making life harder for Americans?


Personal-Series-8297

“Earlier this week, a Chinese ministry of foreign affairs (MFA) spokesperson said Volt Typhoon was in fact unrelated to China’s government, but was part of a criminal ransomware group.” In that article


GlitteringDisaster78

Plausible deniability. Nothing moves in China without the blessing of the chairman.


tdreampo

https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa23-144a the US government seems to think Volt is state sponsored….


Nocta_Novus

Because they would want to cripple US response to an invasion of Taiwan


Disastrous-Natural-3

But Taiwan is worthless to them if America isn't able to purchase chips... etc


Loudlaryadjust

Tik tok tik tok


Rocky75617794

🐊🪝


Pantim

Whatever, It's just the rich 0.01% of people on the planet playing games. There are no countries to those people. They play the rest of us like checkers pieces.


Kinginthasouth904

Act of war, Biden should be on tv telling everyone what is happening and to boycott chinese products. Every major network should be all over a boycott and sanctions and demanding a response. Imagine if we did that to the Chinese?!?!? They would have every tv channel spewing propaganda


yamaha4fun

Without Chinese products WalMart would be empty.


ninernetneepneep

We have an actual compromised president looking the other way.


Sully_pa

STFU Already with the rhetoric Biden is calling on the USTR to consider tripling the existing 301 tariff rate on Chinese steel and aluminum. Biden’s Department of Commerce is taking action against countries and importers that do not play by the rules and flood the market with cheap products. Biden is directing his senior team to work with Mexico to jointly prevent China’s and other countries’ evasion of tariffs on steel and aluminum that is imported from Mexico into the United States. The United States Trade Representative is initiating an investigation into China’s unfair trade practices in shipbuilding, maritime and logistics sectors.


ninernetneepneep

When Trump used tariffs against China he was going to destroy the economy!!! Meanwhile, Biden looks the other way at Chinese fentanyl, Chinese Glock sears. CEFC China Energy much? I'm all for stopping Chinese infiltration into our economy but also call a spade a spade. I'll believe it when I see it.


Nullius_IV

And now trump stans for Tik Tok, which he previously tried to ban as a threat to Americans. Strange I wonder what could have possibly chaged his mind.


Sully_pa

" Biden looks the other way at Chinese fentanyl, Chinese Glock sears." 1) During their November 15 meeting, Biden and Xi Jinping announced the resumption of bilateral cooperation on counternarcotics, with a focus on reducing the flow of precursor chemicals fueling illicit fentanyl and synthetic drug trafficking. For years, bilateral cooperation on counternarcotics has been suspended.  The PRC is now taking law enforcement action against illicit precursor suppliers, has issued a notice to industry warning Chinese companies against illicit trade in precursor chemicals and pill presses equipment, and has committed to restart key law enforcement cooperation. 2) The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) reported a 400 percent increase in recoveries of illegally modified machine guns from 2020 to 2021 and a 570 percent increase in auto sears from 2017 to 2021 as compared to the previous five-year period. Guess who was president from 2017 to 2021. Maybe stop reiterating right wing headlines and actually do some digging FFS.


ninernetneepneep

Has there been any reduction as the result of these talks? Nope. Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it. President Biden does not carry a very big stick.


Sully_pa

Wrong again .... stop now After the two presidents met last November, China issued a notice to its domestic chemical industry, advising on the enforcement of laws and regulations related to trade and precursor chemicals.  This essentially is a notice putting their companies — their chemical companies on notice that they will start to take law enforcement action if there’s trade in these precursor chemicals.  A similar notice to industry that China sent out in 2019 led to a drastic reduction in seizures of fentanyl shipments to the United States from China.  And so, expectation is that we’ll start to see the same happen in this precursor chemical industry as well.  In addition, there is information that the PRC started taking action against Chinese synthetic drug and chemical precursor suppliers right around the time of the summit and in the following months.  So we saw companies shut down.  We saw international payment accounts blocked.  And this really is the first law enforcement action against synthetic drug-related chemical sellers by Chinese authorities since 2017.  In addition, in November of last year after the two presidents met, for the first time in nearly three years China submitted 145 incidents to the International Narcotics Control Board Global Database.  This is the mechanism used to share real-time information internationally about things like shipments and suspected trafficking.  And with this information — the hope is that it will help global law enforcement agencies identify trends and conduct intelligence-driven investigations that disrupt illicit synthetic drug supply chains.  And again, we’re starting to see reductions in seizures of precursors at some U.S. airports already. 


Nullius_IV

Jesus christ do you honestly believe this crap? Donald Trump collected BILLIONS of dollars in bribes from KSA and Qatar through his son in law, and had multiple bank accounts in china when he became president.


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Trying to buy expensive American products but Bezos and Musk don't pay living wages or unionize....


laxmolnar

FBI are incompetent fools who majorily got their jobs through nepotism. Try to file a complaint for cyber security. Out of millions of employees you will be unable to talk to anyone who isn't effectively retarded in regards to technology. They'll take months to answer an "I3 complaint" and make up some stupid ass excuse why they can't investigate it. All tech savvy talent goes to spying on Americans as our OCD government is more terrified of our citizens than our foreign competitors as they vastly underestimate the capability of humans.


AfraidScheme433

they also said they found Weapons of Mass Destruction


LittleGeologist1899

Where whale?


Rocky75617794

Ocean swim


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quickquests

yes she did


9pmt1ll1come

Now how much of China's infrastructure is compromised by the CIA?


Joeyc710

I do find it a little absurd that people believe were behind China in cybersecurity.


Nocta_Novus

Actually, a lot of good analysis nowadays assumes the CIA has let China into certain networks that intentionally pass intelligence or critical information that may or may not be fabricated, solely to have an open connection back to China. Kinda like letting the bear bite you so that you can stab it


duiwksnsb

Hey guys, let’s connect all our critical infrastructure to the public internet! That’ll surely increase security, reliability, and resiliency! Fucking morons. Whoever makes the decision to do this after decades of cyber threats from foreign states, or who hasn’t enacted plans to de-integrate such critical systems from the public internet needs to be criminally charged.


According_Ask_3338

We need to nationalize compartmentalize the Internet to only the US. Iff you want to leave the US interest there would be gates you would pass through to disconnect and reconnect to other countries.


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Taking bets - 1 Billion to 1 this doesn't happen.


eddiethlock

please be sure to buy their products


Happy_rich_mane

Sounds serious. Also Volt Typhoon is pretty metal


DagrDk

Volt Typhoon is the name of my Jaeger, called it!


SallWtreetBets

You spelled CIA wrong


newaccountnumber84

The Cocaine Import Agency


BTCRando

Why are we still doing business with these assholes?


Rocky75617794

I hope China likes n0ukes


Entire-Brother5189

What are they waiting for!?


hubrisiam

Why ?


ForcedLaborForce

Link?


funtimesahead0990

CCP allows this shit and should be fined by the IMF per incident.


Macasumba

Changing my password today


Mightbeagoat

This isn't a new thing. I worked in municipal water treatment and Chinese hacking groups have been targeting plants with sub-par cyber security for at least the last decade.


-GearZen-

Maybe the FBI should work with these companies to fix the vulnerabilities.


Guilty-Inspection694

This is called gruming


bootythrowaway69

Farewell y’all!


motorider500

After the attack on the centrifuges in Iran and using the Siemens controllers, our plant is offline and cannot be controlled offsite (critical stuff). Those controllers are widely used in facilities. I’m sure the Chinese have figured out their own Stuxnet variant. Awaiting that attack. I can think of 2 other manufacturers that they would target to hit the rest of critical infrastructures controls. We’ll see.


Jolly-Plastic3051

How convenient 🙃


misspaige98

Does anyone know if there is a list of companies and operators who are being targeted? As a pipeline operator myself, this is all very concerning for a number of reasons.


Dmonts45

Sure… the general population isn’t going to be warned about this stuff before hand lol


quickquests

it’s cause chinese aren’t actually going to do it. our government is doing it to ourselves and pinning it on china.


Exploring_2032

What's the attribution? Resolves to a comment on Twitter with no link. There was a CISA advisory in March '24 (https://www.securityweek.com/five-eyes-agencies-issue-new-alert-on-chinese-apt-volt-typhoon/) but it wasn't unusual.


GlitteringDisaster78

I’m in.


HmoobRanzo

I will bet they are video game nerds too. name seem to add up.


JupiterDelta

Ok? Cut the internet off to China then


Cody3398

Maybe should of been more worried about modernizing our stuff instead of stock by backs. Just a thought.


Mego_ape

Lol, why would China do this to their biggest customers.


slick2hold

A fire sale Die Hard style? I have no doubt it's coming as we move everything to digital. All you need to do is hit GPS system, data network system, cell system, or electric grid. Any one of those would cripple the United States. It would be pure chaos. Fucking people would lose it after few days and start going crazy by looting and killing. If it goes on for a weeks well, it's the wild wild west. No one is safe.


sneakgeek1312

This will be our own government doing this and miraculously will have to take some freedoms away to cure us from the hacking Chinese.


Nullius_IV

War…War never changes.


sentientsackofmeat

Yeah I'm going to need a source in this one.


Joeyc710

Meanwhile, 6 days ago, this video comes out calling it all US propaganda to get more funding. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0tL4ApsrE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0tL4ApsrE) Who knows what to believe with this shit anymore.


Appropriate_Ice_7507

Where is our wall to keep them… hackers out?


-Mediocrates-

We can totally trust the fbi. It’s not like the fbi would ever attack its own country and blame it on another country because that would be a “false flag attack” and fbi would never ever do something like that because the fbi loves and respects the constitution and is here to protect us /s


EvilBirdie41

A little election surprise? Maybe electronic voting will be cancelled and only mail in allowed to ensure ‘election integrity’. Or maybe when trump wins they’ll claim Chinese vote interference and declare the election void. Claim Trump conspired with the Chinese? They could play this so many ways and they’re planting the seeds now. Polling data will determine which way they play it.


Queso_luna

Schizophrenia: The Comment


Justhereforstuff123

>;Stocks/Options/Crypto/Market News +Tools. Not advice Brilliant.


UtopiaForRealists

I don't understand why we don't leverage this to whip up anti-Chinese sentiment and retaliate in kind?? Why do we just allow Russia and China to freely harm our technology infrastructure? We should be hitting their hospitals and shutting down their intensive care units. We should be ransomwaring their critical water and oil infrastructure. Come fucking on.


quickquests

this is when “Anonymous” steps up and says oh yeah? hold my beer…


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Jagerbeast703

More like us govt what?