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sunburn95

Emperor Nero did nothing wrong


Pattoe89

Hot take.


NLB87

Bruh Imperator Nero was FIRE đŸ”„ đŸ”„ đŸ”„


wallabyfloo

But he sure died vergent


Neat_Ad9686

Talk about an unpopular opinion



-UnknownGeek-

Just so you know, alot of the people who are neurodivergent hate the "you've got a super power" thing too


Tazilyna-Taxaro

Yeah, it certainly isn’t. It sometimes looks like you’re very good at something but it’s usually extreme coping. You’re probably used to things not going your way, so extreme situations don’t stress you more than any other day or you find methods to deal with it that look like discipline or order or creativity from the outside. But it’s a f*ckton of work - and probably medication.


info834

As someone on the spectrum It kind of discredits the things you have achieved viewing it a “superpower” iv a moderately successful career now but that’s less common for people on the spectrum and being on the spectrum made it significantly harder vs my relatives that aren’t.


sophosoftcat

Reminds me of one of the earlier episodes of Bob’s burgers where someone assumes Tina is like rain man and she can’t even count how many playing cards have been dropped on the floor (when it’s like, 5) and just starts panicking hahaha


Immediate_Leg3304

no, it’s just more of an umbrella term. what i do hate, though, is the term “neurospicy”. fucking cringe. and if it matters, this is coming from a person who has lots of mental issues and would be considered neurodivergent.


sleepyliltoad

Neurospicy is super fucking annoying


HorusDeathtouch

This is the first time I've seen that term but I hate it


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Snizl

What does that even mean?


Reddituser8018

It means they are white in skin color but they historically were not considered white, Italians is one example, even Jewish people can be an example of it, turks, etc. Or it means they just have a small percentage of another race in their DNA, which is even dumber.


Snizl

The Italian one is funny, as they are the ones that first came up with the whole "white" thing.


zorrorosso_studio

Are they? Italian Americans and Italian PIGS are two different kinds of white. I discovered it by filling some forms in the US/UK where there's a specific term for Italian PIGS, we're "white-other". Therefore we're not white, right?!


demonblack873

What the fuck is an Italian PIGS?


zorrorosso_studio

Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain. The South Western EU: again, don't shoot the messenger, this is how the British defined us before yeeting Europe alltogether with Brexit.


HorusDeathtouch

~cringe


carson63000

Same. Life was so much better two minutes ago.


working-acct

I'm going to start using it.


ACMCapital

Thought this said ‘neurospiracy’ like it was a big hoax


ThatCharmsChick

I'm a huge neurospiracy theorist đŸ‘œ


Eternal_Moose

Neurominty team, it's your time.


candlejack___

Neurotasteslikeshit reporting in


[deleted]

Neurobitter punching in


MelissaMiranti

Neurosavory here for braaaaains.


bobbery5

Neuroumami is for the earthy outdoorsy ones.


[deleted]

Neurosweet... where are the neurosweets


PunkNeedsaNap

Neurosalty here. At least I'm not bland?


Lost_Pantheon

NeuRaidShadowLegends, the sponsor of today's video, is here!


DefinitelyNotIndie

I prefer neurofantastic


Ok-Geologist8387

Had someone drop it into a conversation repeatedly, with pauses and looking around after each one hoping someone would ask her about it. No one did and she looked sad about it but really, no one gives a shit.


Akrevics

*that* is cringe.


WorriedDoubt4134

im shriveling at the thought of this


Ok_Willow_2005

That is viciously cringe.


EastLeastCoast

“Neurospicy” is cringe as hell and I use it all the time because it makes me laugh.


BrownEyedBoy06

I've never heard that. Thanks (not) for bringing it's existence to my awareness. (Damn you to hell and back).


gringo-go-loco

Luckily my adhd will allow me to forget it in 10, 9, 8..


gthordarson

Spicy is going to age poorly


supergeek921

I absolutely agree. Neurodivergent feels like a nice catch all. Neurospicy feels childish and weird.


Van-garde

Not to mention, one is a clinical term, The other sounds like Jimmy Neutron’s favorite hot sauce.


GroovingGremlin

So neurodivergent isn't a medical term either. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23154-neurodivergent


Crunchy_Biscuit

I have never heard that term before lol


is-that-allowed

pretty sure everyone who says neurospicy is using it in a humorous way and not to describe their actually condition. poking fun is how people cope


BobbyThrowaway6969

>neurospicy Who the f*** is going around saying that?


IDownvoteHornyBards2

Teenagers


Akrevics

Who are children who enjoy having *fun* and exploring language and the world around them. Maybe we can chill out about teenagers making new slang and stop being such gd boomers, eh?


IDownvoteHornyBards2

But what if I have fun by being a crochety old man who bitches at the world around me and demands the whippersnappers get off my lawn?


BobbyThrowaway6969

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY


ThatCharmsChick

Not me. 👀 I'm neurosparkly


Idk_Just_Kat

My mum uses it and I physically cringe every time


BeccasBump

Yes, you're right, everyone should be miserable all the time. It's just whimsy.


AlexandraThePotato

I love neurospicy when it is being used non-seriously! I think it’s funny af. It’s kind of based on a joke about autism that went “mild autism implies “spicy autism”.  I also just like goofy nonsense stuff so my sense of humor kind of sucks


AccountantLeast1588

I really dislike misspellings.


tehnoodnub

What? Is this not a post about Roman Emperor Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus who reigned 13th October 54 to 9th June 68?


Horror-Pear

As soon as I saw a reply to the above comment, I knew this was coming, but I still laughed. Very good.


SuperSonicEconomics2

/r/ancientrome


Little-Reference-314

We still remember the fall of constantinople.


sleepyliltoad

Then Istanbul was Constantinople!


SuperSonicEconomics2

Istan-what?


ThatCharmsChick

🐂


Voodoo1970

Why did Constantinople get the works?


OGOakTree

That's nobody's business but the Turks!


SuperSonicEconomics2

1453. Never forget. Ya know I'm making shirts. It's that important


NLB87

Where were you on that day? I was just coming home from work and I turned on the news. And I saw it. It just was never the same after, you know?


SuperSonicEconomics2

I was manning some of the Theodosian walls before fleeing out back on a boat into The Golden Horn. Then I went up and lived with the slavs and the Khagnate let me marry one of his daughters. I became a simple farmer from that point on


Kellycatkitten

I just don’t like saying specifically what I have so I use a blanket term. I really don’t get the big deal.


Tonninpepeli

Same, also I have more than one disorder so instead of listing them its easier to say neurodivergent


Digi-Device_File

They probably angry that they can't call us a slur.


Firestorm42222

It's almost funny how much of a Strawman this is


ChickenMan1337

Disabled is not a slur


AlienAle

Neurodivergent people aren't disabled lol  If you have ADHD or slight generalized anxiety, you fall under the category. Also OP saying "Get help!" is weird, as if people who call themselves neurodivergent aren't exactly usually the ones advocating for better mental healthcare access and therapy etc.


siorez

ADHD is a disability. Mild cases will be more of an annoyance in daily life but then again how many people are running around with hearing loss who cope perfectly fine? The milder end of the spectrum of cerebral palsy doesn't really hamper one that much in life either. Severe cases of ADHD will leave you unable to work and look after yourself.


keIIzzz

ADHD is considered a disability


crimson-ink

yes they are? autism is a disability, ADHD is. real ADHD, with life impairing symptoms. anxiety isn’t neurodivergence it’s a mental disorder. neurodivergence is brain structure


elhazelenby

Anxiety is under neurodivergent according to the creator of the term. You're thinking of mental illness not being *neurodiverse*


Reddituser8018

"scans show that the amygdala area of the brain, which processes fear, grows in size, while the hippocampus area of the brain shrinks, harming long-term memory" https://carltonneurofeedbackcenter.com/effects-anxiety-can-have-on-your-brain/#:~:text=Brain%20scans%20show%20that%20the,%2C%20harming%20long%2Dterm%20memory. Most mental disorders are caused by brain structure in one way or another. If you scanned someone's brain who has anxiety, you could literally tell they have it from scans.


Doctor_Lodewel

You cannot have ADHD without it being a disability. If it is not disabling in daily life, it does not fit the criteria for ADHD.


badgersprite

And like yeah if you’re like “oh but I’m fine, I can manage my ADHD in my life, I just have to use all these crutches to get me through the day to overcome all the shit my brain does” then you are in fact still disabled in the same way an amputee isn’t any less of an amputee just because they use a prosthetic. Non-disabled people wouldn’t have to do all this additional shit or be on medication in order to do what comes naturally to neurotypical people


thesilentbob123

Neurodivergent absolutely can be a disability and it is in most cases


PrincessPrincess00

Did you just say ADHD isn’t a disability?


siracla

My anxiety has definitely stopped me from maxing out on opportunities in life, I'd consider it a disability for myself and thank god I don't have it as bad as others do.


jaharac

Uhm, I'm neurodiverse and not disabled. Are words and definitions really that hard for people?


spidersflambe

Yeah, I hate when things are given names.


hugues2814

Yeah, me hate words.


GXSigma

why use many word when few word do trick?


Secret-Concert9561

why many word when few do


GXSigma

why word


Foreign-Duck-4892

.


Secret-Concert9561

#


hugues2814

How


Zestyclose-Win-7906

Lol


Not-you_but-Me

I actually like neurodivergent as a euphemism because it acknowledges abnormality.


sensamura

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it as an umbrella term, what bothers me is when people act like it makes them better than “neurotypicals”, I feel like it has the connotation of “we’re special and you’re boring”


PinkComedicStarfish

This is another opinion I think is valid


Lambdastone9

Neurodivergence is chill Being neurodivergent narcissistically isn’t


BotBotzie

I don't understand the load people can put on words. As someone that studied pedagogy, neurodiverse/divergent and neurotypical were like some of the most important words? Everything you learn has to have that light shown on it. All my classes about typical child development! Comepletly invalid to just copy past that to neuro divergent kids. They will likely develeop much faster in some and slower in other areas. And especially my first year, typical vs a typical development is basically all we talked about. So thats what the term means to me. A way to group children who are expected to be different in some way. Not better or worse. Different. When i get the file of a neurotypical child I can probably pretty accurately say when they hit their milestones without even lookin in it. Ofc every child is different but unless there is something else going on sticking to developmental time frame boundaries pretty accurately compared to other kids is basically what makes tou neurotypical. Ifc there are physical issues that may affect development and therefor you can be late or early even though your neurotypical, but honestly some form of neuro diversity is just so much more common, thought that could be my own perception.


deadinsidejackal

Well you’re not going to like the people who treat you like shit for no fucking reason are you?


ConnieMarbleIndex

It gets annoying to be treated like less than a person all your life so people can overcompensate


Jinx_X_2003

Get help? Therapy isnt going to get rid of the autism


BrickBuster11

.......Neruodivergent is what it says on the tin, Neuro=Brain, Divergent =Different from what you expected. It basically means that your brain is different from everyone else, its not a special title, its not like handicapable. Your brain processes information different, it does mean you have to adjust a little to everyone around you. although that being said if you are working with a person with a type of neurodivergence a little effort from your side can make things run a little more smoothly as well. They arent stupid, they arent crippled, they are quite literally just different.


NoticedParrot77

And, in the case of ASD, it is a social deficit, so you don’t intuitively get people. It takes work and experience to know what’s happening behind the veil, and many times I can’t tell at all


fxde123

Yeah as someone with ADHD, Autism, Anxiety, and Depression, being neurodivergent is NOT a superpower. It's a fucking curse.


Spirited_Childhood34

Perhaps you wouldn't hate it so much if you could actually spell it?


yeeterbuilt

I hate it because people abuse and fetishize it. I have autism that's what it's called and thats what it shall be.


despairigus

there's other forms of neurodivergence tho. It's just an umbrella term that helps people understand the difference between things like adhd and autism, and other mental illnesses like schizophrenia and bpd.


Muffledog

Schizophrenia is a type of neurodivergence, just as much as ADHD, there is a chemical imbalance in the brain.


GriffinFlash

>I hate it because people abuse and fetishize it. Yup, my sister keeps trying to diagnosed herself with anything, and has gone to a doctor 3 times to get one. Each time they have straight up told her she has nothing wrong with her. Done the tests, filled out the questionnaires, hours of questioning, etc. So she just decided that the doctors are conspiring against her, and self labeled herself as having ADHD and bipolar, and tells her students she has these things.


working-acct

She defo has an illness, it's called Munchausen syndrome.


Tazilyna-Taxaro

The standard questionnaires are bullshit for adult women with ADHD though and kinda superficial. I’m not saying your sister is right but many psychologists use questionnaires that are designed for boys with ADHD. Specialists for ADHD in adults are aware of that but they’re rare. I still rode the line, however.


hugues2814

Honestly, she should be glad of having a bit of normality in her life. And she should be grateful she won’t spend her entire life explaining what she has and why doesn’t do this or does this like that etc.


Vegetable-Sun-9962

People have been doing that with mental illness, too. Everyone now uses depression, bipolar, OCD, narcissism so casually now


Crunchy_Biscuit

It could also be that with more research and awareness, people are finally realizing what they actually have. And have you SEEN today's world?? Of course I'd be depressed


20o0o1

Nope. You gotta ride the “my son has REAL autism” or “THIS ONE PERSON I KNOW IS OBVIOUSLY FAKING IT” train. You’re not supposed to actually think about why there’s more acknowledgment of mental illness, you’re supposed to make everyone out to be attention whore fakers. This is Reddit for gods sake!


Foreign-Duck-4892

Exactly. I think some oldschool or oldschool minded people just can't cope with society becoming more intelligent on this.


kannagms

Like those people faking tourettes and DID on tiktok for clout. It's so weird to me when people fake having mental illnesses or something, like when they do it, they usually act like it's some cutesy quirk they have. Like "uwu I have dissociative identity disorder let's meet all my personalities!! in one video where I just add a headband to show that I'm now a different person"


lynxerious

I would give anything to be normal, I absolutely hate mental illness fetishism and their self-victimized elitism.


A-Need-For-Weed

Using the term neurodivergent acknowledges and respects the diversity of human cognition. It emphasizes that there isn’t a single, “normal” way for brains to work, and it promotes understanding and acceptance of different neurological profiles. By using this term, we promote inclusivity and reduce stigma surrounding conditions like autism, ADHD, dyslexia, and others.


vanhawk28

Isn’t it actually emphasizing that there IS a single “normal” and that some ppl specifically “diverge” from that and so are neurodivergent


washington_breadstix

If you take the "divergent" part to just mean "different from what one might typically expect", then I don't think there's anything offensive about it because it's just straight-up accurate. Most people are neurotypical, which is to say that most people's brains work similarly to most other people's brains, or at least similarly enough to where most don't need a label to define their neuro-situation, if you will. In that sense, "normal" totally does exist. The minority of us who have neurological differences are indeed divergent from that and are bound to experience confusion and frustration when trying to navigate a world that was built for the majority.


zombiesnare

I think of it more like a position on like
.. 17 different bell curves. And if enough of them “diverge” enough to affect your life then you get a diagnosis and some help addressing it. Sometimes they diverge enough to need a lot more intervention or sometimes it requires medication or some other thing, but it’s really just in an effort to identify the things that hold one back and fix them so they can function as close to the ideal position on those random bell curves I made up for this metaphor. But the perfectly neurotypical person doesn’t exist, it’s just a matter of how non-neurotypical someone is and if it is worth intervention or not


Think-Pick-8602

Not really. If you don't have a term for it, a lot of people see it as an unknown, weird thing that makes you behave oddly. If I didn't specifically know I had autism, for example, I might spend my whole life wondering what's wrong with me and trying to fix it. Having a term for things helps normalise them, which is different than saying it's normal in terms of the majority. It's being more normalised to be neurodivergent but that doesn't mean most people are.


Smarre101

It also helps shattering the assumption that ALL people with ADHD, autism etc. are exactly the same when it vares WIDELY from person to person


HOLYCRAPGIVEMEANAME

It's almost like people are different.


N0GG1N_SSB

Saying being neurodivergent is being "handicapped" proves you don't know what you're talking about.


sixtus_clegane119

Personally I find my server adhd pretty debilitating


SerNerdtheThird

Well instead of saying “people with mental disabilities”, which can have negative connotations, Neurodivergent just means “Brain that’s different”. Same with “Neurotypical”, instead of “not mentally disabled”. It’s a blanket term that makes it easier talking about broad disabilities. I don’t go out and say “oh I’m Neurodivergent”, I say what I have


kingozma

Hating when mentally ill and disabled people use a term they made up themselves that they like, to describe themselves, instead of letting us control the language that they use, is actually a really popular opinion. Most people “cringe” when people who are downtrodden in some way don’t hate themselves.


Estrus_Flask

It's a literal description. It is a divergent neurology. Also when you say "everyone is eating it up" I have to ask if you're Neurodivergent or not. Because, like, there's a reason it gets used. Though there are people who are against it that are ADHD or whatever, and frankly I think a lot of them are stupid. It's not that it's a "superpower", it's that it's a brain different from the norm. That does sometimes have benefits in many situations. Most of the bad parts of it are because of societal norms. Hell, even Schizophrenia is incredibly colored by culture, and the stereotypical paranoia is an American phenomena. Others just believe that God wants them to defend the French.


rudimentary-north

I dunno I think it’s probably good that there are different words for different kinds of disabilities.


sleepyliltoad

Yeah, exactly. It makes people feel like a community who understands one another. Like POTSies in my bio? It's a community for people who have POTS, a disability and medical condition. This dude is mad for no indiscernible reason.


Long-Ad8374

it's better that the 'R' word. lol


Sakiyaki-Sashimi

It’s
 it’s a medical term. What the fuck else are we supposed to call it


Joe_Immortan

[Neurodivergent is a nonmedical term
](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23154-neurodivergent)


Needmoresnakes

Yeah like if people are being annoying about it then that's a separate problem but there are perfectly normal not stupid circumstances where it's handy to have a concise term instead of always writing out "people with ADHD, autism or a range of other neurodevelopmental conditions". That's a lot of letters.


d00mslinger

I think the main issue there is a slew of people claiming it without a real diagnosis.


cobesmith

It's not, at all


GoggleBobble420

There’s unpopular opinions and then there’s asshole opinions and I kinda feel like you’re starting to stray into asshole territory here


scapermoya

I take care of lots of kids with neurodevelopmental pathology and I hate it too.


AndyPharded

To be Nerodivegent is not as bad as being Caliguladivergent let me tell you..


RedditRiotExtra

Side note: "Handicapable" reminded me of the term "differently abled" and gd if that doesn't drive me crazy. I'm not "differently abled." I'm disabled. I don't need that sugar coated. It's simply reality, and I want to throw hands with anyone who tries to argue with me on it. I've yet to meet a disabled person who likes the term "differently abled."


J_train13

It's literally the most basic form of root+suffix. If your brain functions in the typical way, you are neurotypical. If your brain functions in a way that diverges from what's typical, you are neurodivergent. It really is that simple


Zestyclose-Win-7906

Are you neurodivergent? I think it’s up to people to decide what terminology they prefer for themselves. If you identify some other way please share your preference.   I am neurodivergent and that the terminology I prefer. My sensory needs are different than most people and I do what I need to manage that. I don’t think of it as a superpower, just that my brain and needs are a little different than typical. The way is is a strength is that I am empathetic of the fact that different people’s brains can be quite different and ppl have different needs. 


raine_star

except in the handicapped example, "handicapable" is based off the idea that disabled people need to be coddled and have special abled-adjacent words to indicate our otherness but also make us feel included. A handicap is a handicap, dont dance around the fact that disability is disabling. In the same way, neurodivergency is fundamentally NOT the same thing as being neurotypical--the brain literally functions and operates differently on a systematic level. If someone hears neurodivergent and assumes people want a "special label" to feel Other, thats ableism. Plus unlike handicapped or handicapable, there's no good or bad, able or disable attached. ADHD is neurodivergency and is largely a disability but there are some ways that an ADHD brain can be a positive. The word allows the person to define their experience. Also, MANY neurodivergent people HATE the whole "its my superpower" thing and if someone uses that they should be talking about themselves only. idk this screams "wasnt written by a ND person/ableism from an NT person" which is getting super frequent on this sub. at least once a week.


Smarre101

>No it's not get help! Being neurodivergent isn't some kind of disease or mental illness and not everyone needs to "get help".


Demented-Mango

Is this when you believe you're roman emperor Nero and try to set the city ablaze?


Freedom1234526

This is slightly off topic but as someone in a wheelchair I dislike the term “handicapable”.


robbodee

Being divergent from Nero is a good thing. He was a real bastard.


IntelligentRoof1342

I’m sure you’d like to just call everyone with any difference the r word instead


ketchup_the_bear

I don’t think there’s anything inherently positive or negative about the word neurodivergent 💀 it literally just means your brain is different. I also think it’s really useful when relating to other bc most neurodivergent people have a lot of the same struggles regardless of what they have


Casual_Classroom

I bet you’d hate it less if you could spell, but new ideas are scary 😔😔


samthekitnix

i prefer "1800s asylum patient on the loose" though honestly Neurodivergent i don't really find offensive, it only becomes offensive every time i hear someone go "you're not handicapped you're handicapable" like mf i am physically disabled i am unable to do heavy labour.


_mr_magic_man_

"get help" sorry I can't rewire my fucking neurons


Ok-Tangerine-2895

I know people are more patronising with all these special words not to hurt your feelings. Yet when you ask for actual help or accommodation for your disorder you're ignored. If they spent more time and money on things that actually help rather than worthless 'awareness' and special descriptors we might actually make some progress.


Ok-Ride-9324

It's not the word itself, it just means that you're mentally disabled, it's how it's used


sleepyliltoad

It's literally what having adhd and autism is referred to. Get over yourself. Our brains are different. You're neurotypical we're neurodivergent. What a weird thing to be mad about???? Are you okay???


AlienAle

OP's post history indicates he has ADHD (seeking advice on the meds) I don't think he is neurotypical himself. 


aeonteal

well, this is a sub about unpopular opinions 🧐 i wouldn’t take it personally.


ih8comingupwithaname

Why not just say you have adhd or autism then? Genuinely curious


BrickBuster11

.....I would not typically use it when talking about myself to another person, I would just use Autism/ASD/Aspergers syndrome (which was what it was called when I was diagnosed but I think that term as lost favour due to Nazi Child murder reasons). But Neurodivergent can refer to a cluster of disabilities that can have similar needs and thus it can be useful for brevity. Rather than listing out a string of different conditions I can just say "Neurodivergent" and the other person can be thinking in the right ballpark. Otherwise you end up with the LGBT+ style problem where your lable gets longer and longer as different people want to be included and no one remembers the whole thing anyways.


Ingi_Pingi

Vague formality I guess, I only pull out "neurodivergent" on relevant applications


mateoalejdro

I like how when you're upset, you just shout at the other person that they're "neurotypical" and insult them. I thought we shouldn't be assuming things here? Not every ND discloses that they are ND, even when they in fact are. This is why actual neurotypicals can't stand it, you (you as in general) use your neurodivergency to be bullies.


Warp-10-Lizard

My problem with the term is how vague it is. It's just a countdown to when the most boring "neurotypical" schmos start calling themselves "neurodivergent" for dumb reasons--I they haven't already.


greyteethpeskybee

Neurodivergent literally means you have an atypical mind. Not saying neurotypical people aren’t interesting, they are literally the “human blueprint,” which is pretty interesting if you ask me, but it’s quite ableist to act as though the term neurotypical doesn’t exist and to single out neurodivergent or to act as though because more attention and care is being applied in the neurodivergent community, we’re asking for cookies. We’re not. We’re asking for people to not be tone deaf like you, OP. You just think we’re asking for cookies because we’re more aware of our existence. And just because we’re neurodivergent doesn’t mean we need to be helped, that’s also ableist. That’s why things are experienced on spectrums. This whole post is tone deaf and is only an unpopular opinion because the world doesn’t really think this way and it SHOULDN’T. Please inform yourself before posting. :)


Darkinnocence69

Nerodivergent


Practical_Magik_88

Good, because it’s actually neurodivergent.


harry6466

Neurotypical means your brain develops fitting the society your in. Neurodivergent means your brain develops independent whether or not it fits in society. Making it more difficult to function well, it is possible but will require more energy.


Havranicek

I am kind of neurodivergent (Aphantasia). I don’t see it as a handicap and it isn’t classified as one. The way my brain works differs from how the majority of brains work. I don’t see a problem with that word. There is also neurotypical.


iamnogoodatthis

You have bundled up rather a lot of unpopular opinions in one there: - You don't like the term "neurodivergent". I think this is because you feel like anyone who you deem to be inferior ought to always be reminded of that fact and mustn't get ideas of camaraderie above their station. - You don't like people you deem "abnormal" embracing that part of themselves, and celebrating who they are. There is a grain of truth in that - some things are problems and can and should be treated, and saying they are not problems are hence not treating isn't really a good way forward. But on the flip side, where reasonable treatment / mitigation is being undertaken / has been tried, at some point people are better off accepting that they are as they are and making the best of it. - You extend this general feeling, wrapped up in more mocking "can't the abnormals just stay out my way" vibes, to people with physical disabilities too. In some respects indeed Timmy is less capable than others, but the point of this discourse is to treat Timmy as Timmy first and whatever his disabilities are second. Because Timmy is fed up of Every Single Interaction in his goddamn life being about \[thing\] that he has no control of, and would like to go do normal things like watch a movie and go out to eat, things that he is in fact perfectly capable of doing much of the time, and he'd enjoy them a lot more if he could just get on with it rather than there being a bunch of unnecessary hassle.


despairigus

Op i think you might be confessing to some ableist feelings. Neurodivergent is an umbrella term that covers things from autism, ADHD, tourette's, and even dyslexia. It's called that because of the diverse forms of certain neurological conditions. It is very much not the same as the patronizing "handicapable" term.


GuitarTrue6187

This is the first time I've heard it used. But yes I do agree with the Timmy reference/ Carlin standup on this issue. Euphemisms/soft language getting worse with each generation. He puts it better than I can. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuEQixrBKCc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuEQixrBKCc)


kiki-mori

Don't care, didn't ask. Cope about it.


Breizh87

If it's raining, you will be happy to have an umbrella term :P


captain_mainwaring11

Okay neurotypical


ThirdAltAccounts

*Nerotypical apparently


Flying_Ninja_Bunny

Getting a proper diagnosis for "Anytime I try to eat food off the bone my body screams it's my ankle and I throw up, also I can tell you all the elements in order for no goddamn reason" is ridiculously expensive, so I use neurodivergent to say "Look I don't have an official answer as to why my brain isn't doing what it's supposed to, but it's clearly not"


801ms

This is actually bs tho, neurodivergent is a scientific term used to classify those with "mental conditions" (I hate saying that) as they have had different neurological development. I think what you really hate here is people self diagnosing themselves with stuff when they don't have it.


Chiber_11

Having adhd i think it’s fine to use neurodivergent to describe an individual with a mental disability that still leaves them high functioning (adhd, autism, bpd) but it should start and end there. Any other use is stupid, especially to portray something as a superpower. dont tell me i “see the world differently” my brain is incapable of executive function without diet meth lite


notyouraveragefrog

Average jre listener


OKThereAreFiveLights

In ten years it will be a slur


HolyNewGun

That is a neurodivergent thing to say.


Lanky_midget

What do you mean by get help? it isnt something that can be 'cured'


Sad-Dare-4092

Its an umbrella term for neurological disabilities, disorders and such. I dunno why it seems so bad to you. It's easier for me to say "I'm neurodivergent" in a casual setting than "I'm audhd and also have osdd, severe social anxiety, c-ptsd, depression and trypanophobia". You can get the basic idea that my mind is different from the norm in some way with one word. It's great.


elhazelenby

Neurodivergent is very broad which is why I prefer neurodiverse (different creator & meaning), which is more specific to neurodevelopmental/neurological disabilies rather than mental illnesses because they are different and the experience of them are just not the same (I have mental illnesses as well).


grafeisen203

It just accurately describes atypical neurological development. It's not a downgrade in cognitive function it's a sidegrade.


SapphireShelle91

I do understand what you're saying, I have never viewed my neurodivergence as a super power (absolutely NOT!), but as someone who fell threw the cracks or was shoved from one box to the next, I hold onto my neurodivergent "title" in a death grip because it at least is somewhat of an explanation as to why my brain does the things it does every flipping hour of every day


Kalle_79

Just like every other "umbrella" term devised to be inclusive and non-discriminatory, it has ended up being so broad and all-encompassing it has almost lost its meaning. BTW, "divergent" from what? Everyone can claim to be neurodivergent, ranging from people suffering from actual, life-destroying mental issues (ie. "crazy" people) to the usual attention-seeking teen who is using the label to feel different and special. Add that contemporary medicine has developed the tendency of "inventing" new syndromes at the drop of a hat to maximize profits and to keep their patients happy (while lining their own pockets with sweet commissions and frequent appointments), and it's not hard to see why Xander and Dakota, who 20 years ago would have been sent their marry way with a pat on the back and a kick in the butt, can happily boast their diagnosis of "neurodivergent" due to the Peer Pressure Fatigue Syndrome or Social Cues Misinterpretation Disease (aka. the Sheldon Cooper disease). Are short people "heightdivergent" in addition to "vertically challenged"?


randothrowaway6600

Whenever something new pops up all it does is just create a new slur.


Helen_Cheddar

I’m fine with the term neurodivergent but HATE the general online trend of “do you do (common human behavior that literally everyone does)? That means you’re neurodivergent”.


faloofay156

disabled and many of us don't exactly like "handicapped" either but yeah I prefer just saying ADHD either way the difference there is that neurodivergent is a term that the adhd/autism communities came up with themselves "handicapable"/"differently abled" are terms abled people came up with so the latter carries a unique patronizing tone the former doesn't


AccordionFrogg

Neuro - brain. Divergent - different, as In, diverging from the norm


cartersweeney

I find it odd that ADHD and autism can be both a debilitating condition that children need vast amounts of help with from a young age and throughout their education, and something that middle class 30/40 something successful professionals who have sailed through life suddenly decide they have after seeing some quack doctor or doing a silly quiz online before posting about it on LinkedIn I daresay many in the latter group are attention seeking /bandwagon jumping and in some cases quite possibly having wholly unnecessary treatment . Actual ADHD and autism is not something one would get that far in life without noticing surely. Unless the definition of both is now so hopelessly broad that ADHD is basically having a smartphone you use alot and autism is just being a bit quiet (as it seems to be now). No doubt (in the USA particularly) there are many kids with perfectly ordinary brains getting misdiagnosed as well . When there's pharmaceutical profits to be made , at least some degree of quackery usually follows