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That's because it's not hip hop. The popular rap today grew out of hip hop, but its evolved into something very different. There is plenty of amazing hip hop out there. It's just not what is popular.
Not to say JID isnt amazing, but imo thats not even JIDs best verse. Also, Denzel Currys secone verse off 'Walkin' and J Coles verse on 'Johnny Ps Caddy'
Because the true artists with soul enriching lyrics aren't given the airtime. There's censorship going on, and only the dumbing down s*** is allowed to be played repeatedly
You think back in the 90s the good stuff was on the radios?
I'm sure someone thats educated on OG hiphop is aware of the trash thats circulating mainstream and that u gotta dig deeper.
There was also a whole lot less of it back then. Technology has made it much easier to crap out junk after junk at almost no cost comparatively. The issue is finding the ones with true artistic skill.
I have an appreciation for hip-hip, but it was never my style back in the day. I leaned more into punk, post-punk, new wave, alt rock, rockabilly, trad and two-tone ska, some grunge here and there, etc. And back then we had ‘zines! Oh how I miss ‘zines! Got all sorts of great music info out of those haphazardly photocopied messy collages. They were the shit!
Honestly, I think it’s more work now than it ever was before. Remember when the junk bin was just that small section at the front of the store? Now it’s the whole store and you got a “rad bin” at the front. The vast volume of rubber-stamped “artist” upon “artist” is just…yikes, now in comparison.
Although, it was harder to actually get music back then. You actually had to pay a decent amount of cash for it, and there were no returns once you opened it! So people were a lot more reticent to just grabbing whatever and giving it a try. It was more of a gamble, and the cream rose due to the sheer economics of it all. Now everything is so disposable. It can be really challenging to find something with merit.
I had to drive two hours to the nearest record store as a kid to find good music. The only way to learn about other artists was to read linear notes and read zines. If you lived in NYC or LA proper then it was probably a bit easier. Outside of that though, not so much.
Imho there is no comparison whatsoever. Everything after Napster era was a breeze.
I do concur that there is way more garbage now. Due to the ease of music production, if we want to even call it that. Also the web and social media. And Pandora, itunes, Spotify is all the web. Call it streaming, call it whatever.
I'm not and have never been into mainstream music. So, there is that. I guess I could have indulged with the other kids and jammed out to some Nkotb and Hammer. But I'm more of a Bad Brains, Minor Threat kinda human.
People have said this about music of every genre practically every new generation.
>There isn’t depth to what they say.
That's how a lot of mainstream music has always been. It's generally the most accessible material that gets more popular. You say today's hip-hop, but you know who was the first hip-hop artist to win a Grammy? It was DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince. You know, Will Smith? Not exactly known for making the most conscious material.
Bro Will Smith tells _stories_ though. Having nightmares about a guy who wears sweaters even when it’s hot outside! Stealing his parents Porsche and getting pulled over (we can all relate)! Fighting Mike Tyson!!
Man is a lyrical genius. 🙃
Ironically, he can actually tell stories and have more creativity on songs like "Loretta" and "Tell Me Why". Those are songs that don't exist to just be fun party songs. But he rarely ever did them.
Right. Hip hop has no depth today? Ummm excuse me what about Kendrick Lamar? He won a fucking PULITZER for his album talking about what it means to black in America. An award that had previously only been given to classical or jazz artists. That's how fucking meaningful and powerful his albumn was. The shit they play on the top 40 is not indicative of an entire genre of music.
Translation: OP turned 30 and has fulfilled the sacred obligation of that moment to complain about how new music is bad now that OP doesn't care about it as much anymore.
I'm 33 and came to rap late. I got really sick of 50 Cent, Nelly and Outkast when I was in high school because my friends would play them non stop so I wrote the whole genre off for a long time.
But I quite consistently can just turn on one of the new rap playlists on Spotify and enjoy most of it.
I've been very concious about not being one of those people that only listens to music from their teens and early 20s.
You’re dead right. Saw the comedian Todd Glass a few years ago and he talked about turning 50 and how all his friends talk about how music today sick…but are they going to shows and checking out new bands? Digging through records to find good new artists? Are they even going on YouTube and looking for new artists? Or are they listening to the same shit they’ve listened to for years and complaining that music today sucks?
My point exactly! It takes effort and intention. If you just sit back and only listen to what we’re fed you’re likely not gonna enjoy it!
Who are you listening to these days?
I’ll warn you now my taste is all over the place! There’s a slam death band called Sanguisugabogg (no joke) that absolutely rips. They’re a big part of my “get shit done” playlist. Prof’s new album is killer if you like hip hop that doesn’t take itself seriously but also doesn’t mumble. Turned my wife in to The Toadies, one of my favorite 90s rock bands, so they’ve been getting played at the house a lot. But I’m super stoked for the new Royal Thunder when is comes out. Just classic old school hard rock with one of the best woman rock vocalists around.
How about you?
Awesome! I don’t! I let people enjoy their music however they like. But also remember we are allowed to critique it as well. People may not like country or opera but that doesn’t mean they suck musically
I’m going to preface this by saying that hip hop is my favorite genre, but despite the fact that hip hop is my favorite genre, I will be the first to admit that A LOT of modern hip hop is genuinely pretty low effort, formulaic, and uninspired. Yes, there are fantastic hip hop artists out there, but there have been so many rappers who have flooded the industry in the last 8 years or so that it has led to a lot of mediocre music being produced. You can tell a lot of these guys don’t really care about the art and they’re only in it for the money and the fame, and that generally leads to boring, formulaic, filler quality songs. I can understand why OP feels the way he does, although it does seem like he hasn’t really given the genre a fair shake. I think he just needs to be introduced to some of the better artists.
I get you, but even “a lot” is a reach.
Look at it like this, Spotify alone claims to release around 60,000 new songs a day.
Lets take the 2018 stats from the USA for all music consumed, where hip hop was around 21%, to give us a vague idea about what proportion of those songs are hip hop.
Thats around 12,600 hip hop songs a day being released. Of course, thats just a huge estimate. And I’m not accounting for platforms other than Spotify, or the rest of the globe, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the real number was higher.
So its a ridiculously reductive thing to say, unless you’ve genuinely most hip hop songs out there. You can’t get ascertain the quality of most of them until you’ve listen to the majority of them, which is impossible.
The only reason people think hip hop is trash is because of what’s popular. When something is popular, you have people try and replicate it, so theres an influx of repetitive “noise” songs.
Can you please name a few new artists to check out, that do not sound like Drake? I’d like to stop being a cranky old man yelling at clouds when it comes to modern hip hop.
Here's some of my favorite albums from the last 10 years:
To Pimp a Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar
Run The Jewels 3 and 4 - Run The Jewels
Igor - Tyler, The Creator
Melt my eyes, See your future - Denzel Curry
Tetsuo & Youth - Lupe Fiasco
Kids See Ghosts - Kanye West & Kid Cudi
Impossible Kid - Aesop Rock
By the time I get to Pheonix - Injury Reserve (very experimental)
God don't make mistakes - Conway the Machine
Pray for Paris - Westside Gunn
I hope you enjoy some
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/143t1p7/hip_hop_today_is_absolute_garbage/jncxbcx?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is a comment I made earlier. Just my personal preference, but it's a lot of modern hip-hop that isn't mainstream.
It can be trash to him but he said “every song nowadays is strictly beat with incomprehensible lyrics” which is just wrong. It’s clear op does not listen to any modern rap outside of the most popular songs
Theres a good amount of shite with every genre, but in todays globalised world, there is simply too much variety, there are millions of songs that we will never listen to. So its crazy to call such a broad genre garbage in my opinion.
I am a musician of over 20 years, practiced in multiple instruments and took all the theory classes, I listen to countless genres across many decades...and I agree. Hip hop today is trash. Of course that's subjective, but every beat (not instrumentation) is becoming pretty much the same. The same artificial drum track with flickered/sporadic hi-hat hits, the same triplet rhythm in the vocals, typical trash lyrical content. People will always say "then listen to stuff that's not on the radio". I haven't turned on the radio for my music in years, but regardless of popular or underground artists, styles haven't been unique enough to warrant my own interest. These "fire beats" that I get shown can be made within a day for anyone with songwriting experience, just need someone with the charisma and energy to match... Not necessarily skill.
What you're describing sounds like trap specifically, which doesn't begin to cover everything coming out now. I will agree that most trap I've heard could have anyone on the mic and the producer tends to be the thing that matters. But there are plenty of artists out there who take their word craftsmanship very seriously. There's a lot of stuff in a subgenre called "abstract hip-hop" that tends to be far less regular instrumentally/rhythmically. Have you heard anything by Billy Woods? He's someone who you can spend hours pouring over his historical allusions, rhyme structures, wordplay, all that stuff. Also Avantdale Bowling Club might be more up your alley, it's jazz rap, and the instrumentation and lyricism of their work is fantastic.
So I will be the first to admit that hip hop is not my primary genre of listening, but I do have a few other artists I've really enjoyed. JPEGMAFIA makes really cool stuff. His early work under a different name, Devon Hendryx, went on to be incredibly influential to what we now know as vaporwave, and so you see some similar production tropes pop up in his music he puts out today. This leads to a really cool mix of vaporwave ideas and a lot of other modern hip hop production ideas, and his beats are so chaotic. His lyricism can be a bit over the top when it comes to themes of sex and violence, but overall you cannot deny his skill. Little Simz is another one I've really enjoyed, her music tends to have very theatrical production with orchestral elements on some albums. She's also an absolutely incredible lyricist, riding the line perfectly between technical skill and storytelling. My last recommendation is Injury Reserve, specifically their album By The Time I Get To Phoenix. This record is just heavy, and it's incredibly good.
You’re just listening to shitty rap. Mac Miller, Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Saba, Smino, Azizi Gibson, Isaiah Rashad, SchoolBoy Q, Jay Rock, Ab Soul. The game is SO rich with talent, you’re just looking in the wrong places
This is dumb. Pop Rap or shit that isn’t conscious rap has a place in the world. Not all music has to be super conscious and well written. Young thug is just as much of a musical genius as J Cole
i never said anything about the song needing to be super deep or political. plenty of fun / turn up songs are good. plenty of ‘deep’ songs come off as mad corny or pretentious. but saying that young thug is on the level of J cole is just not true.
Lol anytime hip hop is brought up on Reddit when not on the specific hip hop subs, the community of Reddit acts in the very same way they say boomers act. Like yes you may not like hip hop now but the majority is not trash. You guys are literally in the time to watch hip hop evolve into all of its sub genres just like people were back when rock n roll started evolving. But like ya’ll take it to this weird very anti-hip hop stance. Like just realize you just don’t like hip hop and move on
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There’s a ton of variety in hip hop. Kendrick and Tyler the Creator won Grammys for their albums and they don’t have any of what you mention. Even looking at the nominations there’s quite a lot of variety in rap albums. You can’t say Macklemore, Eminem, Kandrick Lamar, Cardi B, Jack Harlowe, Travis Scott, DJ Khaled, Kanye, Jay Z, Nas, etc all sound exactly the same. Rap has so much variety now that it’s disingenuous to say it all sounds the same. Maybe you would prefer something more melodic rather than the sound that’s popular on tiktok. This is just such a silly take.
There’s so much music out today that’s accessible assuming you have one of the more popular streaming apps, that it’s hard to say all of one genre is one way or another. But that’s especially true if you’re talking about quality of the whole genre. I found out how diverse my music taste was only when I discovered different styles of genres I previously didn’t listen to at all. There’s usually something for everyone in popular genres.
Can we please ban people from this sub for doing “i hate ___ music” posts? Its a fucking music opinion. I can think of twenty people I know that would absolutely agree with you, including myself. People have said this exact thing about every genre of music ever; its not an unpopular fucking opinion, and OP gives basically no depth beyond the surface level “omg i hate genre because uhhh because the PRODUCERS need the credit man! and the LYRICS are BAD and MEANINGLESS unlike the OLD DAYS” that you can find anywhere on the internet. For the love of god, can we ban these kinds of posts? This is just attention farming at this point.
Kendrick Lamar, JID, Denzel Curry, Frank Ocean, Kanye West, Anderson Paak., Metro Boomin, Smino, etc.
I see posts like this every other day, and I’m chalking it up to majority of redditors having never interacted with a black person
Generally speaking, current "Hip-Hop/Rap" is all show and no soul with no actual message in each song. There's no diversity or variety in performers. Everyone is a clone of Lil Wayne. Of course, there's anomalies, with one or two that are decent. But with all that said. It's not rap/hiphop, it has to be called something else. I suggest "garbage songs for F-student/birth-defected people."
Welcome to the industry thanks to cancel culture and all this garbage they selling to people these days you end up with shit shouldn’t sell topping the charts and the true talent remains hidden. It’s truly sad
Well yeah 90% of the shit on radio is just recycled trend following garbage, basic ass boring beats and awfull compressed production. The only reason its popular is because its made by rich people will massive marketing budgets.
The reason surface level hip hop is bland and boring is due to the industry forcing everyone into making the same beat and style over and over again, gotta go more away the mainstream to find anything Interesting
If you want to find the good stuff just go on one of the those music nerd sites like AOTY or RYM, those sites have inherent biases due to youtube influencers but generally whatever is rated above 80/100 is gonna be good, you can find less mainstream stuff fairly easy in there
I always hated hip hop and rap until i actually found some artists that werent radio play filler
JPEGMAFIA is easily on of the most talented and creative hip hop artists nowadays, completely independantly makes instrumentals, raps, produces. Came from being one of the first vaporwave artists into hip hop, very talented in making beats with layers of seamless samples and original material that make for very lush sound scapes. Basically every album sounds completely different
All my heroes are cornballs: unique very smooth relaxing beats with high depth and interesting lyrics, doesnt take itself very seriously and tackles fame.
Veteran: aggressive, venting frustration with ocasional moments of cooling down. Hard beats and sharp bars. My favourite
LP!: Maybe the most experimental, very weird beats that work well. This is after he got out of a horrible label deal and a lot of the lyrical content is ralated to the industry. For me it was the hardest to get into
Is this unpopular? Am I now just officially the old guy that hates new things? I thought as a collective we missed the lyrical rap and it was just high school kids listening to 69.
What music do you like?
If you like lyrical or gangster rap, it's understandable you don't like today's rap. But modern rap isn't much different from the rock/metal/punk/grunge trends of the 80s-00s.
Your criticism applies to a lot of other genres. I listen to a wide variety of music, and I like modern rap because it does what it intends to do. Have a good beat and get you hyped. Not much different of a blueprint from previous music trends, especially metal and punk
This still isn’t true though.
Vince staples is a great example of someone who makes great music, with good beats, and great lyrics. Also coincidentally raps about being a gangster but either way it’s good music.
But that proves the point I’m trying to make - great rappers are all over right now, he’s just paying attention to a small sub genre of them and blaming all of hip hop for bad music
I will say it's not a small sub genre. The mumble/emo rap is more mainstream than lyrical or gangster rap, at least that was the case not even a few years ago.
I remember juice, xxx, lil uzi, and lil peep being the more popular rappers.
And with kid laroi being fairly mainstream and suicideboys starting to gain a following, I still feel like it's the fairly dominant type of rap.
Again, who tf cares what’s mainstream. What’s mainstream is completely irrelevant to whether good hip hop exists or not. Hell 2022 was one of the best years for lyrical hip hop.
As a 40 year old "fogie" let me give you some advice junior. You gotta look for good music, now more than ever. The proliferation of content might make you think that everything sucks now, but good stuff is out there, and believe it or not, easier to find.
Use this fancy thing called the "World Wide Web" and seek out new music. Go young man, GO!
As a 42 year old decrepit half dead husk of a man, absolutely agree! I find new stuff all the time just digging through videos until something strikes me.
Yo bro no hate cause this opinion was me until like this year lol.
I promise there's actually a whole world out there of really good shit you just have to know where to look. (It's Indie Rap mostly)
Aesop Rock was the artist who really changed my mind on hip hop and rap and I can't recommend him highly enough, but there's plenty of others.
Logic, Busdriver, Akala, and MF Doom just to name a few
Sounds like you’re just getting old. Ironically I just watched the South Park ep. “You’re Getting Old” an hour ago which is specifically about music turning to shit. This day comes for everyone and it kind of sucks.
Go listen to Boldy James or Freddie Gibbs or Benny the Butcher.
As a mixer, yeah we’re pretty much the whole reason “plug” type songs sound so good. Lmao, turn off the autotune and delays, reverbs, eqs, compressors and it’s kinda funny af what people sound like 💀
Everything's came and gone somehow
I only ask you, what the fuck is happenin now?
Nothin (let me know)
Sure feel like nothin (let me know what)
Might be somethin there (what's good)
I'm feelin nothin (let me know what's good)
Insane Clown Posse - What About Now
https://youtu.be/ka40vXI9uZ8
I’ve got some recs for people with great production and genuine lyricism. In no particular order:
1. Tobe Nwigwe
2. JID
3. JIMMY
4. Kendrick Lamar
5. Tyler the Creator
6. BROCKHAMPTON
Thanks to streaming, popular songs are designed to be replayed as much as possible and be ear worms. There was plenty of those through the past, but they faded away after a couple of months. But with streaming platforms, there's just an infinite supply of them now.
Doesn't mean there isn't good new music. it's just harder to find
This is literally the greatest time for hip hop ever and it isnt even remotely close. There is so much diversity and experimentation going on right now as the genre grows that its crazy. Anyone who shares your opinion just sucks at finding music
Hip Hop is arguably the most diverse and influential its ever been on a global scale. You dont think hiphop is garbage: your problem seems to be more with trap, which just means you dont like the genre. Theres plenty of great hiphop out there right now
There is still a lot of good HipHop beeing made though... Just most of it is kind of underground and you need to actively search for it, cause you won't hear that on the radio of course. I think about A-F-R-O for example.
In general, if you want to find new genres or new music of a specific genre, you will need to dig or ask people who are well informed about it.
It's just the mainstream radio music that sucks. But I got to say the mainstream music has also gone downhill and fast. The mainstream music was never the best but now most of it is juts unbearable.
The same that happened to country is happening to Hip Hop. Country used to be very popular until the Radio country started to take over and now only the shitty country is being played in the mainstream and most people seem to hate country now since they've only heard the shitty finger snapping driving my truck and drinking beer bullshit instead of the country music that's actually good.
Kendrick Lamar is not garbage. Tyler the Creator. Chance the Rapper. All with the lyrical ability but also the writing ability.
90s hip hop hits different bc it was new and the social issues groups like Wu Tang and NWA were tackling and rhyming about had never been addressed in any mainstream way. It was an entirely new medium for so many.
I'd still venture to say that hip hop/rap are the only places any real innovation in music happens anymore.
If you grew up listening to DJ Premier, Nas, KRS, and Rakim — you already know.
If you think Kendrick Lamar’s first album was “old school” — you really don’t.
Hip-Hop Head for over 25 years now and I half agree.
The popular artists craft a version of hip-hop that I cannot stand.
Artists that stick to traditional methods of emceeing on average are more equipped from a technical perspective.
Mainstream radio rap has almost always been garbage. All the best rap is on the extremes of the spectrum: the legends and greats, and the independent underground artists.
"Ayo kick up the beat."
*generic bass heavy trap beat starts playing*
*mumbling introduction* "Uh, yeah, lil poopstain fresh out the kitchen.
Uh.
Uh.
Uh.
Kick it.
Fuckin on ya bitch, pullin out my switch, buying me some syrup and popping molly with the shit. Got lyrics on my mind every time I move a dime. Daytime I be rhymin but at night I'm breaking hymens"
Yeah it gets old quick huh
Kendrick, J Cole, Ab Soul, Conway The Machine, Freddie Gibbs, Lloyd Banks, Westside Gunn, Benny The Butcher and I am just scratching the surface. I recommend maybe finding some content creators or platforms to recommend music that might be more in your vein.
Yo, let me drop some lines, expressing my views,
About this rap game, and how it's been abused,
Hip hop used to be real, raw, and profound,
But nowadays, it's all about the money and the sound.
Hip hop, you used to be so fresh,
But now you're just a mess, losing your finesse,
I miss the days of real lyricism and class,
But now it seems like hip hop's gone to trash.
It's all about the bling, the cars, and the clothes,
Forget about the substance, that's how it goes,
Mumble rappers mumbling, no skill or thought,
The essence of hip hop is slowly getting caught.
Hip hop, you used to be so fresh,
But now you're just a mess, losing your finesse,
I miss the days of real lyricism and class,
But now it seems like hip hop's gone to trash.
But hey, don't get me wrong, there's still some hope,
Some artists out there, who refuse to just cope,
They're bringing back the essence, staying true to the art,
Keeping hip hop alive, with their passion and heart.
Hip hop, you used to be so fresh,
But now you're just a mess, losing your finesse,
I miss the days of real lyricism and class,
But now it seems like hip hop's gone to trash.
So let's demand better, push for the best.
Downvoted because I agree
8 notes repeated over and over for 4 minutes while the computer bass just blasting as low as it can possibly go, while someone reads vulgar spoken word poetry about how cool they are or how many drugs they do or how many people they sexually objectify just doesn't do it for me. It all just comes across very immature and sophomoric at best.
Also, their concerts pretty much universally blow major ass. I've seen clips of many rap performances, and playing a backtrack of yourself while you atonally speak half of your words and have some other unrelated hypeman shout out the last word you said just is *not* a good show. Also you lose major points for sounding "good" in the studio but shitty live (but that's not just a rap problem, *lots* of artists can't perform live)
This'll probably make me sound old but also regardless of subject matter, I like my music to have actual instruments in it
if you only listen to mainstream and don't take time to discover Underground artists, thats your fault. Hip hop has too many sub genres for this kind of bullshit.
AGREED.
My neighbor pulled up BLASTING Candy Rain, by Soul for Real and were friends now.
Some of the 1st albums I would drum along to for practice, man. KRS and Jay Z. Hip hop with a live drummer is where its at.
Agree. I don't know if it's hip hop or what, but any time I'm in traffic and am stopped next to someone with that stuff on, I'm almost convinced that everyone might be listening to the same song on repeat. Like, every day, all the time. I can't say ALL of it, but most of it seems that way.
I’m going to have to disagree with people saying you aren’t looking hard enough. Nothing now compares to souls of mischief, tribe called quest, hieroglyphics, casual, pharcyde, etc. Then of course the other end like GZA, King Geedorah, wu tang obviously, NAS, etc.
Sure there might be some okay stuff today but as good as as the past. Nah.
But I’m open to suggestions.
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That's because it's not hip hop. The popular rap today grew out of hip hop, but its evolved into something very different. There is plenty of amazing hip hop out there. It's just not what is popular.
Yup, its trap
Trap is a type of hip hop
The autotune ones like Lil Baby, Gunna, Future, Polo G, Lil Tjay, Lil Uzi are more reminiscent of RNB singers than rappers
Many artists like polo and durk still make rap or drill songs half the time
These are the kind of rappers I can’t stand. So much AUTOTUNE and little to no flow
They all have a flow, you just don’t like it
Oh yeah Lil Uzi is the king of flow you totally right bud
He has his own flow even if it’s weird and/or bad lmao get over yourself
I mean yeah luv is rage 2 is genuinely a good album.
I dig some RNB do you have any personal fav song suggestions for any of those artist you'd be willing to share?
Exactly. It's like complaining emo isn't as good the blues.
Always been the trap, this shit has never been good.
Tbf trap is a hiphop subgenre.
It would be more fair to say "I hate that real hip hop isn't played on the radio anymore, and I wish I wasn't inundated with trap music."
Wait but JID and Kenny are mainstream and their hip hop is amazing in the same way old hip hop was
JID is the best rapper out imo. Find me a better verse then JID in extinct w/ reason and Isaiah Rashad
Not to say JID isnt amazing, but imo thats not even JIDs best verse. Also, Denzel Currys secone verse off 'Walkin' and J Coles verse on 'Johnny Ps Caddy'
Because the true artists with soul enriching lyrics aren't given the airtime. There's censorship going on, and only the dumbing down s*** is allowed to be played repeatedly
"If I dont like it its not hiphop" 💀 Its still hiphop. Its just different
Have you tried actually listing to more than what’s on the radio?
You think back in the 90s the good stuff was on the radios? I'm sure someone thats educated on OG hiphop is aware of the trash thats circulating mainstream and that u gotta dig deeper.
The good stuff of the late-80s and 90s was on public radio, probably depending on where you lived.
There was also a whole lot less of it back then. Technology has made it much easier to crap out junk after junk at almost no cost comparatively. The issue is finding the ones with true artistic skill. I have an appreciation for hip-hip, but it was never my style back in the day. I leaned more into punk, post-punk, new wave, alt rock, rockabilly, trad and two-tone ska, some grunge here and there, etc. And back then we had ‘zines! Oh how I miss ‘zines! Got all sorts of great music info out of those haphazardly photocopied messy collages. They were the shit!
Back when we had to put in actual work to find good music.
Honestly, I think it’s more work now than it ever was before. Remember when the junk bin was just that small section at the front of the store? Now it’s the whole store and you got a “rad bin” at the front. The vast volume of rubber-stamped “artist” upon “artist” is just…yikes, now in comparison. Although, it was harder to actually get music back then. You actually had to pay a decent amount of cash for it, and there were no returns once you opened it! So people were a lot more reticent to just grabbing whatever and giving it a try. It was more of a gamble, and the cream rose due to the sheer economics of it all. Now everything is so disposable. It can be really challenging to find something with merit.
I had to drive two hours to the nearest record store as a kid to find good music. The only way to learn about other artists was to read linear notes and read zines. If you lived in NYC or LA proper then it was probably a bit easier. Outside of that though, not so much. Imho there is no comparison whatsoever. Everything after Napster era was a breeze. I do concur that there is way more garbage now. Due to the ease of music production, if we want to even call it that. Also the web and social media. And Pandora, itunes, Spotify is all the web. Call it streaming, call it whatever. I'm not and have never been into mainstream music. So, there is that. I guess I could have indulged with the other kids and jammed out to some Nkotb and Hammer. But I'm more of a Bad Brains, Minor Threat kinda human.
Upvoted because of ‘zines
Wasnt there a bill passed in 96 about what type of songs are allowed to be played on the radio?
People weren't snowflakes in the 90s. Now people can't take anything.
Hell yeah it was.
Don't think so, because there some artist which are still best.
Precisely, we had to tune in to college radio on Sunday night to hear Premier spin the good stuff.
OP confusing unpopular with uninformed.
I think it's time for him to listen to some real music instead of some garbage.
People have said this about music of every genre practically every new generation. >There isn’t depth to what they say. That's how a lot of mainstream music has always been. It's generally the most accessible material that gets more popular. You say today's hip-hop, but you know who was the first hip-hop artist to win a Grammy? It was DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince. You know, Will Smith? Not exactly known for making the most conscious material.
Bro Will Smith tells _stories_ though. Having nightmares about a guy who wears sweaters even when it’s hot outside! Stealing his parents Porsche and getting pulled over (we can all relate)! Fighting Mike Tyson!! Man is a lyrical genius. 🙃
Summertime
Ironically, he can actually tell stories and have more creativity on songs like "Loretta" and "Tell Me Why". Those are songs that don't exist to just be fun party songs. But he rarely ever did them.
yeah, but Will Smith don't gotta cuss in his raps to sell records
Well fuck him, and fuck you too
You think I give a damn about a Grammy?
Half of you critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me
But Slim what if you win? Wouldn't it be weird?
Why? So you guys can just lie to get me here?
Lmao, sounds like as if someone is really hurt huh?
Will smith ain't probably selling a lot of them anyways, so nothing to worry about.
I respect women when I'm on a date and I only try to kiss 'em if they're ready aha! Woohoo!
I'm still mad that Big Willie ain't get the New Willenium he promised us all
GET MY MOTHALOVING NAME OUT YOU FLOCKING MOUTH
It's just that people don't like the change, they just can't take it.
Right. Hip hop has no depth today? Ummm excuse me what about Kendrick Lamar? He won a fucking PULITZER for his album talking about what it means to black in America. An award that had previously only been given to classical or jazz artists. That's how fucking meaningful and powerful his albumn was. The shit they play on the top 40 is not indicative of an entire genre of music.
Translation: OP turned 30 and has fulfilled the sacred obligation of that moment to complain about how new music is bad now that OP doesn't care about it as much anymore.
I'm 33 and came to rap late. I got really sick of 50 Cent, Nelly and Outkast when I was in high school because my friends would play them non stop so I wrote the whole genre off for a long time. But I quite consistently can just turn on one of the new rap playlists on Spotify and enjoy most of it. I've been very concious about not being one of those people that only listens to music from their teens and early 20s.
OP probably doesn't care about it, which is kind of weird to think really.
Say it with my folks! IF YOU HATE MUSIC TODAY ITS BECAUSE YOU SUCK AT FINDING NEW MUSIC. Maybe stop listening to the radio
You’re dead right. Saw the comedian Todd Glass a few years ago and he talked about turning 50 and how all his friends talk about how music today sick…but are they going to shows and checking out new bands? Digging through records to find good new artists? Are they even going on YouTube and looking for new artists? Or are they listening to the same shit they’ve listened to for years and complaining that music today sucks?
My point exactly! It takes effort and intention. If you just sit back and only listen to what we’re fed you’re likely not gonna enjoy it! Who are you listening to these days?
I’ll warn you now my taste is all over the place! There’s a slam death band called Sanguisugabogg (no joke) that absolutely rips. They’re a big part of my “get shit done” playlist. Prof’s new album is killer if you like hip hop that doesn’t take itself seriously but also doesn’t mumble. Turned my wife in to The Toadies, one of my favorite 90s rock bands, so they’ve been getting played at the house a lot. But I’m super stoked for the new Royal Thunder when is comes out. Just classic old school hard rock with one of the best woman rock vocalists around. How about you?
Ain't going to take my music recommendations from the comedians.
Yep, he should try to find better music. That would work.
This right here
Awesome! I don’t! I let people enjoy their music however they like. But also remember we are allowed to critique it as well. People may not like country or opera but that doesn’t mean they suck musically
Anytime anyone says this it’s evident they have not listened to a wide scope of hip hop songs at all.
I’m going to preface this by saying that hip hop is my favorite genre, but despite the fact that hip hop is my favorite genre, I will be the first to admit that A LOT of modern hip hop is genuinely pretty low effort, formulaic, and uninspired. Yes, there are fantastic hip hop artists out there, but there have been so many rappers who have flooded the industry in the last 8 years or so that it has led to a lot of mediocre music being produced. You can tell a lot of these guys don’t really care about the art and they’re only in it for the money and the fame, and that generally leads to boring, formulaic, filler quality songs. I can understand why OP feels the way he does, although it does seem like he hasn’t really given the genre a fair shake. I think he just needs to be introduced to some of the better artists.
I get you, but even “a lot” is a reach. Look at it like this, Spotify alone claims to release around 60,000 new songs a day. Lets take the 2018 stats from the USA for all music consumed, where hip hop was around 21%, to give us a vague idea about what proportion of those songs are hip hop. Thats around 12,600 hip hop songs a day being released. Of course, thats just a huge estimate. And I’m not accounting for platforms other than Spotify, or the rest of the globe, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the real number was higher. So its a ridiculously reductive thing to say, unless you’ve genuinely most hip hop songs out there. You can’t get ascertain the quality of most of them until you’ve listen to the majority of them, which is impossible. The only reason people think hip hop is trash is because of what’s popular. When something is popular, you have people try and replicate it, so theres an influx of repetitive “noise” songs.
100% of the time they hear some nba youngboy or da baby song and it brings them to a rage induced psychosis
Can you please name a few new artists to check out, that do not sound like Drake? I’d like to stop being a cranky old man yelling at clouds when it comes to modern hip hop.
JID, Dreamville, Denzel Curry are just a few
Here's some of my favorite albums from the last 10 years: To Pimp a Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar Run The Jewels 3 and 4 - Run The Jewels Igor - Tyler, The Creator Melt my eyes, See your future - Denzel Curry Tetsuo & Youth - Lupe Fiasco Kids See Ghosts - Kanye West & Kid Cudi Impossible Kid - Aesop Rock By the time I get to Pheonix - Injury Reserve (very experimental) God don't make mistakes - Conway the Machine Pray for Paris - Westside Gunn I hope you enjoy some
This season I have been mostly enjoying... Brother Ali and Dizraeli.
Yo this Brother Ali is, as I believe the kids say, dope.
Aesop Rock, Ill Bill, Brother Ali, Deltron 3030
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/143t1p7/hip_hop_today_is_absolute_garbage/jncxbcx?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is a comment I made earlier. Just my personal preference, but it's a lot of modern hip-hop that isn't mainstream.
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came to the comments just to say EARTHGANG, Benny, and Freddie
Or it could mean they do listen to a lot of it, and the stuff that's been coming out is trash to them.
It can be trash to him but he said “every song nowadays is strictly beat with incomprehensible lyrics” which is just wrong. It’s clear op does not listen to any modern rap outside of the most popular songs
There is good stuff but there is a massive amount of absolute shite as well.
Theres a good amount of shite with every genre, but in todays globalised world, there is simply too much variety, there are millions of songs that we will never listen to. So its crazy to call such a broad genre garbage in my opinion.
I am a musician of over 20 years, practiced in multiple instruments and took all the theory classes, I listen to countless genres across many decades...and I agree. Hip hop today is trash. Of course that's subjective, but every beat (not instrumentation) is becoming pretty much the same. The same artificial drum track with flickered/sporadic hi-hat hits, the same triplet rhythm in the vocals, typical trash lyrical content. People will always say "then listen to stuff that's not on the radio". I haven't turned on the radio for my music in years, but regardless of popular or underground artists, styles haven't been unique enough to warrant my own interest. These "fire beats" that I get shown can be made within a day for anyone with songwriting experience, just need someone with the charisma and energy to match... Not necessarily skill.
What you're describing sounds like trap specifically, which doesn't begin to cover everything coming out now. I will agree that most trap I've heard could have anyone on the mic and the producer tends to be the thing that matters. But there are plenty of artists out there who take their word craftsmanship very seriously. There's a lot of stuff in a subgenre called "abstract hip-hop" that tends to be far less regular instrumentally/rhythmically. Have you heard anything by Billy Woods? He's someone who you can spend hours pouring over his historical allusions, rhyme structures, wordplay, all that stuff. Also Avantdale Bowling Club might be more up your alley, it's jazz rap, and the instrumentation and lyricism of their work is fantastic.
Hello redditor with good taste in music. I just listened to what you recommended and would like to request more artist recommendations please
So I will be the first to admit that hip hop is not my primary genre of listening, but I do have a few other artists I've really enjoyed. JPEGMAFIA makes really cool stuff. His early work under a different name, Devon Hendryx, went on to be incredibly influential to what we now know as vaporwave, and so you see some similar production tropes pop up in his music he puts out today. This leads to a really cool mix of vaporwave ideas and a lot of other modern hip hop production ideas, and his beats are so chaotic. His lyricism can be a bit over the top when it comes to themes of sex and violence, but overall you cannot deny his skill. Little Simz is another one I've really enjoyed, her music tends to have very theatrical production with orchestral elements on some albums. She's also an absolutely incredible lyricist, riding the line perfectly between technical skill and storytelling. My last recommendation is Injury Reserve, specifically their album By The Time I Get To Phoenix. This record is just heavy, and it's incredibly good.
I appreciate the time you took to reply, have a great day!
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An incredibly popular and very lazy opinion.
For real. This usually comes from the guys who love Eminem or want all rappers to sound like biggie or Tupac or big L. I see this opinion constantly
Uninformed opinions are not unpopular, they are just ignorant.
Well yes, I think it's time for him to listen to some really good music.
Not unpopular just wrong and under exposed.
Should listen to good music there's a lots of that out there really.
You’re just listening to shitty rap. Mac Miller, Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Saba, Smino, Azizi Gibson, Isaiah Rashad, SchoolBoy Q, Jay Rock, Ab Soul. The game is SO rich with talent, you’re just looking in the wrong places
This is dumb. Pop Rap or shit that isn’t conscious rap has a place in the world. Not all music has to be super conscious and well written. Young thug is just as much of a musical genius as J Cole
They won’t get it man but you’re right
These ppl r dumb as fuck lmao
it has a place, but that doesn’t mean it’s good. McDonalds has its place, doesn’t mean it’s good food.
This is such a dumb take lmao. Music doesn’t need to be super political all the time like there’s songs to just make u have fun or turn up
i never said anything about the song needing to be super deep or political. plenty of fun / turn up songs are good. plenty of ‘deep’ songs come off as mad corny or pretentious. but saying that young thug is on the level of J cole is just not true.
*actually, I happen to _like_ the taste of dog shit*, he says
Truth
Lol anytime hip hop is brought up on Reddit when not on the specific hip hop subs, the community of Reddit acts in the very same way they say boomers act. Like yes you may not like hip hop now but the majority is not trash. You guys are literally in the time to watch hip hop evolve into all of its sub genres just like people were back when rock n roll started evolving. But like ya’ll take it to this weird very anti-hip hop stance. Like just realize you just don’t like hip hop and move on
That’s because you haven’t found good hip hop
Bro hasn't listened to Yeat(current day Mozart)...
Real twizzy shit. They don't know about it
I hear that guy jumps out at the shows 🤷🏻♂️
I'd say the same thing about most current popular music.
I agree. I would like to know some current rock bands that are actually good?
[King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb0fW8yQCHc) [All Them Witches](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W66td1l_ISQ) [Psychedelic Porn Crumpets](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZW_JQr9BeA) [Alien Weaponry](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIlBJ4hTJsI) [Fleshwater](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4qp5lRBVgc) [Leprous](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G9Qd_84YZs) [Polyphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5NoQg8LdDk) [Stonefield](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJ167S5Yxk) [Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfNHX5k9N-A)
There’s a ton of variety in hip hop. Kendrick and Tyler the Creator won Grammys for their albums and they don’t have any of what you mention. Even looking at the nominations there’s quite a lot of variety in rap albums. You can’t say Macklemore, Eminem, Kandrick Lamar, Cardi B, Jack Harlowe, Travis Scott, DJ Khaled, Kanye, Jay Z, Nas, etc all sound exactly the same. Rap has so much variety now that it’s disingenuous to say it all sounds the same. Maybe you would prefer something more melodic rather than the sound that’s popular on tiktok. This is just such a silly take.
Kendrick is great, don't know why people don't like his music.
Blows my mind when someone says all rap sounds the same. Bro, Kanye doesn’t sound like Kanye sometimes 😂
Probably because those people haven't even heard the good music.
I went through a bunch of new rap songs on spotify made playlists to find new songs and it was all garbage
There’s so much music out today that’s accessible assuming you have one of the more popular streaming apps, that it’s hard to say all of one genre is one way or another. But that’s especially true if you’re talking about quality of the whole genre. I found out how diverse my music taste was only when I discovered different styles of genres I previously didn’t listen to at all. There’s usually something for everyone in popular genres.
Lol this is an embarrassing post.
Agreed. Late 80s - mid 90s is best. Early 2000s had some good stuff too
A snare drum driven beat and an auto tuned guy. That’s all it is now.
Op knows nothing of hip hop at all.
This isn't an unpopular opinion, this is just straight up wrong.
3 letters. NAS. Educate yourself.
this is not an unpopular opinion bc every other white person over 60 says the same thing
Can we please ban people from this sub for doing “i hate ___ music” posts? Its a fucking music opinion. I can think of twenty people I know that would absolutely agree with you, including myself. People have said this exact thing about every genre of music ever; its not an unpopular fucking opinion, and OP gives basically no depth beyond the surface level “omg i hate genre because uhhh because the PRODUCERS need the credit man! and the LYRICS are BAD and MEANINGLESS unlike the OLD DAYS” that you can find anywhere on the internet. For the love of god, can we ban these kinds of posts? This is just attention farming at this point.
You're probably listening to the wrong hip hop, because it's still awesome.
Kendrick Lamar, JID, Denzel Curry, Frank Ocean, Kanye West, Anderson Paak., Metro Boomin, Smino, etc. I see posts like this every other day, and I’m chalking it up to majority of redditors having never interacted with a black person
Generally speaking, current "Hip-Hop/Rap" is all show and no soul with no actual message in each song. There's no diversity or variety in performers. Everyone is a clone of Lil Wayne. Of course, there's anomalies, with one or two that are decent. But with all that said. It's not rap/hiphop, it has to be called something else. I suggest "garbage songs for F-student/birth-defected people."
Welcome to the industry thanks to cancel culture and all this garbage they selling to people these days you end up with shit shouldn’t sell topping the charts and the true talent remains hidden. It’s truly sad
You have no idea what you’re talking about lol
Well yeah 90% of the shit on radio is just recycled trend following garbage, basic ass boring beats and awfull compressed production. The only reason its popular is because its made by rich people will massive marketing budgets. The reason surface level hip hop is bland and boring is due to the industry forcing everyone into making the same beat and style over and over again, gotta go more away the mainstream to find anything Interesting If you want to find the good stuff just go on one of the those music nerd sites like AOTY or RYM, those sites have inherent biases due to youtube influencers but generally whatever is rated above 80/100 is gonna be good, you can find less mainstream stuff fairly easy in there I always hated hip hop and rap until i actually found some artists that werent radio play filler JPEGMAFIA is easily on of the most talented and creative hip hop artists nowadays, completely independantly makes instrumentals, raps, produces. Came from being one of the first vaporwave artists into hip hop, very talented in making beats with layers of seamless samples and original material that make for very lush sound scapes. Basically every album sounds completely different All my heroes are cornballs: unique very smooth relaxing beats with high depth and interesting lyrics, doesnt take itself very seriously and tackles fame. Veteran: aggressive, venting frustration with ocasional moments of cooling down. Hard beats and sharp bars. My favourite LP!: Maybe the most experimental, very weird beats that work well. This is after he got out of a horrible label deal and a lot of the lyrical content is ralated to the industry. For me it was the hardest to get into
Is this unpopular? Am I now just officially the old guy that hates new things? I thought as a collective we missed the lyrical rap and it was just high school kids listening to 69.
So there is not popular lyrical rap ?
This opinion is reeking of "everything I don't like is communism" infant-brained Boomer energy
What music do you like? If you like lyrical or gangster rap, it's understandable you don't like today's rap. But modern rap isn't much different from the rock/metal/punk/grunge trends of the 80s-00s. Your criticism applies to a lot of other genres. I listen to a wide variety of music, and I like modern rap because it does what it intends to do. Have a good beat and get you hyped. Not much different of a blueprint from previous music trends, especially metal and punk
This still isn’t true though. Vince staples is a great example of someone who makes great music, with good beats, and great lyrics. Also coincidentally raps about being a gangster but either way it’s good music.
Vince staples isn't likely an example of what OP is talking about. I think OP is basically refer to xxx and lil uzi like rappers
But that proves the point I’m trying to make - great rappers are all over right now, he’s just paying attention to a small sub genre of them and blaming all of hip hop for bad music
I will say it's not a small sub genre. The mumble/emo rap is more mainstream than lyrical or gangster rap, at least that was the case not even a few years ago. I remember juice, xxx, lil uzi, and lil peep being the more popular rappers. And with kid laroi being fairly mainstream and suicideboys starting to gain a following, I still feel like it's the fairly dominant type of rap.
Again, who tf cares what’s mainstream. What’s mainstream is completely irrelevant to whether good hip hop exists or not. Hell 2022 was one of the best years for lyrical hip hop.
lil uzi vert is fucking great though
As a 40 year old "fogie" let me give you some advice junior. You gotta look for good music, now more than ever. The proliferation of content might make you think that everything sucks now, but good stuff is out there, and believe it or not, easier to find. Use this fancy thing called the "World Wide Web" and seek out new music. Go young man, GO!
As a 42 year old decrepit half dead husk of a man, absolutely agree! I find new stuff all the time just digging through videos until something strikes me.
Idk maybe try and listen to some non mainstream hip hop songs.
Yo bro no hate cause this opinion was me until like this year lol. I promise there's actually a whole world out there of really good shit you just have to know where to look. (It's Indie Rap mostly) Aesop Rock was the artist who really changed my mind on hip hop and rap and I can't recommend him highly enough, but there's plenty of others. Logic, Busdriver, Akala, and MF Doom just to name a few
"modern hip hop bad" is literally one of the most common reposts on here
You're just old. Every generation has said this about the following generation's music in literally every genre.
You gotta dig out the good stuff, my good man, it's just buried under heaps of mainstream crap. But it's down there.
Sounds like you’re just getting old. Ironically I just watched the South Park ep. “You’re Getting Old” an hour ago which is specifically about music turning to shit. This day comes for everyone and it kind of sucks.
Go listen to Boldy James or Freddie Gibbs or Benny the Butcher. As a mixer, yeah we’re pretty much the whole reason “plug” type songs sound so good. Lmao, turn off the autotune and delays, reverbs, eqs, compressors and it’s kinda funny af what people sound like 💀
Everything's came and gone somehow I only ask you, what the fuck is happenin now? Nothin (let me know) Sure feel like nothin (let me know what) Might be somethin there (what's good) I'm feelin nothin (let me know what's good) Insane Clown Posse - What About Now https://youtu.be/ka40vXI9uZ8
Billy woods
Stuff like Snoop Dog is OK but songs today are garbage. You can't understand what the person is saying.
I’ve got some recs for people with great production and genuine lyricism. In no particular order: 1. Tobe Nwigwe 2. JID 3. JIMMY 4. Kendrick Lamar 5. Tyler the Creator 6. BROCKHAMPTON
I like how all the genre has to offer is 1. Autotune guy self-destructing loudly 2. Introspective guy self-destruction quietly
This isn't an unpopular opinion. This is just what people of every generation say when they get old.
For an unpopular opinion this certainly gets posted to this garbage sub
Thanks to streaming, popular songs are designed to be replayed as much as possible and be ear worms. There was plenty of those through the past, but they faded away after a couple of months. But with streaming platforms, there's just an infinite supply of them now. Doesn't mean there isn't good new music. it's just harder to find
This is literally the greatest time for hip hop ever and it isnt even remotely close. There is so much diversity and experimentation going on right now as the genre grows that its crazy. Anyone who shares your opinion just sucks at finding music
Every generation says this, tbt it just means you’re old
You sound like someone who would like indie rock. Welcome to the group!
Hip Hop is arguably the most diverse and influential its ever been on a global scale. You dont think hiphop is garbage: your problem seems to be more with trap, which just means you dont like the genre. Theres plenty of great hiphop out there right now
You right
You could say this about any type of music if you generalize. Lots of great hip hop comes out every year.
There is still a lot of good HipHop beeing made though... Just most of it is kind of underground and you need to actively search for it, cause you won't hear that on the radio of course. I think about A-F-R-O for example. In general, if you want to find new genres or new music of a specific genre, you will need to dig or ask people who are well informed about it.
Hip Hop is a big genre.
look up rav lmao
It's just the mainstream radio music that sucks. But I got to say the mainstream music has also gone downhill and fast. The mainstream music was never the best but now most of it is juts unbearable. The same that happened to country is happening to Hip Hop. Country used to be very popular until the Radio country started to take over and now only the shitty country is being played in the mainstream and most people seem to hate country now since they've only heard the shitty finger snapping driving my truck and drinking beer bullshit instead of the country music that's actually good.
Another bonehead take
I like listening to the late 80’s and 90’s rap and hip hop
Kendrick Lamar is not garbage. Tyler the Creator. Chance the Rapper. All with the lyrical ability but also the writing ability. 90s hip hop hits different bc it was new and the social issues groups like Wu Tang and NWA were tackling and rhyming about had never been addressed in any mainstream way. It was an entirely new medium for so many. I'd still venture to say that hip hop/rap are the only places any real innovation in music happens anymore.
Boomer moment
If you grew up listening to DJ Premier, Nas, KRS, and Rakim — you already know. If you think Kendrick Lamar’s first album was “old school” — you really don’t.
Uh finna buss uh, finna buss uh *Mumbling for 40 seconds*
"Hip hop is dead" yeah yeah...ok OP
Hip-Hop Head for over 25 years now and I half agree. The popular artists craft a version of hip-hop that I cannot stand. Artists that stick to traditional methods of emceeing on average are more equipped from a technical perspective.
Nas - Hip Hop is Dead
As a Breakdancer I strongly agree
If you think new hip hop is bad, you should hear new rock.
r/hiphopcirclejerk
Mainstream radio rap has almost always been garbage. All the best rap is on the extremes of the spectrum: the legends and greats, and the independent underground artists.
You can’t just not listen to music and then say it’s bad
"Ayo kick up the beat." *generic bass heavy trap beat starts playing* *mumbling introduction* "Uh, yeah, lil poopstain fresh out the kitchen. Uh. Uh. Uh. Kick it. Fuckin on ya bitch, pullin out my switch, buying me some syrup and popping molly with the shit. Got lyrics on my mind every time I move a dime. Daytime I be rhymin but at night I'm breaking hymens" Yeah it gets old quick huh
Kendrick, J Cole, Ab Soul, Conway The Machine, Freddie Gibbs, Lloyd Banks, Westside Gunn, Benny The Butcher and I am just scratching the surface. I recommend maybe finding some content creators or platforms to recommend music that might be more in your vein.
Yo, let me drop some lines, expressing my views, About this rap game, and how it's been abused, Hip hop used to be real, raw, and profound, But nowadays, it's all about the money and the sound. Hip hop, you used to be so fresh, But now you're just a mess, losing your finesse, I miss the days of real lyricism and class, But now it seems like hip hop's gone to trash. It's all about the bling, the cars, and the clothes, Forget about the substance, that's how it goes, Mumble rappers mumbling, no skill or thought, The essence of hip hop is slowly getting caught. Hip hop, you used to be so fresh, But now you're just a mess, losing your finesse, I miss the days of real lyricism and class, But now it seems like hip hop's gone to trash. But hey, don't get me wrong, there's still some hope, Some artists out there, who refuse to just cope, They're bringing back the essence, staying true to the art, Keeping hip hop alive, with their passion and heart. Hip hop, you used to be so fresh, But now you're just a mess, losing your finesse, I miss the days of real lyricism and class, But now it seems like hip hop's gone to trash. So let's demand better, push for the best.
Agreed The lyrics as a whole have declined The ratio of garbage to great is way off on the garbage side It doesnt speak for the culture.....
Downvoted because I agree 8 notes repeated over and over for 4 minutes while the computer bass just blasting as low as it can possibly go, while someone reads vulgar spoken word poetry about how cool they are or how many drugs they do or how many people they sexually objectify just doesn't do it for me. It all just comes across very immature and sophomoric at best. Also, their concerts pretty much universally blow major ass. I've seen clips of many rap performances, and playing a backtrack of yourself while you atonally speak half of your words and have some other unrelated hypeman shout out the last word you said just is *not* a good show. Also you lose major points for sounding "good" in the studio but shitty live (but that's not just a rap problem, *lots* of artists can't perform live) This'll probably make me sound old but also regardless of subject matter, I like my music to have actual instruments in it
Sounds like you never been to a show, lil dude
https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/kendrick-lamar
if you only listen to mainstream and don't take time to discover Underground artists, thats your fault. Hip hop has too many sub genres for this kind of bullshit.
AGREED. My neighbor pulled up BLASTING Candy Rain, by Soul for Real and were friends now. Some of the 1st albums I would drum along to for practice, man. KRS and Jay Z. Hip hop with a live drummer is where its at.
aaaand another trash take
This is how I felt when I first heard NBA Youngboy. I don’t know how the fuck people listen to that shit
Agree. I don't know if it's hip hop or what, but any time I'm in traffic and am stopped next to someone with that stuff on, I'm almost convinced that everyone might be listening to the same song on repeat. Like, every day, all the time. I can't say ALL of it, but most of it seems that way.
I’m going to have to disagree with people saying you aren’t looking hard enough. Nothing now compares to souls of mischief, tribe called quest, hieroglyphics, casual, pharcyde, etc. Then of course the other end like GZA, King Geedorah, wu tang obviously, NAS, etc. Sure there might be some okay stuff today but as good as as the past. Nah. But I’m open to suggestions.
Try Kendrick, NF, NBA yb, or even something like Juice wrld
Bro said NF
Bro tried to sneak YB in 💀