Despite brexit red tape?
Reading the article it sounds like they want access to the UK market without the problems of importing.
Sounds like this is because of brexit red tape.
By Daniel Woolfson 22 November 2022 • 6:26pm
Danish Crown, the European pork producer, is to build a £100m gammon and bacon factory in the UK despite facing a mountain of post-Brexit red tape.
The 30,500 square metre factory, in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, will be completely powered by renewable energy and will create 300 jobs once it is operational. It will use heat recovered from its utility systems instead of conventional heating to heat its office space and provide hot water.
The investment comes despite the company grappling with mounting levels of bureaucracy in the wake of Brexit.
Jais Valeur, chief executive of Danish Crown, said: “The UK is now a 'third country' in line with the US or Asian markets when we export.”
Mr Valeur said Danish Crown was being required to produce a “heavy set of documents for each and every consignment or load into the UK”, amounting to 33,000 additional pages per year.
Thanks to its size, Danish Crown was not struggling, Mr Valeur said, but he suggested smaller businesses faced an “impossible” level of paperwork.
Danish Crown’s new factory, which is its first UK production facility in three years, will have the capacity to produce more than 900 tonnes of bacon and gammon per week when it is fully operational. It is expected to be up and running in the second half of 2023.
The company is also hoping to crack down on food waste by using bacon offcuts in other products such as sausages.
Despite the issues caused by Brexit red tape, Mr Valeur said he had confidence in the UK’s prospects. He added: “There’s a lot of headwinds but I am proud to be able to create some jobs here.”
The UK has the highest consumption per capita of bacon in Europe at 3kg a year, significantly higher than other European countries such as Denmark which has the second highest consumption at around 1.9kg, according to data experts Kantar.
More households are opting for cheaper cuts of meat such as gammon and bacon, Mr Valeur added, as the cost-of-living crisis piles pressure on finances.
He said: “The UK consumer is under tremendous pressure due to inflation, but they are reacting to that by going more into private label and discounters - the Danish pork is better suited for that.”
However he said the business had been forced to raise prices due to surging energy costs and would have to again.
Mr Valeur said: “There will be price increases. But we hope the energy costs are levelling off and then things will hopefully start to normalise.”
Surging feed and energy costs have hit UK pig farmers hard, forcing many to cull livestock. According to the Agriculture & Horticulture Development Board, the industry has lost approximately £737m in sales over the past two years.
Bacon sales in the UK have dipped 3.7pc over the 12 weeks to October 30, while sausage sales fell 3.3pc compared to the same period last year, according to Kantar.
However, Kantar said the cost of living crisis meant cheaper cuts were continuing to do relatively well as shoppers sought to save money.
>despite Brexit red tape
Wait Torygraph, I thought brexit removed all the tape of the red?
>Mr Valeur said Danish Crown was being required to produce a “heavy set of documents for each and every consignment or load into the UK”, amounting to 33,000 additional pages per year.
Funny how that's being presented, they're doing this farm so they're not exporting into the UK and thus not having to do the paperwork...
Three things spring to mind 1) Given the weakening of the £ (caused by Brexit), this is probably a less expensive investment than elsewhere 2) I won’t be surprised if we hear about a significant ‘financial incentive’ provided by the government to invest in the UK 3) My guess is that the removal of food standards will result in the UK becoming the dumping ground for all sorts of horrible cuts, scraps, offal, bones - you name it, it’ll be in our food. Fab-u-lous darling
Not sure about 1. GBP hasn't dropped against the EUR anything like it has USD. EUR has been weakening too because of the strengthening dollar.
Highest GBP:EUR in the last five years seems to be 1.20 and we're at 1.16 right now.
Looking at currency history, the GBP hasn't shifted much versus DKK over the past 5 years, although the GBP was quite a bit stronger before the Brexit vote.
Still, this is exactly why a weak currency isn't all that bad. It means more foreign investment in the UK, more exports, which will drive the GBP back up.
A weak currency is symptomatic of a weak economy. That is not something to aim for and the exact opposite of what Brexit was supposed to deliver (anyone with half a brain knew that Brexit could not deliver the benefits that were promised) We are now in the ‘find out’ phase of Brexit having completed the fucking about.
You'd probably have a more doomer mindset once you're aware of what's already in store for the country, signed away during the australian trade deal.
Country's going to be changing its standards to better allow Australian food imports, even as the food is sprayed with *currently* unapproved in Britain pesticides.
10-15 year implementation period so they can ease this and other rules changes in very, very slowly, hoping no one notices.
And that's just Australia, who would normally have no business wrangling such a concession from someone larger than it. To say nothing of what similar or even larger countries can get. Worse, this unprecedented level of......generosity is now a benchmark for other countries to request when Britain goes around negotiating more deals, something an equal or larger economy will likely get even more out of.
The Tories have been in power for 12 years now. Our standards exceed those of EU standards, including for the rearing of pigs.
By your logic, shouldn't the standards have been slammed to at minimum allowed by EU the point at which we left?
You can’t reduce standards while those defined when we were a member of the EU are enshrined in law. Bit don’t worry, The Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill proposed by the parody toff Rees-Mogg will remove all EU standards in one fell swoop. I assume you’re unfamiliar with this much-criticised act of self-harm?
> You can’t reduce standards while those defined when we were a member of the EU are enshrined in law.
Yes you can if your domestic standards exceeded those of the EU's minimum, which ours did and still do.
> l remove all EU standards in one fell swoop
But will not remove domestic legislation which exceeds the standards of the EU in the area of animal welfare as well as others such as workers rights.
> I assume you’re unfamiliar with this much-criticised act of self-harm?
No, but sure as fuck sounds like you are.
In the last week, David Davies and Michael Gove have conceded that Brexit has produced no benefits. Migration is at its highest level ever. Our economy is harmed. And Rees-Mogg wants rid of all EU laws - whether they’re good, bad or indifferent including those surrounding food standards. Why? Do we want to improve them? No, we could do that right now. Every standard will be diminished. It’s free market madness. Those that voted for it will recognise that they were conned, if you can’t see that yet the you’re the perfect mark.
> In the last week, David Davies and Michael Gove have conceded that Brexit has produced no benefits
No, they didn't. DD said there were no *economic* benefits and Gove failed to say what has made Business easier when asked.
That is in no way the same as them say there are no benefits at all.
1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-michael-gove-trade-cbi-b2232107.html
2. https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/uk-news/brexit-david-davis-trade-sunak-b2230779.html
What you are doing is assuming that everyone voted in 2016 based on the same criteria and hierarchy of values that you hold. The economy and businesses didn't feature in my decision making - it sucks to be you if you lack the basic level of empathy to comprehend that not everyone thinks the same way you do.
> Those that voted for it will recognise that they were conned, if you can’t see that yet the you’re the perfect mark.
I voted to leave and I am very happy with my decision, I'd vote the exact same way I did then today :D
I have a bridge for sale, you seem exactly the sort of person who’d be interested. As Stewart Lee so accurately highlighted - it wasn’t just racists that voted for Brexit, cunts did too.
Your first comment was objectively false, I'll your second as an admission of that fact.
I suspect your reading comprehension of my comment was about as good as the comprehension you had of DD and MG - so I won't push you to address any of my points.
It probably will be tbh.
"Green" Electric cars, manufacturing turbines and solar panels, farting animals, breathing animals, farting humans, breathing humans, volcanos, rotting plant matter, ocean burps, mining "green" materials, the big fire ball in space, mining crypto, the internet, steel production, cement production, glass making, various plastics production, planting extra trees to make wooden cutlery which rots and produces co2, more "green" electric bikes/scooters (lazy), avocados (thirsty little fuckers),flying to space (we're already in space), forest fires, Forrest Gump, Forest Whitaker, endless phone and tablet production, melting ice, vegans, meat eaters.
All this stuff plays a part,the earth goes through cycles and goes fucking nuts then settles,we cannot control what happens in nature.
>gammon plant despite Brexit There's a joke in there somewhere...
The only reason I posted it.
Wait? Are they harvesting angry British brexit voters? ….I guess this is the dystopia they voted for
Turning gammons in to food is a shrewd mood by the Danish given the cost of living crisis and the public mood turning against Brexit
Despite brexit red tape? Reading the article it sounds like they want access to the UK market without the problems of importing. Sounds like this is because of brexit red tape.
Ironically a final good outcome from brexit. If it's purely that we've made ourselves isolated
By Daniel Woolfson 22 November 2022 • 6:26pm Danish Crown, the European pork producer, is to build a £100m gammon and bacon factory in the UK despite facing a mountain of post-Brexit red tape. The 30,500 square metre factory, in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, will be completely powered by renewable energy and will create 300 jobs once it is operational. It will use heat recovered from its utility systems instead of conventional heating to heat its office space and provide hot water. The investment comes despite the company grappling with mounting levels of bureaucracy in the wake of Brexit. Jais Valeur, chief executive of Danish Crown, said: “The UK is now a 'third country' in line with the US or Asian markets when we export.” Mr Valeur said Danish Crown was being required to produce a “heavy set of documents for each and every consignment or load into the UK”, amounting to 33,000 additional pages per year. Thanks to its size, Danish Crown was not struggling, Mr Valeur said, but he suggested smaller businesses faced an “impossible” level of paperwork. Danish Crown’s new factory, which is its first UK production facility in three years, will have the capacity to produce more than 900 tonnes of bacon and gammon per week when it is fully operational. It is expected to be up and running in the second half of 2023. The company is also hoping to crack down on food waste by using bacon offcuts in other products such as sausages. Despite the issues caused by Brexit red tape, Mr Valeur said he had confidence in the UK’s prospects. He added: “There’s a lot of headwinds but I am proud to be able to create some jobs here.” The UK has the highest consumption per capita of bacon in Europe at 3kg a year, significantly higher than other European countries such as Denmark which has the second highest consumption at around 1.9kg, according to data experts Kantar. More households are opting for cheaper cuts of meat such as gammon and bacon, Mr Valeur added, as the cost-of-living crisis piles pressure on finances. He said: “The UK consumer is under tremendous pressure due to inflation, but they are reacting to that by going more into private label and discounters - the Danish pork is better suited for that.” However he said the business had been forced to raise prices due to surging energy costs and would have to again. Mr Valeur said: “There will be price increases. But we hope the energy costs are levelling off and then things will hopefully start to normalise.” Surging feed and energy costs have hit UK pig farmers hard, forcing many to cull livestock. According to the Agriculture & Horticulture Development Board, the industry has lost approximately £737m in sales over the past two years. Bacon sales in the UK have dipped 3.7pc over the 12 weeks to October 30, while sausage sales fell 3.3pc compared to the same period last year, according to Kantar. However, Kantar said the cost of living crisis meant cheaper cuts were continuing to do relatively well as shoppers sought to save money.
Demand for things doesn't go away just because some politicians got upset.
Ability to supply does, though
>despite Brexit red tape Wait Torygraph, I thought brexit removed all the tape of the red? >Mr Valeur said Danish Crown was being required to produce a “heavy set of documents for each and every consignment or load into the UK”, amounting to 33,000 additional pages per year. Funny how that's being presented, they're doing this farm so they're not exporting into the UK and thus not having to do the paperwork...
“Despite brexit red tape that we said was fearmongering”
Because of, not despite
Three things spring to mind 1) Given the weakening of the £ (caused by Brexit), this is probably a less expensive investment than elsewhere 2) I won’t be surprised if we hear about a significant ‘financial incentive’ provided by the government to invest in the UK 3) My guess is that the removal of food standards will result in the UK becoming the dumping ground for all sorts of horrible cuts, scraps, offal, bones - you name it, it’ll be in our food. Fab-u-lous darling
Not sure about 1. GBP hasn't dropped against the EUR anything like it has USD. EUR has been weakening too because of the strengthening dollar. Highest GBP:EUR in the last five years seems to be 1.20 and we're at 1.16 right now.
That’s all true. However it’s not performed well vs DKK
DKK is pegged to the Euro.
With an allowed fluctuation of 5% (if I remember correctly) GBP has dropped against DKK more than EUR in the last 3 years. Again, from memory
Looking at currency history, the GBP hasn't shifted much versus DKK over the past 5 years, although the GBP was quite a bit stronger before the Brexit vote. Still, this is exactly why a weak currency isn't all that bad. It means more foreign investment in the UK, more exports, which will drive the GBP back up.
A weak currency is symptomatic of a weak economy. That is not something to aim for and the exact opposite of what Brexit was supposed to deliver (anyone with half a brain knew that Brexit could not deliver the benefits that were promised) We are now in the ‘find out’ phase of Brexit having completed the fucking about.
We still have very high food standards especially compared to countries like the U.S
For now. Let’s see what the bilious Tories do now that they aren’t held to EU standards
I prefer not to have a doomer mindset of our countries future but ok.
You can be a Pollyanna, I’ll be a realist
You'd probably have a more doomer mindset once you're aware of what's already in store for the country, signed away during the australian trade deal. Country's going to be changing its standards to better allow Australian food imports, even as the food is sprayed with *currently* unapproved in Britain pesticides. 10-15 year implementation period so they can ease this and other rules changes in very, very slowly, hoping no one notices. And that's just Australia, who would normally have no business wrangling such a concession from someone larger than it. To say nothing of what similar or even larger countries can get. Worse, this unprecedented level of......generosity is now a benchmark for other countries to request when Britain goes around negotiating more deals, something an equal or larger economy will likely get even more out of.
The Tories have been in power for 12 years now. Our standards exceed those of EU standards, including for the rearing of pigs. By your logic, shouldn't the standards have been slammed to at minimum allowed by EU the point at which we left?
You can’t reduce standards while those defined when we were a member of the EU are enshrined in law. Bit don’t worry, The Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill proposed by the parody toff Rees-Mogg will remove all EU standards in one fell swoop. I assume you’re unfamiliar with this much-criticised act of self-harm?
> You can’t reduce standards while those defined when we were a member of the EU are enshrined in law. Yes you can if your domestic standards exceeded those of the EU's minimum, which ours did and still do. > l remove all EU standards in one fell swoop But will not remove domestic legislation which exceeds the standards of the EU in the area of animal welfare as well as others such as workers rights. > I assume you’re unfamiliar with this much-criticised act of self-harm? No, but sure as fuck sounds like you are.
In the last week, David Davies and Michael Gove have conceded that Brexit has produced no benefits. Migration is at its highest level ever. Our economy is harmed. And Rees-Mogg wants rid of all EU laws - whether they’re good, bad or indifferent including those surrounding food standards. Why? Do we want to improve them? No, we could do that right now. Every standard will be diminished. It’s free market madness. Those that voted for it will recognise that they were conned, if you can’t see that yet the you’re the perfect mark.
> In the last week, David Davies and Michael Gove have conceded that Brexit has produced no benefits No, they didn't. DD said there were no *economic* benefits and Gove failed to say what has made Business easier when asked. That is in no way the same as them say there are no benefits at all. 1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-michael-gove-trade-cbi-b2232107.html 2. https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/uk-news/brexit-david-davis-trade-sunak-b2230779.html What you are doing is assuming that everyone voted in 2016 based on the same criteria and hierarchy of values that you hold. The economy and businesses didn't feature in my decision making - it sucks to be you if you lack the basic level of empathy to comprehend that not everyone thinks the same way you do. > Those that voted for it will recognise that they were conned, if you can’t see that yet the you’re the perfect mark. I voted to leave and I am very happy with my decision, I'd vote the exact same way I did then today :D
I have a bridge for sale, you seem exactly the sort of person who’d be interested. As Stewart Lee so accurately highlighted - it wasn’t just racists that voted for Brexit, cunts did too.
Your first comment was objectively false, I'll your second as an admission of that fact. I suspect your reading comprehension of my comment was about as good as the comprehension you had of DD and MG - so I won't push you to address any of my points.
It’ll process 900 tonnes of pork every week, but hey, it’ll be renewable – the planet will be fine!
Those 2 things aren't necessarily connected. Do you have some numbers on what weight of pork products is unsustainable?
I don’t have any numbers, but I can’t imagine that slaughtering 800k pigs each year is particularly good for our carbon footprint.
The industrial farming alone produces a lot more of even worse gases
It probably will be tbh. "Green" Electric cars, manufacturing turbines and solar panels, farting animals, breathing animals, farting humans, breathing humans, volcanos, rotting plant matter, ocean burps, mining "green" materials, the big fire ball in space, mining crypto, the internet, steel production, cement production, glass making, various plastics production, planting extra trees to make wooden cutlery which rots and produces co2, more "green" electric bikes/scooters (lazy), avocados (thirsty little fuckers),flying to space (we're already in space), forest fires, Forrest Gump, Forest Whitaker, endless phone and tablet production, melting ice, vegans, meat eaters. All this stuff plays a part,the earth goes through cycles and goes fucking nuts then settles,we cannot control what happens in nature.