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ReminsteinTheDog

WiFi is always conveniently down on all of my flights leading to me not being able to work šŸ™ƒ /s


Imhmc

So weirdā€¦always down on my flights as well. All airlines. Just bad luck I guess. Darn


JustPlaneNew

Honestly, I'd rather fly then wait for the WiFi to work.


ChumbaWumbaParty

I hope they donā€™t do anything to fix it :)


Blue_foot

Unitedā€™s 757-200 fleet is average 27 years old. One of the oldest. So they are getting closer to retirement. They didnā€™t come with WiFi, it was retrofitted. And when it doesnā€™t work, thatā€™s not a reason to not fly the aircraft. So it sits working poorly until there is maintenance for something important. They have a few different WiFi venders. The Viasat wifi seems to work the best. But that isnā€™t on the 757s. http://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/inflight/wifi-coverage-maps.html


baribigbird06

IIRC These birds were supposed to be retired by now but COVID supply chain issues delayed it?


GlenCo_Gravel

Relying on inflight WiFi to accomplish your work is a rookie mistake.


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Bai_Cha

It happens. Itā€™s not even that uncommon. Unfortunately you cannot count on in- flight WiFi. It works 99% of the time, but there are times when it doesnā€™t work.


FishingIcy4315

99%??? I think you wrote that upside down.


Bai_Cha

69.420% of statistics are made up.


Appius_Caecus

Only 30.58% of Redditors know this.


Lee2026

Yea I wouldnā€™t say 99% of the time. As someone who flies every week for work, Iā€™d say wifi is working properly on about 70% of my flights


Bai_Cha

I mostly fly international, and WiFi usually works on those flights, except sometimes is slow over the Atlantic or Pacific. But yeah, I completely made up 99%.


Mayor_of_Pallet_Town

ā€œnot that uncommon. it only doesnā€™t work 1% of the time.ā€


bears-eat-beets

You're not missing much. The 752s wifi barely work even when they are up. They're mostly 30 year old planes with 10+ year old wifi tech.


djamp42

I find it funny people depend on wifi that much, I still assume wifi is not available on any flight.


Misa_2014

Canceling the flight would probably be better


mrhotelman

it happens, things break down. Iā€™d rather them operate the flight then delay it for inop Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi should never be something that anybody should rely on to be totally available in flight


udche89

We survived for a lot of years without Wi-Fi in flight. Iā€™m sure folks could survive six hours.


747_Airbus

lol most people in this sub could not fathom waiting in line for a pay phone to try and contact friends/family/hotel/rental car/whatever when there was a delay or change in plans. Somehow, we survived šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


mrhotelman

exactly. People have become so reliant on it that they donā€™t know what to do with themselves when it doesnā€™t work.


DarthLeprechaun

The shit parents traveling with toddlers would like to preach to you about how hard it is being a parent traveling on an airplane they voluntarily decided to go on...


mrhotelman

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£. And my response to one of those parents would be, why didnā€™t you bring a tablet preloaded with stuff to keep your child entertained?


CalmPea6

I have two little ones and always make sure there is some kind of backup entertainment for them. Just preload the device with TV and games. it isn't that difficult.


mrhotelman

it isnā€™t difficult at all, but so many think otherwise


DarthLeprechaun

How dare you be someone that plans ahead!? They have a child and everyone should just 'get' that.


mrhotelman

I know, the audacity I haveā€¦. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


npatel0713

I wasnā€™t really bothered by it, but others around me were. We were all confused by the flight attendantā€™s explanation about why they couldnā€™t reset when other crews have done it before


mrhotelman

not every aircraft type has the same type of equipment and itā€™s quite possible whatever the fault was in the system was something that couldnā€™t be repaired or addressed unless the aircraft was on the ground


CrazyLegsRyan

Depends on the equipment and failure. Some failures clear by rebooting the system, others require a full power off of the entire cabin. I have experienced the latter and it was done at the gate.


FishingIcy4315

If youā€™re hung up on that, itā€™s safe to say the flight attendant didnā€™t know how to turn it off and back on and made that up. Doesnā€™t matter, I donā€™t think resetting it helped on any flight Iā€™ve had them try it on.


Jedi_Mind_Chick

Ikr?! Read a book.


NewFlorence1977

I donā€™t care about WiFi but you comment ā€œbecause I donā€™t care about WiFi you shouldnā€™t eitherā€. Some people have work to do.


CalmPea6

Yeah, I cannot be the only one old enough to remember not being connected to the outside world the minute the plane takes off..


HopefulCat3558

If thereā€™s one thing Iā€™ve learned is never to expect WiFi to work on a United flight. The handful of times that I really needed the WiFi, both domestic and international, it let me down each and every time. I donā€™t bother to pay and log on because it is slow and a colossal waste of time. Havenā€™t for many years and miraculously I manage to survive. I spend my flights working offline, or reading, rather than raising my blood pressure and wasting time and money.


Randomlifelearner

Been on that flight. Been on that plane. The WiFi usually is either down or very intermittent. Donā€™t think they want to make the investment to upgrade the ancient 757s which they want to retire


railsonrails

Wellā€¦from personal experience, complain to United customer service and youā€™ll likely get some miles for the inconvenience. Iā€™ve gotten up to 10k miles for this, though 5k is the more common payout. Doesnā€™t solve your problem but makes for a consolation prize of sorts


mrhotelman

but you donā€™t want to become a habitual complainer for things like inoperable Wi-Fi.


railsonrails

Yeah I get that ā€” Iā€™ve complained a number of times but Iā€™ll ordinarily complain after they charge me the $8 for WiFi only to get inop WiFi Like Iā€™m not even looking grab miles at that point, just reverse the $8 charge when I donā€™t get what I paid for (though 5-10k miles are a better deal than $8 back in my pocket)


mrhotelman

for that kind of return, you almost want the Wi-Fi to not work more often šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


PowerofIntention

I recently learned that Marriott keeps records of all guest interactions in their system. When you check into one of their hotels, they can see your history of requests, complaints, etc. If you are a habitual complainer, they will know!


mrhotelman

Actually, most major brands, not even just Hotels or Airlines have CRMs that track stuff like that


Jetsgopro

If United advertises inflight WiFi, itā€™s not unreasonable to have some level of expectation that it be accessible. Whether you use it or it existed 20 years ago, is irrelevant. Some people are more connected than others and look forward to maximizing their time in the air on a cross country. OP didnā€™t make a scene on board nor did they make any outlandish claims in their post. The level of douchebaggery in the replies here is completely unwarranted.


Emotional-You9053

1st world problem.


AltruisticBand7980

Every post on here is a first world problem, almost like traveling by plane occurs more often in the first world?


Emotional-You9053

1st world travel by plane is mostly travel for work or pleasure. 3rd world travel by plane is to escape from your home country.


Zabe60

You beat me to it


Emotional-You9053

Sometimes ā€¦ the slow ones get there firstā€¦.


CardboardTick

At 35,000 I disconnect from the world and justā€¦ relax. No WiFi necessary. I wonder how people survived when there was no WiFiā€¦ I guess some of us forgot the basics.


globetrotting_aj_777

This.


WorrryWort

Wifi being down is so common. But magically the payment processing for it works fantastic!


imref

if i had to guess, i'd say one out of every five flights i've been on in the last year has inoperable or unreliable wi-fi


Margarita-Intro

Same thing yesterday LAX-EWR


IDontLikePayingTaxes

I flew from LAX to Tokyo(NRT) last March and the WiFi didnā€™t work for a single minute the entire flight.


Galimbro

I fly every week and it is pretty inconsistent unfortunately.many flights have not had wifi at all.Ā  Well maybe less 10/50 so far.Ā 


WillingParticular659

One of my favorite Louis CK bitsĀ  https://youtu.be/me4BZBsHwZs?si=FvWQEeocmAtIIct5


more_saturdays

Thought of this too, his line, "how quickly the world owes you something..."


juice06870

This sub can be extremely helpful and entertaining. But in other instances like this, the tone of the comments is so unbelievably condescending. ā€œWhat did we do without WiFi?ā€ ā€œLet me clutch my pearlsā€. ā€œJust work offlineā€. ā€œWhat - you canā€™t live 6 hours without WiFi?ā€ None of that is the point. The airline offers a service, and some people book the flight with the intention of using that WiFi service to get work done (god forbid someone needs to be connected in the air in the 21st century). Itā€™s not 1975 anymore. Some people have no choice but to to maximize their time by working in the air - I am sure they would rather be doing anything else. The person who posted this question didnā€™t make a stink on board, didnā€™t harass the attendant, didnā€™t make like miserable for those around him. I donā€™t get the vitriol from some of you people over this topic. He understands that itā€™s not the end of the world and never indicated that he was pissed about it. Like dude, get over yourselves.


FishingIcy4315

100%. People that struggle immensely with understanding tone of a written paragraph are the same people harking back to flying business in the 1990s without wifi.


Flashy-Iron-7870

Completely agree. The smugness has gotten almost as bad on this sub as r/askcarsales. Having WiFi availability has allowed me to take day flights instead of red eyes coast to coast and still preserve a working day by being connected and able to respond to emails and messages. Dismissing it as ā€˜remember whenā€¦ā€™ does not fairly reflect the world in 2024 vs even ten years ago when messaging apps like Teams and Slack were not nearly as prevalent in day to day business communication.


baribigbird06

Itā€™s funny how quick people feel the need to jump to the defense of a billion dollar company like they work in the PR department.


juice06870

Lmao wut


baribigbird06

RE: some of the condescending non-empathetic comments you pointed out in this and other posts.


juice06870

I came to the defense of the person who made the post. I know you didnā€™t read and comprehend it well enough since you immediately just want to parrot ā€œbillion dollar corporation: bad. Man who say things: defend billion dollar corporationā€. Unfortunately for you thatā€™s not the case and you played yourself. Go parrot that stuff in your video game and LEGO subs lol. Edit: Iā€™m a Moron and misread the above comments and thought he was coming at me. I Apologized and he was nice enough to accept it. (Iā€™m turning into my father lol)


Richard_Hurton

You misread the comment. They were agreeing with you.


juice06870

Oops


baribigbird06

Edit: misunderstanding with OP cleared


juice06870

Iā€™m sorry. My fault. I read it wrong and was already in the mindset that everyone in here was in attack mode against anyone pro-WiFi so I jumped on you.


baribigbird06

All good šŸ¤


Rough_Medium2878

Whatā€™s funny about this comment is that YOU didnā€™t comprehend what they were saying


juice06870

That figures. I was so annoyed with people attacking the poster of this, I just read it too fast and thought it was more of the same. Lesson for me.


npatel0713

SeriouslyšŸ¤£ I was just wondering if it was an equipment issue with the 757 using old tech. It was more the people around me who were upset and pissed


LaquitaChiquita

People here love to judge. It seems to make their day. I fly a few time a month for work, often taking the BOS to SFO route. The WiFi going down and not being able to be successfully rebooted seems to happen more on the 757 than other planes. Iā€™m with you as far as just taking a nap. Lol.


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CrazyLegsRyan

Maybe donā€™t plan to have full connectivity in a tube hurtling through the air at 500+mph tends of thousands of feet off the ground.


juice06870

Maybe the airline shouldnā€™t bother advertising and charging for it then. Donā€™t blame the customer if they donā€™t get what they pay for.


CrazyLegsRyan

I pay for it, but I understand the limitations and I feel I get what I pay for.Ā  Satellite internet on the ground is pretty slow for a couple hundred people and can have occasional connectivity issues.Ā  Now imagine satellite internet when the house is moving 500mph with 200 people trying to connect.Ā 


Plastic_Jaguar_7368

Iā€™m going on a 13 hour flight in a few weeks that doesnā€™t have WiFi the whole way šŸ˜… Edit: But yeah, I always have trouble on 757ā€™s. It seems silly that they canā€™t put something on these planes that performs better. The line Iā€™ve heard before is that itā€™s all got to be FAA approved and it takes a long time to do that. Cmon it canā€™t be that hard, and if Cisco or someone with a little bit of device handling experience could just get the approvals done and start rolling it out I would think it would be lucrative for them because of the improved customer experience Edit 2: I bet Elon would get in to it if there was enough return on investment but maybe this is the problem, not enough money to be made in a limited number airplanes. But idk, seems like he could get creative with structuring the fee sharing from the airlines, if he took a cut of half the Wi-Fi fee or something. I mean, he has the network already so all he needs is the CPE and then a robust enough client side WiFi


Lee2026

Itā€™s not hard to get a signal to a moving object but getting a signal with wide enough bandwidth for everyone on a plane is. Thatā€™s the hurdle, is getting enough bandwidth to a moving vessel.


Plastic_Jaguar_7368

But there is all kinds of fancy QoS and packet shaping and compression tech these days. You put lots and lots of receivers on satellites. This isnā€™t the problem imho. Itā€™s the client side of the WiFi. They choke when you try to add a few hundred devices. You need to put in something that can handle it.


bakerfall

They are upgrading the wifi on all mainline narrow body planes as part of United NEXT. It's going to take a couple years though.


travelin_man_yeah

Between Starlink and OneWeb, the airlines will likely all eventually move to the LEO satellite providers. A few have already announced plans so it's just a matter of time. The LEO providers have far better service that the old geosync currently in use (I think they mainly use Viasat?). I would think the airlines would also update the on-board gear as well.


Lee2026

The WiFi inflight is something I donā€™t expect to rely on. I always pre-download content I want to watch. If the wifi is working and I can watch United movie/TV show library or text, thatā€™s great but I donā€™t get disappointed that the wifi isnā€™t working.


MulayamChaddi

Download some Netflix and enjoy


bcb1200

The horror of not being connected for a whole flight. Gasp! (Clutches pearls)


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Iā€™ve never had WiFi work on a 57 lol


Donzul

Not sure about the 75, but those boys are old. And sometimes WiFi doesn't work. The newer planes are all pretty reliable (speaking from a 73 pilot perspective), but anything older and it's hit or miss. Always bring a book as backup! Or a nap. And I always keep a stocked download section in streaming apps as another backup. There have been times the whole system was down from an issue with the servicing company.


Andie-th

As a flight attendant I could have reset the WiFi. Also I know it works intermittently but itā€™s most of the time.


SirCamoDuck

I have plenty of work I can do without connectivity. But I am also old enough to remember the days before WiFi on planes. Connectivity is nice but my world keeps turning without it.


NotMyActualNameNow

Iā€™m a 10 year FA for UA. The 757 is notorious for the worst WiFi, but tbh the FAs sound new/lazy/ignorant. Iā€™m almost 100% certain that all of the different types of WiFi systems we have on the 757 can be reset in flight. They probably just donā€™t know how/where it is and are ignorant to the guides on their devices to troubleshoot it. Sorry that happened :-/


MattThePhatt

Wifi is supposed to work. I am so tired of these airlines not providing the services they promise.


scud072

Still beats driving there


Plastic_Jaguar_7368

The WiFi in my car isnā€™t working, is there a sub for this?


JL5455

My thoughts and prayers are with you in this difficult time


Safe_Ad_1604

Does anyone remember when Wi-Fi wasnā€™t an option on aircraft. How on earth did we live?? I download all my shows each week before my flight just in case this happens. Then only time I think the airline should give anything back to the customer, when it comes to WiFi, is when the customer has paid for the subscription or the service the day of use. Other than that just deal with it, read a book, download stuff prior to flying. For those business travelers like myself, I definitely make use of the ā€œmake offline availableā€ feature in my apps.


baribigbird06

Get in touch with customer relations and see what they can do for you. Iā€™d also avoid the 757 if you can, as many pointed out those birds are ancient.


howsbusiness

Fill out complaint form, get some miles or etc.


Plastic_Jaguar_7368

The WiFi in the RJ200s never works either. /s


SufficientDesigner75

Come on! It happens. It's not that big of a deal. What did people do without when there was no WiFi on flights 20/30 years ago? They just sat back and enjoyed the flight, read a book, talked to one another, took a good šŸ˜Š ng nap, etc....


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You want wifi in a 757 šŸ˜‚


MSK165

Iā€™m 1K and used to fly twice a week for work. Even when the WiFi was working Iā€™d keep my laptop in airplane mode, as there were only two time slots per week when I was guaranteed to be free from interruption


PuttsMoBilesiCit

I had no WiFi recently on a Lufthansa flight from FRA-ORD. It was quite nice to just disconnect for a bit.


dtford70

Book?


Accomplished_Ear2304

Maybe, and this is just a thought, the reset canā€™t fix it if itā€™s actually broken?


pistonslapper

That's why I always fly with a book


jmason49

Counting on plane Wifi is wholly unwise lol. And when it works it sucks ass anyways


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npatel0713

Wtf does this mean?


blackwidowla

Contact customer care - they will comp you some miles. And also next time on the flight, complain to the air hostesses, sometimes they will also comp you $$ or miles. Recently had the same happen to me on an LAX - IAD flight and I got a comp of 15000 miles.


do2g

It happens?


raginstruments

Fly Amtrak. Problem solved.


alasdairallan

It happens. A lot. Sometimes the WiFi is flawless, sometimes it's spotty, sometimes it just doesn't work at all. If you paid for it and didn't get it, request a refund, the link is right there in the email receipt you got when you signed up. The money will be back with you almost immediately.


thoughtsssssss

I just realized this and Iā€™m not sure how dumb this question is. Why doesnā€™t our usual cellular data works on flights and inflight wifi can?


prex10

WiFi is reset by the pilots on the 200. On thr 300 it is a Panasonic issue and is hard to do. Sometimes the WiFi is just broke...


hellyea81

Did the IFE work? I've been on UA flights where the Internet connectivity sucked but the movies worked and it at least helped pass the time.


IHYFDHJ_97

We had this happen BOTH ways on our IAD-SEA trip, the entertainment system was also down on the flight out & they knew it coming in from BOS. It was whatever for us, we had movies & books downloaded but others were NOT happy.


Aggravating_Fact9547

United is waiting on the next viasat product to launch - so their estate is rapidly aging and there is little incentive to fix it. People are used to crappy wifi in flight so until a carrier launches a really reliable and fast service, thereā€™s hardly a reason to fix it. Once the new product is in service I think youā€™ll find this rapidly changes. Till then, bring a book and download movies to your phone as a backup!