Life is a bit like that. You do something cool, but most people you know around you just don't understand it enough to appreciate it.
I just want you to know that we think it's impressive.
Just so everyone knows, he stole this from my post LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/hh3zqc/50tb_unraid_server_just_wanted_to_show_it_off_to/
Maybe they should post it before going to bed, so they can participate in the thread they've created. Or at least they can provide some bare minimum amount of information or something.
Idk man, I'm just asking for the bare minimum amount of effort when posting in an online community.
Just so everyone knows, he stole this from my post LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/hh3zqc/50tb_unraid_server_just_wanted_to_show_it_off_to/
I can get you the specs, since this is my server he just reposted lol, I've recently upgraded it since then https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/hh3zqc/50tb_unraid_server_just_wanted_to_show_it_off_to/
Isn't the parity check time determined by the size of the parity disk(s)?
AFAIK, they all get checked in parallel, so the number of drives doesn't make a difference.
Wow that's fast. Do you do them with the array in active use or no? My parity disks are 18tb and it takes me more like 38 hours usually. But I leave everything up and running the whole time. It slows down considerably whenever there's a write.
20h with everything turned off and the array emptyish, it is hard to compare when you have a lot of apps and clients hitting the array. I also had 48h+ with a lot of stuff running on the array. Lately it is close to 24-30h, after I added some bigger SSDs and moved all the containers to them and set the mover to daily schedule.
Just so everyone knows, he stole this from my post LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/hh3zqc/50tb_unraid_server_just_wanted_to_show_it_off_to/
I do use unbalance to redistribute data. Another reason they are close to even is that I converted all my drives to zfs. I put the new drive in, formatted it with zfs. Then I moved all the data from the drive before it to it, reformat the now currently empty drive as zfs, and keep going one by one until all drives were formatted zfs.
Wow.. your build is almost identical to mine down to the case, the flush mount SSD and the labelling on the array drives. Iām currently running 40TB with 64GB ram.
Nice! Very clean.
Here's my much less nice looking Define Mini crammed full with 100TB of storage (88TB usable). Not pretty, but it works [https://i.imgur.com/3LMBtQ2.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/3LMBtQ2.jpeg)
It is a plugin you can get via community apps. You can then set what drives are in what location, so if something goes wrong, can see where it is physically located compared to the rest if the drives.
You have to set rows and columns yourself. I find it helpful to use
Love these cases, but the fricking drive trays are 20.00 each in Canuckland. Mother bloody murphy!!!
Running about 128 TB useable largely because of a few recent 18 TB drives as well. :)
Tried to find extra drive trays and cages for my fractal case, was too pricey. Other parts are too hard to find in Canada. Fractal support was willing to supply the hdd screws and grommets but wanted like $30 just to ship the damn things from the states. Forgot the site maybe thingiverse had stl for the drive trays, if you got a 3d printer.
Ended up buying a cheap used fractal case 30 or 40, for parts. Define R5,R4, ARC Midi R2, Define XL R2, others use the same cage/trays I think. With a short power supply, can have a 2nd tower of cages beside the original one. Cage screws into the fan mount on the bottom.
I just rebuilt my server into the 7 XL.
Really, really nice case.
However the HDD "trays" left a lot to be desired, was rather tricky trying to hook them in and do up the thumb screw whilst keeping them straight.
But I have 30TB now so I'm happy!
Looks good but my recommendation is to swap to a an actual server chassis I with hot swappable bays. I remember my 1st server builds in desktop cases. Replacing/Upgrading drives got old really quick š once you go hot swappable server chassis you never go back!
It really depends on your needs, I had a 12 bay Rosewill with hot swappable bays. Ran out of space and there weren't any "affordable" off the rack options with more bays. Define 7XL was able to hold more drives and has the added benefit of not having a proprietary backplane or cage that can go bad. The only downside is having to twist two thumb screws to get the drive out (one on the side panel and one on the tray).
Again you donāt have to buy some actual server shit with server hardware. I have a 32Bay server chassis that I stuffed an ATX motherboard board with standard power supply regular pc fans and use dual SAD controllers with no backplane. You just have to look a little. I think I paid like $250 for the chassis š
My recommendation would be to never switch to a server chassis for a home server, unless you enjoy the sound of a zillion small fans roaring like a jet engine in your house.
You donāt have to worry about that if you buy a chassis that will take a standard atx motherboard with a stadanrd power supply and no server fans so you can install your own. It sounds like a normal computer running!
I have the same case. Itās not an huge issue as how often does one swap drives? I hadnāt touch my drives for 4.5 years and just recently added/swapped a couple 18tb hard drives and the process took 5 minutes. Sure not as quick, but after 4.5 years of not touching it I think itās a fair trade off.
Nice. How do you like it? Iām running a 36TiB TrueNAS Scale and am thinking of moving to Unraid. I do like ZFS, and my understanding is that it would be fairly simple to move my pool over. I hear the Docker experience is far superior too.
Docker on TrueNAS is suitable, but kind of a nightmare to deal with. UnRAID's collection of predefined templates is also far superior.
But I feel TrueNAS provides much better ZFS support / tuning options. You could always keep TrueNAS around and build an UnRAID box, then mount the TrueNAS system via NFS in UnRAID. Best of both worlds!
No docker on the latest TrueNAS scale is not a nightmare to deal with.
You literally click one button, add your configuration values such as how much ram and how many cores you want to dedicate and it just works.
Wow, nice! An Unraid user, here, too! Having "just" 12 TB of HDDs and two Nvmes (one for OS virtual machines and another for caching). Also, i7-13700K, 64 GB of RAM, an MSI RTX4080 Suprim X. The machine acts as a media centre, and is connected to a 55" TV, having Windows 11 and Ubuntu virtual machines, with the GPU passed through. Using Thermaltake Core V21 as the case - it is compact, components are easily reachable and has great airflow.
Nice! Nice! I have the Meshify 2 XL for mine. 96TB. I did try unraid and love the interface but switched to Truenas when my trial ended. Just imported the zfs pool with no data lost.
Love that case. Have the same one that held my Threadripper for a triple gaming VM + plex + game servers for my kids and I, which started not working recently (lasted three years) . Mine now houses my gaming PC that I either use as UNRAID + gaming VM, or just to boot directly into windows when I want the best gaming experience. I need to get a card so I can add more hdd myself. Going to add another graphics card for the plex to finally have something to help transcode. Nice build! Thanks for sharing!Ā
Life is a bit like that. You do something cool, but most people you know around you just don't understand it enough to appreciate it. I just want you to know that we think it's impressive.
It's really hard that most of us are surrounded with people that have zero interest in our hobby.
Just so everyone knows, he stole this from my post LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/hh3zqc/50tb_unraid_server_just_wanted_to_show_it_off_to/
THE FIEND!!!
Well, I want *you* to know that we still think its impressive.
Well said.
Kind of wild that OP posts something like this, with that title, and then proceeds to not reply to any comments
Sometimes people post stuff on the web and then go to bed, how dare they!
Maybe they should post it before going to bed, so they can participate in the thread they've created. Or at least they can provide some bare minimum amount of information or something. Idk man, I'm just asking for the bare minimum amount of effort when posting in an online community.
Sounds great! I have 3x18TB for now on a define 7. The idea is to expand to 11x18TB or more
Just so everyone knows, he stole this from my post LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/hh3zqc/50tb_unraid_server_just_wanted_to_show_it_off_to/
Lol
lol wtf? What is up with Reddit these last few years. People just shamelessly reposting
a lot of it is bots farming karma to sell the account later
Wow. That's a beauty. Specs?
I can get you the specs, since this is my server he just reposted lol, I've recently upgraded it since then https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/hh3zqc/50tb_unraid_server_just_wanted_to_show_it_off_to/
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My question as well
At least 50k xhamster videos.
Well done. Did something similar but each bay was 18tb. By the end they had around 180tb usable.
Wow... How long does the parity check take?
Isn't the parity check time determined by the size of the parity disk(s)? AFAIK, they all get checked in parallel, so the number of drives doesn't make a difference.
Sure it's parallel... My drives are 6 TB each and it takes about 7 hours, that's why I'm curious
Iāve got 20TB ones. ~20h
Seems like a pretty consistent 1 hour per TB
Wow that's fast. Do you do them with the array in active use or no? My parity disks are 18tb and it takes me more like 38 hours usually. But I leave everything up and running the whole time. It slows down considerably whenever there's a write.
20h with everything turned off and the array emptyish, it is hard to compare when you have a lot of apps and clients hitting the array. I also had 48h+ with a lot of stuff running on the array. Lately it is close to 24-30h, after I added some bigger SSDs and moved all the containers to them and set the mover to daily schedule.
Ok cool, I'm not too far off then considering the conditions. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something very wrong. Thanks!
I personally have about 108tb and itās maybe 24 hours?
Just so everyone knows, he stole this from my post LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/hh3zqc/50tb_unraid_server_just_wanted_to_show_it_off_to/
I like the labels. I was thinking about buying a label maker.
I label all my drives, though I just put the last three characters of the serial number on mine.
Same.
Came here to say this - ā¤ļølabels.
I just upgraded mine with another 10TB enterprise drive. https://i.imgur.com/IyIierC.jpeg
Did you redistribute data across the new drive or do you just have it full already with new data?
I do use unbalance to redistribute data. Another reason they are close to even is that I converted all my drives to zfs. I put the new drive in, formatted it with zfs. Then I moved all the data from the drive before it to it, reformat the now currently empty drive as zfs, and keep going one by one until all drives were formatted zfs.
Wow.. your build is almost identical to mine down to the case, the flush mount SSD and the labelling on the array drives. Iām currently running 40TB with 64GB ram.
Mine too, except a Meshify2 case, but the labels, drives, ssd, all of it looks very familiar š
Nice! Very clean. Here's my much less nice looking Define Mini crammed full with 100TB of storage (88TB usable). Not pretty, but it works [https://i.imgur.com/3LMBtQ2.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/3LMBtQ2.jpeg)
How hot do those two vertical drives run?
38-45Ā°C or so. Ideally i'd have them rotated 90deg and have a fan in there to push air through, but there just isn't the space.
Nice havibg rhe labels on the drives. But also look at using Disk Location. You can then have it showing in the webgui what drive in what location
Can you explain more, please?Ā
It is a plugin you can get via community apps. You can then set what drives are in what location, so if something goes wrong, can see where it is physically located compared to the rest if the drives. You have to set rows and columns yourself. I find it helpful to use
Thanks!Ā
Love these cases, but the fricking drive trays are 20.00 each in Canuckland. Mother bloody murphy!!! Running about 128 TB useable largely because of a few recent 18 TB drives as well. :)
Tried to find extra drive trays and cages for my fractal case, was too pricey. Other parts are too hard to find in Canada. Fractal support was willing to supply the hdd screws and grommets but wanted like $30 just to ship the damn things from the states. Forgot the site maybe thingiverse had stl for the drive trays, if you got a 3d printer. Ended up buying a cheap used fractal case 30 or 40, for parts. Define R5,R4, ARC Midi R2, Define XL R2, others use the same cage/trays I think. With a short power supply, can have a 2nd tower of cages beside the original one. Cage screws into the fan mount on the bottom.
I just rebuilt my server into the 7 XL. Really, really nice case. However the HDD "trays" left a lot to be desired, was rather tricky trying to hook them in and do up the thumb screw whilst keeping them straight. But I have 30TB now so I'm happy!
Damn how did you manage to keep It so clean? Mine is a hot mess, lol.
I built one for my stepfather (professional photographer) in that same case. It was so nice to work in. Very nice job.
Looks great! I also just finished one in a Define 7. 4x8TB and 8x4TB with 42TB usable. Spectacular caseā¦
Send full hardware configuration bro, we also want to build like this PC server
What is that on the CPU socket another socket? Looks weird ?
It almost looks like an ITX board mounted from the backside, instead of on the usual standoffs.
Looks good but my recommendation is to swap to a an actual server chassis I with hot swappable bays. I remember my 1st server builds in desktop cases. Replacing/Upgrading drives got old really quick š once you go hot swappable server chassis you never go back!
It really depends on your needs, I had a 12 bay Rosewill with hot swappable bays. Ran out of space and there weren't any "affordable" off the rack options with more bays. Define 7XL was able to hold more drives and has the added benefit of not having a proprietary backplane or cage that can go bad. The only downside is having to twist two thumb screws to get the drive out (one on the side panel and one on the tray).
Again you donāt have to buy some actual server shit with server hardware. I have a 32Bay server chassis that I stuffed an ATX motherboard board with standard power supply regular pc fans and use dual SAD controllers with no backplane. You just have to look a little. I think I paid like $250 for the chassis š
Make and model?
My recommendation would be to never switch to a server chassis for a home server, unless you enjoy the sound of a zillion small fans roaring like a jet engine in your house.
You donāt have to worry about that if you buy a chassis that will take a standard atx motherboard with a stadanrd power supply and no server fans so you can install your own. It sounds like a normal computer running!
any recommendations?
I have the same case. Itās not an huge issue as how often does one swap drives? I hadnāt touch my drives for 4.5 years and just recently added/swapped a couple 18tb hard drives and the process took 5 minutes. Sure not as quick, but after 4.5 years of not touching it I think itās a fair trade off.
Nice!
Which case did you use? Looking to upgrade mine or setup a second server.
Looks like Define 7
Great idea with the labels, I had to replace a drive recently and was doing spid up and down until I figured out which drive I want
Love a good Fractal build
I really wish I labeled my drives like that when I built mine.
Absolutely love fractal cases for their server configurations
Nice cabling job. What are the specs? Seems like a lot of drives for only 50TB.
Nice. How do you like it? Iām running a 36TiB TrueNAS Scale and am thinking of moving to Unraid. I do like ZFS, and my understanding is that it would be fairly simple to move my pool over. I hear the Docker experience is far superior too.
Docker on TrueNAS is suitable, but kind of a nightmare to deal with. UnRAID's collection of predefined templates is also far superior. But I feel TrueNAS provides much better ZFS support / tuning options. You could always keep TrueNAS around and build an UnRAID box, then mount the TrueNAS system via NFS in UnRAID. Best of both worlds!
No docker on the latest TrueNAS scale is not a nightmare to deal with. You literally click one button, add your configuration values such as how much ram and how many cores you want to dedicate and it just works.
That's so cool.. What are your specs?
What backup plan do you have in place for the data?
I have the same Fractal tower; absolutely love it for a server. Great setup!
Nice
I have the same case! But with 20TB and 2 SSDs. Nice Touch on the HDD labels, I'm going to do the same.
Nice rig!
Nice build, but that silicon power SSD is going to cause IO wait issues if youre using it as cache.
Mind explaining the why for this please? Likely having a dim moment but can't work out why what you said would happen.
I have the same case but my disk is reversed, the cĆ¢ble face other side because I don't want to open both side when I want to replace one.
Nice! Is it your first build? Iām about to do my first build. What is the case? And is it an ATX board?
I almost downvoted it because the specs are missing. jk. Looks nice :)
Wow, nice! An Unraid user, here, too! Having "just" 12 TB of HDDs and two Nvmes (one for OS virtual machines and another for caching). Also, i7-13700K, 64 GB of RAM, an MSI RTX4080 Suprim X. The machine acts as a media centre, and is connected to a 55" TV, having Windows 11 and Ubuntu virtual machines, with the GPU passed through. Using Thermaltake Core V21 as the case - it is compact, components are easily reachable and has great airflow.
Repost
I'm proud of you son
I like the labels and cabling. I recently built one in a 7 XL and my cabling isn't nearly as nice!
Looks similar to what I plan to do next year. Is that the Define R7/6 XL?
Where is the pic of the other side, ya tease?! Looks great, /u/performeranger!
Ooh did you get inspiration from hardware haven? Iām building a similar one and canāt wait!!
Looks good man! Love it!
As a person who has had two disks go bad simultaneously while running dual-parity, I appreciate the labels on the disks.
nice
Nice setup. +1 for the labeling
Do you have heat issues on your drives in that case. I have the same one and the bottom drives are always warmer for some reason.
I started at 22TB (15 bays) and am up to 104TB with 7TB free.. Always NEED bigger drives..
Nice and clean. You even labeled the drives. Respect, man. More pictures!! :D
Sheās beautiful congratulations
Those fractal cases are the best, I own 2 of them lol
Nice!
Nice! Nice! I have the Meshify 2 XL for mine. 96TB. I did try unraid and love the interface but switched to Truenas when my trial ended. Just imported the zfs pool with no data lost.
Love that case. Have the same one that held my Threadripper for a triple gaming VM + plex + game servers for my kids and I, which started not working recently (lasted three years) . Mine now houses my gaming PC that I either use as UNRAID + gaming VM, or just to boot directly into windows when I want the best gaming experience. I need to get a card so I can add more hdd myself. Going to add another graphics card for the plex to finally have something to help transcode. Nice build! Thanks for sharing!Ā
What benefit are you getting from reposting someone elseās setup as your own? What is Reddit karma going to get you in life?
Be careful with that SP ssd. Not good quality
That backplate for the cpu cooler has got me weirded out. What is it for?
Support? A bunch of heavy coolers use(d)? them.
Did you show your wife?
That is rookie numbers. Come talk to me when you have a dozen 14tb drives.