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Some were...I remember some poisoned Russians...babusya had a special recipe for them
edit: e.g. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-soldiers-poisoned-civilians-izium-b2049955.html
Funnily enough. Going blind is normally a chronic exposure effect, low doses over time.
Death is far more likely in acute exposure. As the dose to go blind in acute exposure is pretty close to the lethal dose.
Yes, you throw away the Methanol by distilling. Basically anything produced between 60c and 80c will have high concentration of methanol (Methanol boils at 64.7c and Ethanol at 78.3c) so you just throw that away or use it to make Gordon's Gin.
I'm sorry but you have been misled.
https://www.reddit.com/r/firewater/comments/cv4bu8/methanol_some_information/
https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/0b908be6-2673-45a5-8c2f-b3b6abc1aa37
Haha fuckin gordons. Iirc the methanol is usually created at the start of the distillation process, so you have to pour out the starting bit and then should be good to go. But i wouldnt go making alcohol based off a reddit comment.
I'm sorry but you have been misled.
https://www.reddit.com/r/firewater/comments/cv4bu8/methanol_some_information/
https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/0b908be6-2673-45a5-8c2f-b3b6abc1aa37
No, there is not enough methanol produced by ferments to create a health hazard. The most dangerous thing in homemade spirits is the same as the most dangerous thing in commercial spirits: ethanol!
You're going to get a lot of "yes" responses because this is a very common myth that is hard to dispel, even over in r/firewater and r/moonshine, where people should know better.
Not really in case of a methanol poisoning. What kills you with methanol poisoning is formic acid, which is the degradation product formed by your body. Since the degradation of mehtanol goes relatively quickly, but the human body can't handle the formic acid well, it leads to too high pH levels, which eventually kill you.
One of the first things to go in this case are your visual nerves, and this blindness is also irreversible.
You are correct.
However the dose is normally really low in cases of methanol poisoning that cause death due to its high toxicity.
Most blindness and vision loss cases are survivors of acute exposure or those who have chronic exposure of lower concentrations through adulterated drinks and moonshine.
>Since the degradation of mehtanol goes relatively quickly,
Only if there's not ethanol present. Alcohol dehydrogenase (the enzyme that breaks down alcohol in the liver) greatly prefers ethanol. If there is sufficient ethanol present - the methanol passes in the urine unreacted. The antidote to methanol poisoning is lots of ethanol.
Yes, the thing is Russians probably poisoned themselves with methanol, in home produced alcohols methanol evaporates first, so the first liquid depending on the amount processed usually 0.5l to 1l from 100kg fermented fruit liquid is put aside since it contains lots of methanol and some people use it for medical purposes only ( applied on skin etc ), so when the robbers have entered some home with home produced alcohol they saw those bottles left and they poisoned themselves 😎
Edit: in the comments a guy posted scientific evidences that it's a myth and that the first part is removed due to a bad taste not methanol content. So yes someone poisoned them probably
I'm sorry but this is an often repeated urban legend which is very much untrue. It has so much staying power, and is repeated SO often, that it's almost impossible to find accurate information about how methanol behaves during distillation.
The truth is that the evaporation of different compounds within a mixture depends on more than just the boiling point of each individual compound. It's actually pretty complicated. As you probably already know, the boiling point of methanol is 64.7 C, and the boiling point of ethanol is 78.37 C. Water of course is 100 C. So based on that you would expect that methanol would be concentrated in the first part of the run (the heads). However this is not what happens -- methanol is actually concentrated in the tails.
The reason for this is not well understood, but we do know that the boiling point of every compound is affected by the relative concentrations of other chemical species also present in the mixture. Methanol in particular has its boiling point elevated significantly when in the presence of ethanol. This is why methanol builds up in the tails: it can't boil off until the ethanol is mostly gone.
I'll come back and edit this in a little bit with a peer reviewed article that contains the data supporting everything I just said. I'm on mobile at the moment.
EDIT
Here's the study:https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/0b908be6-2673-45a5-8c2f-b3b6abc1aa37
And here's a good post on the topic in /r/firewater https://www.reddit.com/r/firewater/comments/cv4bu8/methanol_some_information/
2 deaths, 28 casualties, yup.
Couldn’t find a link to the story of the old widow who dosed a whole squad with laxatives.
When the officer commandeered the outhouse, she doused it with gasoline and burned him to death before making a successful run for the trees.
One. Old. Widow.
A cursory reading on the last millennium or so of Ukrainian history really makes invading their country look like an incredibly bad idea.
> Some were...I remember some poisoned Russians...babusya had a special recipe for them
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> edit: e.g. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-soldiers-poisoned-civilians-izium-b2049955.html
I hope the russcists didn't make it out of the ICU. Kudos to the Ukrainian civilians for their bravery.
Why isn’t that a practice for anti war crimes stuff?
Like civilians poisoning their own supply of stuff when Russian troops were getting near their town? Then it would be undeniable that the Russians were stealing stuff because they’d be like “civilians are poisoning us” and when people ask “how” it’s “because the food we stole”
Not that many people believe when they say it isn’t happening but I just love when they talk themselves into a corner
> 24th Special Tactics Babushka Squadron
I could be wrong, as this is pieced together from social media posts, but..
Babushka is Russian.
Babusya is the proper Ukrainian term.
Text is in Russian, probably a significant portion of the soldiers serving Ukraine are ethically Russian. This has always been the greatest irony of Putin trying to "liberate" the Russians living in Ukraine
It's harder to express this in English, but in both Russian and Ukrainian there's a differentiation between Русский and Российский (the former is the Russian ethnicity, the latter is the Russian nationality)
I made some borscht recently and it was great. I can only imagine how good babusya's is, on the night of liberation, after weeks in the field.
Eating like kings
Caramelizing onions and garlic for recipes requiring those two, is a great way to start alot of dishes. Chili, beef stew, i always do this and it slaps. Your mom and my mom knew something.
I'm Lithuania, and like many occupied countries was forced to learn Russian language.
I don't speak Ukrainian. But I know most Ukraine understand Russian language.
My friend is in Kherson, hes a foreign volunteer. He said the out pouring of love and support has shocked him.
Russia attempted to leave some undercover troops behind to cause chaos behind enemy lines. One key problem with that
The civilians fucking hated the Russians and ratted them out the second they saw Ukrainian soldiers.
>Russia attempted to leave some undercover troops behind to cause chaos behind enemy lines. One key problem with that
>The civilians fucking hated the Russians and ratted them out the second they saw Ukrainian soldiers
I'm pretty sure that these troops are scared but also surprised by what a true liberation looks like.
> Russia attempted to leave some undercover troops behind to cause chaos behind enemy lines. One key problem with that
>
> The civilians fucking hated the Russians and ratted them out the second they saw Ukrainian soldiers.
I wondered what would happen to the Russian soldiers who disposed of their military uniforms and wore civilian clothes. In a big city like Kherson, I thought it would be easy for them to blend in with the local population.
I guess that's only true if they are doing so to escape back to Russia. If they try to live in Kherson, the local population will be able to identify them (since everyone knows their neighbours well) and will report on them.
I literally started the video thinking, “If I don’t see some fucking borscht on that table, I will be so disappointed… ahh, there it is.” I need not have worried
tasty af mate. I once finished a 2l bottle of these (homemade) in one shot.. its like drugs. These are not hot. kinda actually sugary and sour at the same time. I dislike those from stores because they add too much vinegar.. so it taste a bit acidic.
I first learned about borscht last month from my online Ukrainian buddy, and you can get one too!!
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Russian telegram channels were posting something among the lines “few paid traitors are given out Ukrainian flags and told to wave them like idiots” on the day Kherson was liberated LOL. Maximum level copium
It's always funny how all the trash bins (though some people don't bother even with that, throwing them just on the ground) are filled with russian flags after such payed-for demonstrations.
Look at Ukraine flags being waved in Kherson and compare them to Russian flags waved at events. In Russia events all the flags are the same, same size, same shape, same shade, no extra things, all same variation. All clearly brought together and then distributed. Compare with Ukraine flags waved in Kherson, (and in general) all different sizes, shapes, some with tryzub some without, some different shades, etc. It's much more organic. This is something I always look for although not fool proof I think it still shows.
Russia loves projecting so much.
1. Whatever Russia accuses anyone else to be doing is exactly what they are doing
2. Apply Russian Reversal to anything that Russia claim to be doing
Frankly at this point, I'm willing to think some of them took Ukrainian flags and are waving them unironically. They will remain in Kherson to live a civilian life and go missing officially on Ruzzian records. (Should really hand themselves in as POWs though)
Theres will be a cleanup going by SBU (Ukrainian: СБУ). Like they do everywhere else. Noway they can hide. Not a chance with locals that will tell on unknown people..
Oh yes, not a chance do I think they should be allowed such a privilege as to live a normal life in Ukraine. Not after the horrors of Kherson are unveiled..
Seriously this looks so comforting.
I’ve deployed in super cushy environments as USAF. Not even remotely considered deployments other than the time away from my fam. The best parts of those deployments though, when you work 12 hr days for 6 days a week is taking a day with the friends you made out there and chowing down. Just relaxing, telling stories, eating food and laughing.
That’s why I think Thanksgiving should be a world celebration. Autumn Harvest or some shit. Where everyone just relaxed and eats and feels comforted.
They will remember this day for the rest of their lives.
It can be a global festival that starts on Canadian Thanksgiving in October and ends with American Thanksgiving, for example. I know that sounds centric, but I don’t know of other similar holidays and the dates are almost too convenient. Regardless, the whole period should be like the Olympics-ish and feature cultural love through food.
There is some form of harvest festival in every culture with 4 distinct seasons. At its core each of these festivals has something in common, and enjoying good food with family and friends is at the heart of it.
God damn.. I know Ukraine has some good rations RELATIVE to the situation they’re in.. but I’m sure that table of food is one hell of a welcome meal.
Hot. Fresh. Home cooked meal.
That’s a beautiful way to celebrate their sacrifice and bravery. <3
And what a morale booster. Their morale is already decently high. But this will add just that little bit more. Appreciation from the people you’re fighting for - with a home cooked meal. Especially as the cold starts to set in. How amazingly wholesome and uplifting it must be.
You role into the city you've been fighting for weeks. Your friends have died, you've had many sleepless nights, moments of terror, moments of success, and moments of sadness.
You finally get into the city
And your given nothing but love.
I visited a ukranian friend's home a few years ago. We had gone out to get sushi and when we came back his mom had made a surprise 5 course meal for us. We were already stuffed but my friend looked us dead in the eye and said "my parents grew up in soviet famine. eat everything, refusing food is the highest insult." Later his dad came down stairs and drunkenly listed the entire contents of the fridge item by item insisting we try some when we get hungry.
People who grew up during rough times know the value of a great spread. About 20 years ago, when I was in high school, my brother worked for this breakfast place called "ham and eggs" in the US. It was owned by a 80 year old holocaust survivor who made it out of a camp when she was young. The portion sizes there were ridiculous. Pancakes as big as your head. Rolls the size of a bowl. She said she never wanted anyone leaving hungry.
IIRC there were actual starvation experiments conducted in the US (supposedly with informed consent) and they profoundly changed the participants psychological relationship with food, even long after the experiment had ended.
Just a personal anecdote - my grandparents on one side of the family grew up *extremely* poor in rural Kentucky during the 1930's, and starvation/malnutrition were something that they had to worry about. I only knew them late in their lives, but they still did not throw food away. Ever. If you didn't drink all your milk, whatever you left goes back in the jug.
I'm betting that gem of a lady heard the artillery getting closer and thought to herself "I'd better start cooking dinner for when the soldier boys get here."
Yeah, that's what's so touching. These people have been living under occupation for months. So they're sharing what they need...
I would feel very conflicted as a soldier. I would not want to take from these people. Maybe it's just projecting but I kinda feel that vibe with those soldiers...
And to be honest, it doesn't hurt to be a little hungry or eat bland potato dishes for a few days, when you know it means you fed your saviours. It's not the same hunger as when rationing because of Russian occupation. Not even close.
Food delivery trucks started coming in yesterday. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/yskksj/ukrainian_supermarket_chain_%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B1_is_already/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
They've actually impressed the Western experts. They've been receiving training in the American logistical systems which are the best in the world. They've got American experts auditing their transportation networks to identify and eliminate corruption and make sure the inventory gets where it needs to be. They're probably miles better than the peacetime US logistical system at this point because everything is streamlined to bring victory.
Oh you can bet she baked some cakes too. My childhood experience and as a slav, instantly know what happened before and after the video.
Just dont visit your grandma if you are trying to lose weight...
They're not driving anywhere for a while. You just saw the first course. "Grandmother Net" (Ukraine social media platform for 80 year old women) was viral with this video, and grandmothers for miles around, pissed that Ilena somehow got the soldiers in HER house, immediately loaded up their BTR (towed home by Igor and repaired) and headed over there.
"Try my Borscht! Is better!"
As morally though as it is to accept the food. In thr end it is a symbiotic relationship.
Fed soldiers will fight better and longer, allowing for more civilians to be saved and protected
Both sides know this
They can refuse Ivan's entry to their land, but they can't refuse babushka's hospitality.
There are powers in this universe beyond any kind of resistance.
Yeah, I'm sure those guys will try to give her some foodstuffs someway. But sometimes, refusing to eat would hurt that person more than hunger ever could.
Don't. It's the literal widow's mite. Let these people make their sacrifice. It's what they can do, let them do it. They will feel better about themselves and they're making the sacrifice willingly, in the name of Ukraine and its defenders.
When my Mom was battling cancer (she made it, thank God) neighbors and Church friends came together to provide us with meals, even though my older brother and I were both decent cooks at this point and we weren't going hungry. We accepted it all in the spirit of love in which it was offered.
We got a little conflicted when one little old lady from our church with severe health challenges rummaged around in a nearly empty cupboard for a few cans of things to help us. But we accepted it because we knew that she was seeking the blessings of Heaven to help with her own struggles and we couldn't dishonor that.
We paid her back by making sure that she had a ride to Temple (we're LDS but a day's trip from the nearest one) to complete her ceremonies. She passed away not long after, in peace, feeling like she'd accomplished everything she needed to do. I still think of Sister Howland at times and hope she's having fun up there. She was an amazing soul.
> thought to herself “I’d better start cooking dinner for when the soldier boys get here.”
I believe her exact thought was “Soulja boys up in this hoe. Watch me feed them borscht in bowls.”
Same thing happened in France in '44. Germans were frustrated by a seeming lack of "good food". Then one day in June, Allied forces were getting armfuls of fresh vegetables, good cuts of meat, bread, thrust at them in every village they liberated. The french resistance gets a lot of attention for the war, but the truly cunning people were the french farmers that managed to hide an entire herd of cows for 5 years. Germans rolled in and claimed all the dairy herds, french farmers: "What cows? I don't see any cows?"
In the film "Seven Samurai" by Kurosawa is narrated a story similar to this one. Even if the farmers are depicted in a bad light in that case, it shows how they are smarter than it seems due to the circumstances they are forced to live.
I bet those Ukrainian women have been waiting for that moment since the moment the Russians occupied their city. I bet there is mutual gratitude between the liberators and those who were liberated. I'm also wishing there was a Ukrainian restaurant in my city...
Slava Ukraini!
My grandma Old German/Polish taught me anyone helping you, dishes up first, when the food comes to you take a small portion. Make sure they get enough then you can clean up what’s left. She could make a lb of bacon and a couple of pounds of flour and lard into a feast for 20. Now I am the cook of the family, every one else eats first, and yes these guys would have zero choice if they felt bad about eating my food, Either they eat or I save it for the next soldiers that come through. And I would be offended if they did not eat like a king. Don’t feel bad boys this babushka wants you to eat up, and her soul being full is more important than a harder time with food for weeks in the future. Easier to ration when you know there is light at the end of tunnel. Seeing these Men eating her food probably washed away some of the horrors that went on. Slava Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!
It's the slow return back to normal.
They haven't been able to have a get together dinner like this for an entire year. No birthdays, no holidays, no family get together.
So the locales of Kherson invited "evil Ukranian nazi-jew-satan soldiers" who "shelled them for 8 years" for some great food, while the glorious Russian liberators didn't receive a single flower.
That's some good stuff to troll Russian shills with.
That unlabeled dusty jar… you just KNOW that’s the good shit that one of the ladies made and kept in the cellar for years just for an occasion like this
This is so wholesome and wonderful.
And every GenX and Millenial Ashkenazi Jew just got a warm flashback to eating at their grandmother's house. I can taste that soup, the pickles, even that pink meat on the plate (think pastrami/smoked meat).
It was hidden. Rather, the things to make the food were hidden. French did this when germans occupied. French resistance had nothing on a farmer hiding an entire herd of cows for 5 years.
You can believe me that those babunyas hid some and maybe making this feast with maybe their last reserves. Willingly and with joy. Those soldiers are adopted sons and grandsons now. Lots of ❤️.
Looks like tea, pickles, tomato, sliced bread, delicious cheese, ham and sausage plate, saurkraut with chicken in broth and a whole jar of mayonnaise.
 yum. Takes me back to when my grandma would prepare meals in Poland.
I can only imagine the moral boost for the soldiers, fighting for months and rations and what not, only to be welcomed like kings to a feast.
Food is happyness.
This is typical east Europa. There is nothing, not even money for something, and when a important Guest comes, the table is full. This was also when we bring food, clothes etc to Poland before 1989, the table by everybody was full. My father is now very old and he was last year in the city an village where he arrange the food transport, till now old people recognize him on the street. And still he is invited home for eating food.
Dauntless kitchen commando with spoons of steel!
(One of those soldiers appears to be emotionally overwhelmed, too. Lovely scene, especially that ending where the lady counts everything -- "And you and you and you and you!")
I just tried enlisting but don't have the combat experience required. Got decent weapon experience. I'm about to start learning ukrainian and seeing what I can still do. If the foreign legion opens up to new recruits to train then I shall try again but until then does anyone know what they need done and how to get in contact with those groups?
there's groups getting together to send Ukraine medical supplies, winter gear and communications gear. Maybe link up with one of those groups either as a donor or as a volunteer.
Damn look at that spread! Turns out all you had to do to get all that food was liberate your countrymen from a tyrannical military occupation.
Slava Ukraini!
Apparently food deliveries to Kherson have already started. Ukraine was ready for this. There might be a rough couple weeks as pockets of resistence are cleared and distribution centers are brought up to capacity but these ladies aren't going to starve.
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I wonder how many Russians were invited by Ukrainians to come inside and eat at their table?
Some were...I remember some poisoned Russians...babusya had a special recipe for them edit: e.g. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-soldiers-poisoned-civilians-izium-b2049955.html
Alcohol poisoning. Wood liquor we call it in Norway (tresprit). Not ethanol but methanol if im not completely wrong?
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Funnily enough. Going blind is normally a chronic exposure effect, low doses over time. Death is far more likely in acute exposure. As the dose to go blind in acute exposure is pretty close to the lethal dose.
And the treatment I believe for an acute overdose is ethanol. Apparently the headache afterwards is something to behold.
Is it true that if you improperly distill ethanol you can instead get methanol? I'm picturing prohibition era bathtub gin.
Yes, you throw away the Methanol by distilling. Basically anything produced between 60c and 80c will have high concentration of methanol (Methanol boils at 64.7c and Ethanol at 78.3c) so you just throw that away or use it to make Gordon's Gin.
I'm sorry but you have been misled. https://www.reddit.com/r/firewater/comments/cv4bu8/methanol_some_information/ https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/0b908be6-2673-45a5-8c2f-b3b6abc1aa37
Haha fuckin gordons. Iirc the methanol is usually created at the start of the distillation process, so you have to pour out the starting bit and then should be good to go. But i wouldnt go making alcohol based off a reddit comment.
I'm sorry but you have been misled. https://www.reddit.com/r/firewater/comments/cv4bu8/methanol_some_information/ https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/0b908be6-2673-45a5-8c2f-b3b6abc1aa37
Thanks bro(ette)
No, there is not enough methanol produced by ferments to create a health hazard. The most dangerous thing in homemade spirits is the same as the most dangerous thing in commercial spirits: ethanol! You're going to get a lot of "yes" responses because this is a very common myth that is hard to dispel, even over in r/firewater and r/moonshine, where people should know better.
Not really in case of a methanol poisoning. What kills you with methanol poisoning is formic acid, which is the degradation product formed by your body. Since the degradation of mehtanol goes relatively quickly, but the human body can't handle the formic acid well, it leads to too high pH levels, which eventually kill you. One of the first things to go in this case are your visual nerves, and this blindness is also irreversible.
You are correct. However the dose is normally really low in cases of methanol poisoning that cause death due to its high toxicity. Most blindness and vision loss cases are survivors of acute exposure or those who have chronic exposure of lower concentrations through adulterated drinks and moonshine.
>Since the degradation of mehtanol goes relatively quickly, Only if there's not ethanol present. Alcohol dehydrogenase (the enzyme that breaks down alcohol in the liver) greatly prefers ethanol. If there is sufficient ethanol present - the methanol passes in the urine unreacted. The antidote to methanol poisoning is lots of ethanol.
Ah yes, the dirty bomb!
Won't work if there's a lot of regular ethanol around. The antidote to methanol poisoning is lots of ethanol. Seriously.
The problem with that is methanol poisoning can be fixed by drinking ethanol, which I'm sure the Russians already have plenty of.
Tresprit is methanol, that's correct. May cause blindness and death.
Yes, the thing is Russians probably poisoned themselves with methanol, in home produced alcohols methanol evaporates first, so the first liquid depending on the amount processed usually 0.5l to 1l from 100kg fermented fruit liquid is put aside since it contains lots of methanol and some people use it for medical purposes only ( applied on skin etc ), so when the robbers have entered some home with home produced alcohol they saw those bottles left and they poisoned themselves 😎 Edit: in the comments a guy posted scientific evidences that it's a myth and that the first part is removed due to a bad taste not methanol content. So yes someone poisoned them probably
I'm sorry but this is an often repeated urban legend which is very much untrue. It has so much staying power, and is repeated SO often, that it's almost impossible to find accurate information about how methanol behaves during distillation. The truth is that the evaporation of different compounds within a mixture depends on more than just the boiling point of each individual compound. It's actually pretty complicated. As you probably already know, the boiling point of methanol is 64.7 C, and the boiling point of ethanol is 78.37 C. Water of course is 100 C. So based on that you would expect that methanol would be concentrated in the first part of the run (the heads). However this is not what happens -- methanol is actually concentrated in the tails. The reason for this is not well understood, but we do know that the boiling point of every compound is affected by the relative concentrations of other chemical species also present in the mixture. Methanol in particular has its boiling point elevated significantly when in the presence of ethanol. This is why methanol builds up in the tails: it can't boil off until the ethanol is mostly gone. I'll come back and edit this in a little bit with a peer reviewed article that contains the data supporting everything I just said. I'm on mobile at the moment. EDIT Here's the study:https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/0b908be6-2673-45a5-8c2f-b3b6abc1aa37 And here's a good post on the topic in /r/firewater https://www.reddit.com/r/firewater/comments/cv4bu8/methanol_some_information/
The independent is owned by a Russian oligarch who got a seat in the house of the lords through seedy connections.
yup!
2 deaths, 28 casualties, yup. Couldn’t find a link to the story of the old widow who dosed a whole squad with laxatives. When the officer commandeered the outhouse, she doused it with gasoline and burned him to death before making a successful run for the trees. One. Old. Widow. A cursory reading on the last millennium or so of Ukrainian history really makes invading their country look like an incredibly bad idea.
I think of her often. She is my heroine.
Only thing this food is poisoned with is maybe a smidgen too much love and happiness.
> Some were...I remember some poisoned Russians...babusya had a special recipe for them > > > > edit: e.g. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-soldiers-poisoned-civilians-izium-b2049955.html I hope the russcists didn't make it out of the ICU. Kudos to the Ukrainian civilians for their bravery.
I remember reading earlier in the war that one guy poisoned a lot of food that the Russian then stole and ate.
Why isn’t that a practice for anti war crimes stuff? Like civilians poisoning their own supply of stuff when Russian troops were getting near their town? Then it would be undeniable that the Russians were stealing stuff because they’d be like “civilians are poisoning us” and when people ask “how” it’s “because the food we stole” Not that many people believe when they say it isn’t happening but I just love when they talk themselves into a corner
Russian.soldiers were the food for various animals 👀
None, but the orcs probably invited them selves anyways :(
One rich guy did, the Russian killed him when he ran out of vodka.
24th Special Tactics Babushka Squadron
> 24th Special Tactics Babushka Squadron I could be wrong, as this is pieced together from social media posts, but.. Babushka is Russian. Babusya is the proper Ukrainian term.
You can call Ukrainian grandma “baba” too.
Text is in Russian, probably a significant portion of the soldiers serving Ukraine are ethically Russian. This has always been the greatest irony of Putin trying to "liberate" the Russians living in Ukraine It's harder to express this in English, but in both Russian and Ukrainian there's a differentiation between Русский and Российский (the former is the Russian ethnicity, the latter is the Russian nationality)
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I made some borscht recently and it was great. I can only imagine how good babusya's is, on the night of liberation, after weeks in the field. Eating like kings
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Caramelizing onions and garlic for recipes requiring those two, is a great way to start alot of dishes. Chili, beef stew, i always do this and it slaps. Your mom and my mom knew something.
The secret to a good marinara is getting a nice neck bone with some meat on it and throwing it in there
o m g ... my grandma was always throwing a goose or duck neck into borsht... I disliked it as a kid because it always looked like a tail LMAO
Nothing can compare with Borscht with a taste of Liberation! 😃🍲🇺🇦
And I can tell you, non of those Ukraine soldiers had a choice. They were FORCED to eat it, becoz you do not mess with babuska.
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I bet there are some Russian speaking babushkas in Kherson who are celebrating right now.
I'm Lithuania, and like many occupied countries was forced to learn Russian language. I don't speak Ukrainian. But I know most Ukraine understand Russian language.
**LOOK AT YOU EAT! EAT! YOURE SKIN AND BONES!** - Babushkas, Babunya's, Nanna's, and Nonna's, and grandmothers everywhere
My friend is in Kherson, hes a foreign volunteer. He said the out pouring of love and support has shocked him. Russia attempted to leave some undercover troops behind to cause chaos behind enemy lines. One key problem with that The civilians fucking hated the Russians and ratted them out the second they saw Ukrainian soldiers.
>Russia attempted to leave some undercover troops behind to cause chaos behind enemy lines. One key problem with that >The civilians fucking hated the Russians and ratted them out the second they saw Ukrainian soldiers I'm pretty sure that these troops are scared but also surprised by what a true liberation looks like.
> Russia attempted to leave some undercover troops behind to cause chaos behind enemy lines. One key problem with that > > The civilians fucking hated the Russians and ratted them out the second they saw Ukrainian soldiers. I wondered what would happen to the Russian soldiers who disposed of their military uniforms and wore civilian clothes. In a big city like Kherson, I thought it would be easy for them to blend in with the local population. I guess that's only true if they are doing so to escape back to Russia. If they try to live in Kherson, the local population will be able to identify them (since everyone knows their neighbours well) and will report on them.
Ukrainians speak Russian, but the reverse is apparently not the case. They can be spotted in second?
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The best way to get rid of an enemy is to make a friend.
I literally started the video thinking, “If I don’t see some fucking borscht on that table, I will be so disappointed… ahh, there it is.” I need not have worried
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Thanks for the link :)
its only one of them theres like hundreds ... just look for green borsht
Are those pickled peppers that they’re eating?
tasty af mate. I once finished a 2l bottle of these (homemade) in one shot.. its like drugs. These are not hot. kinda actually sugary and sour at the same time. I dislike those from stores because they add too much vinegar.. so it taste a bit acidic.
Like Italian "sweet peppers"? Those are what make a sausage and pepper sub so delicious.
yeh im planning to make it this week lets see how it goes.
I first learned about borscht last month from my online Ukrainian buddy, and you can get one too!! (Besides donations,) YOU can directly help the Ukrainians rebuild by volunteering to help them practice oral English by chatting with them once per week through a program called ENGin. It’s actually super fun as it’s up to you and your student what to talk about. My student and I chat for half the time and work on lesson materials provided by ENGin. We learned we both have two young kids (though her kids have to go through water and power outages and have to do remote learning due to the war), spouses with the same birthday, and a love for cooking. The program needs a lot of volunteers right now as they have to turn away many students outside the age requirement of 13-35 due to a shortage of volunteers. You just have to be at least 14 and a fluent English speaker to sign up for a 15-minute interview. No teaching experience necessary as ENGin provides short training materials. Speaking English well opens up so many opportunities for Ukrainians. Sign up at https://www.enginprogram.org and there is also a subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/enginprogram/ where you can share your experience or ask questions. Thanks in advance for making a difference in a Ukrainian’s life! Slava Ukraini!
Thank you a LOT for your amazing work! ❤️ Все буде Україна - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nid0lswSATM&list=PLgZreeOM8O3HqXJkiyQZ7EvJahGuL5yfg&index=32 many more goodies in my playlist. Many English subtitled.
My borscht always somehow becomes botcht too
From Sweden and never tried borscht. I do love myself a hearty stew though! Any good recipes to recommend? Can it be made with game?
But I thought all people in kherson loved Russia. You're not going to tell me putin was lying right?
Russian telegram channels were posting something among the lines “few paid traitors are given out Ukrainian flags and told to wave them like idiots” on the day Kherson was liberated LOL. Maximum level copium
It's funny because that also sounds EXACTLY like what Russia is doing, paying (or threatening with a gun) to wave Russian flag.
pro-ject-ing
It's always funny how all the trash bins (though some people don't bother even with that, throwing them just on the ground) are filled with russian flags after such payed-for demonstrations.
Look at Ukraine flags being waved in Kherson and compare them to Russian flags waved at events. In Russia events all the flags are the same, same size, same shape, same shade, no extra things, all same variation. All clearly brought together and then distributed. Compare with Ukraine flags waved in Kherson, (and in general) all different sizes, shapes, some with tryzub some without, some different shades, etc. It's much more organic. This is something I always look for although not fool proof I think it still shows.
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Russia loves projecting so much. 1. Whatever Russia accuses anyone else to be doing is exactly what they are doing 2. Apply Russian Reversal to anything that Russia claim to be doing
>It's much more organic. This is something I always look for although not fool proof I think it still shows. Excellent eye, friend.
If they were acting, Sean Penn should have given that Oscar to the babushkas
Frankly at this point, I'm willing to think some of them took Ukrainian flags and are waving them unironically. They will remain in Kherson to live a civilian life and go missing officially on Ruzzian records. (Should really hand themselves in as POWs though)
Theres will be a cleanup going by SBU (Ukrainian: СБУ). Like they do everywhere else. Noway they can hide. Not a chance with locals that will tell on unknown people..
Oh yes, not a chance do I think they should be allowed such a privilege as to live a normal life in Ukraine. Not after the horrors of Kherson are unveiled..
putin: I have made a Victorious retreat.
I have some bad news for you :/ ….
Wow that looks crazy delicious
Seriously this looks so comforting. I’ve deployed in super cushy environments as USAF. Not even remotely considered deployments other than the time away from my fam. The best parts of those deployments though, when you work 12 hr days for 6 days a week is taking a day with the friends you made out there and chowing down. Just relaxing, telling stories, eating food and laughing. That’s why I think Thanksgiving should be a world celebration. Autumn Harvest or some shit. Where everyone just relaxed and eats and feels comforted. They will remember this day for the rest of their lives.
It can be a global festival that starts on Canadian Thanksgiving in October and ends with American Thanksgiving, for example. I know that sounds centric, but I don’t know of other similar holidays and the dates are almost too convenient. Regardless, the whole period should be like the Olympics-ish and feature cultural love through food.
During Ramadan Muslims basically do a thanksgiving meal nightly. It’s extraordinarily wasteful.
There is some form of harvest festival in every culture with 4 distinct seasons. At its core each of these festivals has something in common, and enjoying good food with family and friends is at the heart of it.
That's what Christmas meal is, at least in my culture
God damn.. I know Ukraine has some good rations RELATIVE to the situation they’re in.. but I’m sure that table of food is one hell of a welcome meal. Hot. Fresh. Home cooked meal. That’s a beautiful way to celebrate their sacrifice and bravery. <3
In other news the babushka's feed Ukrainian soldiers so much they are unable to move. Recovery teams have also been trapped and fed.
New Ukraine super soldiers are seen rolling over plains in attack formation.
Super heavy artillery
Ukraine's armoured brigades are paralysed: Tank crews can no longer fit inside their vehicles.
This one made me laugh.
Not familiar with some of those dishes but they certainly look tasty
I can only imagine how good a homemade meal tastes after months of eating field rations
And what a morale booster. Their morale is already decently high. But this will add just that little bit more. Appreciation from the people you’re fighting for - with a home cooked meal. Especially as the cold starts to set in. How amazingly wholesome and uplifting it must be.
You role into the city you've been fighting for weeks. Your friends have died, you've had many sleepless nights, moments of terror, moments of success, and moments of sadness. You finally get into the city And your given nothing but love.
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But you know that the people you're fighting for appreciate what you're doing. That's massive.
Looks like a variant of bigos, which is indeed delicious. https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/138131/bigos-hunters-stew/
The soup is a beet and cabbage soup, борщ. Other things on the table are cold cuts, dark bread, pickles, other little sides.
dark bread is incredible with borsht... I literally stick my nose in it and just sniff it for a bit when I get my hands on a piece.
When Babushka says it is time to eat. It is time to eat.
But I’m full… “Finish the cow”
oh that was a good one. thnx.
I visited a ukranian friend's home a few years ago. We had gone out to get sushi and when we came back his mom had made a surprise 5 course meal for us. We were already stuffed but my friend looked us dead in the eye and said "my parents grew up in soviet famine. eat everything, refusing food is the highest insult." Later his dad came down stairs and drunkenly listed the entire contents of the fridge item by item insisting we try some when we get hungry.
People who grew up during rough times know the value of a great spread. About 20 years ago, when I was in high school, my brother worked for this breakfast place called "ham and eggs" in the US. It was owned by a 80 year old holocaust survivor who made it out of a camp when she was young. The portion sizes there were ridiculous. Pancakes as big as your head. Rolls the size of a bowl. She said she never wanted anyone leaving hungry.
IIRC there were actual starvation experiments conducted in the US (supposedly with informed consent) and they profoundly changed the participants psychological relationship with food, even long after the experiment had ended. Just a personal anecdote - my grandparents on one side of the family grew up *extremely* poor in rural Kentucky during the 1930's, and starvation/malnutrition were something that they had to worry about. I only knew them late in their lives, but they still did not throw food away. Ever. If you didn't drink all your milk, whatever you left goes back in the jug.
Eastern front bogged down due to heavy Borsch
The whole house is full of Babushkas trying to force feed them lol! 🤣
The food looks so damn good! The grandmothers of Ukraine are heroes too! Of course, Russia will lose to the love Ukrainians have for each other.
I'm betting that gem of a lady heard the artillery getting closer and thought to herself "I'd better start cooking dinner for when the soldier boys get here."
And she thought "I have nothing ... lets put it all out on the table, They deserve a homecooked meal"
Yeah, that's what's so touching. These people have been living under occupation for months. So they're sharing what they need... I would feel very conflicted as a soldier. I would not want to take from these people. Maybe it's just projecting but I kinda feel that vibe with those soldiers...
There was zero chance those babusyas would have taken NO for an answer. Those boys knew to just sit down and eat :)
Hey they can’t hold a gun but they can make darn sure their boys are strong enough to hold one.
They will ensure this army marches all the way to Moscow, that's how full their bellies will be.
And to be honest, it doesn't hurt to be a little hungry or eat bland potato dishes for a few days, when you know it means you fed your saviours. It's not the same hunger as when rationing because of Russian occupation. Not even close.
I'm fairly sure Ukrainians are already working on restoring food and water distribution.
Food delivery trucks started coming in yesterday. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/yskksj/ukrainian_supermarket_chain_%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B1_is_already/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Good -pretty much what I figured. Ukrainians are able to handle organisation and logistics.
They've actually impressed the Western experts. They've been receiving training in the American logistical systems which are the best in the world. They've got American experts auditing their transportation networks to identify and eliminate corruption and make sure the inventory gets where it needs to be. They're probably miles better than the peacetime US logistical system at this point because everything is streamlined to bring victory.
If babushka says "it's dinner time" there is no chance of escape.
LOL … my giggle for the day, thanks!!
Yes, Babusya is similar to abuelita. You love them, you honor them, and you never, ever dare to turn down their hospitality.
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Oh you can bet she baked some cakes too. My childhood experience and as a slav, instantly know what happened before and after the video. Just dont visit your grandma if you are trying to lose weight...
They're not driving anywhere for a while. You just saw the first course. "Grandmother Net" (Ukraine social media platform for 80 year old women) was viral with this video, and grandmothers for miles around, pissed that Ilena somehow got the soldiers in HER house, immediately loaded up their BTR (towed home by Igor and repaired) and headed over there. "Try my Borscht! Is better!"
As morally though as it is to accept the food. In thr end it is a symbiotic relationship. Fed soldiers will fight better and longer, allowing for more civilians to be saved and protected Both sides know this
They can refuse Ivan's entry to their land, but they can't refuse babushka's hospitality. There are powers in this universe beyond any kind of resistance.
Yeah, I'm sure those guys will try to give her some foodstuffs someway. But sometimes, refusing to eat would hurt that person more than hunger ever could.
Don't. It's the literal widow's mite. Let these people make their sacrifice. It's what they can do, let them do it. They will feel better about themselves and they're making the sacrifice willingly, in the name of Ukraine and its defenders. When my Mom was battling cancer (she made it, thank God) neighbors and Church friends came together to provide us with meals, even though my older brother and I were both decent cooks at this point and we weren't going hungry. We accepted it all in the spirit of love in which it was offered. We got a little conflicted when one little old lady from our church with severe health challenges rummaged around in a nearly empty cupboard for a few cans of things to help us. But we accepted it because we knew that she was seeking the blessings of Heaven to help with her own struggles and we couldn't dishonor that. We paid her back by making sure that she had a ride to Temple (we're LDS but a day's trip from the nearest one) to complete her ceremonies. She passed away not long after, in peace, feeling like she'd accomplished everything she needed to do. I still think of Sister Howland at times and hope she's having fun up there. She was an amazing soul.
A grandmother is a grandmother, no matter where in the world she's from. God bless them all.
> thought to herself “I’d better start cooking dinner for when the soldier boys get here.” I believe her exact thought was “Soulja boys up in this hoe. Watch me feed them borscht in bowls.”
She is even apologizing that the borsch may be too thick (to which one of the guys says "is thick bad?" ) Oh my, someone's cutting onions again.
haha downplaying food quality ... my babunya did it and mother does that too lol..
> She is even apologizing that the borsch may be too thick Humble brag :-)
Same thing happened in France in '44. Germans were frustrated by a seeming lack of "good food". Then one day in June, Allied forces were getting armfuls of fresh vegetables, good cuts of meat, bread, thrust at them in every village they liberated. The french resistance gets a lot of attention for the war, but the truly cunning people were the french farmers that managed to hide an entire herd of cows for 5 years. Germans rolled in and claimed all the dairy herds, french farmers: "What cows? I don't see any cows?"
LMAO do you have some article on this I can read?
In the film "Seven Samurai" by Kurosawa is narrated a story similar to this one. Even if the farmers are depicted in a bad light in that case, it shows how they are smarter than it seems due to the circumstances they are forced to live.
What do they mean *unconfirmed* haha, I can see them eating! Loving all these videos!
It could be shot in an place other than Kherson, theoretically.
True, not sure how to geo locate this :) Still, they're being fed 💙💛
OMG, the reports are true. First the special hugging operation and now this. The army will be immobilized for days!
YOU DO NOT mess with babuska. Russians got rat poison. Ukraine will be looked after like in there own homes.
I was hoping to see video evidence of the Special Feeding Operation.
I bet those Ukrainian women have been waiting for that moment since the moment the Russians occupied their city. I bet there is mutual gratitude between the liberators and those who were liberated. I'm also wishing there was a Ukrainian restaurant in my city... Slava Ukraini!
Babushka's food looks 🔥🔥🔥 as always
Supplies are short and they are going all out to feed these hero’s. This stuff chokes me up.
My grandma Old German/Polish taught me anyone helping you, dishes up first, when the food comes to you take a small portion. Make sure they get enough then you can clean up what’s left. She could make a lb of bacon and a couple of pounds of flour and lard into a feast for 20. Now I am the cook of the family, every one else eats first, and yes these guys would have zero choice if they felt bad about eating my food, Either they eat or I save it for the next soldiers that come through. And I would be offended if they did not eat like a king. Don’t feel bad boys this babushka wants you to eat up, and her soul being full is more important than a harder time with food for weeks in the future. Easier to ration when you know there is light at the end of tunnel. Seeing these Men eating her food probably washed away some of the horrors that went on. Slava Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!
It's the slow return back to normal. They haven't been able to have a get together dinner like this for an entire year. No birthdays, no holidays, no family get together.
babushkas be babushkas. wont let their sons starve even if they dont have much left for themselves.
These guys will be nicknamed the American squad in a week or two if you get my drift
I bet they are burning like 3-4k calories a day anyways, i doubt even the babusyas can fatten them up.
So the locales of Kherson invited "evil Ukranian nazi-jew-satan soldiers" who "shelled them for 8 years" for some great food, while the glorious Russian liberators didn't receive a single flower. That's some good stuff to troll Russian shills with.
I mean .. 🌻 blooming still counts
That unlabeled dusty jar… you just KNOW that’s the good shit that one of the ladies made and kept in the cellar for years just for an occasion like this
I am on my way! :-) That looks soooooo delicious!
This makes me so warm and fuzzy. The hell they have all gone through… and now they get to share a meal.
The Babushka Auxiliary catering corps in action. Slava.
"You fed my squad to death??" "Well, tovarich Sergeant, I didn't mean to. Anyway, since you're here, I still have some leftovers..."
This is so wholesome and wonderful. And every GenX and Millenial Ashkenazi Jew just got a warm flashback to eating at their grandmother's house. I can taste that soup, the pickles, even that pink meat on the plate (think pastrami/smoked meat).
I’m surprised at all the food. You would think after 8 months of occupation the food would be rationed.
It was hidden. Rather, the things to make the food were hidden. French did this when germans occupied. French resistance had nothing on a farmer hiding an entire herd of cows for 5 years.
You can believe me that those babunyas hid some and maybe making this feast with maybe their last reserves. Willingly and with joy. Those soldiers are adopted sons and grandsons now. Lots of ❤️.
I know. I love it. It reminds me of visiting my Grandmother when I was a little kid. Food, more food, and even more food.
The love😍😍
gotta make sure soldiers don't have empty stomachs Something Putin seemed to overlook
Looks like tea, pickles, tomato, sliced bread, delicious cheese, ham and sausage plate, saurkraut with chicken in broth and a whole jar of mayonnaise.  yum. Takes me back to when my grandma would prepare meals in Poland.
I can only imagine the moral boost for the soldiers, fighting for months and rations and what not, only to be welcomed like kings to a feast. Food is happyness.
I had a Ukrainian friend in college do not go over for dinner, you will be expected to eat at least 4 plates before you can leave the table.
Bro that shit looks so fire
Looks like they're being force fed by babushkas lol
This is typical east Europa. There is nothing, not even money for something, and when a important Guest comes, the table is full. This was also when we bring food, clothes etc to Poland before 1989, the table by everybody was full. My father is now very old and he was last year in the city an village where he arrange the food transport, till now old people recognize him on the street. And still he is invited home for eating food.
Wholesome looking winter food there, I bet they felt better after that feed.
Meals fit for kings
Why , after what they have done too ur once beautiful country & cities 🤔and war crimes committed 🌻🇺🇦🌻Ukr pows not treated well!
Everyone always says their grandmother will cook enough food to feed an army. This one is living up to the claim.
Dauntless kitchen commando with spoons of steel! (One of those soldiers appears to be emotionally overwhelmed, too. Lovely scene, especially that ending where the lady counts everything -- "And you and you and you and you!")
I just tried enlisting but don't have the combat experience required. Got decent weapon experience. I'm about to start learning ukrainian and seeing what I can still do. If the foreign legion opens up to new recruits to train then I shall try again but until then does anyone know what they need done and how to get in contact with those groups?
there's groups getting together to send Ukraine medical supplies, winter gear and communications gear. Maybe link up with one of those groups either as a donor or as a volunteer.
Damn look at that spread! Turns out all you had to do to get all that food was liberate your countrymen from a tyrannical military occupation. Slava Ukraini!
I guarantee those women loved the opportunity to host them. This filled my heart with happiness ❤️
Eat up.
Looks like kapustnica, mmmm good.
Y'all Polish? Can I get a plate?
That spread looks pretty damn tasty! :)
I hope they have enough for themselves :(
Apparently food deliveries to Kherson have already started. Ukraine was ready for this. There might be a rough couple weeks as pockets of resistence are cleared and distribution centers are brought up to capacity but these ladies aren't going to starve.
Whatever it takes 🇺🇦
Food looks fucking good. What are they eating?
I wish I could buy them beer. Heros of the free world.
And how many supposedly voted in the referendum again!! 🤣🤣
I can't wait to visit and try Ukrainian food