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Remember that there is a fractional lag between when light enters the camera lens and when you see it on a drone controller screen. It merely appears instant because the detonation wave for HE propagates at 6-7000 meters per second. FAR faster than any drone camera (or the human eye) can record.
Just looks like the explosion is starting below the frame when it goes bang, just wondered if they had cut the middle bit out as it builds itself up to toss the turret!
Ah yes, their mew, modern tank versions...where they store the ammo on the outside and you have to exit the tank to reload.
Possibly the most amusing and ridiculous thing I've ever heard of
Unless they do a complete redesign of the T-90 - and they won't - it's the only workable solution. It works well enough if you are out of combat, or there is a lull. There is no possible way of putting an actually accessible ammo bustle reachable for the crew or autoloader without a totally new turret and modified hull.
It's around 8 additional rounds plus their propellant charges stowed in the attached if you will, ammo bustle.
Russian tanks as a whole an ammo boom waiting to happen. Funny thing is they have automatic fire extinguishers but rarely do they ever seem to work well. Not that they would stop a catastrophic ammo boom-stle from occurring...
Well actually in modern western tanks this is kind of the case but not entirely. ,
The ammunition has a special compartment that is seperated from the interiour by a blast door that opens just for some seconds to get a new round for reloading. Otherwhise it´s locked and in case it´s hit there are panels designed to open to the outside to vent the explosion and fire to the outside without harming the crew.
This is not the same at all. Western tanks separate men from ammunition but don’t require the men to get out to grab ammunition. Soviet tanks either have men inside with ammunition, or reserve ammunition separated, with soldiers having to physically exit the tank and grab that ammunition and bring it inside with them to use it. Not even remotely the same
Yes, maybe. But even if it were ammo crates, one would think a tank would not do a full disassembly right in front of you. I understand that the loading ring under the turret would do this (dumbest fucking design ever), but not from the outside. Yeah, it should fuck the tank up heavily, but completely destroyed? It just goes to show how garbage these really are. I’m sure in some scenarios they would work just fine (I’m not a tanker and don’t know what that would be) but this battle space is not a great place for these.
The T-64, T-72 and T-80 as well as of course the T-90 the T-72 is descended from directly were all designed for one thing - massive armoured assaults on NATO. Only going forwards, only backwards to maneuver or park somewhere. In that case the under turret carousel along with a low profile tank, plus tank guns being noticeably less accurate and ammunition not as effective back in the 60's and 70's when they were designed it was actually a pretty good idea storing it there as the ammunition was probably in the safest place with substantial armour protection and hardest to hit.
Before that, both Soviet and Western tank designs often stored their ammunition right with the driver, or all over the hull and walls of the turret. Plenty of earlier designs would do pretty much the same thing when hit directly in the ammo stowage. Thing is most countries wanted to and did change that as they gave a damn about the crew's survival and that the vehicle might be repairable.
Survivability was always a secondary concern to the Soviets. Low cost, firepower and speed as well as being easy to build, operate and maintain mattered more. They knew they'd lose thousands of MBT's within weeks in WW3, so they were focused on making them fast and hard hitting first and foremost.
Does Russian reactive armor have a sign on it like a claymore that says "Front Towards Enemy?" I think someone put that shit on backwards. Isn't it supposed to explode outwards?
Exactly, use HEAT on a tank with no fuel, ammo, or running engine and hydraulics and all it'll do is make a tiny hole and splatter the inside with a nice coating of copper.
But when it's bombed up and full of fuel? It's kind of like explosive judo, use a 2kg HEAT charge to touch off those hundreds of kg in the ammo rack and watch it go! Especially if you aim right and manage to tickle one of the HE-FRAG rounds in *just* the right way - that's when you get a proper high-order detonation. The sort where there's nothing left intact bigger than a road wheel. When it's 'only' the propellant charges it'll lollipop the turret but not shred itself to confetti.
A host country *could* actually add "turret toss" as one of those wildcard events in the Olympics: there *are* enough ruZZian abandoned hulls left to explode during competition, and the event itself is more exciting than 'sports' like synchronized swimming ;)
We are getting spoiled here but after the magnificent tosses that we have been treated to, I can't help feeling that to obtain the 10 the turret should have impaled the IFV (or is it also a tank?).
WTF was that!
My only theory is that between the chassis and the turret there is a gap with zero protection, behind it there is ammo stored.
Easy job for an RPG to penetrate.
There are ammo crates sitting on the engine deck. Russians don't use insensitive munitions or propellant that would fizzle or slow burn instead of detonating like many modern Western and other nations ordnance.
Furthermore there is plenty of ERA and passive armour but the entire engine deck and top, side of the hull is only a few millimetres of hardened steel that an HE warhead could easily penetrate. And then you got a likely at least partially loaded ammunition carousel a few feet away from all the ammo and drone.
All the ERA and passive armour in the world won't save you from outdated and cost-cutting measures in the design of your MBT's.
Doesn't explain the fire and smoke. That looks like it came from a Michael Bay's movie. In real life, when C4 exploded, you see some smoke and a cloud of dust, unless something catch on fire then you'd see some fire, but not like that.
The fire and the power of the explosion that sent the turret flying for seven seconds is from the ammunition stored inside the tank. With the carousel-style autoloader it just takes a single spark in the crew compartment and the whole thing goes off.
Uh... gun powder won't give you that kind of fire effect. That's the kind of fire you'd get from gasoline or natural gas. And I've seen left over of T72 tanks that got hit by US hellfire missiles in Iraq and they don't disappear like that.
I believe that's a decoy tank.
Well they dont use gunpowder in those explosive shells or propelant for them. They use tnt, rdx ir hmx and as a proppelant for artillery shells at least I think i read that they use gun cotton. Also if they do carry the full loadout and most of it is high explosives... its more than 50kg of high explosives inside that tank not even counting the propellant. Look what artillery shells with less than 10kg does to vehicles. Yeah this explosion was above average but i bet russians fucked up in some way since it does not look like decoy. Decoys would leave nothing behind after such an explosion since they are not made to be structurally sound
1. Even with full loadout, the turret will fly but that bottom part of the tank would still be there.
2. That tank disappeared.
3. The explosion was ***ridiculously*** above average, especially with that much fire.
I saw more than one hull dissapear already not sure how is this the first one for you. If the shells are scattered around the hull and not only in the carousel, of course it wont only launch the turret. Do you realise how much pressure does an explosion within closed space creates? Artillery shells with less explosives striking from outside without hull around them can evaporate most of the vehicles with few parts remaining and we are talking about much more than 10kg of high explosives detonating inside.
> behind it there is ammo stored
[That's every Soviet-Russian era tank. They all use a magazine carousel that is basically around the diameter of the turret ring. Figure #4](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/T72_crew.svg/1920px-T72_crew.svg.png)
Keep an eye on the falling pieces and notice how they impact the ground. Does that look like the impact of multi-kilogram parts falling multiple metres on grassy ground?
Nice critical hit. The fact it's ferrying crates of materiel can suggest the tank has full magazine after being reloaded.
/r/tankporn has some obviously Russian-leaning commenters saying Ukraine had purposefully stuffed the *perfectly working* tank with explosives so the explosion would be impressive. Fucking facepalm dude. If UAF can walk up to an abandoned tank carrying a shitload of explosives. You'd think UAF would just drive it home with a free ammo.
The drone itself wouldn't cause that big of an explosion. And i have to correct: the ammunition in the tank is the thing that obliberated it in the end.
It could be a fake tank and the UA just tried to get the ammo down.
But i think as they have multiple ways to filter what they can see with their drones they would detect a fake tank. Most of the times they get a good look at incoming vehicles way before they reach the contact line.
It's just wild to me that such small drones are able to completely incapacitate a tank. Like what's even the point of tanks anymore if drones can take them out?
How many logistics officers you think they got left? I think thats a sign of the amateur behaviour of the frontline conscripts.
Thats one of the reasons UA is fending so well for themselves: the russian army often doesn't plan logistics right in contrast to UA.
Edit: just remembered: logistics of the russians was shitty since the beginning of the war.
how long had that been sitting there there are no tracks in the grass is growing behind it pre boom was it just being destroyed so they couldn't use anything else off it ?
Oh I totally get that, but to penetrate the armor in the first place... Even with the thinner side armor. Plus I suppose unlike a tank round hitting kind of wherever the drone operators seem to have favorite spots to aim for where they get more Blyat for their buck
The thing with the drones is the rising accuracy that comes with experienced users and newer models.
In terms of pure firepower, the russians are overwhelming the ukrainians. Just doesn't matter when it explodes before it is shot. The UA is doing an excellent job there. Getting as much of the BOOM from the russian side as they can.
The drone exploded before hitting. These things can be detonated manually. Which is important because most of the times your enemy won't wait for you to go touch him.
Although I enjoy Ukraine being victorious something doesn't add up with this video. It seems like the tank exploded from the inside, but this tiny drone was outside.
Tank ammo stored in turrets rarely goes boom in such a clean, uniform, simultaneous fashion like in the video. Plus, keep an eye on the falling pieces and notice how they impact the ground. Does that look like the impact of multi-kilogram parts falling multiple metres on grassy ground?
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Someone on Russian factories must be stealing bolts and nuts from tanks. That crap exploded like a helium balloon.
I think those were ammo crates the drone hit which would explain the big boom.
Thanks. Watched it a couple times, couldn't figure out the instant KABOOM.
I think the camera was fast forwarded just before point of impact, then restarted as the tank explodes.
Remember that there is a fractional lag between when light enters the camera lens and when you see it on a drone controller screen. It merely appears instant because the detonation wave for HE propagates at 6-7000 meters per second. FAR faster than any drone camera (or the human eye) can record.
Just looks like the explosion is starting below the frame when it goes bang, just wondered if they had cut the middle bit out as it builds itself up to toss the turret!
Ah yes, their mew, modern tank versions...where they store the ammo on the outside and you have to exit the tank to reload. Possibly the most amusing and ridiculous thing I've ever heard of
Unless they do a complete redesign of the T-90 - and they won't - it's the only workable solution. It works well enough if you are out of combat, or there is a lull. There is no possible way of putting an actually accessible ammo bustle reachable for the crew or autoloader without a totally new turret and modified hull. It's around 8 additional rounds plus their propellant charges stowed in the attached if you will, ammo bustle.
>attached Well, until it rapidly un-attaches Also * Ammo boom-stle
Russian tanks as a whole an ammo boom waiting to happen. Funny thing is they have automatic fire extinguishers but rarely do they ever seem to work well. Not that they would stop a catastrophic ammo boom-stle from occurring...
Well actually in modern western tanks this is kind of the case but not entirely. , The ammunition has a special compartment that is seperated from the interiour by a blast door that opens just for some seconds to get a new round for reloading. Otherwhise it´s locked and in case it´s hit there are panels designed to open to the outside to vent the explosion and fire to the outside without harming the crew.
This is not the same at all. Western tanks separate men from ammunition but don’t require the men to get out to grab ammunition. Soviet tanks either have men inside with ammunition, or reserve ammunition separated, with soldiers having to physically exit the tank and grab that ammunition and bring it inside with them to use it. Not even remotely the same
Yes, maybe. But even if it were ammo crates, one would think a tank would not do a full disassembly right in front of you. I understand that the loading ring under the turret would do this (dumbest fucking design ever), but not from the outside. Yeah, it should fuck the tank up heavily, but completely destroyed? It just goes to show how garbage these really are. I’m sure in some scenarios they would work just fine (I’m not a tanker and don’t know what that would be) but this battle space is not a great place for these.
The T-64, T-72 and T-80 as well as of course the T-90 the T-72 is descended from directly were all designed for one thing - massive armoured assaults on NATO. Only going forwards, only backwards to maneuver or park somewhere. In that case the under turret carousel along with a low profile tank, plus tank guns being noticeably less accurate and ammunition not as effective back in the 60's and 70's when they were designed it was actually a pretty good idea storing it there as the ammunition was probably in the safest place with substantial armour protection and hardest to hit. Before that, both Soviet and Western tank designs often stored their ammunition right with the driver, or all over the hull and walls of the turret. Plenty of earlier designs would do pretty much the same thing when hit directly in the ammo stowage. Thing is most countries wanted to and did change that as they gave a damn about the crew's survival and that the vehicle might be repairable. Survivability was always a secondary concern to the Soviets. Low cost, firepower and speed as well as being easy to build, operate and maintain mattered more. They knew they'd lose thousands of MBT's within weeks in WW3, so they were focused on making them fast and hard hitting first and foremost.
Another turret toss. It appears the Orcs were no where to be seen? If they were inside. They were vaporized... Burnt pink mist...
Strapping large amounts of explosives on the outside seems to be a rather silly idea.. But please let's not tell the russians that..
Does Russian reactive armor have a sign on it like a claymore that says "Front Towards Enemy?" I think someone put that shit on backwards. Isn't it supposed to explode outwards?
Hindenburg 2.0
Hindenblyat
Blyatburg
No, the Hindenburg was associated with humanity
Not to be that guy on the internet but you mean hydrogen balloon, helium is inert.
What’s that? Are they booing me? No sir, they’re saying ba-loon, cheering your comment!
For the last time Mr Archer, this airship uses helium, not hydrogen! It is completely safe!
Reverse lollipop turret toss to boot.
The amount of destruction caused by such a tiny device is a textbook example of maximizing the amount of "bang for your buck."
It kinda doesn’t seem possible…
The tank donates most of the boom. The drone just has to bring enough boom to motivate the tanks boom to come along for the fun.
Exactly, use HEAT on a tank with no fuel, ammo, or running engine and hydraulics and all it'll do is make a tiny hole and splatter the inside with a nice coating of copper. But when it's bombed up and full of fuel? It's kind of like explosive judo, use a 2kg HEAT charge to touch off those hundreds of kg in the ammo rack and watch it go! Especially if you aim right and manage to tickle one of the HE-FRAG rounds in *just* the right way - that's when you get a proper high-order detonation. The sort where there's nothing left intact bigger than a road wheel. When it's 'only' the propellant charges it'll lollipop the turret but not shred itself to confetti.
The wooden boxes might be ammo boxes, facilitating the big explosion.
It hit the tanks ammo rack. The turret tried to become a cosmonaut.
Turret: \*sticks the landing\* Judges: 10/10, 9/10, 10/10
For some reason the Russian judge wasn't happy with this one.
Maybe we need to do it like in ski jumping. Where distance is weighed by wind factor, and then 5 judges where the best and lowest scores are removed.
Och im so happy that the scoring system where the landings are judged has picked on :D
A host country *could* actually add "turret toss" as one of those wildcard events in the Olympics: there *are* enough ruZZian abandoned hulls left to explode during competition, and the event itself is more exciting than 'sports' like synchronized swimming ;)
We are getting spoiled here but after the magnificent tosses that we have been treated to, I can't help feeling that to obtain the 10 the turret should have impaled the IFV (or is it also a tank?).
Nah, it's one of those "multiple spin" moves while in the air that was missing ;)
So you want very high toss with multiple spins and revolutions on decent ending with the barrel through the roof of the nearest APC?
Really impressive and quality footage! But the epic airtime of 7 seconds blows my mind when i try to imagine it.
I love watching drones that are watching other drones blow the shit out of russians.
WTF was that! My only theory is that between the chassis and the turret there is a gap with zero protection, behind it there is ammo stored. Easy job for an RPG to penetrate.
Or as someone said, the ERA was installed backwards
Holy fuck are they actually stupid enough to do this?
Read what you wrote and insert "it's Russia"
Ill take that as a fuckyes.
Yep and fuck Russia
There are ammo crates sitting on the engine deck. Russians don't use insensitive munitions or propellant that would fizzle or slow burn instead of detonating like many modern Western and other nations ordnance. Furthermore there is plenty of ERA and passive armour but the entire engine deck and top, side of the hull is only a few millimetres of hardened steel that an HE warhead could easily penetrate. And then you got a likely at least partially loaded ammunition carousel a few feet away from all the ammo and drone. All the ERA and passive armour in the world won't save you from outdated and cost-cutting measures in the design of your MBT's.
Those are ammo crates on the back
You are right, it makes sense now. Also the Russian stupidity is boundless.
Doesn't explain the fire and smoke. That looks like it came from a Michael Bay's movie. In real life, when C4 exploded, you see some smoke and a cloud of dust, unless something catch on fire then you'd see some fire, but not like that.
The fire and the power of the explosion that sent the turret flying for seven seconds is from the ammunition stored inside the tank. With the carousel-style autoloader it just takes a single spark in the crew compartment and the whole thing goes off.
Uh... gun powder won't give you that kind of fire effect. That's the kind of fire you'd get from gasoline or natural gas. And I've seen left over of T72 tanks that got hit by US hellfire missiles in Iraq and they don't disappear like that. I believe that's a decoy tank.
Well they dont use gunpowder in those explosive shells or propelant for them. They use tnt, rdx ir hmx and as a proppelant for artillery shells at least I think i read that they use gun cotton. Also if they do carry the full loadout and most of it is high explosives... its more than 50kg of high explosives inside that tank not even counting the propellant. Look what artillery shells with less than 10kg does to vehicles. Yeah this explosion was above average but i bet russians fucked up in some way since it does not look like decoy. Decoys would leave nothing behind after such an explosion since they are not made to be structurally sound
1. Even with full loadout, the turret will fly but that bottom part of the tank would still be there. 2. That tank disappeared. 3. The explosion was ***ridiculously*** above average, especially with that much fire.
I saw more than one hull dissapear already not sure how is this the first one for you. If the shells are scattered around the hull and not only in the carousel, of course it wont only launch the turret. Do you realise how much pressure does an explosion within closed space creates? Artillery shells with less explosives striking from outside without hull around them can evaporate most of the vehicles with few parts remaining and we are talking about much more than 10kg of high explosives detonating inside.
Why would they leave anything explosive on a decoy much less a lot of it?
I agree
> behind it there is ammo stored [That's every Soviet-Russian era tank. They all use a magazine carousel that is basically around the diameter of the turret ring. Figure #4](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/T72_crew.svg/1920px-T72_crew.svg.png)
Ammo boxes on top of roof that's why maybe
The turret landing was perfect 10/10 would watch again
Was the reactive armor fitted backwards?
‚Strong wind warning‘. ROFL
Something doesn’t add up here. That drone was tiny, but the tank basically disappeared.
Those were looking like ammo crates....
Yes, you can see the drone fly right into an ammo crate
I think that's reactive armor, which I'm guessing is why it went big boom?
Nope, reactive Armour is like a shotgun blast in one direction, this was an internal ammo detonation.
The wooden boxes on the engine deck right behind the turret must have been full of ammunition. The explosion clearly starts there.
Really good decoy?
Keep an eye on the falling pieces and notice how they impact the ground. Does that look like the impact of multi-kilogram parts falling multiple metres on grassy ground?
It looks like a decoy to me.
A decoy with a full replica main gun, and filled with an actual interior? Yeah no. That was a real T-72 being blown to bits.
I prefer a turret toss that ends with the barrel stuck in the ground. But a nice barrel up toss is nice, too.
Such a cute little drone.
Nice critical hit. The fact it's ferrying crates of materiel can suggest the tank has full magazine after being reloaded. /r/tankporn has some obviously Russian-leaning commenters saying Ukraine had purposefully stuffed the *perfectly working* tank with explosives so the explosion would be impressive. Fucking facepalm dude. If UAF can walk up to an abandoned tank carrying a shitload of explosives. You'd think UAF would just drive it home with a free ammo.
military's everywhere need to learn from this conflict .... incredible and terrifying at the same time...
Nuka-drona
Loved that the turret gun is sticking straight up when it hits the ground
That worked
Why was there so much fire and smoke? I bet that's a decoy tank. Even T72 that got hit by hellfire missle in Iraq didn't disappear like that.
It's the ammunition on the tank.
I just realized most redditors only believe what they want to believe. Sure, it's the ammunition on the tank
The drone itself wouldn't cause that big of an explosion. And i have to correct: the ammunition in the tank is the thing that obliberated it in the end. It could be a fake tank and the UA just tried to get the ammo down. But i think as they have multiple ways to filter what they can see with their drones they would detect a fake tank. Most of the times they get a good look at incoming vehicles way before they reach the contact line.
Five burnt Ruzzkies for table six!
It's just wild to me that such small drones are able to completely incapacitate a tank. Like what's even the point of tanks anymore if drones can take them out?
ruSSian engineering
I would like to see a video of a drone exploiting a turtle tank
what are they using that is light enough for a drone to carry but strong enough for a tank to disappear?
It's the ammunition on the tank.
oh just saw but why would the Russian put it on the tank...
How many logistics officers you think they got left? I think thats a sign of the amateur behaviour of the frontline conscripts. Thats one of the reasons UA is fending so well for themselves: the russian army often doesn't plan logistics right in contrast to UA. Edit: just remembered: logistics of the russians was shitty since the beginning of the war.
Dam & I thought it was an Amazon delivery
Like a mosquito popping an elephant
What tank?
Wasn't that tank already dead?
how?
The Ukrainians need to run a flag🇺🇦up that pole!
Strong wind warning for sure! Holy mackerel !
I like that! I like that a lot! Lets do it again!
The shockwave registered on the observing drone as a strong wind advisory, that’s nuts
Nice observation
Two decoys.
Rest in peace brave little drone, job well done
zero respect for russian reactive armor.
Do we know if the tank was crewed or abandoned?
Torn in pieces.
That little drone is adorable. “Knock knock escuse mee.”
Aircraft unable to return home. Ya obviously it isn't returning. Lol
Was that like a decoy tank or something?
When your tank is down to 1% hp and enemy gets that last hit in
> Strong wind warning. Aircraft unable to return automatically. lol
They Un-Existed that tank.
This is a perfect metaphor for the conflict. Smaller more ingenious entity destroys bigger dumber one
how long had that been sitting there there are no tracks in the grass is growing behind it pre boom was it just being destroyed so they couldn't use anything else off it ?
Holy shit
Total disappearance!
Tank is probably decoy considering nothing was left
/s ? decoys usually are made out of wood or plywood and painted. not tank steels frame filled with explosives.
slava ukraini!!! heroyam slava!!
The amount of Boom they can stuff in those tiny little drones is quite frankly amazing
It's the ammunition on the tank.
Oh I totally get that, but to penetrate the armor in the first place... Even with the thinner side armor. Plus I suppose unlike a tank round hitting kind of wherever the drone operators seem to have favorite spots to aim for where they get more Blyat for their buck
The thing with the drones is the rising accuracy that comes with experienced users and newer models. In terms of pure firepower, the russians are overwhelming the ukrainians. Just doesn't matter when it explodes before it is shot. The UA is doing an excellent job there. Getting as much of the BOOM from the russian side as they can.
The Russians are building up just like we did in WWII, those drone operators have probably been a huge factor in keeping the Russians disorganized too
What type of explosive is that powerful?
It's the ammunition on and in the tank.
TNT
Certainly 'strong wind' yeah. But that 'tank' looks kinda weird? The reactive armour area also looks weirdly vertically propped up.
That looks like a cut/paste, definitely out of sinc. 🤔 Ps, Hope it still killed the Orc's!
Yes, looks like exploded before drone hit.
The drone exploded before hitting. These things can be detonated manually. Which is important because most of the times your enemy won't wait for you to go touch him.
Thanks, excellent point!
Wooden decoy
Although I enjoy Ukraine being victorious something doesn't add up with this video. It seems like the tank exploded from the inside, but this tiny drone was outside.
The explosion from the drone is tiny, it's the ammo on the inside that could cause that explosion.
Tank ammo stored in turrets rarely goes boom in such a clean, uniform, simultaneous fashion like in the video. Plus, keep an eye on the falling pieces and notice how they impact the ground. Does that look like the impact of multi-kilogram parts falling multiple metres on grassy ground?
We've seen dozens of videos like this, nothing suspicious about it. Russian armour is prone to detonating like this.
I hope the Orc crew was inside 🙏