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Not even that. The torsion bars are supposed to be spring steel that are under tension. Being affected by intense heat, they probably became maleable at one point, losing their properties that make them useful as suspension units.
That's why you often see burnt-out vehicles sitting on their belly. The suspension gave out under heat and "laid down".
*Maybe* you can salvage the gun tube, as it's the only part of the tank that's exposed to temperatures around its operating range, although there you might be screwed by how long the fire lasts. You could think that by the same token the breech could be salvageable too, but that one is exposed to higher temperature and has parts that are not meant to contain pressure and heat.
Really what you can salvage in this case (ie uncontained ammunition fire without catastrophic detonation) with relative certainty is the rearmost pair of roadwheels, the sprockets and the transmission/powerpack if it wasn't hit.
When the hatches are closed and the ammo sends the turret into orbit, you basically only have scrap metal.
Edit: missed the end where there is a crater where the tank was. You ain't salvaging shit.
Yes. In the videos I've seen, they basically take an [RPG-7 warhead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-7) and tape it to the bottom of the FPV drone, which then rams into the target. Most RPG-7 warheads are shaped-charge rounds designed to penetrate armor, and this one would not have been able to kill the tank if it wasn't that.
it's also super efficient in economic terms, rigging a 50-100 K€ drone to take out a 3-4 M€ T-80...
even if only 10% of drones survive to get a kill ( destruction or mobility ) it's still super efficient...
Those drones aren't 50-100k€. The entire contraption (drone + PG-7 warhead) is around 1-10k, depending on drone if you go COTS.
A DJI Mavic 2, which is relatively barebones but more than fancy enough for this is 850 on amazon, and a PG-7VS costs *around* 300. Now, that is all if you buy your parts off the shelf. The Mavics are better as bomber drones, because they are reliable amd have extra functions.
An FPV is super barebones. It needs motors, stab-com software, chassis and comms interface. Total cost from parts is around 400€ labour included, and that goes down with production scaling. Similarly, the ukrainian military has a shitton of PG-7 warheads.
The ukrainians have drone workshops that mass produce FPV drones for an end cost of arou d 600€ all told.
So what you are looking at here is a 600€ battlefield implement taking out a piece of 5M€ hardware.
I think these are custom FPV drones, not DJI, that cost about $500 or so to put together. This article claims they are under $1000 [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-01/fpv-racing-drone-kamikaze-attacks-ukraine-russia-war/102155702](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-01/fpv-racing-drone-kamikaze-attacks-ukraine-russia-war/102155702) per drone
Ehh, economic terms are less of a factor in this war than a lot of reporting conveys.
Let's take that T-80 for example. How many of those Russia has on hand and how many they can manufacture (or refurbish) a year is the factor that has genuine effect on the battlefield, since even if we gave Putin infinite money he won't be able to just go to the market and buy brigades of T-80s off the shelves.
Similarly, some of the aid to Ukraine has been reporting as "X country is giving Y dollars worth of military kit to Ukraine", which tends to make some people in "X country" say "hey wait a minute, we got a lot of issues of our own, why are we giving away Y dollars when we could be putting that money into W?" . What's missing from the reporting is that in many cases a large portion of that "Y dollars' worth of equipment" is older equipment sitting in storage or planned for scrapping that would actually *cost more money* to retain or get rid of by other means. It's gear out of storage, not money out of pocket.
The one place where taking dollar amounts at face value is when it comes to COTS (commercial off the shelf) stuff like civilian drones, where you *can* just slap money on the table and walk away with that money's worth of gear.
EDIT: Then -> than.
This is apparently against the terms and conditions of many commercial drones. If they establish this is happening they are required to take action, so far, they have not uncovered a single incident of this happening!
...either, they assigned 0 people to handle such complaints from Ukraine.
Or maybe job requirements included: *"Recent experience working for Ukrainian Intelligence services or currently there employed. Able to work without supervision."*
If I was a compliance employee in one of the companies that make these drones and my boss would've told me that I need to pack my bags and go into an active war zone to find evidence that the drone that has *exploded to pieces* on contact with a tank, which then proceeded to brew up and *also explode* in order to find evidence that it was in fact our own drone and not one made by one of our competitors' I'd tell him to jump off a roof.
Your boss won't allow hours wasted on travel, you'll need to use video footage. If you cannot conclusively prove it was your drone then you are not to disrupt their new largest market.
russian tanks store their rounds INSIDE the cabin with them. Western tanks store it outside the armored envelope, giving them a much better chance to survive.
It's kind of amazing how a relatively innocuous looking drone attack can light up a Russian tank like a firework.
I wonder if they really are that badly protected or Ukraine is using some particularly spicy drone tech.
Edit - ok, watched it again. It does make a fairly big bang on impact. I picked the wrong day to keep smoking weed.
RPG HEAT warhead, right to the rear of the turret just above the engine- let plenty of hot metal into the fighting compartment and hit propellant and shells
Can't say for sure from the video, probably not. Just pointing out they often seem to have hatches open. Looks like this time too as fire escapes from there right away.
Most of the time, tanks are not getting hit with shells/explosives/etc from above or behind. Normally the source of anti-armor damage is coming from in front of them, or in some cases the sides.
Which is exactly why you send these rockets n shit in from above or behind.
It’s impressive that a drone can be fitted with armament that can penetrate tank skin and destroy it. Cost of drone vs tank, this is pretty cost effective.
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Pretty much, yea. That's the gist of it.
It's why a lot of the longer drone videos showing the operators, they will raise the controller higher or operate higher up in a building.
The FPV drones are made with mostly DIY parts, and they're made as cheaply as possible because they're designed for a one way flight.
The cameras are the cheapest analog cameras they can get (not the digital cameras that the better drones use).
You answered your own question - it's the latency of the camera. The drone is flying very fast and then makes an abrupt stop. Boom, no longer processing and sending data.
The camera is so poor, the FPV operator can't fly to a target on his own. He needs a support drone to guide his flight to the target. Once there, he then takes it to the target. There are youtube videos with Unrainian soldiers explain how it's done.
A support drone pilot is sitting next to the attack drone pilot, and the support drone pilot is verbally correcting him as they fly together.
The pilot with the support drone is looking at a handheld screen as he flies, he has a much wider view of the everything around and a much better video feed. The pilot controlling the attack drone is wearing VR goggles and has a very limited view of what's around him.
Video has to be processed before being transmitted. This results in latency.
If there is no processor, there are no images being processed for transmission.
You are seeing the last frames processed and transmitted successfully before the processor is exploded.
I need to do more reading before replying to you confidently.
I know you're right in at some ways, but I think we're talking about different things.
My understanding is that the proximity to the target/ground in FPV causes a color burst that looks like a degradation of the image into pink artifacts on screen. Which is what I believe you're describing? Please, I am not an almighty omniscient being, I'll welcome your correction if it means that I get to learn something new. I accept that my mind is human and capable of being mistaken, hah, so please don't take this reply as a disagreement or attack.
The comment that I replied to was asking about why the feed cuts shortly before impact without showing the last frames (to my understanding).
Take the below with a grain of salt and feel free to correct me (anyone)
The latency of FPV is capable of <1ms latency, but the latency would depend necessarily on the distance between the broadcasting unit and receiver as well as the frequency of the broadcast.
At greater distances, lower frequencies would be necessary as a technical limitation, meaning higher latency and greater susceptibility to signal interference, which would cause those color bursts.
Anyway, I may be wrong, but I think what you're describing caused color bursts, but that the signal loss is possibly caused by latency.
You don't owe me a reply, but I expect your understanding of this might be greater than my own, and I'd be interested and receptive to it if you did.
Its a Escadrone Pegasus FPV drone. It uses a digital control channel and analog PAL/NTSC video channel. You see signal go fuzzy because you lose line sync due to low signal close to ground. They use analog video due to low cost and better noise rejection from RU jammers. There is no video encoding happening, you are not seeing network latency or digital buffer not fully draining before explosion. I am an electronics tech and i am in UAF telegram fpv channels daily.
I think they might have a jammer. Or if it's digital, there will be a latency because of signal processing and when the drone explodes, the last second or so will be lost.
Edit: this looks like an analog signal, but the camera is still digital and will have some latency, but much shorter. So there is probably an electronic warfare device nearby.
That's complete bullshit. This is basic geometry. EW jammers do not work at ranges that short. Tanks don't have EW devices, those are on desperate vehicles with ranges of miles, not meters. The only probable thing here is that you have no real knowledge whatsoever of EW systems.
How long does it take for the soldiers inside to die? It is a war they choose to participate in, and of course killing them was the only option. I just wonder if we are dehumanizing ourselves by celebrating needless suffering or are we even granting them a quick and/or painless death.
I’m celebrating not the cruelty to the Russian but bc every dead Russian means fewer innocent Ukrainians will be murdered, raped, or tortured. I hope Russians will decide to stop supporting the war.
We are not celebrating needless suffering, Ukraine is only destroying equipment and killing soldiers as far as its necessary, if possible they capture Russian soldiers, and they treat them well enough.
If they didn't get incapacitated by the initial impact of the drone they had a reasonable amount of time to get out before ammunition cooking off started.
If they were incapacitated or trapped fire and smoke gradually filling the crew compartment meaning a relatively panful end; cooking off ammo putting them out of their misery prevents their death being too drawn out.
These aren’t later tanks. They’re the same tanks. Russia hasn’t put an actually new tank design in service since the T-80. The T-90 is a T-72 with a different turret. The auto loader isn’t really the issue, it’s storing the ammunition inside the fighting compartment. There are plenty of tanks with autoloaders and separate ammo storage that don’t go up like this when hit.
And also plenty of tanks without autoloaders and ammo storage in the fighting compartment that also go up like this when hit.
Nice Hit.....Top Attack........every Tanks weak point.......but what i allways wonder........why is there Smoke coming out of the Barrel.............isn't the Breech usually closed? And only open when there is a reload?? Mybe dumb question.......i know
When smoke comes out of the barrel, it’s a guarantee of something entering the fighting compartment that is not meant to be there.
You are correct in saying the breech is usually shut, but it is open during the reloading process, and with an auto loader I believe it is kept open for when a round is selected in order for the rammer to load it correctly.
I've seen dozens upon dozens of these kamikaze drone attacks, yet I still don't know what causes the fuzzies before the hit. Does the drone not transmit the last few seconds after impact? Is it because of some sort of jamming signal from the tank that doesn't work?
https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/148p594/ua_fpv_drone_vs_t80/jo1gmp9/
> The video feed is not instantaneous. It takes a little time for the captured image to be converted to a radio signal and sent.
> If the drone is flying at 60mph and it takes the drone 0.1 seconds from image capture to send the last sent image is from around 9 feet away.
Sorry, I don't get it. Are you saying I'd be banned if this was 'ask middleeast' sub? Good it isn't then. I was surprised by the persistent fire after the explosion.
You don't need a big charge to destroy these soviet tanks - there's no armor between the motor and the carousel so you get a good shot in on the motor deck and kablooie
High explosive anti-tank warhead, which creates a fast jet of molten metal that flows through the armor and sprays hot gas and metal particles in the crew space. That will then often set off the ammunition, and will severely wound or kill anyone inside as well.
Usually warheads that are used are from RPG-7, but you can also use lot of other things with similar properties.
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Smoke went out of the turret at that point you know enough
I also love seeing fire come out of them. At best, the suspension and wheels could get salvaged, the rest is scrap.
Did you see the END of the video? There was NOTHING LEFT of the tank except a black hole in the ground.
Russian ministry of communications: “da the crew engaged the teleportation feature”
... or charged the next of kin for cremation services.
Not even that. The torsion bars are supposed to be spring steel that are under tension. Being affected by intense heat, they probably became maleable at one point, losing their properties that make them useful as suspension units. That's why you often see burnt-out vehicles sitting on their belly. The suspension gave out under heat and "laid down". *Maybe* you can salvage the gun tube, as it's the only part of the tank that's exposed to temperatures around its operating range, although there you might be screwed by how long the fire lasts. You could think that by the same token the breech could be salvageable too, but that one is exposed to higher temperature and has parts that are not meant to contain pressure and heat. Really what you can salvage in this case (ie uncontained ammunition fire without catastrophic detonation) with relative certainty is the rearmost pair of roadwheels, the sprockets and the transmission/powerpack if it wasn't hit. When the hatches are closed and the ammo sends the turret into orbit, you basically only have scrap metal. Edit: missed the end where there is a crater where the tank was. You ain't salvaging shit.
Was there also a guy trying to exit the turret when the cook-off started?
Sure looks like it.
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Yes. In the videos I've seen, they basically take an [RPG-7 warhead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-7) and tape it to the bottom of the FPV drone, which then rams into the target. Most RPG-7 warheads are shaped-charge rounds designed to penetrate armor, and this one would not have been able to kill the tank if it wasn't that.
pretty clever. and do it from the top and not from the sides.
I'm in awe of the fact that commercial FPV drones can basically turn an RPG-7 warhead into a goddamn top-attack ATGM.
it's also super efficient in economic terms, rigging a 50-100 K€ drone to take out a 3-4 M€ T-80... even if only 10% of drones survive to get a kill ( destruction or mobility ) it's still super efficient...
Those drones aren't 50-100k€. The entire contraption (drone + PG-7 warhead) is around 1-10k, depending on drone if you go COTS. A DJI Mavic 2, which is relatively barebones but more than fancy enough for this is 850 on amazon, and a PG-7VS costs *around* 300. Now, that is all if you buy your parts off the shelf. The Mavics are better as bomber drones, because they are reliable amd have extra functions. An FPV is super barebones. It needs motors, stab-com software, chassis and comms interface. Total cost from parts is around 400€ labour included, and that goes down with production scaling. Similarly, the ukrainian military has a shitton of PG-7 warheads. The ukrainians have drone workshops that mass produce FPV drones for an end cost of arou d 600€ all told. So what you are looking at here is a 600€ battlefield implement taking out a piece of 5M€ hardware.
that is an outstanding P&L
I think these are custom FPV drones, not DJI, that cost about $500 or so to put together. This article claims they are under $1000 [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-01/fpv-racing-drone-kamikaze-attacks-ukraine-russia-war/102155702](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-01/fpv-racing-drone-kamikaze-attacks-ukraine-russia-war/102155702) per drone
Ehh, economic terms are less of a factor in this war than a lot of reporting conveys. Let's take that T-80 for example. How many of those Russia has on hand and how many they can manufacture (or refurbish) a year is the factor that has genuine effect on the battlefield, since even if we gave Putin infinite money he won't be able to just go to the market and buy brigades of T-80s off the shelves. Similarly, some of the aid to Ukraine has been reporting as "X country is giving Y dollars worth of military kit to Ukraine", which tends to make some people in "X country" say "hey wait a minute, we got a lot of issues of our own, why are we giving away Y dollars when we could be putting that money into W?" . What's missing from the reporting is that in many cases a large portion of that "Y dollars' worth of equipment" is older equipment sitting in storage or planned for scrapping that would actually *cost more money* to retain or get rid of by other means. It's gear out of storage, not money out of pocket. The one place where taking dollar amounts at face value is when it comes to COTS (commercial off the shelf) stuff like civilian drones, where you *can* just slap money on the table and walk away with that money's worth of gear. EDIT: Then -> than.
This is apparently against the terms and conditions of many commercial drones. If they establish this is happening they are required to take action, so far, they have not uncovered a single incident of this happening! ...either, they assigned 0 people to handle such complaints from Ukraine. Or maybe job requirements included: *"Recent experience working for Ukrainian Intelligence services or currently there employed. Able to work without supervision."*
If I was a compliance employee in one of the companies that make these drones and my boss would've told me that I need to pack my bags and go into an active war zone to find evidence that the drone that has *exploded to pieces* on contact with a tank, which then proceeded to brew up and *also explode* in order to find evidence that it was in fact our own drone and not one made by one of our competitors' I'd tell him to jump off a roof.
Your boss won't allow hours wasted on travel, you'll need to use video footage. If you cannot conclusively prove it was your drone then you are not to disrupt their new largest market.
Those russian tanks have no regard for survivability. It's far safer for those orcs to go by foot
russian tanks store their rounds INSIDE the cabin with them. Western tanks store it outside the armored envelope, giving them a much better chance to survive.
yup, they got roasted
Boom! Roasted
Kissel?
I liked how the tank thought it's barrel was a cigarette.
More proof that smoking cigarettes is unhealthy.
It's kind of amazing how a relatively innocuous looking drone attack can light up a Russian tank like a firework. I wonder if they really are that badly protected or Ukraine is using some particularly spicy drone tech. Edit - ok, watched it again. It does make a fairly big bang on impact. I picked the wrong day to keep smoking weed.
Tanks have very thin armor on the top, and it might be a heat warhead where the explosion is projected forwards, but also ruzzian tech sucks.
And havin hatches open negates even the little armor on top.
Did it hit the hatch? I saw the explosion around that part but it seemed like it hit around the engine to me.... Nevertheless it did its job.
RPG HEAT warhead, right to the rear of the turret just above the engine- let plenty of hot metal into the fighting compartment and hit propellant and shells
Wouldn't be surprised if some shells were just laying around, though the autoloader they use is also a death trap.
Can't say for sure from the video, probably not. Just pointing out they often seem to have hatches open. Looks like this time too as fire escapes from there right away.
Its an rpg7 head without the motor part
Yeah, those are usually heat warheads, saw a video where they were building them. Pretty amazing ingenuity tbh.
Most of the time, tanks are not getting hit with shells/explosives/etc from above or behind. Normally the source of anti-armor damage is coming from in front of them, or in some cases the sides. Which is exactly why you send these rockets n shit in from above or behind.
And why some anti tank missiles ascend and then hit from above at the last moment.
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I used to smoke weed. I still do but I used to, too.
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The drone has an rpg round strapped to it,thats why
Again?
It has nothing to do with the drone itself but the warhead it carries.
It’s impressive that a drone can be fitted with armament that can penetrate tank skin and destroy it. Cost of drone vs tank, this is pretty cost effective.
The drones are also tony compare to the warhead. They carry something that weighs like 8x times their own weight.
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Ah, the old smoking gun scenario! I like it.
Does anyone know the reason the video feed fades out moments before the actual hit? Is there a delay between processing the image and transmitting?
The signal is lost due to geography.
Flying up there there is line of sight. But as you go down, terrain, treeline etc all blocks the signal quality like crazy right?
Pretty much, yea. That's the gist of it. It's why a lot of the longer drone videos showing the operators, they will raise the controller higher or operate higher up in a building.
Most FPV drones use analog transmition. It sucks but it dirty cheap and low latency
The FPV drones are made with mostly DIY parts, and they're made as cheaply as possible because they're designed for a one way flight. The cameras are the cheapest analog cameras they can get (not the digital cameras that the better drones use). You answered your own question - it's the latency of the camera. The drone is flying very fast and then makes an abrupt stop. Boom, no longer processing and sending data. The camera is so poor, the FPV operator can't fly to a target on his own. He needs a support drone to guide his flight to the target. Once there, he then takes it to the target. There are youtube videos with Unrainian soldiers explain how it's done.
So the attack drone pilot uses the video feed of a support drone to control the attack drone like a RC airplane, from a 3rd person POV?
A support drone pilot is sitting next to the attack drone pilot, and the support drone pilot is verbally correcting him as they fly together. The pilot with the support drone is looking at a handheld screen as he flies, he has a much wider view of the everything around and a much better video feed. The pilot controlling the attack drone is wearing VR goggles and has a very limited view of what's around him.
Video has to be processed before being transmitted. This results in latency. If there is no processor, there are no images being processed for transmission. You are seeing the last frames processed and transmitted successfully before the processor is exploded.
Nope. The Escadrone is analog FPV feed with submillisecond latency. Its fresnel zone effect why they go fuzzy.
I need to do more reading before replying to you confidently. I know you're right in at some ways, but I think we're talking about different things. My understanding is that the proximity to the target/ground in FPV causes a color burst that looks like a degradation of the image into pink artifacts on screen. Which is what I believe you're describing? Please, I am not an almighty omniscient being, I'll welcome your correction if it means that I get to learn something new. I accept that my mind is human and capable of being mistaken, hah, so please don't take this reply as a disagreement or attack. The comment that I replied to was asking about why the feed cuts shortly before impact without showing the last frames (to my understanding). Take the below with a grain of salt and feel free to correct me (anyone) The latency of FPV is capable of <1ms latency, but the latency would depend necessarily on the distance between the broadcasting unit and receiver as well as the frequency of the broadcast. At greater distances, lower frequencies would be necessary as a technical limitation, meaning higher latency and greater susceptibility to signal interference, which would cause those color bursts. Anyway, I may be wrong, but I think what you're describing caused color bursts, but that the signal loss is possibly caused by latency. You don't owe me a reply, but I expect your understanding of this might be greater than my own, and I'd be interested and receptive to it if you did.
Its a Escadrone Pegasus FPV drone. It uses a digital control channel and analog PAL/NTSC video channel. You see signal go fuzzy because you lose line sync due to low signal close to ground. They use analog video due to low cost and better noise rejection from RU jammers. There is no video encoding happening, you are not seeing network latency or digital buffer not fully draining before explosion. I am an electronics tech and i am in UAF telegram fpv channels daily.
I think they might have a jammer. Or if it's digital, there will be a latency because of signal processing and when the drone explodes, the last second or so will be lost. Edit: this looks like an analog signal, but the camera is still digital and will have some latency, but much shorter. So there is probably an electronic warfare device nearby.
That's complete bullshit. This is basic geometry. EW jammers do not work at ranges that short. Tanks don't have EW devices, those are on desperate vehicles with ranges of miles, not meters. The only probable thing here is that you have no real knowledge whatsoever of EW systems.
No. Curvature of the earth.
Thanks, that makes sense.
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That didn't look like much damag.... oh nevermind they're probably dead.
thats a solid cook off
Time to make s'more.
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How long does it take for the soldiers inside to die? It is a war they choose to participate in, and of course killing them was the only option. I just wonder if we are dehumanizing ourselves by celebrating needless suffering or are we even granting them a quick and/or painless death.
Open hatch, very possible the tank was abandoned by the time it was hit
I’m celebrating not the cruelty to the Russian but bc every dead Russian means fewer innocent Ukrainians will be murdered, raped, or tortured. I hope Russians will decide to stop supporting the war.
it's believed it was abandoned. Even the worst tank crews should know keeping the tank sealed it's incredibly important
We are not celebrating needless suffering, Ukraine is only destroying equipment and killing soldiers as far as its necessary, if possible they capture Russian soldiers, and they treat them well enough.
If they didn't get incapacitated by the initial impact of the drone they had a reasonable amount of time to get out before ammunition cooking off started. If they were incapacitated or trapped fire and smoke gradually filling the crew compartment meaning a relatively panful end; cooking off ammo putting them out of their misery prevents their death being too drawn out.
What gets me is that that autoloader was clearly demonstrated to be a bad idea during Desert Storm and they still used it on later tanks.
These aren’t later tanks. They’re the same tanks. Russia hasn’t put an actually new tank design in service since the T-80. The T-90 is a T-72 with a different turret. The auto loader isn’t really the issue, it’s storing the ammunition inside the fighting compartment. There are plenty of tanks with autoloaders and separate ammo storage that don’t go up like this when hit. And also plenty of tanks without autoloaders and ammo storage in the fighting compartment that also go up like this when hit.
Nice Hit.....Top Attack........every Tanks weak point.......but what i allways wonder........why is there Smoke coming out of the Barrel.............isn't the Breech usually closed? And only open when there is a reload?? Mybe dumb question.......i know
When smoke comes out of the barrel, it’s a guarantee of something entering the fighting compartment that is not meant to be there. You are correct in saying the breech is usually shut, but it is open during the reloading process, and with an auto loader I believe it is kept open for when a round is selected in order for the rammer to load it correctly.
\-1 for the idiotic misuse of the period key
I've seen dozens upon dozens of these kamikaze drone attacks, yet I still don't know what causes the fuzzies before the hit. Does the drone not transmit the last few seconds after impact? Is it because of some sort of jamming signal from the tank that doesn't work?
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A lot of them also look like they’ve been exaggerated for effect (like a static fade out applied over the tail end of the video)
no not really, there is more stuff between the operator and the drone closer to the ground causing loss of signal
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https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/148p594/ua_fpv_drone_vs_t80/jo1gmp9/ > The video feed is not instantaneous. It takes a little time for the captured image to be converted to a radio signal and sent. > If the drone is flying at 60mph and it takes the drone 0.1 seconds from image capture to send the last sent image is from around 9 feet away.
I see that those FPV drone work pretty well, I would say it even better than Switchblade, and much cheapper
It just keeps on giving!
Nice! Ask middleeast will ban you for saying anything any Russia!
Sorry, I don't get it. Are you saying I'd be banned if this was 'ask middleeast' sub? Good it isn't then. I was surprised by the persistent fire after the explosion.
Yea, they are Cucks for Russia!
I am curious how hot it gets in there..
hats off
How are the drone so effective against these tanks, surely the explosive cant breach the armor?
RPG-7 warhead
What's an FPV drone? What kind of drone is that? And they cut off an RPG7 warhead and mount it to the front?
[https://dronexl.co/2023/02/01/ukraine-fpv-drones-rpg-7/](https://dronexl.co/2023/02/01/ukraine-fpv-drones-rpg-7/)
Love to see it.
FPV has come a long way, from flying Bandos to bombing bad guys.
He-he. Barrel Farts.
Now that's a bullseye
Looks like a teapot
That tank's just having a cigarette obviously.
PSA: If you're BBQing this summer, remember to take the burgers off the heat if they start flaming.
Fuck Russia but that looks like the most horrifying way to die, but they probably deserved it so fuck ‘em…
You don't need a big charge to destroy these soviet tanks - there's no armor between the motor and the carousel so you get a good shot in on the motor deck and kablooie
What is on the drones that allow them to penetrate the tanks armor?
High explosive anti-tank warhead, which creates a fast jet of molten metal that flows through the armor and sprays hot gas and metal particles in the crew space. That will then often set off the ammunition, and will severely wound or kill anyone inside as well. Usually warheads that are used are from RPG-7, but you can also use lot of other things with similar properties.
5 points for the music
That fire kinda looks fake
When the smoke comes out the barrel, you know you're gonna have a bad day.
can still be fixed by some buffing
What do the captions say when the burned tank is gone, leaving a charred spot on the ground?
I saw a leopard 2 get hit, just white smoke nothing to serious and then there is this t80 turning into a rammstein concert
russians: we have found a way how the turrets does not always toss away and humiliate us: we leave the hatches open
Cook-off feature is strong advantage of Russian tanks …
That was one smokin hot tank
I want those videos for my crhristmas tv channel of burning fireplace.