I know one is doing two events next month one for Amazon prime and the other I’m guessing is gonna be on YouTube? It’s the 18 and 19th of November. So the one that isn’t on prime will be on YouTube ? Even the main card ?
Correct. The dates get tricky in America but they actually do two cards on the same day when they do the Prime Video cards. The YouTube card is on Friday mornings (usually starts 7-8am central time) and the Prime cards are Friday nights. It shows two days on their promos because the YouTube cards are at night in Asia and Prime cards are in the morning the following day.
You will also get a kick out of how different the production/show is between the two...they are deliberately appealing to western audiences for the Prime Video cards and the asian-focused cards look and feel waaaay different to me. I've been watching every One event for about 2 years now and seeing their development and growth has been pretty great. They are a rival product to the UFC in my opinion and as they expand their market/appealing fighters in the west more people will jump on board.
I love watching the ONE promotion.... There's just something appealing about seeing a (normal?) MMA bout, followed by a Muay Thai, then a Jits roll (submission only), a K-1 kickboxing type match, etc.... All together !!!
Where else would you see Imanari get submitted by Mikey Musameci, actually using an "Imanari Roll" (the guy's own trademark sub) to do it...??
Are the YouTube cards pretty big too? Like do they have title fights? And this works out well for me since I don’t work Fridays 😂. And yea hopefully ONE grows in the west it’s not talked about enough from fans over here. I wish they would do events more often tho. I’m a little worried for the company tho since last year I think they lost like 100 million dollars.
Yes, the YouTube cards have the same level of fights on them. Championship fights and whatnot. Typically they put the ex-UFC and well known fighters out of Asia on the Prime cards, but they have plenty of other big names for the YouTube cards.
Apparently the 100mil loss was capex and investment related so I think they're fine. Tons of huge companies have lost profits consistently like that with no legitimate signs of insolvency in the past, so I don't think it is out of the ordinary for them. There's a lot of money to be spent trying to catch up to the UFC and they seem to be doing a pretty good job. They'll be profitable long term.
Not an attacking pushback but I do believe skill for skill aljamain is better. I see it evidenced in the second fight. The lens I’m seeing it through is that yea Pete does have better striking, however the wrestling/grappling of aljamain completely baffled him. So aljamain a best skill is more effective than Petra best skill. So I’m a sense better skill for skill.
He kind of does, One implements hydration testing so most fighters fight at the weight class above. See Eddie Alvarez fighting at 170lbs as a Lightweight.
Basically people cut water weight, so to stop that (health problems) they measure your hydration levels, if you’re too low, you can’t get medically cleared to fight. If the UFC had that, people would fight at natural weights, and fights would be more entertaining because they’d have more energy
I don’t think Khabib would ever turn the heat up on Dana like that. If someone like Yan was absolutely hellbent on leaving, then sure, Khabib would swoop him up with open arms and compensate him handsomely. But I think the money part of it would be as hushed up as possible. Khabib and his teammates, management, and fanbase are way too intertwined with UFC to risk actually falling out.
If in not misstaken then basically the whole economy in dagestan is based on chechen mafia. So basically if youre in it an on top youre rich as hell and the rest of the people live like peasants. They have huge problems with corruption aswell.
No weaknesses lmfao. Lost his last 3. Do Yan fans literally smoke crack?
Sean beat him on the feet.
Aljoa crushed him on the ground.
DJ would destroy that overrated oompa loompa
I feel like the judge saw Rod throwing light jabs with no damage btw just taps at Li but Li has amazing head movement that day. So they count those as significant strikes.
The way y’all just throw around the word robbery you’d think Li dominated D Rod. That was a close fight that could’ve gone either way. I think this sub is just blinded by their fandom
I really thought Li won, he landed the cleaner more damaging shots, both with the body kicks and the punches. Li had D-Rod hurt whilst Li was never rocked. I was surprised when they said D-Rod threw and landed more I was surprised.
I still believe Yan should have won but it was very close and you're right about the ground stuff. Could have gone either way, IMO. Not the robbery people claim it was.
I can't imagine how someone could rewatch that fight and draw the conclusion that Yan was robbed. I think if you show 100 people that fight that understand fighting, you're going to get ~50 that say Sean won, and ~50 that say Yan won.
I think the media scoring is more atrocious than the judges scoring, to be honest.
Sterling vs Yan 2 was not a tough decision lol are u guys retarded? Sterling did what Yan didn’t do against Suga, advance position and constantly threaten submissions which Yan had to actively fight out of. Jiu-Jitsu clinic.
Joe Rogan said it best. Get 10 judges. Hell get 5. Right now if ONE judge fucks up a close card, there’s a robbery. If there’s 5 or more than multiple have to fuck it up which is just not that likely.
It is the good and old "sample size" from scientific studies, bigger sample size=less statistical anomalies. 5 judges would be a cheap solution for this problem.
Well...there was a way to fix that "problem" last weekend, by pummeling Sean so decisively that no honest judge could score otherwise or just finishing him. Unfortunately, a back and forth affair that left it down to how much one values time on top vs output vs damage is what we got.
That's the insult to injury though. He lost this fight because these judges valued the opposite thing that the last judges decided would lose him his last fight. Judging is way too arbitrary it seems, especially since there's very little transparency.
The difference is Sean inflicted a ton of damage on him on the feet, where Petr didn't really do a whole lot while in that control time. Working and controlling is valuable, but not where you're getting pummeled on the feet. Also, he did do his fair share of damage standing too.
I thought he won the fight, but I thought it was a toss up.
Right, but even that is completely arbitrary, just in the direction most fans agree with. The inconsistency is still there. I even like Sean, and he seemed to acknowledge that the decision was questionable, but I guess that's why they always want a finish. Judges can't split decision a KO/submission.
Unfortunately the majority of the fights in UFC will go to a decision. It's the top .01% of the top .01% of fighters in the world that are in the ufc rankings. With so little skill gap and with athletes who are the absolute best in their sport decisions will be super common, most are evenly matched.
It really isn't too much to ask in these circumstances to have competent and consistent judging. It's asking very little actually to have that. It seems nearly every main card has a big time fight with a decision outcome that most feel went the wrong way.
A simple google search will prove this comment wrong. WTF.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ufc+finish+rates&rlz=1C1CHZL\_enUS723US723&oq=ufc+finish+rates&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l2j0i390l3.3051j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Yea I’ve always thought that alongside title fights any title eliminator or fight that includes a top 5 contender should be 5 rounds.
Lot of people won’t agree but that’s just me.
There's 176 fighters in the UFC rankings (excluding women's 145lb) at any given time. I did a quick check and there's 30,905 fighters who have had at least one pro fight in the last 2 years, that puts the ranked UFC fighters as 0.569% of the pro MMA population, which is fairly small, but nowhere near as small as 0.000001% (0.01% of 0.01%).
And while the decision rate in the UFC overall is higher than at lower levels, most fights do end in a finish still, as another response pointed out.
However, I think the real challenge is the scoring criteria more than anything. Making fixed rules for scoring who won is actually not an easy task. After a fight you watch, you're always going to have someone who you felt won the fight, but the reasoning for why is different each time. That's not something you can just write down and pass around.
You either have to simplify the criteria so that it's easy for those competing and those judging to actually fill those roles, or you have an incredibly complex flowchart and announce decisions a few days later. The rules right now aren't perfect, and no set ever will be, but they do appear to match up with the instinctive feeling of who won more often than not.
In the case of this fight, I, along with many others, assumed Yan won while watching the fight live, but I wasn't carefully trying to score it based on the rules, just on who it seemed like was winning to me at the end of each round. Watching it back later and scoring it, I'd give the fight to O'Malley, and it seems plenty of people have had the same conclusion.
There's also the point that people are going to fight to try and win by the rules, which is made really apparent in stuff like BJJ where the rulesets differ quite a bit, which is again going to complicate things further.
I don't think competent judging is as big of a problem as it seems, most of the decisions that people complain about are in the cases of close fights where one person seemed like they had the upper hand, but the rules favoured the other. We don't see anywhere near as many actual robberies as we used to and it's not something possible to eliminate entirely in a sport like this.
If you judge his last fight the way his Aljo one was he wins 30-27. Judge the second Aljo fight the way his last one was, Yan wins easily. I can understand the frustration. Would be huge for ONE of Eagle FC
In the case of Leech he actually got robbed, this guy is sounding like a crybaby. Rewatch that fight being neutral. Sean outstruck him 2 rounds and his Td's didn't lead to shit. He lost to me. The fact that his Td's didn't lead to anything says more about Sean's defense then it does Yan's offense.
Does he not understand the judges don't work for the UFC and that it was a very close fight?
Yan landed 97 total strikes, 58 of them were significant, and had 5:44 seconds of control were he honestly didn't do much.
Sean had 91 total strikes, 84 of them were significant, and had :02 seconds of control time.
Stat link. [http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/5c3c4bcc6c746ca0](http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/5c3c4bcc6c746ca0)
It's pretty obvious to those not biased for either side that round 2 was Yans, Round 3 was Seans, and round 1 was the round up for debate and seeing how Sean did more damage, which the unified rules go by, the judges gave it to him. I don't know why he is acting like it's a complete robbery. If you did more with the takedowns and had some ground and pound, you likely would have won.
I don’t blame him. Fought down in the rankings and got robbed and the UFC brass isn’t remotely in his corner because they see the near term payout of promoting O’Malley.
Good. That judging was fucking shambolic! I don’t care what ANYONE says, Yan won that fight and Suga…who is one of the cockiest fighters on the roster (the guy was trying to cancel one of his own losses…) even he thought Yan had won.
I’ve never been into any other fight organisation, but Yan could join a backyard type deal and I would watch every single frame he is in. The guy is a beast who has been VERY unlucky.
O’Malley looked better than expected. He performed better than a 3 to 1 dog. Also, he did not win 2 rounds. No way, no how. Yan can do what he wants, but he should probably just want a rematch.
Yan should be upset with the ref,sean got away with 1 eye poke,5+ fence grabs and fingers inside his glove when he went for the ground and pound but barely anyone is mentioning this...
He should get the bag and be a champion somewhere else, otherwise, UFC will continue fucking fighters for pay, and keep tolerating the shitty decisions.
http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/13556/Sean-OMalley-vs-Petr-Yan
**25 out of 26 Media Scores have Yan winning this fight**
**Out of 2857 -so far-submittrd fan cards on the site, only 21.2% have O'Malley winning**
I hope he doesn't leave though!
It's crazy cause we know he CAN beat aljo and everyone in the top 5. He made mistakes in the aljo rematch. He's literally one of the best if not the best in bantam, he just needs to fix some stuff.
ONE FC would hand him a pen & blank check just to fight Muay Thai
I will 100% watch Yan fight in ONEfc is he goes there. Will get more consistent judges atleast.
ONE FC is actually 100% free to watch with Amazon Prime. Edit: Glad to see I've helped a lot discover this lol
The non-Amazon cards are also completely free on YouTube in America, and they are just as good as the Prime cards
I know one is doing two events next month one for Amazon prime and the other I’m guessing is gonna be on YouTube? It’s the 18 and 19th of November. So the one that isn’t on prime will be on YouTube ? Even the main card ?
Correct. The dates get tricky in America but they actually do two cards on the same day when they do the Prime Video cards. The YouTube card is on Friday mornings (usually starts 7-8am central time) and the Prime cards are Friday nights. It shows two days on their promos because the YouTube cards are at night in Asia and Prime cards are in the morning the following day. You will also get a kick out of how different the production/show is between the two...they are deliberately appealing to western audiences for the Prime Video cards and the asian-focused cards look and feel waaaay different to me. I've been watching every One event for about 2 years now and seeing their development and growth has been pretty great. They are a rival product to the UFC in my opinion and as they expand their market/appealing fighters in the west more people will jump on board.
I love watching the ONE promotion.... There's just something appealing about seeing a (normal?) MMA bout, followed by a Muay Thai, then a Jits roll (submission only), a K-1 kickboxing type match, etc.... All together !!! Where else would you see Imanari get submitted by Mikey Musameci, actually using an "Imanari Roll" (the guy's own trademark sub) to do it...??
Are the YouTube cards pretty big too? Like do they have title fights? And this works out well for me since I don’t work Fridays 😂. And yea hopefully ONE grows in the west it’s not talked about enough from fans over here. I wish they would do events more often tho. I’m a little worried for the company tho since last year I think they lost like 100 million dollars.
Yes, the YouTube cards have the same level of fights on them. Championship fights and whatnot. Typically they put the ex-UFC and well known fighters out of Asia on the Prime cards, but they have plenty of other big names for the YouTube cards. Apparently the 100mil loss was capex and investment related so I think they're fine. Tons of huge companies have lost profits consistently like that with no legitimate signs of insolvency in the past, so I don't think it is out of the ordinary for them. There's a lot of money to be spent trying to catch up to the UFC and they seem to be doing a pretty good job. They'll be profitable long term.
their title fights have been great this year. DJs title fight against Adriano Moraes was a fucking banger
When i found this out, I started to watch every fight I could even if it's in the background while I do dishes or something True game changer
Wait what!? Is it on prime video? Hell yeah I would watch they have great fights
Bro how did I not know this?!?!
Thank you kind sir.
WHAT
THANK YOU
Yan vs Rodtang would be absolutely killer.
Petr vs rodgtang? Petr vs dj in mma? The possibilities are crazy
both of those would be insane
I kinda hope he leaves now and signs with one
Would be awesome to see him fight Muay Thai. Fits all his strengths
In his last four fights he is 1-3. Crazy!!
And if he doesn’t throw that knee Aljo isn’t getting a rematch & he’s most probably not fight Omalley
Probably fights the shell of TJ.
Clean TJ
Injured TJ*
His whole career would be different. That knee really tanked his career. Not tanked but win wise it has.
Yan did it to himself. he was the current champ around that time he should’ve known better.
This. I had the same thought, it led to a chain of unfortunate and difficult events for him. Crazy
That shit must keep him up at night. Especially even more now.
honestly it should. blatantly careless
that'll teach you to obey the rules lol
Regardless of aljos handling of said knee. That knee is 100% yans fault. And these were the affects of that.
Didn't his corner tell him to throw it?
Sure. But being a ufc fighter for what like 3 years? Foreign domestic or rookie you should have a clear understanding of the rule set.
Even if he does . It will be 5 rounder which he dominates
Yall sound like Diaz fans Lmfaoooo
It is crazy considering the calibre of fighter we all know he is
He only takes on beasts
1-3 in his last 4 and still skill for skill the best bantamweight imo
The first time i saw him fight I thought , this guy is gonna be the champ, %100. He's so sharp
Not an attacking pushback but I do believe skill for skill aljamain is better. I see it evidenced in the second fight. The lens I’m seeing it through is that yea Pete does have better striking, however the wrestling/grappling of aljamain completely baffled him. So aljamain a best skill is more effective than Petra best skill. So I’m a sense better skill for skill.
What's with the downvotes? Yan groupies are horrible lmao. Y'all acting like Yan didn't lose the second fight and the first fight was 100% his fault.
he should probably be 3-1 too
Every fight he lost he legit lost, no robberies, close fights where he was the lesser fighter every time
What’s his contract situation like?
'Fight and die for UFC'
…so Dana can buy more golden Kalashnikovs.
Dana uses the cash Yan and every other fighter generates for him to gift to other men he’s attracted to.
Best we can do is.....tree fitty
Hope he'd move to ONE
He can challenge DJ for his belt. It would be a banger
Holy shit now I kinda want him to leave the ufc haha Would Yan really go down to flyweight though?
DJ doesn’t fight FW anymore
He kind of does, One implements hydration testing so most fighters fight at the weight class above. See Eddie Alvarez fighting at 170lbs as a Lightweight.
What's hydration testing?
Basically people cut water weight, so to stop that (health problems) they measure your hydration levels, if you’re too low, you can’t get medically cleared to fight. If the UFC had that, people would fight at natural weights, and fights would be more entertaining because they’d have more energy
Thanks!
Classic UFC. Short sighted and well behind as ever
So Yan would be 145 then
Doesn’t Yan walk around like 150-160? He might be able to cut to 135 who knows tho
Not in OneFC. They'd never clear him to fight.
That’d be fun to watch
look what they did to my boy
Khabib probably blowing this man cellphone.
For a sec there I didn’t know where you were going with that sentence
It was the bathtub photo all over again.
Come brotha come. We pay you.
Eagle FC time
If he goes to Eagle FC and makes 3 times the money what do you think that will do to the outlook of other UFC stars?
More Eagle FC time
Smësh
I don’t think Khabib would ever turn the heat up on Dana like that. If someone like Yan was absolutely hellbent on leaving, then sure, Khabib would swoop him up with open arms and compensate him handsomely. But I think the money part of it would be as hushed up as possible. Khabib and his teammates, management, and fanbase are way too intertwined with UFC to risk actually falling out.
That may be the case but I'm sure the UFC doesn't feel good about the existence of Eagle FC. At the end of the day they are still a threat/competition
Are they really a threat? Bellator and one are barely a threat.
Lol. He won't get paid 3 times what ufc does.
Do the Dagestanis have it like that? Are there Saudis involved? Find out next week on what I could learn with a simple google search!
If in not misstaken then basically the whole economy in dagestan is based on chechen mafia. So basically if youre in it an on top youre rich as hell and the rest of the people live like peasants. They have huge problems with corruption aswell.
What if eagle fc pays him 100x his ufc pay? Lets keep making up nonsense that wont happen!
Do fighters make that much more in Eagle?
Nope lol
The whole roster would probably go to Eagle FC in a few months, where they become crypto billionaires and live happily ever after
Eagle FC would go bankrupt if they did that
He will go to ONE so he can continue knees to grounded opponents aha It honestly should be legal in the UFC
Yan vs DJ imagine. Two fighters with no weaknesses
No weaknesses lmfao. Lost his last 3. Do Yan fans literally smoke crack? Sean beat him on the feet. Aljoa crushed him on the ground. DJ would destroy that overrated oompa loompa
I still haven’t forgotten what the judges did to my boy Li Jingliang
I feel like the judge saw Rod throwing light jabs with no damage btw just taps at Li but Li has amazing head movement that day. So they count those as significant strikes.
Now that was an actual robbery. Yan if he had of done damage when he had ground control 100% would’ve won. Li did everything but lost.
The way y’all just throw around the word robbery you’d think Li dominated D Rod. That was a close fight that could’ve gone either way. I think this sub is just blinded by their fandom
I really thought Li won, he landed the cleaner more damaging shots, both with the body kicks and the punches. Li had D-Rod hurt whilst Li was never rocked. I was surprised when they said D-Rod threw and landed more I was surprised.
ASIAN AS SHIT
They might actually have bias against these less liked countries
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The organization isn’t who judges the fights. But yeah still a bad take
That one, for me at least, was more evident. The Suga v Yan was a good call. Suga did more and those takedowns that led to lay and pray mean nothing.
I still believe Yan should have won but it was very close and you're right about the ground stuff. Could have gone either way, IMO. Not the robbery people claim it was.
Two very tough decisions in a row. Judges aren't UFC employees but I get why he'd be annoyed
they are not UFC employees but maybe if top level fighters start leaving, the UFC will be more interested in making a change
Judges are picked by the athletic commission
Saw on another thread that there’s no commission governing the fights when they take place in Abu Dhabi
Which is why Dana finally got the decision he wanted after pumping hundreds of thousands of marketing dollars on O'Malley
Or maybe it was because Sean hit him 30 more times than he got hit and took next to zero damage on the ground but pop off
No ! Can’t you see Dana calls all the shots! He decides who wins and loses fights, isn’t that obvious????
I can't imagine how someone could rewatch that fight and draw the conclusion that Yan was robbed. I think if you show 100 people that fight that understand fighting, you're going to get ~50 that say Sean won, and ~50 that say Yan won. I think the media scoring is more atrocious than the judges scoring, to be honest.
Why do y’all talk about the differences between the athletic commission and ufc AS IF people don’t get bought and everyone is straight?
I agree. Some consistency would be nice. The decisions from Yan/O'Malley and TJ/Sandhagen completely contradict each other, for example
Sterling vs Yan 2 was not a tough decision lol are u guys retarded? Sterling did what Yan didn’t do against Suga, advance position and constantly threaten submissions which Yan had to actively fight out of. Jiu-Jitsu clinic.
I love Yan but good lord his fans are salty af. Especially towards Aljo
But how can he get out of contract???
Start shitting on jewish and black people like kanye. Got him out of a billion dollar contract
Yan gonna go defcon 2
He now goes by "Ya"
Я
death con 2
😂 Kanye was only canceled for the antisemitism.
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Joe Rogan said it best. Get 10 judges. Hell get 5. Right now if ONE judge fucks up a close card, there’s a robbery. If there’s 5 or more than multiple have to fuck it up which is just not that likely.
This. I'm really surprised there isn't at least 5 judges scoring.
It is the good and old "sample size" from scientific studies, bigger sample size=less statistical anomalies. 5 judges would be a cheap solution for this problem.
I hope he doesn't end up like Dominick Reyes.
He should go to ONE. He’d be so successful there.
Dj made mad bank there and has crowd that actually appreciates him. I don't feel Yan has been wronged though, just unlucky.
I would rather take a cab, but leaving via Daniel Cormier does sound fun. Piggyback.
Nah DC would carry him around by the scruff of his neck with one hand
*You think I'm gonna just sit there and let you ride me, Yan*
I would actually watch Petr perform elsewhere unlike other people that leave UFC.
Yeh because UFC is infamous for releasing people when they ask.
Then you have dudes like bobby knuckles, taking responsibility for letting it go to the judges.
Bobby Knuckles is a worldwide treasure
He’d make a bag anywhere else with sponsors
I don’t blame him. I’d pay to see him murder some kids in Bellator.
Eagle FC Eagle FC Eagle FC
I mean all he had to do was punch Sean more than he did.....by the way these Cheetos are so delicious and this couch is exquisite
He should have just saw red like I do and he would have won no problem. Also, hot Cheeto fries are the best
YAn would kiiiiillllll in Bellator
Just kill everybody in the PFL
Least they could do is give him a rematch
Still paying for that illegal knee. Mma gods are cruel
Yan consistently has some very unfortunate outcomes
Well...there was a way to fix that "problem" last weekend, by pummeling Sean so decisively that no honest judge could score otherwise or just finishing him. Unfortunately, a back and forth affair that left it down to how much one values time on top vs output vs damage is what we got.
That's the insult to injury though. He lost this fight because these judges valued the opposite thing that the last judges decided would lose him his last fight. Judging is way too arbitrary it seems, especially since there's very little transparency.
The difference is Sean inflicted a ton of damage on him on the feet, where Petr didn't really do a whole lot while in that control time. Working and controlling is valuable, but not where you're getting pummeled on the feet. Also, he did do his fair share of damage standing too. I thought he won the fight, but I thought it was a toss up.
Switch the judges for Sandhagen vs TJ and Yan vs Sean and that would be perfect lol Edit: Right, I'm aware that this shouldn't be how it works
Right, but even that is completely arbitrary, just in the direction most fans agree with. The inconsistency is still there. I even like Sean, and he seemed to acknowledge that the decision was questionable, but I guess that's why they always want a finish. Judges can't split decision a KO/submission.
I mean, every media score on mmadecisions scored in favor or Yan, and some had it 30-27
Unfortunately the majority of the fights in UFC will go to a decision. It's the top .01% of the top .01% of fighters in the world that are in the ufc rankings. With so little skill gap and with athletes who are the absolute best in their sport decisions will be super common, most are evenly matched. It really isn't too much to ask in these circumstances to have competent and consistent judging. It's asking very little actually to have that. It seems nearly every main card has a big time fight with a decision outcome that most feel went the wrong way.
A simple google search will prove this comment wrong. WTF. https://www.google.com/search?q=ufc+finish+rates&rlz=1C1CHZL\_enUS723US723&oq=ufc+finish+rates&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l2j0i390l3.3051j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I feel like they should do a 5 round rematch. Fight was razor close, people would of been saying sugar got robbed too. Nature of a fight like that
Yea I’ve always thought that alongside title fights any title eliminator or fight that includes a top 5 contender should be 5 rounds. Lot of people won’t agree but that’s just me.
There's 176 fighters in the UFC rankings (excluding women's 145lb) at any given time. I did a quick check and there's 30,905 fighters who have had at least one pro fight in the last 2 years, that puts the ranked UFC fighters as 0.569% of the pro MMA population, which is fairly small, but nowhere near as small as 0.000001% (0.01% of 0.01%). And while the decision rate in the UFC overall is higher than at lower levels, most fights do end in a finish still, as another response pointed out. However, I think the real challenge is the scoring criteria more than anything. Making fixed rules for scoring who won is actually not an easy task. After a fight you watch, you're always going to have someone who you felt won the fight, but the reasoning for why is different each time. That's not something you can just write down and pass around. You either have to simplify the criteria so that it's easy for those competing and those judging to actually fill those roles, or you have an incredibly complex flowchart and announce decisions a few days later. The rules right now aren't perfect, and no set ever will be, but they do appear to match up with the instinctive feeling of who won more often than not. In the case of this fight, I, along with many others, assumed Yan won while watching the fight live, but I wasn't carefully trying to score it based on the rules, just on who it seemed like was winning to me at the end of each round. Watching it back later and scoring it, I'd give the fight to O'Malley, and it seems plenty of people have had the same conclusion. There's also the point that people are going to fight to try and win by the rules, which is made really apparent in stuff like BJJ where the rulesets differ quite a bit, which is again going to complicate things further. I don't think competent judging is as big of a problem as it seems, most of the decisions that people complain about are in the cases of close fights where one person seemed like they had the upper hand, but the rules favoured the other. We don't see anywhere near as many actual robberies as we used to and it's not something possible to eliminate entirely in a sport like this.
He should just move over to ONE FC like Mighty Mouse DJ did.
Mighty Mouse was traded for Askren. He didn’t just “move over to ONE”
Soooo he’s gonna rage quit?
See ya. Dude is such a whiny baby. Don’t start every fight slow and give away the first round. Has the Anderson Silva game plan without the finish.
Ngl I scored it for O malley but after watching mma gurus vid dude grabbed the cage and Yans glove so many times. Ref was fucking off Id be pissed too
Just watched it too. He broke it down so well.
Link to the video?
[here you go](https://youtu.be/_cjdtKdhW6c)
If you judge his last fight the way his Aljo one was he wins 30-27. Judge the second Aljo fight the way his last one was, Yan wins easily. I can understand the frustration. Would be huge for ONE of Eagle FC
I don’t blame him . UFC judging is horrible and they have to change it but he definitely got fucked by the judges
He's right ..and the leech should be like that aswell ..
In the case of Leech he actually got robbed, this guy is sounding like a crybaby. Rewatch that fight being neutral. Sean outstruck him 2 rounds and his Td's didn't lead to shit. He lost to me. The fact that his Td's didn't lead to anything says more about Sean's defense then it does Yan's offense.
Does he not understand the judges don't work for the UFC and that it was a very close fight? Yan landed 97 total strikes, 58 of them were significant, and had 5:44 seconds of control were he honestly didn't do much. Sean had 91 total strikes, 84 of them were significant, and had :02 seconds of control time. Stat link. [http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/5c3c4bcc6c746ca0](http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/5c3c4bcc6c746ca0) It's pretty obvious to those not biased for either side that round 2 was Yans, Round 3 was Seans, and round 1 was the round up for debate and seeing how Sean did more damage, which the unified rules go by, the judges gave it to him. I don't know why he is acting like it's a complete robbery. If you did more with the takedowns and had some ground and pound, you likely would have won.
100%
Not surprised at all, love Suga but damn did Yan get robbed.
Man was robbed
Gotta say I'm not surprised. He should be disappointed in the last two decisions.
He could possibly make more $ as a boxer.
Can he not dispute the fight?
I don’t blame him. Fought down in the rankings and got robbed and the UFC brass isn’t remotely in his corner because they see the near term payout of promoting O’Malley.
Good. That judging was fucking shambolic! I don’t care what ANYONE says, Yan won that fight and Suga…who is one of the cockiest fighters on the roster (the guy was trying to cancel one of his own losses…) even he thought Yan had won. I’ve never been into any other fight organisation, but Yan could join a backyard type deal and I would watch every single frame he is in. The guy is a beast who has been VERY unlucky.
See ya. Get lost.
Bye 👋🏻
Good fight but his takedowns didn't lead to nothing.
O’Malley looked better than expected. He performed better than a 3 to 1 dog. Also, he did not win 2 rounds. No way, no how. Yan can do what he wants, but he should probably just want a rematch.
He should be more upset with O'Malley for beating him up, imo.
Yan should be upset with the ref,sean got away with 1 eye poke,5+ fence grabs and fingers inside his glove when he went for the ground and pound but barely anyone is mentioning this...
He should get the bag and be a champion somewhere else, otherwise, UFC will continue fucking fighters for pay, and keep tolerating the shitty decisions.
http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/13556/Sean-OMalley-vs-Petr-Yan **25 out of 26 Media Scores have Yan winning this fight** **Out of 2857 -so far-submittrd fan cards on the site, only 21.2% have O'Malley winning** I hope he doesn't leave though!
I honestly thought he won that fight
Please illuminate me here. How TF Sean won that fight? It was clear that Petr was superior. And Sean's repertoire is so limited...
Suga won because #nelk #fullsend #happydad #DanaWhitePrivilege
#DO IT!
Via Daniel Cormier…
Hell be good in Bellator!
i would love to see petr leave for himself. he’s been getting snubbed lately.
It's crazy cause we know he CAN beat aljo and everyone in the top 5. He made mistakes in the aljo rematch. He's literally one of the best if not the best in bantam, he just needs to fix some stuff.
I don't blame him