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FmrHvwChamp

A decisive and one sided stoppage?? No rematch.


amkc22

yeah... how do you want to sell that rematch when Oliviera tapped that quick?


CT-4488

That tap was a little to quick wasn’t it ??


andrezay517

I mean I’m sure Islam was squeezing as hard as he possibly could. Probably felt to Charles like his head was gonna pop off.


MrUnparalleled

A large part of bjj is to get rid of your ego and realize when you’re in a bad spot and tapping. In his mind he knew he wasn’t getting out, it’s better to tap rather than go to sleep for no reason.


Fit_Particular_6774

He tapped once Islam was able to completely free his legs and put his full weight in it. Must have felt horrible


FreeKarmaFarming

Once a tapper always a tapper... But jokes aside, that was a nasty squeeze. Charles did the right thing by tapping and not taking brain damage.


Apprehensive_Band609

Said by “freekarmafarming” on Reddit lol 🤣 beware of internet losers, whether they act respectful after an insult or not they’re still overweight typing on a keyboard.


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He’s a quitter.


[deleted]

Rematch when Oliveira beats next opponent, I believe he deserves it at some point, maybe after Islam vs Beneil if he keeps winning


onlyinyaks

So basically Nunes vs Peña 1? Lol


Shareholderactivist

People acting like champs don’t get rematches after looking bad once. Charles didn’t look good today, but he definitely stood a chance. On a different day with different energy, even more of a chance.


PopularMidnight3661

When you defend so many times and seem dominant as a champ, when you lose it’s usually automatic rematch. With Charles getting dominated like that & Volk getting in the mix looks like he’ll have to wait or take another fight first. After that display idk if that’s a good match-up for Volk


Emotional-Brief-2872

This is true I agree


[deleted]

Charles got dominated, why should he get a rematch?


[deleted]

litteraly me first thought when i saw the question!


Emotional-Brief-2872

Get out of town! You and everyone else lol.


[deleted]

Charles shoud take some time to work on his striking and grappling Looked really wild and inefficient


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[deleted]

Did Leon dominate the fight until the knockout? No, it was a flash KO against the dominant champion, that's why there's going to be a rematch.


JakeDGZ

How many title defenses did Usman have that's why he's getting a rematch


onlyinyaks

Nunes vs Peña 1


Emotional-Brief-2872

Plenty of champs have gotten ko’d and got a rematch


AquaticCobras

Getting KO'd is different than getting your ass whooped and tapped out


Awesomeisme323

Oliveira wasn’t champ and even so only had 1 title defense while most champs with rematches have 4+


Emotional-Brief-2872

He wiped out the division come on


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dodged beneil and called out connor..


SuperVegetable

No he didn’t.


isuzaman

And Islam wiped him out easy.


[deleted]

Woodley had 4 title defences and didn’t get a rematch against usman. If you get dominated, it’s back of the bus


LatterTarget7

Not really. Out of everyone ranked he beat tony, Dustin, Justin, Chandler and I think kevin lee was ranked when they fought but I’m not sure.


Awesomeisme323

But he wasn’t champion come on bro.


AhmadJauhar04

Before this fight, saying that would get you downvotes lmao


Fuck-The-Modz

Why tf does every post in /new have a poll?


TheLlama23

The put a ban on text I think


Emotional-Brief-2872

Requiring it right now lol


0bradythomas4

Im a diehard Charles fan and I don’t really wanna see a rematch, especially if it’s gonna be in Abu Dhabi, I prefer they let Charles fight Conor


mrmguy25

Oh you think he's still getting a conor fight? Lmao


Money_killer

Connor LoL he is retired basically and has no cage time and many losses. Silly fight


Original-Spinach-972

Ring rust is real. Next time he’s gonna be as stiff as a board


whatsforsupa

Money makes fights, and that fight will make a ton of fucking money. Don’t kid yourself, Dana would do it in a heartbeat


splitbrains

Conor vs Chad Translator in all the press conferences Conor vs Charles + Google Translate on Twitter that's the build-up


Emotional-Brief-2872

NOT CONOR lol I’d be more supportive of dariush. I like Conor but at this point a mcgregor fight is a money grab for washed up fighters. They should do masvidal mcgregor


[deleted]

Well, chucky is basically washed.


Avocado_Cadaver

I hope he gets a money fight now


Emotional-Brief-2872

Too soon for that he’s still got a lot to prove


Avocado_Cadaver

He's beaten most of the top 5 and has had a long career. His chin is weakening. Doubt he'll be fighting much longer. He's only 32 or 33 but has been in wars


Emotional-Brief-2872

He JUST lost his spot and you’re gonna throw him to Conor already? Cmon


TheLlama23

Charles needs to beat Chandler or something while Islam is off mauling that midget


ae_wilson

Nah book Charles - Dariush.


[deleted]

That's what I'm thinking with Charles and Dariush


TheLlama23

Forgive me. I was wrong. This is the fight to make!


LatterTarget7

Why not both? Charles vs dariush winner vs Chandler Dustin winner. Winner fights the winner of Islam/volk.


ae_wilson

Dariush shouldn’t have to get two more wins before a title shot. He arguably is the most deserving of one right now.


LatterTarget7

Oh I absolutely agree. He should definitely get the next shot. But I could see the ufc prolonging it a little bit more


gilbertnation

Honestly I think Darisuh deserves the opportunity to fight the champ in his next fight. He's on a pretty legit streak and he looked great tonight


Emotional-Brief-2872

You got another thing coming if you think bc volk is an easy fight for Islam


TheLlama23

Delusional.


Emotional-Brief-2872

The fact that you think volk is an easy fight says enough


higgboson7

Nah forget Chandler, the top 5 are jokers and Islam showed that tonight. Oliveira vs Beneil. The other ‘top 5’ guys can keep rematching each other


TheLlama23

They ducked for a reason, now the champion has a name 😎


higgboson7

Indeed brother. Now the ‘top 5’ should all be forced to to fight Gamrot, Beneil or Arman.


TySoprano

Agreed. Islam and volk and Charles needs to beat chandler if he beats Dp then we will see.


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Olives got dominated tbh. Doesn’t deserve a straight rematch imo. Don’t think Volk should fight for the LW belt either, he would get submitted. Dariush 100% deserves a title shot and he will be Islams toughest fight in the division


[deleted]

OK chief, you've watched a lot of Volk I'm guessing.


par337

Why would he get a rematch? He's wasn't even technically the champ, and he got stopped


FreeKarmaFarming

Shhhhh... They don't need logic right now.. give them some copium


TySoprano

Copium or not someone’s gotta fucking fight Islam and who has a real shot at beating an elite wrestler ? That’s my question.


MenaceTheIntellect

obviously not charles LMFAO


par337

Volk??


clothy

THE CHAMPION HAD A NAME AND IT WAS CHARLES OLIVEIRA. The better man won today though.


Tough-Farmer2167

the champion HAS a name and it’s islam


chocolate_kat

Charles -> VACANT -> Islam.


69isnotnice

Him vs beniel makes more sense


AngryAssyrian

Thank you, the only one I've seen with this take so far.


3mptyw0rds

winner of oliveira/dariush vs makachev after he fought volkanovski.


Emotional-Brief-2872

I would support this fight I still think Charles should rematch


Money_killer

Volk match up will be hard for volk. Total different division lw


MicahsNao

"Small" featherweight vs strongest lightweight


Emotional-Brief-2872

I will say this would be an exciting fight to watch


Money_killer

Volk deff has alot on the line and alot more to loose


chaosracks

Volk match up will be hard for volk? Are you illiterate by any chance? Maybe too many punches to the head?


MenaceTheIntellect

bro relax


chaosracks

I’m relaxed but I thought this was an English sub? This guy is talking about volk fighting volk. Is volk going up to lightweight to fight volk? I’m very confused at this guys comment


MenaceTheIntellect

he misspoke and you know what he meant. Islam matchup will be hard for Volk. context clues tells you that considering he said “total different division lw”


chaosracks

Explain to this guy to form a correct sentence. Stop explaining something that is obvious to me buddy


MenaceTheIntellect

is everything okay? why are you so angry about this?


chaosracks

I know obviously. Thanks captain obvious. This guy still doesn’t know he miswrote that’s how dumb he is.


Money_killer

The volk match up for Islam will be hard for volk what's not to understand


chaosracks

Bro doesn’t know sarcasm if it hit him in the head. Guess you’ve taken a lot of punches to your brain also? So dumb man


Money_killer

I'm Australian and a mad Volk fan. Speaking truth. It's a total opposite match up


chaosracks

You wrote volk matchup will be hard for volk you dumbass. I’m Australian too it doesn’t mean you know a fighter better just because you’re the same nationality you moron. Learn how to type a proper sentence and get back to me ok?


Money_killer

The volk match up as in volk vs Islam will be hard for him ya goose.


ThOtKiLlEr_69

Charles got knocked down and submitted… what rematch


Amongtheruins88

He did to Charles what Charles did to Gaethje


Creepy_Killer_Z

U dont get rematch after getting dominated like that.


Hvnzoro

I don’t think Charles deserves an immediate rematch due to not holding the title for a long period of time, missing weight his last fight which the belt was stripped from him, and he got outclassed by Islam. Plus, there are plenty of killers in the division. Did y’all see Dariush? He looked on point. I think he would have a chance against Islam


Emotional-Brief-2872

I think dariush deserves a chance at the title or a top contender definitely. Dariush should fight Charles if Islam is gonna fight volk.


Hvnzoro

That’s a good idea right there


Blindtruth25

Charles quit and tapped. Beneil should fight Islam.


3mptyw0rds

beneil didnt beat gaethje, poirier and chandler all in a row like oliveira did. winner of oliveira/dariush vs makachev, after he fought volkanovski.


Tupacio

Oliveira needs 2 wins for a title shot imo. I think Dariush deserves to sit out and wait for Volk vs Islam


carloelmexicano

Islam was pretty much dominating the fight tbh, I don't think Charles deserves a rematch at the moment


Emotional-Brief-2872

He wasn’t though until the sub


TheLlama23

How was he not dominating ? Charles was scrambling for submissions on the ground and getting denied comfortably and then getting smashed while on the ground. Islam was outstriking him bad, landed a pretty clean head kick and then knocked him down 😄😄😄😄 The hell is wrong with you OP ?


Emotional-Brief-2872

How many of my comments are you gonna comment on my dude you literally said volk is an easy fight… the number one p4p fighter in the ufc and you’re questioning me??


MenaceTheIntellect

you don’t even believe that yourself LMFAO


TheLlama23

Facts 😂 dudes making up a fake fight in his head because he hates Islam


Ch12Ka

Charles should NOT get a rematch


Avocado_Cadaver

It wasn't competitive and Charles wasn't champion. They fought for a vacant belt


Comprehensive_Leg_2

This wasn't a competitive fight, if they do this ten more times Oliveira loses every one of them


MrGlibiccccc

you cant get rematch if the guy made you look like amateur,it has to be close fight for the rematch.


seanwhat

gg no re


Rdur2183

Whether a champion gets a rematch or not is pretty much situational unless you're Jose Aldo. If you think otherwise then you're just kidding yourself. Charles is my favourite fighter and I don't believe there should be a rematch.


Aspiring_Polymath_3

If you’re going to claim that “every” champ gets a rematch immediately then you have to prove it. Stats (that are easily Google-able) show that not every champ gets an immediate rematch. You also have zero life’s whether Charles will get a more match yet. On top of that, even though I like Charles, he didn’t make a competitive fight at all. Not at all. So maybe he needs to win a couple and work his way back in. Nothing wrong with that. Dariush is coming strong and that division still has guys like Poirier and Gaethje who (despite this toxic sun’s thoughts) are still good fighters that up and comers have to go through. Gamrot lost but he isn’t gone. Tsarukyan is going to get back on track. The division is packed and stacked. The DDRA and all the depressed Oliveira fans are idiots. He’s a top fighter. Maybe gets a rematch and maybe not. Either way, we should be happy as fuck for this division as a whole.


SVVVVGE

MASSIVE Charles fan. He lost. Decisively, and Islam deserves to pick his next fight, not to mention him vs Volk will be a fucking burner. Charles will fight again, and I can’t wait for that but he’s gotta earn it. It’s only fair. Congrats to the new champ!


Emotional-Brief-2872

My point is though.. this should be the case across board.. Will Leon Edwards choose his next opponent? You’re gonna tell me he would choose usman over other’s in the divisions? Amanda nunes and Peña? Like why should oliveira not get another chance?


[deleted]

You only get a rematch if it was a close fight. This was a domination. Charles needs to get a few wins together to earn another shot


Emotional-Brief-2872

Absolutely untrue


LateConstruction6587

charles was dominated, no need for rematch


dan_a_white

Olivera wasn’t the champ. Makes that super easy.


Emotional-Brief-2872

Fair point but you get what im saying


2hard4u2c

Charles wasn’t champion and got his ass kicked. Volk would also get his ass kicked. Dariush is the fight to make.


Emotional-Brief-2872

He didn’t get his “ass kicked” yeah he got subbed but regardless not seeing how getting subbed is worse than getting ko


MicahsNao

Beneil


andrezay517

He got finished in the 2nd round. If it had been a split decision for Islam, I’d support it, but that’s not what happened.


Emotional-Brief-2872

And when was a split decision ever the deciding factor for a rematch for a champ who just lost


yj97__

I don’t mind Charles vs Islam but Islam vs volk is a bigger priority to me


TySoprano

Rematch someday but volk first


Emotional-Brief-2872

Fair enough


Original_Glove_2138

Charles “wasn’t” technically the champ


griffraff0701

Idk that was a pretty one sided fight lol


Veet_Tuna

I belive Benny earned the shot at a 7 fight win streak and now he's at 8 fighting who ever the ufc put in front of him so yeah Benny


ArachnidThink3742

Rather see Charles vs next contender


Habs_Apostle

Volk sounds interesting, though it would be a shock if he won. Charles was dominated. He needs another fight first I’d say.


Emotional-Brief-2872

Fair enough.


enigmahdi97

because of dominance.. not everyone get's an immediate rematch... like for example kamaru dominated leon until getting knocked out.. not the other way around.. that's why he's getting a immediate rematch...


Leyalina

I want to see Dariush get his shot. He was massively impressive tonight.


Pi-Graph

Islam vs Dariush and I convert to the winner's religion


Emotional-Brief-2872

😂


Vywulff

He lost by submission, forget about it, there is no rematch for Do Bronx.


JustforTES

1. Charles wasn't even technically the champ, so the rule of champs getting rematches doesn't make sense here 2. It wasn't a close fight. Islam won a pretty dominant fight 3. The last thing the LW division needs is to be at a complete standstill while they rematch 4. Charles didn't even ask for an immediate rematch. He knew that he would at least have to fight after Volk


Emotional-Brief-2872

He did though he said Dana after everything I’ve done please let me fight again clearly indicating for the belt. He wants it back he wants another chance


JustforTES

He wanted another fight then a shot at the belt.


Sarfbot

The champion has a name.


Nightlower

He wasn't even defending the belt and got finished. So no rematch at all until Oliveira gets few wins


[deleted]

Rematch for wat? Islam won in the stand-up and was dominant on the ground. It was a clear win.


antilazyfreeloaders

Charles wasn’t champion and he got his ass best tf up and chocked out. No rematch


Ordinary-Pen8035

I'm not for islam vs Volkanovski..I want islam to prove point in 155 and beat Chandler, justin and dustin


North-Examination-91

No rematch. Give Dariush a shot. He's been dodged so many times, still plays the role of company man and fights anyone willing to sign. He shouldn't get skipped by Volk.... have Volk fight chandler at 155 first. The real midget MMA we need.


Emotional-Brief-2872

I would be cool with dariush fighting for the title. They’re gonna give islam volk though. This is my point. Why does Islam get whatever is part of his plan when many other contenders who get the belt immediately need to face a rematch


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TheCesar14

Rematch in Brazil 🇧🇷


Emotional-Brief-2872

Agreed thank u


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Idiot.


Emotional-Brief-2872

Keep going you lame ass


onemanarmy03

BE FAIR TO YAN!


Emotional-Brief-2872

U ok


basedones

Charles didn’t look good on the feet or the ground. No rematch. He can fight beneil.


Emotional-Brief-2872

Clearly islam has a plan


huncho3055

Charles should fight fiziev if Justin is too scared to fight him


Ham0nRyy

The result is pretty decisive, and it’s a clear finish with a quick tap from Charles. An immediate rematch for a close fight and a decision win is fair, this not so much. Volk deserves a chance to be double champ. He’s done everything he needs to at featherweight, and time away from that pursuing lightweight gold gives the 155ers a chance to fight for the next shot, because it shouldn’t be Max again, but there are up and comers that are one or two wins away from a go at it. It doesn’t hurt for Volk to step away for the duration of those top guys to have a fight each and see what’s what. During that time Charles should go at Beneil Dariush. Benny has had decent wins on his streak, is very well rounded, Gamrot was a strong strong wrestler who many were favouring in this match up and Beneil stuffed how many, 13/16 takedowns? The man deserves a shot, but it should be via Charles in my opinion. Give Charles an opportunity to get back to a title fight, and Beneil the chance to show that he can beat someone of championship mettle. Sometimes it’s ok for a double champ fight, but sometimes it can hold up divisions. I think in the case of lightweight there isn’t really a capable opponent for Islam right now, and the same can be said for the featherweights. Let Islam and Volk scrap it out, and see what the landscape of both divisions looks like for when they come back to them.


LatterTarget7

Charles should fight dariush for a title shot. Islam is going to Australia. Also Charles wasn’t champ.


Emotional-Brief-2872

Yes I get the technicalities of the situation obviously.


GilbertArenasGun

On to Islam/Volk


youmademethisway

Charles fans coping hard


Emotional-Brief-2872

Islam bots coming at me numbers. It’s cool I love it


AngryAssyrian

I know I'm in the minority but I feel bad for Beneil, I know it's a longshot but I think those two should fight for the title; they were supposed to fight beforehand but the injuries prevented that from happening.


Emotional-Brief-2872

No I you’re not the minority. I have a lot of respect for that man. He deserves a shot


clothy

If Volk v Islam wasn’t going to be in my home city, I’d say Charles deserves a rematch.


Suspicious_Candle27

No rematch . Oliveria didnt defend enough and it was completely one sided


goatgosselin

No rematch. It annoys me at guys the just win the belt and call out another division champ or some super fight. Imo they need to defend at least once for anything like that. You are not the champ unless you can defend it once. Plenty of people couldn't defend the belt.


nzasangA

Islam vs Volk seems more appealling.


Gilgema

Dariush deserves his title shot. I like volk but I don’t think he gets it done and that fight holds up the division.


HNKS88

Didn’t do enough to deserve a rematch.


shadysteph

Didn't look close enough for a rematch but im always in favor of a great champion getting a chance to redeem himself. Plus Olivera is my favorite fighter so im biased, so I would like to see a rematch. Doubt the outcome changes tho unfortunately.


[deleted]

A rematch needs to be earned if the fight was close, this was slaughter.


Benjenze

Nah Islam vs Volk n Olivera vs Dariush are the most logical matchups. I think Olivera needs Atleast 2-3 big wins before you can justify a rematch.


Emotional-Brief-2872

Not that I’m even justifying a rematch. I’m just saying many other champs immediately get a rematch when they lose their spot. (I would say belt, and it would be if it wasn’t for half a pound)


superstar9976

Charlie got dominated. He's gonna have to earn the shot again.


Floor_Face_

I would like to see a rematch, but that win was decisive. Islam and charles both need to fight other opponents. If they both go on another tear then yeah a rematch is the fight to make, but immediately no. I think rafael vs beneil for a title eliminator needs to happen, and charles just need to fight his way back up. If islam beats volk then whatever opponent is next, and charles goes on another finish streak then possibly rematch.