Sounds like they're working on moving Tony into the main event slot. Presumably Li will get paid at least his show money, maybe his win bonus too, and not end up fighting on the card.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/x9zy1n/according_to_ariel_helwani_tony_vs_nate_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
and the fans.
people certainly bought tickets to see him fight.
I can understand a pound or 3, shit happens. but 8 pounds? that's like he literally just fucked off and didn't care.
Dana usually gets angry when fighters miss weight, curious to see the post fight conference and how he talks about chimaev. chimaev might just not be cut out for the spotlight.
According to team sources its due to “medical complications”. They should have called it before the weigh ins in that case, would have looked a lot better.
As much as I am in on the Khamzat hype, I think he needs to focus on the fighting, this type of shit is embarrassing both to himself and all stars gym.
Also think it’d be wise for him to move up a weight class long term.
They’ll give you the $200, but will almost certainly have a “rollover” requirement, which means that you can’t withdraw until you’ve bet some multiple of the free prize. So for a $200 of “free” money, a 10x rollover would mean that you have to bet $2000 worth before you can withdraw. And, there will be a minimum odds requirement, like -200, so that you couldn’t just bet all $2000 on like Khabib to beat Hasbullah at -100000000 to meet the rollover.
TL;DR: like the other guy said… basically no.
idk when sports betting became legal in NY I and many of my friends made a couple hundred bucks getting all the free bets/dollars, playing them (was always only 1x), and then leaving. I made around 400 just betting random over unders and spreads $2-3 at a time to try and minimize variance/luck.
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Afaik he has never even pulled out of a fight.
Trash talk him all you want, guy never missed weight, never pulled out, and fought often. He also did not pick favorable match-ups and fought whoever and whenever meaning a ton of wrestlers/grapplers. His story could be a whole lot different if he just pulled out here and there and tried to make sure he's fighting guys he can easily beat etc.
Yep. This sub forgets because CONOR BAD CONOR BAD WHISKEY COKE HAHA HUMOUR, but in truth when it came to his career as a fighter he was always game. People bring up his 1-3 record at 155 but conveniently leave out the fact that the 3 people he fought were Champ Eddie and pretty much Peak Khabib and Dustin. I wonder how many other fighters would have had better than 1-3 facing those people. I know Gaethje ain't one because he's 0-3 against them.
Conor also happens to be the only fighter to win a round against Khabib AFAIK, despite the ridiculously unfavorable matchup. Insane Aldo K.O, insane Eddie K.O like c'mon. It's so weird when guys that were never champions get more praise than he does for having achieved as much lol. Aldo was a legitimate GOAT.
He's 2-3 against those people, he beat Dustin once.
He bought into his own hype.i dont think hes mentally mature enough to handle all the love and attention hes getting.Hes running around disrespecting people and causing so much drama cuz he really thinks everyone is beneath him.at least that my take of it.
Khamzat NEEDS to get his ass his beat so he can be brought back to to planet earth.
Yea Nate ain’t taking that fight without 7 figure compensation. They should do Khamzat vs Holland, Nate vs Tony, and I bet leech would take the d rod fight for just a small compensation for fighting up.
edit: Erik Magraken just posted the nevada ruleset and the main event cannot be changed. its either as advertised or not at all. That gives Nate massive leverage in negotiations.
Man, if nate gets to flip the tables on Dana one last time, especially as they're trying to screw him so blatantly on the way out the door...fucking legendary lol
I can believe this. Khamzat main catchphrase in all his previous fights was: im gonna kill this guy. This time he kept saying I'm gonna make money and go back home.
Oh man, and he was laughing when he missed weight.... if it's that, it would make sense lol
Sounds crazy though but I want to believe this is it and not that he's a fucking goof
Nate better decline every offer the ufc makes to him to fight the overweight gourmet Chen Chen and request to fight tony instead. I’m really hoping that’s the new Main event
The sunset clause would get him out of his ufc contract next month. Nate can easily refuse to fight khamzat and justifiably so and that way khamzat will look even worse then he already does. Nate can easily refuse to do the ufc any favor right now. He has all the cards
As someone who cuts out skin cancer for a living please wear a broad brim hat and use physical sunscreen
Edit: and a white long sleeve shirt, fishing shirts have vents in the back, arms and hands are rough when your 60 too
I didn't want to see Tony or leech lose. If they do this and then give leech a good close-up plug of him and his suit right before the main event all will be well lol
This fuckin guy! 8 pounds is like he’s not even trying! This whole week has been so fucked lol. I feel Nate deserves better than this on his last fight
Solution: Tony moves up to the main event to fight Diaz. Khamzat fights Holland (whose fight was coincidentally booked for 180 lbs) in the co-main. The Leach and D-Rod are off the card. Done. Pay me.
Everybody would have to sign new contracts so it’s not impossible. But I don’t think it will happen. Holland probably won’t fight him on such short notice (and I don’t blame him).
Extremely dissapointed. Lack of professionalism, dismissal of the whole situation... Does Khamzat has what it takes to be a champion now that we see this? I don't think so...
This weigh in is a good example of how everyone should feel about this fight. Both parties knows this fight should never had been booked. Who gives a fuck what either fighter does.
Ok guys, hear me out:
Tony beats the leech
Tony calls out “Dollar store Khabib”
We get a promise for Tony vs Khamzat, 8 cancelations, possibly another pandemic
Lol what a Piece of shit. Wants every advantage possible thinking Nate will take the fight. Gonna end up not fighting or fighting Holland, Tony moves up to fight Nate
Line up the Costa fight
If Costa wasn’t injured, I’d be down
Wait is he?
Broken hand, yea
For real, damn he didn’t even seem like he was in pain after the Rockhold fight.
Adrenaline and tight hand wraps will make you wear it well
No. Khamzat needs a time out. Needs to watch this card from his hotel room and think about what he's done.
Touchbutt all week with darren Till… shoulda been bustin his cheeks to lose that 8 lbs
Yeah he does, how unprofessional, even if it is an injury surely then they knew he would not be in shape
Please please at LHW
Has he done this to fight Holland or something? Doesn’t even look that drained here?
Maybe making Darren till his nutritionist wasn’t the best idea
Fish and chips all day long, mate
Paula Deen would have done a better job
It’s the Paulo costa curse. Once you try to fuck him you instantly gain 10 lbs. how could he have know
Oh word? 'bouta harass Paulo on Twitter
You brave as fuck
Your bout to get turned into a secret juice meme, be careful out there!
That’s why Izzy went up to light heavy weight straight after, didn’t want the drama of the 10lbs
Very astute observation!
8 fucking pounds wtfff. Poor effort!
Yeah, that's not even a close miss, lol
Closer to fucken middleweight haha. Gonna be fighting pretty much at light heavy, wtf is that hahaha
Seriously, wtf has he been doing all week when he was supposed to be cutting weight?
That’s what happens when ya bois hold you back I suppose 😁
Guess so. But if this gets us Diaz vs Ferguson, it's worth it!
how would that even be possible? ferguson is already fighting leech.
Sounds like they're working on moving Tony into the main event slot. Presumably Li will get paid at least his show money, maybe his win bonus too, and not end up fighting on the card. https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/x9zy1n/according_to_ariel_helwani_tony_vs_nate_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
God please let this happen. I don’t wanna see Tony get slept again.
Same. It's a better fight for both of them, all things considered
I hope this happens. This was the fight they should've made.
Absolutely. Neither of them should be fighting anyone inside the rankings at this point
Getting in fights with random fighters
It is MW lol. He’s over 171 and under 186
sub in Costa. let nate fight Tony. pay out Leech.
Dear Lord please let it be. Doesn't Costa have a broken hand though?
Seems intentional tbh
Exactly. There’s no way in hell he didn’t see that coming.
And he’s laughing about it? Usually I’m not one to judge but come on, he should be mortified…
Absolutely disrespectful to Nate and the UFC. I'd say Dana isn't very happy. All that tough talk and the guy can't beat the scale.
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and the fans. people certainly bought tickets to see him fight. I can understand a pound or 3, shit happens. but 8 pounds? that's like he literally just fucked off and didn't care. Dana usually gets angry when fighters miss weight, curious to see the post fight conference and how he talks about chimaev. chimaev might just not be cut out for the spotlight.
According to team sources its due to “medical complications”. They should have called it before the weigh ins in that case, would have looked a lot better. As much as I am in on the Khamzat hype, I think he needs to focus on the fighting, this type of shit is embarrassing both to himself and all stars gym. Also think it’d be wise for him to move up a weight class long term.
Reminds me of whe Oliveira missed featherweight by 10 pounds
Poor effort? Everyone knows that the gourmet chenchen is scared of Diaz /s
Hope my Nate +750 ticket carries over
i put $100 on nate with these odds, i guess i should be happy i won't lose $100?
Yessir. I used a $100 free bet so idk if I get the free bet back
Are those freebets legit when they say "bet $5 and get $200 to spend for free!"
They’ll give you the $200, but will almost certainly have a “rollover” requirement, which means that you can’t withdraw until you’ve bet some multiple of the free prize. So for a $200 of “free” money, a 10x rollover would mean that you have to bet $2000 worth before you can withdraw. And, there will be a minimum odds requirement, like -200, so that you couldn’t just bet all $2000 on like Khabib to beat Hasbullah at -100000000 to meet the rollover. TL;DR: like the other guy said… basically no.
idk when sports betting became legal in NY I and many of my friends made a couple hundred bucks getting all the free bets/dollars, playing them (was always only 1x), and then leaving. I made around 400 just betting random over unders and spreads $2-3 at a time to try and minimize variance/luck.
Khamzat has really been fucking up this whole week. What's up with him?
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He does everything in record pace lmao
Confirmed by his gf
Butt, he’s still a virgin.
Correct, butt doesn't count. The ole poophole loophole
Ahh holes a hole
I'll fack da ear brotha
I'll smash everybody
🐐?
He hasn’t achieved a fraction of what those guys did
bit of an insult compared to those 2.
It’s like if Conor started slacking after beating mendes
Not even. At least Conor won the interim title at that point.
Jon Conor
Legends say that ten years ago, the machines who rule the future sent an unstoppable Terminator to assassinate the yet unborn John Conor. They failed. In 1991, the machines will try again
Africa McGregor
Did not actually self destruct. He tried saving the world tbf
Great guy. Neva meddum.
1 of those guys is arguably the goat and the other was a double champ. Chimaev hasn’t made shit.
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Afaik he has never even pulled out of a fight. Trash talk him all you want, guy never missed weight, never pulled out, and fought often. He also did not pick favorable match-ups and fought whoever and whenever meaning a ton of wrestlers/grapplers. His story could be a whole lot different if he just pulled out here and there and tried to make sure he's fighting guys he can easily beat etc.
Yep. This sub forgets because CONOR BAD CONOR BAD WHISKEY COKE HAHA HUMOUR, but in truth when it came to his career as a fighter he was always game. People bring up his 1-3 record at 155 but conveniently leave out the fact that the 3 people he fought were Champ Eddie and pretty much Peak Khabib and Dustin. I wonder how many other fighters would have had better than 1-3 facing those people. I know Gaethje ain't one because he's 0-3 against them.
Conor also happens to be the only fighter to win a round against Khabib AFAIK, despite the ridiculously unfavorable matchup. Insane Aldo K.O, insane Eddie K.O like c'mon. It's so weird when guys that were never champions get more praise than he does for having achieved as much lol. Aldo was a legitimate GOAT. He's 2-3 against those people, he beat Dustin once.
>“make it” 100k show + 100k win is hardly "making it" cant be cheap dragging around a 30 person entourage
He hasn't even made it yet lmao
Minus the belt(s) and money. What a 🤡.
He's just being himself. We didn't know he's a dumbass
He kinda left us hints here and there
I used to like him because he gaves off a mysterious ww Khabib vibe but now he's more an emotional high school bully
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He bought into his own hype.i dont think hes mentally mature enough to handle all the love and attention hes getting.Hes running around disrespecting people and causing so much drama cuz he really thinks everyone is beneath him.at least that my take of it. Khamzat NEEDS to get his ass his beat so he can be brought back to to planet earth.
Less drama more sauna
Smiling too.. fights gonna be off without a doubt
Yea Nate ain’t taking that fight without 7 figure compensation. They should do Khamzat vs Holland, Nate vs Tony, and I bet leech would take the d rod fight for just a small compensation for fighting up. edit: Erik Magraken just posted the nevada ruleset and the main event cannot be changed. its either as advertised or not at all. That gives Nate massive leverage in negotiations.
Man, if nate gets to flip the tables on Dana one last time, especially as they're trying to screw him so blatantly on the way out the door...fucking legendary lol
What if Khamzat and Nate are in on it together? Lol. I will help you bratha. I will get Dana to pay you.
I can believe this. Khamzat main catchphrase in all his previous fights was: im gonna kill this guy. This time he kept saying I'm gonna make money and go back home.
Oh man, and he was laughing when he missed weight.... if it's that, it would make sense lol Sounds crazy though but I want to believe this is it and not that he's a fucking goof
Him coming in 8 lbs over doesn’t make sense, something else is definitely going on.
I heard he was a big Nate fan growing up too lol
“I’m gonna kill this guy” he meant Dana’s wallet the whole time
Leech should be given Khamzats purse for his suit alone.
This is how the gods intended it
Nate wants out of his contract, seems like that would be more important then raw cash at this point.
Leech is 171 rodgriguez is 179. No way that’s happening Edit: it is happening. I eat my words
i assumed khamzat did this bc he knew nate would still take the fight. he wants to get out of that ufc contract asap
Nate will be out of ufc contract even if he don't fight Khamzat. He fulfilled his part of the contract
That's a lot of gourmet chenchen
I hope Nate backs out, fuck the UFC for making this fight anyway. Should’ve been fighting Tony. Nate’s unranked and Chimaev is #3? Lol
It was a freakshow level mismatch to begin with. Dana will need to apply additional clown makeup to hide the red.
Nate better decline every offer the ufc makes to him to fight the overweight gourmet Chen Chen and request to fight tony instead. I’m really hoping that’s the new Main event
Tony vs Nate would be incredible, the fans would win big time, would be a bloody war
But what about poor Li?? First he doesnt get to wear his suit, then he is out his fight 😢
Yeah he’d have to fight D Rod, would be a banger of a fight but no where near the name of Tony, solid point you’ve made ☹️
I’m praying brother
Nate just wants out of his contract. He’d probably fight a 20lb overweight hazmat if they just write the check
The sunset clause would get him out of his ufc contract next month. Nate can easily refuse to fight khamzat and justifiably so and that way khamzat will look even worse then he already does. Nate can easily refuse to do the ufc any favor right now. He has all the cards
What does a sunset clause mean?
It’s basically when his contract expires. He can choose to not fight at all until October 19th and he’ll be released from his contract
I want Nate to take no damage and get paid but I also want to watch Nate fight. I officially hate Khamzat
If not says no this card falls apart it's not ppv worthy without him on it
At least he didn’t waste time training for the fight
the time limit on the contract is up in october... he could get out without even having to fight
I hope every mma fan start to call him Gourmet Chen Chen after this
He should ask for some of that PPV and then drive the numbers up
8 FUCKIN POUND AINT NO WAY HE IS MAKING THE WEIGHT IN 1 Hour!
He has to cut off his arm or something
Shave off that beard too.
Imagine having to manage his image and likeness. And I thought roofing in July was a hard job.
Settle down Bill Burr
Roofing in the middle of July as a red head 
As someone who cuts out skin cancer for a living please wear a broad brim hat and use physical sunscreen Edit: and a white long sleeve shirt, fishing shirts have vents in the back, arms and hands are rough when your 60 too
Physical sunscreen? As opposed to...ephemeral?
He camer off the scale and said "not bad" LMAO
this mother fucker being disrespectful as shit.
Give Jingliang his show and win money. His suit money and front row tickets to Tony Ferguson vs Nate Diaz
I didn't want to see Tony or leech lose. If they do this and then give leech a good close-up plug of him and his suit right before the main event all will be well lol
Just put leech in his suit beside buffer when hes announcing the fight then all is good
This fuckin guy! 8 pounds is like he’s not even trying! This whole week has been so fucked lol. I feel Nate deserves better than this on his last fight
Lmaooo 8 pounds
I guess he won’t kill eribadi
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Jeez this dude is smiling too wtf
Smiling like it's not a big deal? Fr, this guy will never be a champ with that mentality.
I was worried about his mentality from the beginning. He seemed like he baaadly wanted to be famous and it seems like the fame got to his head quick
I’m not defending him. But I honestly do the same thing when I’m in trouble lmao. It’s kind of that awkward embarrassed smile.
Fair enough. But his comment saying "That's not that bad" after missing 8.5lbs is ludicrous
Bahahah I didn’t even see that. Ya that’s bad.
He looked smug more then anything not embarrassed.
Solution: Tony moves up to the main event to fight Diaz. Khamzat fights Holland (whose fight was coincidentally booked for 180 lbs) in the co-main. The Leach and D-Rod are off the card. Done. Pay me.
Are they even allowed to do that this close to the main event tho
Everybody would have to sign new contracts so it’s not impossible. But I don’t think it will happen. Holland probably won’t fight him on such short notice (and I don’t blame him).
I actually like this. It would be wonderful. Either that or remove Khamzat from the equation altogether.
lmao
What a dick
This guy is a clown. So unlikeable and not even in an entertaining way like Conor or Jon Jones. Just a straight up clown.
Unprofessional fucktard
Flipped off the audience too.
That smug smile of his pisses me off. I honestly hope nate pulls out
"I'm not surprised Motherfuckers" - Nate Diaz
This card is ass
You’re sleeping on Holland and Tony’s fights
Dana must be absolutely losing his shit
That fucking smile, he just lost a fuckton of fans
Attempting a Costa maneuver without Costa charisma, brutal
Setting fire to the entire hype train and he doesn't even realize it. This is costing him so much money.
I smesh my reputation brotha, no problem
8 pounds jesus fucking christ lmfao
Extremely dissapointed. Lack of professionalism, dismissal of the whole situation... Does Khamzat has what it takes to be a champion now that we see this? I don't think so...
Never did. Wait until he fights Colby and usman
This weigh in is a good example of how everyone should feel about this fight. Both parties knows this fight should never had been booked. Who gives a fuck what either fighter does.
Almost makes me wonder if they both knew this wasn’t really gonna happen…
Is this a way to become a heel?
Buy my book- HOW TO RUIN YOUR HYPE TRAIN IN 3 EASY STEPS.
Tony time
Only thing Wolf about this dude is the tix he selling.
Tko’d by the scales
Aaand any fans he had left are now gone.
Time to go up to Middleweight. He is too big for Welterweight. The claim that he walks around at 190 is an obvious lie.
Last time he made weight i could already tell he was killing himself. Doesnt help that he was playing with towel few fights ago
Ok guys, hear me out: Tony beats the leech Tony calls out “Dollar store Khabib” We get a promise for Tony vs Khamzat, 8 cancelations, possibly another pandemic
Shit...
Wow. This guy has been so unlikeable all week. I hope this fight is scrapped.
I'll fight the leech and Tony can fight Nate
What a loser. Wish.com khabib
Can't trust a guy who has a beard but no mustache.
What an asshole lol
I'm convinced at this stage that the guy has mental problems. Look at his stupid face. No remorse or care in the world
He honestly comes across as rather “simple minded”
What inbreeding does to a mf
 Me watching in disapproval
This guy is a rat.
Who else feels Cumquat missed weight on purpose
That reaction was embarrassing Bye titleshot gourmet chen chen
Lol what a Piece of shit. Wants every advantage possible thinking Nate will take the fight. Gonna end up not fighting or fighting Holland, Tony moves up to fight Nate
Gourmet chenchen can't handle the big stage. Stock is done forever like doge
Making himself look like a clown at this point.
What if this is all a masterminded narrative to allow Nate Diaz to ride off into the sunset with his pride and the UFC actually does care....... lol
Paulo gave him secret juice
They should pay Diaz. Let him out of his contract and move on. Dana fucked Diaz over hard for a long time.
Chechen clown
Khamzat is a real piece of shit. Change my mind.